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These are the brand new rumors I got from two trusted sources. These kind of sources shared correct “rumors” in the past. But that’s yet not a guarantee the info here will be correct too. Here is what they told me:
1) New A6xxx will not replace the A6000 but be placed above it. The final name of the camera is yet not clear as it has a “working title” only. It could be named “A7000”.
2) The A6xxx was indeed scheduled to be released earlier in May. But it’s now scheduled to be announced around mid June.
3) The camera will ship in late June in Japan. July elsewhere.
So far five(!) trusted sources who contacted me told me that the new A6xxx camera is placed above the A6000. That’s good news! Now let’s just hope this is the real final announcement date rumor!
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Thanks!!! This is great new info…
Thanks to the sources for helping me out on that!
But A7rII still hoped for in the next few days??
They told me only Sony Tokyo knwos when they will release it. That said stores got notified about such a camera. I am tryign to push them to send me more info about the date..
Rumors are quite confusing last weeks:
1. there was said A6XXX was delayed because of sensor-heating at 4K video
2. there was a rumor that said, 4K video has been thrown out
3. now the rumor says it was planned earlier and has been delayed (match to 1.)
Admin: any words about 4K?
Wait, maybe with my poor english I have not been ery clear.
1) The A6xxx or A7xxx should ave been released around May.
2) Release got delayed (trusted source)
3) One anonymosu soruce said there were overheating issues
4) Launch has now been postponed to mid June.
I have yet to get info if
1) they solved the 4K overheating issue
2) They got rid of 4K and camera records with XAVC-S” only”
So the “big thing” in the new camera could be: IBIS, 4K video and the XAVC-S codec?
yes. could. But I have no reliable info about that yet.
Thanks! I think, with an OSS lens and no interest in video, I’ll just listen to Manuel Neuer and buy an A6000 now. 😉
BOMB-RUMOR coming VERY SOON!
posted on http://www.fujirumors.com/ …. Maybe they know more 🙂
I know it as he told me. And it’s something I have to admit is really cool. Althauh Sony is rumored to do the same 😉
Sounds cool 🙂
It is!
So Fuji are developing a Medium Format camera 🙂 Are Sony as well???
Drool..
I was going to guess Fuji going FF (good timing since Zeiss most likely would make X versions of the Loxias and Batis), but that seems not to be the case then.
No. Not FF 🙂
I think Fuji have hinted they have no intention of going FF in the short to medium term. Lenses such as the 56/1.2 are designed to compete with FF counterparts. There isn’t really any saving in size and weight, it’s just a different approach to competing with FF manufacturers.
Ok, it makes sense. Being the size Fuji are, they are probably better off (better profit) focusing on a specific segment.
P.S.: I took off from “real work” to work on rumors. So feel free to send me questions through the commen system and I will answer you 🙂
I hope for some more rumors for the A7r II
Me too. As far as I heard. The A7rII is kept very secret and they will announce it just like the A7II (no press event).
Different story for the A6xxx (or A7xxx)
I hope for some more rumors for the A99 II
Me too 🙂
But what do you expect? Very most likely it will be the current A7r with the same advancements of the A7II (better AF, larger body, maybe IBIS). It will come sooner or later. Why being excited about it.
Any rumored specs on the A6xxx/A7xxx?
Such as IBIS, touchscreen… etc?
No. But I have been told Sony considers this to be the first APS-C PRO model.
Now that is VERY interesting, if true, bearing in mind where the NEX-7 was positioned in the market.
That said I am wondering if it makes sense to launch a PRO level camera without having a PRO lens line for APS-C. Of course you cna use FE lenses but than there is the crop factor and the huge size of those lenses to consider.
sad but true
but always in the sweet spot 🙂 consider the IQ of the new batis on a crop sensor… !
True, but many of those who are interested in such a camera will have no issue using FF lenses. I just need a decent APS-C model with fast AF to use with my FE 70-200mm (and FE 90mm when I get hold of that).
Being “pro” suggests it will have excellent build quality, which will hopefully include the much stronger mount from the A7 II.
The A6000 is still tempting, especially with its low price and cashback in the UK, but the older mount does put me off a bit.
Glancing over at Canon, with their huge lens portfolio, very few if any crop lenses are outspokenly pro. Canon does not even put the “L” designation on any crop lenses at all. Not saying they don’t have good crop lenses, just wanted to give an example of how the camera companies seems to reason.
Indeed. You don’t see many 7D level users complaining about the lack of “pro” crop lenses.
Touit 12/2.8, Touit 32/1.8, Touit 50/2.8 Macro, Zeiss 24/1.8, Zeiss 55/1.8 are a “Pro” lenses for me. Sony should bring Zeiss 16/1.8 and 85/2.8 Zeiss and majority of prime E shooters will be very happy. I hope A7000 will be a Pro APS-C, I will not move for heavier, bigger Sony A7x with larger/monster and more expensive primes. I want small Sony E Pro cam + 16/1.8 Zeiss, unless Sony wants me to move for Fuji X-Pro2.
Sounds good. I have waited long time for 120fps in 1080p in a compact body.
So we will se the A6xxx not in May? The release is delayed until June ?
Exactly. A6xxx (or A7xxx) release now likely in mid-June.
Dammit I just walked away from an amazing a6000 deal because this thing was supposed to be announced this week. Is this damn thing ever coming out?
That just shows how stupid it is to rely on rumors…
And yes the A6xxx will come, if it is to your liking is to be seen. When it is not you feel extra stupid to let go the great deal!
I would have felt even stupider buying the a6000 two days before the new model came out with the exact features I was hoping the a6000 had. Get off your high horse and work on your grammar.
I don’t regret the decision, I’m just frustrated that I have longer to wait.
yeah, i also walked away from the amazon deal. I hope the A6xxx (or A7xxx) get IBIS and a Touchscreen. Any Pricetag so far? i think OVP could around 700€? Or do u think it will be more?
What happened with the rumor about a full frame sony camera for 799? 😉
Got nothing. But Sony is working on that as you can see from the patent:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-super-compact-e-mount-full-frame-camera-patent/
hmm, if they are developing such camera, when do you think it will arrive? 🙂
No idea. Only know A7rII, A6xxx (or A7xxx), A99II, A7sII and A9 are being developed.
but “only” means that there are several very nice (high end) cameras are coming… that’s good even without discount FF body
Are you sure about the A99ii are under development?
If it is true, it will be the best news forever.
How can he possibly be “sure” of anything….real Sony rumors have become very scarce lately, he just does the best he can.
Are we looking at Christmas now for the A7sII ? That’s what I want! the shutter button forward will make a bid difference to shooting experience
Possibly yes. But first let’s hope the A7rII si finally coming (and not delayed like it happened with the A6xxx).
I’m actually considering sending back my a6000 i just bought to wait and see what they announce coming months
Sony has a Dual SLT design patent a few years ago,
but still no real product yet.
So patent means nothing, it may never be a product.
What happened to the RX2… not likely?
I will know that begin of June. On ethe “leaked” roadmap there were hints on new RX camera(s) coming in June.
Worthless if not supported by good quality and unique APS-C lenses. An APS-C exclusive action/sports zoom is needed to take advantage of the crop sensor. All other current APS-C offerings (Apart from 10-18 which is actually quite good) are travel/beginner oriented lenses, so no “professional” would see much value in having a pro-build APS-C body.
Wouldn’t it be really good if Sony had a smallish 100-400 zoom for crop sensors?
yep!
You want small ?
May be it will be 100-400mm F8~F11
Not palm-sized but maybe slightly larger than current FE 70-200.
I would love that lens and buy it when it was not to expensive….
What about the 55-210mm (82-315mm)? It’s not brilliant but so aren’t any not over-sized or over-priced pro teles.
+1 the sony lenses either suck or they cost 33% more than the competition.
no wonder A7 user choose canon glas…..
One must look at Fuji’s lens system to see what could’ve been done with an APS-C system. Surely they’re not cheap too but each of their lenses have at least one clear advantage on all their competitors’ offerings, either by being smaller, faster, sharper or having a more beautiful rendering.
OSS?
Some of their lenses have it too.
Absolutely true. If I wouldn’t hate the X-Trans sensor, I would probably be a Fuji user.
Just switch to Capture One, that’ll cure most of your issues with the sensor I believe :).
Apparently, some of us are 33% richer than the competition.
That’s probably one of the reasons why I switched from NEX5N-24mm1.8 to a Ricoh GR. Because I’m rather on the 33% poorer side. LOL
In addition to the wide-angle, I also find the 24mm, 35mm, and 50mm primes are pretty good. I wouldn’t say any of the Zeiss lenses are beginner oriented.
Agreed about the tele though – would like to see a better telephoto/sports zoom.
24/1.8 is too expensive and I never liked how it renders. 35 is not bad but 50 on aps-c is uselessly short for a tele and awkwardly long for an everyday lens.
So you say a 75-85mm lens on FF is uselessly short for a tele and awkwardly long for an everyday lens? Bold statement.
Typically this is the perfect focal length for portraits. And indeed, the 55/1.8 Zeiss perfectly fits FF users as a standard 50mm prime and APS-C users as a 85mm portrait prime. The upcoming 85/1.8 Batis will also meet FF portrait users and 135mm APS-C shooter. Although that is not my preferred length for portraits. However 135mm on crop (200mm) can make some nice portrait shots.
hey 24/1.8 is rad!
It’s also more expensive than FE 35/2.8. In fact, A7+35/2.8 would be the same price as how much a Nex 7 cost + 24/1.8.
yeah, i’ve got it when it was heavily discounted. Only half of the price haha.
So are the Touits. But the demand seems to have been so-so since they were being sold with discount pretty soon after introduction. Obviously, there are not too many crop shooters who are prepared to pay for good glass.
I would if they also had OSS like the Sony lenses. Sony may be reluctant to go with IBIS because many of us may then switch lens brands.
I think that’s the conundrum for the lens producers, including Sony. Most of those that are willing to fork out $$$ for top-shelf glass are usually buying FF, so it’s probably not worth the risk to them to produce a bunch of high-end APS-C glass. Those Touits are really nice, though – I have both the 32mm and 12mm, and I love them.
One of the reasons is that they never supported PDAF (until A6000, I guess) for whatever reason. In that regard it was DOA.
16-70mm is beginner oriented?
Forgot about that, never cared for standard zooms. Also, it’s not very high-end after all, is it?
i don’t know. I was asking before buying 😀 even if some said it s a good lens in APS-C which had both positive and negative reviews. From MTF charts, seems working very well from the center to the borders at 16mm and better at 70mm
But the NEX7 was successfull nevertheless. The Sonnar 24/1.8 (I use one for years) and the Touit’s are pretty serious glass.
Had the Nex 7 for years. Abandoned when A7 came out. I’d actually like to keep it but lack of firmware upgrades made it feel very old and limited once I got the taste of A7.
I’m not talking about a faster processor or FF sensor. More customizability small fixed made a lot of difference between A7 and Nex 7. Most of these could’ve made their way into Nex 7 as well but Sony chose to abandon it.
I could never convince myself to buy the 24/1.8 though. Too expensive for what it does.
you must be a genius admin.. the a6xxx is placed above the a6000…. well who would have thought that without your investigative journalism?
i would say if it was placed BELOW the A6000 the name would not begin with A6…….
No, you did not get it correctly! Usually with Sony when they name it A6100 it means it’s the successor of the A6000 (see the A5100 for example). But this one is a NEW kind of camera. Not a new A6000 replacement!
One of the sources also said it could also be named A7000.
I do want to say that the A5100was not the successor of the A5000. The A5000 was the successor of the Nex 3 series cameras, and the A5100 is the successor of the Nex 5 series cameras.
I think (but I can be wrong) the the naming convetnion of Sony mirrorless cameras is a bit like this:
A7x: FF cameras with DSLR look
A3xxx: APS sized camera with DSLR look
A5xxx: APS camera without EVF, “RF” look
A6xxx: APS camera with EVF RF look.
BTW I like your wrk on this site…
How the a5100 is a nex5 successor ?
It should have said Nex5t replacement as it is an APS, rangefinder styled camera without EVF, but with Touchscreen. As all the Nex 5x, cameras where (well the Nex 5 didnot have a touchscreen….
Classy.
Placed above would mean it is higher end in terms of market placement, which is not the same as simply being a successor to a previous model. I think most people here now understand that, or perhaps not.
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“The final name of the name”… 🙂
No hope for the 50+ mp Sony camera in 2015.
wait! 🙂
…there still is time for washing in the pool, wash away the low MP past.
Wait for what?
…until 2016? 😉
Good news everyone! There probably is a 14mm Sigma coming for your favorite APS-C mirrorless system: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/3130344618/sigma-announces-price-and-release-date-for-its-21mm-dp0-quattro-compact-camera
unlikely, all other DN primes appeared before corresponding Merill bodies.
As far as I remember, the 19mm and 30mm lens design dates back to the very first Sigma DP models. They came out before the E-Mount/M43 DN lenses.
Nah, old sigma dps used 17 mm and 24 mm lenses and smaller than APS-C sensor and were classic compact cameras with collapsible lens and leaf shutter.
You are right. I take it back. 😀
no, first sigma dps were classic compacts with collapsible lenses, leaf shutters and FLs were 17 and 24 mm
“name is yet not clear as it has a “working title” only.”
??????????????
If it doesn’t have a name it is atleast 6 months from being available!
No, it has a name in Tokyo headquarter. But outside Tokyo they only share a “work” name.
Admin Is there anything news to A7R II announcement??? Is it still in May or even later again???
No news lately. I keep asking around and sources did not get fedback lately about that from Sony. A part of the fact that just like the A7II this will be a suprise annoucnement. This means only Tokyo knows the announcement date. And noone outside will be informed before that date.
When is the next photography show? I am sad because I wanted to buy a new camera and I bet if I buy one tomorrow there’ll be a new one the next day
surprise announcement indeed. We have to wait to for digicame for the leak like A7II. Anyone guess now.
A bit disappointing that the new camera will not be an update of the a6000. It is a great camera, but it could use a few modifications. It sounds as if the new camera will be at a different price level. If it is going to have IBIS and cost more, why not just go with the A7II? I think my personal road map just got changed.
There are some advantages of the APS over the A7II, including:
– corner viewfinder (many prefer the rangefinder style)
– faster AF
– smaller overall kit size (especially when you factor in lenses)
– silent shutter (hopefully)
– still generally less expensive
I like having both (APS-C, FF) at my disposal 🙂
I do have an a6000 with 4 aps-c lenses, which is really all I need. I also have 9 or 10 Nikon manual focus lenses with a metabones adapter. I am just looking for a second body. The A7II would not be a good fit only because of my Sony aps-c lenses, but it would be great for those Nikon legacy lenses, and I could use my crop sensor lenses in a pinch. Decisions decisions….
The Samsung NX1 is more expensive than the A7. The A6000 is really a phenomenal deal. I don’t mind paying more for a more advanced APS-C camera. And yet – we don’t really know what’s coming.
Anyone thinks the A6xxx could come in an A7-ish shape?
So the final question is, will it blend?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zcdoa0XCFo
This is an SR4 about nothing, since there are not rumoured specs in it.
It seems to me Sonys best coarse of action is to combine the rumored a7rii and rumored a9 into a single flagship high mp camera, and release it asap so it becomes available before the Canon high mp camera begins shipping.
If Sony (and Nikon) wants to compete directly with the new Canon 5Ds, yes, at least they should announce a new high density sensor before the Canons hit the stores! If not, maybe Sony thinks it is not worth to do it just for the Sony line alone or they need the production capacity for phone sensors or something..
Sure Mr. Levin… and you forgot to mention with 78MP…
Skip.
Waste of time. 50MP belongs in an A99II. Anyone shelling out that money can afford native lenses and Canon takes the crown on that one. Who would want to adapt a lens over to a 3k plus body? Makes zero sense. You would have just went full rediculous.
Sony doesn’t have the lens line up quite yet to drop that kind of a camera. No where near enough market pull. They can’t even bake in a decent freaking AF with 36. It belongs in A mount land. 70-400- check. 70-200- check. Third party options- check. Big ol’ fast 300 and 500 lenses- check. It makes zero sense to put it in the most unrefined body of any camera currently in existence. They need to nail the A7R with 36 down before they cram more res in there. And again- dual card slots for the love of God.
A mounnt is dead.
Sony will not put major resources into A mount, and A mount users are getting tired of waiting and switching either to E mount or competitor systems.
If Sony ever does decide to revisit A mount it will be too late. Peaple will np longer invest in a mount for fear of obsolescence, and too many people have , or will, bail out to keep the system financially viable.
Sony is currently re issuing a few A mount lenses. When as expected these lenses sell poorly it will serve as the proof Sony is looking for to justify phasing out A mount.
Hopefully Sony will at least come out with new improved adapters.
I expect we will see both a new laea5 and laea6.
We already know what Nikon can do with sensor tech, especially in cooperation from Sony, but it doesn’t matter. Canon users are going to buy the Canon, no matter what. It is difficult to understand, but anything Canon plops out there they will buy it. They complain about the dated sensor technology, which is apparently alive and well in their 50mp camera, but Canon users will swear it is raining when they feel that warm liquid running down their backs. “Just take my money and give me anything you have.”
Expect to hear another delay in early June or, more likely, just ignored for some other news – same like the last 2 times this “new nex 7” was arriving “soon”.
Yup.. So true..
Ahhhhh, you are so pessimistic, my friend!
You will definitely be very pleasantly surprised, mark my words!
Today SAR posts that they are not sure about A7000 in June & begin to back-peddle…
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr2-strangest-a7rii-rumor-so-far-two-testers-said-it-has-curved-full-frame-sensor/
I am hoping the reason for Nikon silence is that if they plan to buy Sony’s latest sensor they don’t dare leak that info unto Sony says it’s ok to leak it.
It would be nice if both Sony and Nikon both released thier better 50+ mp cameras before Canon.
And hopefully before my next photo shoot.
I suspect the Sony/Nikon arrangement is not a one-sided affair. I still believe that Nikon did most of the development on the 36mp sensor, and that was why Sony did not use the technology for two years. Much in the same way Nikon developed the sensor for the D4/Df. They have use a number of fabricators, but of course if you want mass production it pretty much has to be Sony.
If the ‘A7000’ is bigger and heavier than the A6000, I’m not interested. That would be sad.
Weather-sealing would be a reason I would take a heavier camera. Of course, this requires weather-sealed lenses.
Weather-sealing and IBIS.
No argument from me.
Weather-sealing is great, but with which weather-sealed lenses? $1000+ FEs? Even they just claim to be weather-sealed, while lacking even the basic rubber rings around the mounts (just like Sony claims of weather-sealed cameras are fake as there is no even basic rubber seals around doors, let alone anything more serious).
Agreed. I notice people going crazy about the sealing on loxias. Canon have had them for years
Fair point.
Sony can put out a few APS-C, as Pentax does. Not every lens needs it, like a portrait lens. A wide angle and a few zooms would be good.
Sony did not release a single APS-C E-mount lens in a year or two. Maybe they are making those secret f/2.8 WR zooms. But probably not.
Touch screen and IP67 or IP68 🙂
So, this is what remains of the big announcement that was due May 20-21st?
same advancements of the A7II and hopefully also improvement for shutter shake would make me happy…
“placed above the A6000. That’s good news!”
How is it good news? It means it will be priced higher than a replacement would have been. What is so good about that?
more features than on A6000, so it s a worthy upgrade.Btw this new version will be anyway smaller than A7x series and M43 camera. So you will just need a bigger pockets but not a piece of luggage to carry it 😉
a6000 would need more features than a6000 too, otherwise why anybody would not just buy an old a6000?
Hello Andrea,
does this mean the 21-22 May announcement is that they will not announce the new A6xxx/A7000 alike camera before mid June?
It’s a great innovation from Sony to have special announcement to announce future announcement :D…. Thanks Andrea
PS : Middle finger to Sony 😉 for pre announcement of nothing but a broken mirror 😉
PPS: i was just waiting for new camera announcement to know if i would buy it or invest in new lense first 😀
All I can say is it better have internal 4k or Sony is dead to me.
for real internal 4k better switch to future A7s ii , IMO
I’m just not buying any cameras that don’t do internal 4k. Often I do multi-camera shoots and I want all my cameras to do internal 4k. I don’t want to mess with external recorders all the time. And 1080P is totally dead to me.
We’ll keep that in mind, Mr. Fellini.
We hear you and will definitely try to give you a very pleasant surprise, so just hang on in there!
If it has internal 8K- I’m assuming you’ll have to kill it then.
Sony CEO; “How can we make replacement models more expensive”? Lets say it is a new higher model and not a replacement and keep milking the old model as well; Brilliant but Evil
I think when I first heard the rumors it was A7000 which was high end APS-C model.
Ant then recent rumor posted that it’s a A6XXX instead, and then it’s a A6XXX which is not a A6000 replacement, and now it could be named A7000 after all.
The first rumor must’ve been correct all this time.
Sony has to go back to the clearly defined 3/5/6/7 line-up, like the NEXes were
A3xxx – entry level, very compact, plastic body, no EVF
A5xxx – very compact, metal body, no EVF
A6xxx – compact, EVF
A7xxx – compact, but heavier and more solid, EVF, perhaps in-body stabilization, Tri-Navi
perhaps add a pro-grade A9xxx model
Now the complete line-up is a mess:
the 3 series got a bridge camera form factor
the 5 series is closer to the older 3 series
the 6 series is very good and only competitive one!
the 7 series were never renewed
I don’t think it is a mess, the old numbering dates from the Minolta time, the new nubering is clear as can be:
A3xxx: DSLR style APS-C Mirrorless camera (low range)
A5xxx: Range Finder Style APS-C mirrorless camera no EVF (mid range)
A6xxx: Range Finder Style APS-C mirrorless camera with EVF (High range)
Then there is the A7x cameras: FF DSLR styled camera with FF sensor.
A strong line-up is where customers are well spread between models.
In the current line-up
A3xxx – is completely irrelevant. After the initial announcement, I’ve never heard anyone talk about it, ask about it, use it in the real world or even review it on-line.
A5xxx – is an NEX 3 camera, and NEX 5 series effectively got downgraded, plastic body, lost the touch screen, lower frame rate and more. I’ve not seen much interest into A5xxx series, or anyone using one of these.
I still keep my NEX 5N and wouldn’t replace it for a camera of the A5xxx series
A6xxx – the only decent replacement/upgrade in the line-up and all interest is concentrated here, it got a lot of reviews, rewards, everyone wants one.
A7xxx – nothing has been announced to fully replace NEX 7 and there people want one.
Having a mirror-less APSC line where one model A6000 gets 90% of all sales is not a good strategy, because they lose many potential buyers/upgraders.
You forget one thing. The A6000 is priced at about the same level as the NEX-5N/5R/5T (or close enough). The A5100 is actually a pretty nice model which is better featured than any 5 series NEX. The A5000 is an analog of the 3 series cameras. It’s not a bad lineup (for the APS-C). A higher end APS-C model would be nice. We’ll see what Sony has in store soon enough.
It’s because they are merging A and E into 1 happy Alpha family..
A3000 has an A-mount form factor, though it is really E-mount, so it is the entry level dSLR.
The A58 and A5100 are about the same level.
Then the A6000
Then the A77ii
Then the A7
Then the A7ii
Then the A7r/A99 about the same level, though A7rii will be above A99
Then the A7s
and likely, eventually an A9 or A9ii
It’s no longer a complete E-line, and a complete A-line. I think Sony looks at it as one complete merged line-up.
What I mean is that before they had a very strong line-up of mirror-less APSC cameras covering the entire range with customers well distributed between models. I’m talking about how the features were distributed between the models
NEX3 was a cheap little camera with a great sensor and no EVF and there were plenty of people buying it. Now we have A3000 in the lower segment with a DSLR styled body that nobody cares about, I’ve not seen anyone want it, use it, review it or talk about it.
NEX5 had a solid metal body and several improved features. It was probably a bit more popular than 3, but still close and these two covered very well customers who didn’t want an EVF (coming from P&S or preferred compactness).
NEX 6 was a bit chunkier than 5, plastic, but had the EVF so all customers that wanted a finder had an affordable option
NEX 7 was a more premium version with a finder, Tri-Navi and very solid build
I understand that now it is part of a larger line, but they could have just transferred the APSC mirror-less 3/5/6/7 series to the four digit models and kept the feature sets.
Now they are satisfying mainly customers that liked the 6 series plastic body with EVF (A6000) and the 3 series customers, because the new A5xxx is closer to NEX 3 than 5.
No, 85mm on FF is good for portraits. 75mm is just a bit short. Also, f/1.8 aperture is not really impressive for an APS-C portrait lens at 50mm. Btw, I actually use Sony’s 85/2.8 on FF and it’s quite an impressive lens (And only affordable native FF option right now). Still, I also have a Canon FD 85/1.8 when I need more DOF and light.
so do these sources have access to the Tokyo headquarter …..
What could Sony possibly offer that would stand above but not replace the A6000? Something that maintains the rangefinder style and size. Weather sealing, lossless RAW or improved sensor alone seem not sufficient. I think that it must be either IBIS (5 or 3 axes) or else FF.
What do you think of better build quality, I don’t care but some want metal construction. Other things could be: higher resolution EVF, return of the level, faster AF, higher resolution sensor, Global sutter on the sensor, 4K video, Bigger buffer, more FPS etc.
Yep, I think even only a solid metal weather-sealed body, Tri-Navi, lossless RAW would be enough for many to go for an A7000 model.
And many more if bigger features like bigger buffer or in-body stabilisation are added.
I think Sony definitely have to try make a “pro” model in their APSC mirror-less line. I think they are losing customers to Fuji, Pana, Samsung NX1 that have been crying for an NEX 7 replacement for years.
Agree. Sony understood that pushing APS-C users for moving to FF does not work, because many value APS-C small size with small lenses much more than bigger and heavier FF with big lenses. I wait for A7000 Pro.
My hope is for XAVC, audio input and controls (preferably with mic-in also). If Sony will include these in their new camera, i’m definitely buying.
There are any things that could be improved or upgraded. And I’m interested as long as they don’t make the camera significantly bigger or heavier. It’s a familiar pathology in the automotive world – the new model is always “more luxurious”, with another 4″ in the wheelbase. I hope Sony doesn’t fall prey to that infection. Size and weight are the big selling point for the a6000.
I already own a Sony a6000. If the upcoming a6xxx or a7xxx does not have 4k, I am buying a 5100 just for the .xavc codec for way less. I don’t see myself spending possibly 800-1000 on a cam that will only record on 1080p. Please Sony, hear my prayers. 🙂
They are atheists unfortunately.
They are devoted to Mammon.
Lol!
Buy panasonic G7 and you will happy 🙂
That’s exactly my point! As much as I love Sony, the G7 sounds very promising for the price. Even Gopro has a 4k cam. Since I am not a professional videographer, basic 4k will do it for now. But I still believe in Sony. 🙂
personally for me I prefer the A6100 or A6000 m2 have a 5 axis IBIS over 4k as it is more of a range finder – small and compact body – I think Sony needs to create a new camera that does 4k something in line with the Panasonic G6 for similar price –
I hope Panasonic adheres that in their GX8 coming later this year – to improve their 3 axis IBIS and make it available for video or even have a 5 axis as again it is competing with the Olympus OMD – Em5 m2 – the GX7/8 is a range finder style camera and should remain more of a still shooter then a video machine –
The problem seems to be that they cannot make a camera with 3 or 5 Axis IBIS and 4K – I guess to some heating issues –
I think Olympus did the right thing with the EM5 M2 to keep the 5 axis IBIS and not to include 4k – however they have no 4k camera which they need to address –
hopefully in 2 years there will be 5 axis IBIS and 4K –
Sony should make a cheaper version of the A7s with internal recording 4k – as the A7s body is better suited for video – not that much larger – but price needs to be around $800 to compete with the G7 –
But, when they keep the old model still in production, whop will buy the more expensive new model when it is the same camera in a new sleeve? No when it is an higher end camera it must be better at some things (Like build quality, better resolution of sensor and EVF, better frame rate, better buffer, better video etc…)
What about the A9 that was SR-5 rumored to come 4 months ago?
SR5 means it s an almost certainly correct rumor, but even such a rumor are unpredictable like electron and can disappear from our point of view without warning ;), better wait for next round to get news from A9
I didn’t like Sony following heisenberg principle!
Delayed. Sony slowed donw the release cycle.
Sounds like Sony is struggling to get the next level of tech
right – MP or 4K or both.
Sony for a while was going crazy – especially on the NEX5 – to NEX5n to R to T to A5000 to A5100 – while most seam to update every 2 years at the earliest –
Fuji did a year cycle on the X10 to X20 and some fairly quick cycle on the X100 which was so needed as the X100 was just the slowest focusing camera that I have ever owned – but it was still hailed as an awesome camera 🙂 – the X100s was much needed and came fairly quick and then the T – I think it is better to have a 2 – 3 cycle but have some firmware updates so folks do not get frustrated with some poor design that sometimes creeps in – but when the update comes it is a notable improvement not just some minor cosmetic change – like that of the Fuji X20-X30 with same sensor and same processor after 2-3 years of a wait – larger body but still not a 1 inch sensor – a huge disappointment for many
if this camera is delayed again and won’t be available until July guess I will be going a different direction. was excited to go sony and thought it would be available before vacation but if i have to wait that long guess i will have to go a different direction. which is fine as it seems sony doesn’t do much for firmware updates and some other companies have done major work with updates to their cameras lately. and who cares about 4k. maybe for future proofing. television networks aren’t expected to push out 4k as a standard. rumor is they will wait for 8k before doing another major upgrade. only thing relevant to me for 4k is computer monitors but 4k doesn’t seem like a great natural resolution for pc. though the nearly 4k ultrawide lg monitors are nice.
Sure Samsung has better firmware support than Sony.
that is true – I think Sony could do a lot better there – like with the NEX line – they certainly could have changed the Menu system that everyone hated with Firmware updates – Fuji just can’t produce as much as Sony so they pacify their users with improvements which is nice –
I think you will find that more and more people are watching YouTube and other online delivery formats and these support 4k now
I just don’t see a market for a high-end camera for YouTube.
Really? Do you know how much content is produced for online only release? Also, Netflix is 4K too.
Ignore online/Youtube/Netflix at your peril.
And you will find that a 4K capable dslr body (GH4, A7s, G7 etc) is far from ‘high end’!
Now I know why it is called point & shot
A6XXX very likely not 🙂
A7000 hopefully not :O
What about the sensor is it possible for Sony to produce its own 28MP sensor?
They already make 24MP and 36MP sensors.
I don’t think it makes much sense for them to make a 28MP.
Do you gain that much with 28 over 24MP?
With 4MP in theory more details but less low light performance due to higher pixel density – I hear from some users that the Sony sensor is just as good –
The Samsung sensor is Backlit so that compensates for the higher density compared to the Sony 24MP sensor so low light performance should be very similar –
DXOmark scores the NX1 sensor at 83 the Sony sensor at 82 so really identical – however the Nikon D7200 sensor at 87 – but that is of course a DSLR –
The key is to use good lenses – if you where to use the kit lens on the Samsung NX1 or NX500 vs a nice sharp Prime on the Sony A6000 then the Sony would have much nicer results even though it has 4MP less pixels –
One does not need 28MP for portraits and many subjects – so it depends a lot on what you intent to use the camera for – For landscape the Nikon D810 or the Sony A7r are fantastic – but if it is low light performance you need then the Sony A7s and Nikon D4s – If you just need it for general use and many shoots will be portraits then 24MP is more then enough – the Fuji Xtrans sensor is fantastic for portraits / skin tones and is only 16MP – same with the Canon 5d M2 – the real concern with the NX line from Samsung now is lack of lenses – yes they have few but if you are interested in APS-C and do a lot of portrait type shooting then Fuji X-t1 is a good choice as they have a nice selection of lenses – I think Sony look at the NEX/now A5100 / A6000 or their APS-C lineup more of a beginner intermediate line and therefore have not produced all that many lenses but certainly more then what Samsung has now – an A6000 with the 35mm F1.8 and 50mm F1.8 ( affective 75mm decent for portraits ) are both affordable and very decent – the 50mm F1.8 has IS which is fantastic to have in a Prime – ( although not quite the quality of some of the Fuji lenses but much cheaper )
So although Samsung is now finally coming out with a nice sensor it still might not be the right time to jump in to that line due to a smaller lens selection –
Could it not have 12 mpix and high iso skills like A7S, or at least close to it’s performance in LL.
That will not happen. It would kill a decent amount of A7S sales. Even if many SAR trolls call Sony stupid, I think they will be not that stupid. 😉
It is hard to have one camera do everything – for better low light performance one needs a large sensor and a lower pixel density which means not the best combo for landscape shooting for example –
Also 5 axis IBIS is awesome but for now is not available with 4k due to heating issues – ( hopefully solved soon ) – to me the A6000 or the new A6100 or A7000 or whatever they will call it – probably A6100 – as the NEX7 has not an update in 4 years so likely the 7 will not be used – but will be 6 – and an enhanced A6000 like they have done with the RX100/m2/.3 and soon m4 – so I expect A6000 m2 or A6100 – but that camera is more of a range finder style camera and I would rather see it with 5 axis IBIS rather then 4k – They could make a cheaper version of the A7s to compete against the G7 and GH4 and NX1 from panasonic –
Can you point me in the direction of people going crazy over loxias? I would like to learn more.
Speaking for myself , I will be highly disappointed in the A6100 and A7R mk II if Sony doesn’t add H.265 HEVC and internal recording to these cameras like what’s in the SAMSUNG NX1. A more future ready codec should have been chosen rather than just a small upgrade to h.264. XAVC-S only looks good because what came before was so pathetic. CANON I think already has a much better codec in XF-AVC. Sony has zigged when they should have zagged.
I couldn’t agree less. I use video as much as the photo function and will be disappointed if h265 is used in the a7000. I’d prefer a high data rate codec like the GH4 has for 4k over h265. H265 is harder to edit and not widely supported. If I buy an a7000 (and I’m planning on it), I’m buying it to use now, I don’t want a ‘future ready codec’ because when most systems have started supporting it, a new cam will be out. At under $1000 I only expect to get a fee years out of it. Also, h265 is great due to its super low data rate but in adverse conditions you get more macroblocking which is evident in nx1 clips and this is never really an issue in gh4 clips.
4k H265 is unable to edit on todays computers. You have convert it before editing. I would vote for Apple ProRes. 😀
A6000S with 5 axis please.
but that would of course mean No 4K – I would pic 5 axis IBIS over 4K for that camera
Seems like Sony is feeding false information to “trusted sources” so as to weed out those people who shouldn’t be trusted with new information.
A6100 or 7000 ecc. Sony 4k slog or user not buy this cams. Remember NX1 NX500 from Samsung and G7 from Panasonic
THEY Do not want to SPIT IN the FS-7 RIVER… same buzziness as usaly.
normal 4k aps-c cam in 2015- we are in 2cond YEAR of 4K-MARKETING-
is for now 399,- and not one cent more NEW! So we reack this point 2016
AND DO NOT BUY A N Y T H I N G– do you coppy SONY?
think they are faling down, and thin it is 2008 and many idiots are out on run.
simple 8 bit lowtrashcodec 4k camera is not worth more…
if i want more i get bmc 10 bit poket ( age of ultron)– SONY follows CANON.
both sit with fatt ass in the biiig money-river.
BUT NOT WITH MY MONEY!
see us again in mai 2016- think you have the same rumors in same way-
” and now the A6xxxx is coming out in..??”
Youtube?
hehehe- people are not watching y-tube
they are in SELFT-OPTIMATING-MODE
they look how many clikck and followers are in
noboy watches anything elswhere— tis time is over…
WTF?
What a cruel idea.
That’s one of the groundbreaking principles of capitalism. Making as much profit as possible, not as much as you need.
Hmmm,. The date kept slipping. Sood my A6k & waiting. Think I will consider something else; sick of waiting.
Sony has had lots of updates to the NEX5 – n – r – t – A5000 – A5100 but still no NEX7 update so I do not blame you for being sick of waiting
I think it better has usable 4K video. Sony is still an electronics cam, muhc like Panny. Oly can get away with its lousy video as it has quite a gathering of photoshooters. Panny and Sony I think far less so. G7 is here and it is here at 800 dollar with kitlens. Seems like a heck of a cam in the sub1000$ catergory. May be for systemcamera’s it will be the cam to beat (no reviews yet). No doubt 4K is one of its strengths mostly…Swivle screen, 2,3 MP EVF and good ergonomics help too but if G7 would not have 4K it would be dead in the water. Same will be true for a Sony cam I fear.
Please run your next post through a ‘coherence’ filter, as this one is a bit of a challenge.
Ok its about mid june?