The very first full size image samples taken with the new 85mm and 25mm Batis lenses have been posted on Flickr by Zeiss:
Full set of 85mm f/1.8 Batis image samples (Click here)
Full set of 25mm f/2.0 Batis image samples (Click here)
Would like to know what you think about the quality delivered by those new lenses!
Both lenses are now available for preorder at BH and Adorama:
Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 lens in US at Adorama, Bhphoto. In Eu at WexUK. In Asia at Digitalrev.
Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 lens at Adorama, Bhphoto. In EU at WexUK. In Asia at Digitalrev.
Lens shade for 85mm at Adorama, Bhphoto.
Lens shade for 25mm at Adorama, Bhphoto.
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The bokeh on that shot looks very smooth for a challenging background. Bravo.
Interesting that the higher resolution pictures do not show a camera identification in tags or EXIF. The 24MP clearly show A7 II in both places.
First 56 Mpix image from a yet to be released FE Platform?
Take a close look at the highest resolution of some of these images…
56MP where???
He’s right 8910 x 6300 SOOC.
It is only 36MP. The 36MP pictures have no camera EXIF
Well Gary is right. Look at that:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/17123880790/in/set-72157651844166820
56 Megapixel!
It’s most probably from A7RII with pixel shift technology – that’s why EXIF doesn’t show camera name.
Probably, but shifting is not a really good choice for taking portrait. I wonder why they didn’t try it on the Batis 25mm samples, since the landscape is more suitable.
oh that’s why!!!!! Because when I blow this up on my screen, I am thinking to myself, this does not looks as sharp as my typical 55FE shot at 1.8 on my A7r. Could be because we are talking about resolving 50+ resolution sensor? Then I can understand. Unless someone decided to up the resolution and that is why it does not look that sharp
How come? Could it be the A7Rii? If so, that’s crazy.
And, in 3:2 format, 8,910 x 6,300 becomes 9,450 x 6,300 = 59.5 Mpix!
The ratio is a little bit strange. If the native height is 6300px, this at least is a 6300X(6300X1.5)=59mp picture before crop!
Maybe the author did some kind of size up action for some reason~
Sizing up would be really odd if they’re trying to showcase a lens since sharpness etc would be affected.
Right, no reason to do that.
yep.
Most likely uprezzed for print. It’s ~20×30 at 300dpi.
Why up size a 36MP image??? That said strange things can happen 🙂
Andrea,
can you inquire if this is A7r II or A9?
Trusted source said they will tell me something within 7-10 days.
Could the stripped exif mean the 7Rii?
On the left side it says “Carl Zeiss Lenses; Girl #1; Sony α7R, ZEISS Batis 1.8/85”, on the right side tags are stating Sony E-Mount only.
Don’t know why somebody should blow 36mpx up to 56mpx files.
I think it could be the A7R II, yes.
Sensor Shift?
Look at the pixel dimensions on girl#1 pic
The image has been pulled
Not impressed at all. Is it just a trend to show crappy images for most promising lenses as a teasers? WTF?
No, it is still available. It just isn’t available from a website where I posted the link. I must have violated some rule on that forum.
I don’t know if links go through here, but I’ll try:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/17123880790/sizes/o/
I’m halfway inside my Canon to Sony switch but I don’t see anything here with the 85mm that looks better than what my $300 Canon 85mm f1.8 renders.
You could always mount the cheap Canon 85 mm lens on a Sony camera if it meets your requirements.
That bokeh :O
This must be a really fast shutter speed, because if you look at the reflection off the left eye, the photographer is holding the camera high in an outdoor environment. This is a really unstable way to hold the camera. So, maybe pixel sharpness would be improved with a more stable platform than arms overhead.
There is clearly a tilt screen …
He’s just stating that its held in an unstable way. He didn’t say the guy was shooting blind.
Both lenses look great.
I’m really interested in seeing comparisons between the Batis 85/1.8 and the new Mitakon 85/1.2
I’d say the Canon 85L & Batis @ f/2 would be more interesting a comparison as that’s the gold standard most of us left behind.
looking at that 85 1.8 shot on A7r at full res, I don’t know if it is good in detail and sharpness as 55 FE shot wide open (I have 55 and A7r)….. It looks very good, but 55Fe which DXO calls the best autofocus 50mm lens in existence…. might be even better. I know these are apples and oranges, but it is just to my eye after having shot 1000s+ of shot with 55, 55 still looks even bitingly sharper. However, these are first samples only so I reserve my judgment until I see more testing. I am getting this lens one way or the other.
Agreed. I’d like to see how the new Zeiss Batis stacks up against the Canon 85 1.8 too, and the legacy FD 1.2 I just ordered. 🙂
This picture has a 8910×6300 original size, but it says A7r… A9/A7rII anyone? 🙂 https://www.flickr.com/photos/carlzeisslenses/17123880790/in/set-72157651844166820
Nice catch!
Admin, please start to ask your sources about this 56MP image 🙂
Odd. 😡
Nice spot, that would be what 56MP? Could be a multi-shot deal too I suppose.
Also interesting that the next one in the series (with the proper 36MP A7r res) was taken in Februrary, and this one seems to be mid-April.
Thanks Brett for finding that one 🙂
Multi-shot while holding the camera at arm-length away from you (see the “enhance!” detail of the eye someone posted above)? Nope.
Look really close at eye lashes and stuff and you will see that it has been upsized. Not a 56mp in my opinion.
If you reveal the exif on the original page it shows the file was modified in Photoshop a couple of days after it was taken.
I’ve no idea of the reason for changing the size and resolution, unless they just wanted to provide a ‘straight to print’ version, but even that depends upon the printer having the correct default settings.
Why?
how come there is no amazon link so far? I need one. I put things on my amazon wish list and then my wife buy me things off the list for various holidays….
the first samples for any lens are usually not as good. Everyone says it is crap. Then real good photogs start shooting it, and everyone is like, wow this is awesome
ENHANCE!
LOL!
I wonder how many attempts it took to nail focus on her eyes given how the photographer is holding the camera — see the reflection in her eyes at full rez. This lens looks pretty great.
One attempt if the person used face recognition AF. It’s really usefull with human subjects.
we have eye-focus in latest e-mount camera, the image processor does the job for you.
Where is those guy who cry about the Shutter vibration ??
Why Zeiss can shoot a sharp image with LCD flip screen?
Let’s see your images. They look fine for samples.
These are really pretty sample photos to me. I can tell its not touched up yet and it still looks pretty 🙂
I like them. Certainly not crap.
The pic of the couple shot with the 85mm shows the girl’s face in-focus and the guy’s face OOF….sorry but that is crap, should never have made it on Zeiss’s flickr page.
Some people here are not impressed with the sample shots. I must ask, are you guys blind? These lenses look extremely impressive.
Nice rendering, but none of the pictures have that killer Zeiss sharpness.. Far from FE55, judging by these samples alone. On the other hand, sharpness is a bit overrated, images look very nice all in all.
I was about to write the same thing. The 85mm is still something I’m considering but the price, while reasonable for Zeiss-land, might not carry the same value as the FE55.
I dont know, i really like bokeh and overall impression, but i am afraid i`ve seen sharper 100% crops from samyang 85mm, even wide open at f1.4. Still, i am not that much into that D810/Otus thing, i would say this is sharp enough.
P.S. Take a look at the actual size picture of two girls. That blurriness to me looks more like noise reduction smudging than a lens blur. EXIF clearly says ISO100, but thats how it looks to me, like cleaned ISO800 or so. Maybe something wrong with me…
in high level lens performance sharpness indeed a bit overrated, there are many parameters that equal or more important for me like micro contrast, out of focus quality/character, contrast, flare resistancy and so on
Did I just hear someone say that sharpness is overrated?
you surely can make some good and big prints with those new toys. However since i drowned myself into foveon merrill everything looks dull at pixel level now…
The batis 85 seems that it does not suffer from lateral CA as the 85mm ZA I have.
But still has visible CA in the corners (seen in the Architecture #1 image for the 85mm or in the Las Vegas #1 image from the 25mm). Sharpness is difficult to judge because they used the crappy Sony in-camera JPG engine which blurs everything. And a lot of images are not really good photographed (for promo images).
Depends on whether it is intentional. We often make two photos side by side for couples, where either person is in focus, respectively. Clients like that. Here, my guess is that it was does intentionally to demonstrate the transition from sharp to out of focus areas.