So far I got info about two more Sony announcements on May 7 and May 15. From what I heard the Sony A7s pricing and the RX100M3 will be unveiled. But I am yet not sure what exactlyw ill be announced when. The May 7 event flyer from Sony Hong Kong shows a big Alpha Logo. But I don’t know if they will just show the new A77II or also announce the A7s pricing. A trusted source told me he heard the RX100M3 will be unveiled on May 15.
A7s pricing: Sony is spreading different price info that’s why you didn’t see me posting an SR5 rumor yet. Store owners told me prices between $1800 and $5000. And they claim they got the info from Sony managers. So you see, better to wait for the real pricing announcement 🙂
New Zeiss 16-35mm f/4.0 FE lens: Maybe Sony will show this lens for the first time after tomorrow along the A7s pricing announcement.
RX100M specs: Nothing has changed from the previous info I got. The specs I share now are 99% correct:
20MP sensor (same as RX100M2 model)
ISO 125-25600
24-70mm f/1.8-2.8 lens
Built in View finder (SVGA OLED Tru-Finder 1440k dots)
Tiltable screen (180 degrees up)
Record in XAVC S format (Same format of the Sony A7s but with no 4K output option).
Almost same size and weight as the current RX100/M2 models.
I have been told all other specs are the same of the current RX100II model.
Price is said to be around 800-850 Euro in Europe. Should be around $800-850 in USA (US price is my guess)
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Andrea
Do you know if it has the same focusing system as the Sony A6000.
Does what have the same focussing system? You know this ‘focussing system’ is on the sensor right? So unless it is a camera that uses the same sensor or the same wafer fab it is HIGHLY unlikely. It isn’t something you can just stick on and call it a day.
I understand that the sensor would be the same as previous model but the question is will they update the processor. My understanding is that the new processor is responsible for the improvement in the focusing system.
The A6000 has hybrid AF, so it’s a combination of contrast AF and phase detection AF. Processor improvements could improve contrast AF performance, but the RX100M3 would also need physical PDAF points on the sensor in order to be similar to the A6000.
Thanks. Very good point.
Andrea do you know if RX100M3 will have physical PDAF points on the sensor?
When you say the rest is the same, does that mean that the RX100 mk3 will also have an inbuilt flash? 🙂
Full Frame A- Mount ???
Nope. This announcement is for the a77mII in Hong Kong. Doh!
The A99 is only 18 months old.
A price announcement is hardly event worthy.
I think it will just be the A77II-event for the Asian market…
Indeed. Nothing for SAR to get excited about.
Andrea, do you know if the RX100M3 will have full sensor readout like the RX10 and the A7S? This feature will be my key factor to replace my current RX100M2. Thanks
24hrs….that’s all you need to wait now.
More like another 168 hours numnuts
If 1800 price is correct I buy A7S, otherwise no thanks.
Exact the honest price of A7S is a price of GH4 (1700$-1800$) if sony would ship this camera
Come on, Sony, bring out new FF A-Mount lenses!
won’t buy anything except an A88!
But what could they remove from the A99 to make it cheaper?
The mirror and a 9.
I said cheaper. 😀
It is!
A9 – £1800 – 36MP
A9R – £2500 – 54MegaBarry
The Sony CEO just called me to confirm.
If they bring out a successor or a complementary full frame camera (a99r) Sony could keep the a99 around without change (as they did with rx100) and lower it to approx $1600. It is still a competitive camera.
But again, what would they remove to make it cheaper? With the A850 they lowered the fps and put a smaller OVF in it. I don’t see anything significant that could be removed from the A99 to make the A88.
Nothing, I’m saying they could continue to sell the “old” model alongside a new one. The rx100 steadily declined in price while selling along with the rx100-II, without anything being removed.
Ah I see your point. Cutting the price of the A99 and releasing the A99II but keeping them both current.
Yes SLT….Oh wait they did that and called it the A7
I love it when a store manager, who is about to receive stock soon (which has an agreed price) does “not know” the price.
Not once, I have ever heard about this when a product is about to be stocked.
Can’t we call Barry and ask him what will be new? He knows, I’m sure.
He must be terribly disappointed with his Sony executive contact. Was there anything he predicted right? I can’t recall what it was.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr2-rumors-posted-by-our-reader-animalsbary-a77-successor-foveon-z-shift-and-more/
“Big announcement in next couple of weeks..a lot of this info will be released then” LOL
Either this conversation didn’t happen or somebody at Sony knows who he is and was winding him up. Take your pick.
“A sony manager just actually called me to share this info so it is sr5”
LOL
In Europe there is a serious price drop on the A58, could this mean that there a successor coming very soon ?
If they could give that camera a bit more functionality, that would be nice.
That’s called the A77, you just don’t want to pay for it. 😀
Cannot see that price drop anywhere at my usual price checker… http://compare.eu/?phist=906818&age=28
It is strange that no valuable images appear or leak for the RX100-3.
Andrea, the disqus system does not loads appear on SAR and Photorumors since yesterday, I have to pass by the disqus site’s links to open the comments on both sites.
Disqus just sucks as usual.
If the a7s is around $1800 then it would be very nice. I almost saving up my money for it but after long consideration i decide to spend my money on buying lighting and some accessories first. Yes it is a great camera! if i have extra $$ i would buy it straight away and become my B-camera and pair with my fs700. FS700 too bulky, i can’t bring it anywhere and anytime, hoping having small powerful camera that good in a video can bring along with me all the time.
But what stop me was
1.no 120fps in 1080p but in 780p
2.no 4k internal
3.no 10bit output
4.auto focus not using same as a6000
5.need extra money buying more nex battery, i having a lot NP-F and A-mount battery
But all the problem above is not a problem if it is at $1800 price, it is full frame sensor that can read full pixels, extreme low light performance and super dyanamic range in that small body is the most important point.
Seem it is a new “thing” and move from sony, i would hold and see again what sony will bringing out. Still having doubt the prototype 4k dslr body that with FZ/A-mount camera will be release or a7s replace that. Next gen of a7s, maybe a9s? will be much more powerful if they can make the body size a little bit bigger.
From previous posts I believe this announcement is for the a77m2 in Hong Kong. Would be nice if it was for a FF a-mount. Doh!
I’m sick of waiting. I want instant gratification. Is that too much to ask?
Me love you long time, sucky sucky, 5 dolla.
Hi, is there any chance the rx100 III or the a7s will have good continuous autofocus in video mode? As far as I know only the Canon 70D does that job quite well up to now… Anybody knows?
Uh, and the A77? I’m not even an A-mount shooter and I feel slighted when people over look that camera. The dual pixel AF is impressive but I remember watching DxO marks comparison and feeling like the A77 was still the kind. The A77mkII should be even better.
EDIT: I wouldn’t plan on either of those two models having good continuous AF in video. Have you looked at the A6000? It has on sensor PDAF like the 70D.
This. In fact any of the SLTs do, including E-Mounts with LA-EA2/4 adapters, was using my A7 on the weekend for this and it worked well, though SLTs lock at f3.5 of max aperture when AF is enabled, which isn’t so great.
A6000 is another option. Also don’t mine the AF on the RX10 in video.
Well, I’m not against any camera, but for example the a6000 is said (EOSHD) to “hunt” quite a bit on autofocus while recording, and then it actually is quite unusuable for AF-video mode. Would you see the autofocus in video on the a77 as good as the 70D?
Interesting. I’ve seen other video of the A6000 where it was spot on. Certainly seen footage of the 70D “hunting”. Take any one reviewers conclusion with a grain of salt. I saw the A77 comparison on DxO mark. They thought the 70D was at least as good if not better than the A77 but they had the decency to post their test videos. Personally Ithought they were smoking something after watching the videos. The A77 was better.
There is a reason why many/most video pros still use manual focus in video. With AF you trusting a computer to read your mind and know what you want it to follow.
All of these options (A6000, A77, 70D, LAEA4, etc.) are good, NONE of them will be perfect. Be wary of anyone telling you otherwise.
🙂 Thanks for your reply’s! You know, I just want a camera which can do both stills and video – and for example videos of my kids, there I don’t like to worry about the focus, so up to now I just use a camcorder for that. But I’n now looking for a camera which could replace this camcorder + stills and video in manual. The a6000 would be very nice, inclusive the price, but I’m not sure yet if I could rely on in as a replacement of a camcorder…
Traditional camcorders have the inherent advantage of using a smaller sensor and therefore deeper depth of field—they have to work less to stay in focus. Personally I think the A6000 is ideal for a person in your situation. I recommend it to my family members looking for something like that. The size, IQ, speed, and price are unmatched value IMHO.
too bad, admin have hard time getting rumors 🙁
Shortly after the A7S was announced someone told me in an online discussion that some of the more advanced features (like SLOG2 specifically) would be paid upgrades. At the time I dismissed that ridiculous but I’m wondering if he may be right and that’s why there’s such crazy price spread?
Otherwise it sounds like an internal debate at Sony. Does the camera compete with the GH4? or, the Canon 5Dmk3? I’m still probably buy the A7S but the GH4 is the real game changer when it comes to price/performance.
I think they have been testing the waters and probably a bunch of hearsay as well. We’ll know soon enough, either it will be very reasonably priced or too expensive, if the later the price will drop quickly. Simple as that really.
I doubt it is a paid add-on, certainly is NOT an app, well at least not from the hands on people have had.
I didn’t mean an app more like the difference between the FS700 and FS700R (although in that case there may have been an hardware adjustment—I’m not an FS700 owner)
Personally I think an app would be pretty cool only because I’d love to have the ability to shoot SLOG2 on my A7. The video quality is only decent but SLOG would help when trying to match the footage to other cameras.
S-log 2 is an option. Sony never stated that the camera will come with S-log 2 they just say that the alpha 7s will support it.
For their pro division cameras S-log is an 3000$ option that come in the form of an firmware update. It’s expensive but not so much in the professional perspective.
Regarding the gh4, I was in Tokyo during the launch of the camera and Panasonic was pushing the product with 4k tv and lives feed from the gh4 on the street of large retail store to show the beast and to be honest I wasn’t impressed by the IQ for 4k. Like you said the video quality is decent no more. Look flat (of course the image wasn’t processed at all)
I’ve watched/read a lot of A7S reports on line. I swear I’ve heard Sony reps use words like it “has” and “comes with” SLOG2. Sony’s got to be smart enough to know that not making that clear upfront will cause a huge backlash (unless the camera is very affordable which might drown out the criticism).
The FS700 upgrade was not $3k, it was closer to $400 from what I hear. Also like the FS700 the A7S will have 8-bit SLOG. IF they SLOG comes with an upgrade to 10-bit and the camera initially sells for $1800 or less, THEN I could see an upgrade making sense. Otherwise I think Sony will sink their own boat.
Fun to speculate. Hopefully we find out in the next several days.
That’s insane, Slog2 was a free update with the FS700 a long time ago, there’s nothing special about it. Years back it was an expensive software upgrade for the F3 but that was long long ago. No one could get away charging for this these days.
The wider question is whether it is 8 bit Slog or 10 bit. AFAIK the xavc consumer codec is 8 bits only. So 8 bit Slog is very restrictive, not pro at all.
Given the fact that very poor apps are being sold by Sonythrough their palymemories (in select countries only), SLOG, etc features can be sold in a similar way. I hope they have true 14 bit output for the still captures, they can make any of the video function optional, just like the 4K recording.
That is the theoretical appeal of the “apps”. Sell the camera cheaper and pay only for the advanced features you use. Sony really needs to improve their implementation though.
I noticed the A7S page on Sony AU disappeared earlier today, so likely confirms the updating of details on the A7S.
Still up on Sony USA so doubtful. Interestingly Sony USA never lists the bit depth. Maybe there’s still hope that Sony is reworking the firmware to allow 10bit video (either internally or via HDMI like the GH4)?
+++1 ! Internally 10bit 4:2:2 !!!! Please.
This is all just hopeful but highly improbably speculation on my part. IF Sony were to add 10bit most likely it would external only like the GH4.
Dear Owner, Is their any kind of speculation on the Sony G Macro lens? Like is it APS-C or FE or 100mm or 50mm or what?
According to the roadmap it won’t be revealed or announced until late 2014 so info is scarce….I’m pretty certain that it’s an FE lens though, there is already a macro for APS-C for the NEX so no need to duplicate until they fill the FE gap…..I’m hoping it will be 100mm
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Here’s for hoping it’s an APS-C because the old NEX 30mm macro isn’t sharp and absolutely sucks without OSS. The Zeiss macro is way fucking expensive. Plus I like the Sony G 18-105mm.
OH sony…
just price the a7s ala nikon
make it $3000 (you know you want it)
then after 3 months (nikon has done it even after 3 weeks) start with promotions and rebates
so in half a year a7s sales will be xploding when you sale it at $2000
people will think they are getting the deal of the year and will rush to buy it
just like when apple released they iphone and after months of poor sales they rushed to halt the price and the rest its history (either to spur sales or to exit the market at that time, yeah i remember, noone buy iphones after the first month until the price drop)
rx100/ii gets xavc/s and the a77 mark ii is still stuck with avchd?
1, 7, 15 may… Come on!
Why can’t they be like Fuji with an open road map?
What time is the announcement on Wednesday?
The press announcement is being held as we speak
There will be a night session for registered customers and that is actually what the leaked HK announcement is about
This will be less interesting as the night session is mostly on PR talk, only during the press session will important information on the products concerned be discussed
And BTW @SR the HK announcement is for the a77-II and the a7s, pricing on the latter is still TBA
And no, no RX100-III in this launch
the road map is for FE lenses , I guess it’s a macro FE G lens but nobody knows about the focal length
Will the RX100 mk3 have wifi?
May 7th and no announcement ? So it must be on the 14th –
For sure the RX100/m2 need faster lens – but 24-70mm is a bit short – Fuji X20 has 28-110mm F2.0-F2.8 – fantastic lens – I find that I get better results with my Fuji X20 vs my RX100 in lower light – and sharper images as the X20 has no AA filter –
So if Fuji comes out with X30 as rumor has it with at least 1 inch sensor and a new EVF – then the Fuji is a go – of course it is not as small and pocket able as the RX100/m2/m3 so it will always be needed as well – but the question is if it will be worth upgrading the RX100 –
yes 24 is nice – but 75 not so – at least 100mm would be good –
I therefore also have the Olympus Stylus 1 with the 28-300mm F2.8 – so I cannot understand why Sony is just making the RX100m3 lens 24-70mm – I would have said skip the EVF it it is a matter of cost as with such a small camera one does not use a viewfinder much – of course EVF is nice in sunny days of course – but just saying it it was a matter of cost I would have preferred a 24-110mm F2.0-F2.8 vs a 24-70mm F1.8-2.8 –