These are the leaked images of the new RX1R and RX100MII. Both cameras will be announced tomorrow (June 27). Be sure to be online on SAR at 6-7am London time to follow live the announcement! Below you can find the RX100MII image (via Digicaminfo) and after that the specs and price in dollars:
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Twice leaked the specs and pricing:
San Diego – Sony introduced Thursday a pair of advanced RX-series Cyber-shot point-and-shoot cameras targeting the professional/advanced amateur audiences.
Models DSC-RX1R/B ($2,799 suggested retail price) and DSC-RX100M2/B ($749 suggested retail) both feature advanced CMOS sensors, with the former featuring a 24.3-megapixel 35mm full-frame Exmor sensor and the latter offering a one-inch 20.2-megapixel Exmor R sensor. Both models also include Sony’s latest BIONZ image processors.
Sony said both cameras are additions to the RX line and will not be replacing the current RX1 or RX100 models. The RX1R will be slotted in higher than the previous RX1, and removes the optical low pass filter of the RX1 for improved resolution and image quality. The filter will continue to be included in the RX1 to reduce artifacts such as moiré.
The RX1R is also said to produce superior contrast levels to the RX1.
It includes a fixed focal length 37mm lens at F2-22 Carl Zeiss lens.
The RX100 features a 28-100mm focal range (35mm equivalent) F1.8 lense.
Both models will also support FullHD 1080/60p and 1080/24p video resolution in AVCHD compression format, and up to 1440-by-1080/30fps in MP4.
The RX1R supports an ISO range for still images from 100-25,600 (100-102,400 in EV step) while the RX100RM2 supports an ISO range from 160-25,600.
The RX100M2 uses a new sensor production technique to produce a Exmor R CMOS sensor as large as 1-inch. This is said to significantly improve the camera’s low-light picture image capability.
The RX100M2 also offers burst shooting speeds up to 10fps at 20.2-megapixel resolution.
The RX1R offers burst shooting speeds up to 5fps in speed priority mode and 2.5 fps (AF-S).
Both models include pop-up flashes and 3-inch (1.2 million dot) LCD monitors. The RX100RM2 adds an 84-degree-up, 43-degrees-down tilting screen.
The RX100M2, which has a compact body design, will also support Wi-Fi wireless connectivity and image transfer and will be the first NFC-enabled digital imaging device from Sony, allowing transferring images by typing the camera with another Wi-Fi-enable device like a smartphone or a tablet.
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It may be very wishful thinking but I am somehow thinking the following:
1) With the arrival of the RX1R, maybe the RX1 drops price and there is more people buying it and truly seeing the engineering marvel Sony developed there. It will be good for all of us and it would hopefully motivate Sony to develop a 50mm or 24m version for the RX1 series next.
2) Perhaps, with a bit more time in their hands since the launch of the RX1, Sony have developed a new AF algorithm that helps it either be slightly faster or better in low contrast areas.
So, launch day for RX1R may also mean firmware update with new jpeg engine and new AF algorithm.
Crossing fingers, pressing thumbs, praying and touching wood…
1) Ditto on the hope that Sony will drop the price on the RX1. Doubt it will drop by much though. Maybe down by $99 or so?
2) I’m curious to know if the removal of the AA filter is just Sony’s cheap way of getting around releasing a firmware update for the RX1. If more light is coming through will contrast detection improve, particularly in low light situations?
FIRMWARE UPDATE FOR RX1 PLEASE!!!!!!!! Faster AF speed!!!!
Other than the bulky hot shoe on MKII, all the upgrades are awesome!
what upgrade?
Is it somehow possible to detach / screw off that hot shoe?
I’m worried that the new camera is less pocketable because the hot shoe surely gets in the way…
A detachable hot shoe? A hot shoe shoe, as it were?
LOL!
That statement should be framed and considered an instant classic.
A removable hotshoe which, in its place, will have some form of connection for no other purpose than to fit the hotshoe on.
CLASSIC!
Definitely interested in the RX100MKII! Looks like it would hold me out until the FF NEX arrives.
I see they didn’t make the wrist strap holes any larger on the MK2. I guess no one at Sony ever actually tried threading a strap through them. I wound up using fishing line and pliers, it was loads of fun.
The later RX100 boxes include a plastic tool to hook the strap through that tiny hole …
Price of the RX100M2 is quite a bit higher than the RX100 price. Hopefully the Exmor R sensor is worth it ! It’s probably the biggest Exmor R sensor to date. The hotshoe protrudes out of the camera more than I would have liked. Also the 2+mm more thickness is quite a bit higher than the RX100.
I would take the tilting screen over 2mm less thickness everyday.
Wi-if & NFC, sweet! Hopefully a user can pull a card from an alpha camera and put it into the rx100-2 purely for image transmitting.
There are some typos in the “press text” (“F1.8 lense”), also some expressions are quite strange coming from a supposed Sony text(“Sony said…”??)
I am not questioning OPs SR5 but this text looks far from being Sony’s literature.
I was right, this “press text” was fake. The real one: http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/06/27/sony-reveals-cyber-shot-rx100-II-with-BSI-CMOS-sensor
The press release sounds a bit fake. The “this is said to significantly improve the camera’s low-light picture image capability” bit is clearly not coming from Sony. They would clearly state that the Exmor R does improve low-light ability 🙂
Why?! They were the ones who repeatedly said that for larger sensors it makes no difference at all!
So they would invest a lot of money in the new sensor without knowing for sure what to expect ? :))
I am for the benefits of a back illuminated sensor (EXMOR-R in sony speak). I am just pointing out that sony had earlier actively denied that larger sensor do not need to be Exmor-R.
Now, imagine a NEX-7N with an EXMOR-R! The one that I hope will become a reality very soon. 🙂
“Sony introduced Thursday a pair of advanced RX-series” is not proper English. The “Thursday” belongs at the end of the sentence. The syntax sounds German (imho). So unless the press release was written by a non-native speaker, it’s a bit fishy.
$750 for RX100M2?!?! That is what happens when competition is hopelessly behind with their 3 times smaller 1/1.7″ sensors.
The RX100 continues to be an excellent camera for less money for those who do not desire the added features of the newer one. Otherwise, an additional $100 for wi-fi, nfc, tilt LCD, hot shoe & slightly improved sensor is worth it. Eventually it will take the place of the 1st gen rx100 and the price will be reduced. For many, it pays to be a year behind in camera technology.
True that, brah
I guess I will stick with my RX100 for now. Bought it used a week ago for $450.
Oh no that’s old and useless now. Ancient history.
where?
Local craigslist.
And minimum ISO of 160 for the RX100M2 ? something is wrong with that “press release”. What happened to the rumored ISO 100 ?
The price for the RX100M2 is quite high. But I’m happy the ISO range was increased – hopefully in video, too.
I think this is fake..RX1r with 37mm lens? and lowest ISO setting for RX1 is 50 not 100..
yes, i was thinking that too. but it may be that the actual focal length of the lens is 37mm and they simply rounded it to 35mm so all the people who like the sound of “35” are actually please. the low limit could just be forgotten by the person who leaked it. either way, im not planning on selling my rx1 for rx1r, but if i could trade with someone for free i wouldn’t mind 😛
Thank God the hot shoe is still there and that Sony hasn’t listened to rank amateurs. This is one fine camera, Sony should leave what’s work well alone.
RX100 MKII is at least $50 too high. Shouldn’t be more than $699 IMO, and will probably drop to $650 in a few months. Just my gut feeling.
Still… I might buy one.
What are the AVCHD bitrates for these cameras? They may well be reflected in the upcoming firmware updates for existing cameras (video changes are rumoured in a previous SAR post about firmware).
Nothing new to report there. Video is still an add-on not a specifically special feature for any of these parallel models.
37mm lens…? something is fishy
Why AA filter is not removed in RX100?
RX100RM2?
RX100M2?
37mm?
People, this text is soooo strange.
RX100RM2?
RX100M2?
37mm?
LOL indeed.
also “allowing transferring images by “typing” the camera”
what is typing? tapping i believe. just like smart phone or tsblet
If this cameras are to coexist with the RX100, why call it M2?
this is wrong.
Why is Apple still selling the iphone 4s?
RX100M2 image looks fake to me – the hotshoe looks photoshopped.
2 questions on that RX100M2:
Can it use the RX1’s EVF? I hope so, even the HX50V can use it now.
Sticker Zeiss logo?
Yes, the evf works with the mkii.
That hotshot on the rx100…something doesn’t look quite right – compare it to the hotshoe on the image of the rx1. I think this photo is a poor manipulation of an image of the original rx100.
Any expert here knows if there is any webpage link on removing AA filter at sensor, will there be any increase in ISO noise? Especially low light or nightshot at the sky. Everything I search, is about moires or sharpness in bright lights, I am sure there would be some differences as the sensor is sharper without the AA. I would love to see some website/blog that could compare light low and high ISO with AA and without AA. Thanks!
Mart, you can go to DPReview and use their comparometer to compare both Nikon D800/D800e and Pentax K5-II/K5-IIs.
Also check DXOmark scores. It seems that those sensors without AA filter (D800e and K5-IIs) get a little bit better high ISO.
No effect on high ISO performance. All differences are within 0.1 EV, which is far less than margin of measuring error and sample variance.
hi, no mention of evf capability on rx100 II? a hot shoe may or may not mean an evf will mount on it…
Although the above image is fake, the hotshot will presumably be the multi-port shoe. Thus multiplier accessories will be compatible.
Are some of you people dumb and blind? The full Japanese MKII manual has been available for some time now. It clearly shows the MKII supports the EVF. There is no question.
Would be nice to see some of the things regarding autofocus they must be working on since they are going mirrorless with their pro cameras, but I think something significant would have been mentioned in the specs.
I hope this announcement brings with it a firmware update for the original RX1. I love my RX1, but let’s get some focus peaking without magnification, please…
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What a pity, good electronics and good glass (bound to be, right?) and then no way of checking focus properly *before* taking the shot.
I also have something to say about the menu-based interface, particularly on the small one.
We are still in the realm of toys here, no way I switch systems for this or the A99.
I don’t know if I would call the rx100 a “system” but it is great at what it does. I enjoy puttin gdown my a99 and being more free with it.
As for the “realm of toys,” the hardware Sony puts out is great. If they can improve the AF system on the a99, it would stand side-by-side with the 5d3. They’ll get there. They can definitely use some improvement in the firmware/software/GUI side of things. They make some bizarre choices – like not allowing the user to set shutter & aperture when using AF for video. It’s illogical but no need to be so pessimistic.
Tity
Why did you post here?
You don’t have a alpha, find somewhere else to post your trash
I wonder what system and model you use
If its not a D800 or 5DIII , YOU WOULD BE STEPPING UP!!!
Good luck
Interesting. The 1″-type sensor in the RX100 is actually 16mm diagonal.
If I understand correctly, the sensor in the RX100MII is truly 1″ diagonal? That would be 25.4mm!!
That’s a *significant* increase in sensor real estate.
It would be BIGGER than a micro 4/3 (22.5mm).
Did I get that right????
That can’t be right…
It’s not right.
See this chart: http://cache.backpackinglight.com/backpackinglight/user_uploads/1339023820_64063.png
In that diagram though, the 1″ (CX, as Nikon calls it) sensor doesn’t actually refer to a size or measurement, it’s really just a sensor ‘designation’ or ‘name’
It’s a misnomer that has it roots in TV camera tubes. If you look at the sensor, you won’t find a side, diagonal, perimeter, area or any measurement that is actually ‘one inch’.
“One-inch TYPE sensors” are really 13.2mm × 8.8mm with a diagonal of 15.9mm
A lot of people complained about that when these cameras where launched, saying it’s ‘false advertising’ (especially if you’re use to ‘full frame’ sensors which are in fact the size of full frame 35mm film, and actually are 35mm diagonal)
But really Sony has been pretty good from what I’ve seen, calling it a “1-inch *TYPE* sensor”. I think they’ve been pretty clear.
However, in the info above, it says: “The RX100M2 uses a new sensor production technique to produce a Exmor R CMOS sensor as large as 1-inch. This is said to significantly improve the camera’s low-light picture image capability.”
This implies the sensor is truly, really, physically one-inch. If that were the case, it would be really cool! But I see now that it’s using the same lens on a body roughly the same size, and so a significantly larger sensor simply ins’t possibly in that configuration.
My guess then is it’s using the same same sensor as the RX100 (16mm) and not a larger one. The only difference is probably the -R designation, meaning it’s back illuminated.
So… the big ($749) question is: based on the change is sensor alone… is it worth upgrading from the RX100 to the RX100 MII? Sony claims the -R sensors provide 2x the sensitivity (compared to conventional sensors)! That’s a bold claim!!
Anyone know if it’s true???
Does any have a DX0 link comparing similar sized sensor (same pixel density) of a -R sensor, and a non-R sensor?
Why is it spelled “lense”? That’s not correct in English…