Sometimes I admire fake rumor creators for their fantasy. So let’s award that guy who wrote he is a Zeiss manager and shared details about that Zeiss cameras:
“Recently, we have acquired a new sony model. The buttons and badges were stripped off. The guts were removed as well. Now, but what I did notice was this particular body was a little bit larger than the A7ii and did seem pretty look pretty identical. The thing that stuck out the most was the new mount. I notice it had a new shape and testing out some lenses, it was surprisingly able to fit both A and E mount lenses! This could be the A7 series older brother.”
LOL!
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LOL Aprils’ Fool was 2 months ago 😀
It exists folks. It’s under government wraps right now- top secret. Only the absolute top brass know about it. You push a special button on the side and it tranforms into a real A mount camera. You can go from toy mode to Big Boy mode at the push of a button. It’s awesome.
What about E-K mount hybrid by Pentax?
just curious as ive never held an a-mount lens side by side with an e-mount. would this really be impossible to design if they really really tried?
found this image https://community.sony.com/t5/media/gallerypage/image-id/10812iBDD488DE5C0AC049
E-Mount is completely electrical, while A-Mount is mechanical arpeture, electrical everything else. It would be an engineering nightmare, thats not worth the effort. But other than that might be possible.
Improving AF capabilities beyond that of EA3 is another can of worms altogether.
I did not know that about amounts lense apertures. Thanks. Today i learned.
not every thing else is electrical. A mount has to provide the screw drive for focus, found on all older and some cheaper (non-SSM) lenses.
Yep, forgot about that one. All my lenses are SSM, so no wonder it never came to mind.
Well, maybe if they really, really, really tried… 🙂
thats what i thought. but im heard they definitely could if they really really really really tired.
Admin, any upcoming rumors your keeping from us that we would all be excited about?
This is entirely feasible. We sent men to the moon almost 50 years ago, so combining 2 different lens mounts into one base should not be impossible. The autofocus could be achieved with a combination of on sensor PDF and a Z-Shift mechanism. Would be a brilliant solution.
Keep dreaming.
Pins location, quantity and information sent to those pins, diameter differences of both mounts, bayonet design (remember also the pins location), aperture control for A-mount, screw drive for A-mount, and rigidity for the mount would make it complicated and big that everyone would prefer using adapters.
what one would need is a completely different mount that can be adapted to both systems. Just like sigma did it with their machines for checking each lens performance after manufacturing. All mounts (Canikon, Pentax, Sigma, Sony) with one machine, just a few bayonet adapters). Maybe it is possible to do that if you sacrifice the srew drive meaning all screw-driven AF lenses would become MF lenses. Could imagine that as most new (high end) glass comes without screw drive.
The different mount adapters could also compensate for different distances (lens – sensor).
But to be honest… even possible that way, it’s just another LA-EA adapter….with one additional mount system. Sounds pretty much like a Sony solution 😉
Not at all. The mount diameters are different, focusing motors are completely different and body sizes are also completely different. Why would any E mount person want a huge massive bulky camera ?
What a ridiculous analogy. Yes, the Americans sent men to the Moon, but they didn’t do it by attaching rockets to a Wright biplane and calling it a hybrid. Everything was designed for the purpose.
Why on earth produce some ridiculously complicated hybrid mount with all the required complexity for two mounts that are incompatible mechanically, electronically and by sensor-flange distance when all this can be done vastly more simply with an adapter and without compromising the more compact E-mount body style.
This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.
not even in aviation you see an hydraulic line or electrical wire bundle with hybrid coupling for two different standards and now you’re going to tell me how feasible is to make an hybrid mount.
The jack@ss should have realized that if such an adapterless, hybrid camera were developed it would be about the size of an a99 not an FE camera. It would have to have the a-mount depth with the sensor moving forward to accommodate it. It would not be able to move backwards beyond the a7II body.
Not to mention the mount throats are different diameters. not even sure if the mount tabs could mechanically line up.
What makes a person tell lies like this?
Thats not even funny.
If only people took 5 minutes to look, analyze and think about how different both mounts are…
Just looking at the contact pins (and the way A-mount controls aperture) would tell them to stop being liars. I could go on for several lines explaining how hard would it be to have an hybrid mount and how big such camera would be. Not even in aviation you see ”hybrid” couplings or mounts. Everything has a separate standard and they don’t bother making ”one-size-fits-all”.
Everyone gets wrong sometimes I guess you will understand that. There is no need to be smug about it and point fingers, it’s not very nice.
Maybe you should be more humble after the various rumors of past 6 months that did it happen.
There will never be a hybrid mount. A hybrid mount camera would be as large or probably much larger than Amount camera. My LAEA4 adapter makes my A7m2 as hybrid as any A/E mount camera ever will be.
Is it the same level of impossibility like camera with ISO about half a million and recording 4K?
Even if it was possible it wouldn’t be worth the effort. What is the market for such a product?
it sounds true to me
What I’m hoping for the day they abandon a-mount is a better, bigger la-ea adapter. It doesn’t matter if it’s bulky, but I would like to have something which is ergonomically integrated with the body.
Makes me wonder some of these published rumors are just fabrication that look reasonable.
The easiest way to tell this is fake that the English is so bad. Almost all English-speaking Germans have impressive grammar. Goodness knows who typed this pile of garbage up.
What is a mount? Captain ?
Hey everyone, I found the guy that made the stupid rumour ^
I did not make anything up but I guarantee you: there are way more unbranded prototypes of different manufacturers going around with different features and designs (so rumors can be traced) than you will ever imagine.
Sony is known to develop product, which are not worth efforts. Eg.QX-1. I would buy A9 with double-mount if it is available 🙂 I have only one LA-EA3 and 5 ZA lenses. I would rather to buy double-mount camera than additional 4 LA-EA3 adapters.
Why would you buy 4 adapters if you got one already?
Because it is important to me to switch promptly lenses with a camera, so each lenses, any of over 30 lenses with more than 8 different mount, has an own adapter. It is quicker to change lenses with adapters, not to look up for adapter before You mount each lens. I don’t like Sony adapters so I stayed with one up till now. But in the near future I am going to cover all of my A-mount lenses with own adapter.
are those lenses with different mounts using electronic adapters or just cold ones? Have you considered buying those adapters without electrical contacts for you A-mount lenses? (I asume you’re using so many lenses with so many mounta and adapters for video).
And again, forget about the hybrid mount, is not going to happen.
My favorite e-mount adapter with electronic contact is metabones EF adapter (mk.III and IV) because it has an aperture pre-selection mode. Sony LA-EA adapters always sets aperture just before shutter close, it force me to see DoF effect of aperture only after taking a photo. It is ridiculous, if I wanted to be limited like that I would choice SLR over mirrorless camera. It helps only with shooting in studio with flash lights but I believe there should be some setting to boots brightness of vision without opening aperture, like changing ISO of live preview only. I know I may use special key to preview DoF but it makes it ever more complicated. With eg. Novoflex Sony-A to E-mount adapter I am not really sure if I am able to set proper aperture value and surely I lose EXIF data about aperture. It isn’t way out either (for me).
It’s a reason why i prefer to use Zeiss ZE over ZA lenses, even I know that Planar 50mm and 85mm of ZA line are optically superior to ZE/ZF counterparts.
it was you who made up this rumor?
You didn’t think it was impossible a few years ago? In fact it was reported as a potential option. http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/these-are-sonys-idea-for-the-a-and-e-mount-hybrid-camera/