An anonymous source sent me this:
“As far as I have understood it, the A7R II is still just 36MP, with IBIS, better ISO and speed. It will come with some other features, we’ve been told :)”
And another source also added that Sony is working on a new RAW engine. It could be implemented on the new A7rII.
The A7rII, A6100 and new RX cameras will be announced within mid May and end of June in (likely) separate announcements.
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Sounds like the 14bit raw crowd have been sending emails…
Yes, I’m sure Anton Berlin has been working 24/7.
The Good: hopefully better than current 11+7 Bit
The Bad: new software required – my LR4.4 will not support that
The Good counts much more
my goodness… LR 6.0 is available from torrents since it’s first day of release. so where’s the problem?
Just get LR+PS CC for $10/€10 per month 😉
Capture One Express is officially available for free for Sony cameras.
thx – This software was never on my list for RAW-converters.
I only considered LR and DXO. DXO gives maybe a little better image quality. But lightroom has non-destructive editing, there are thousands of tutorials, it offers a nice workflow for sorting out of thousands of pictures and you don’t have to pay double price for using FF-cameras.
I will continue to use Lightroom!
For converting from any new Sony-ARW, I will use Adobe Camera RAW – it is for free 🙂
Making converting easy – I write a small python script – so there is just one button to press after inserting SD-card.
50mp or bust.
with 50 Mb raw files? you can have it!
uncompress RAW will be around 60-70mb! XD
50mp with handheld pixel shift or bust.
Uncompressed raw would be very welcome. Not that I had any problems with present raw files, but it would (hopefully) kill a lot of the whining from amateur measurebators.
I’ve had very little problems with the current format, but it is a weakness of the Sony system.
I presume you mean ‘lossless compressed’ rather than ‘uncompressed’. A fully uncompressed RAW file would be huge and slow down the operation of the camera quite a bit 🙂
Ok ok, lossless compressed is probably the right term. You still got it didn’t you? 🙂
Yup, I got it — sorry, didn’t mean to appear pedantic 🙂
No problems! I actually appreciate it. Right should be right as we say here in Sweden. 😀
what i m really expecting is about the shutter. But i do fear about the price and the time release.I just bought one a7r at fair price. But i dream about the a7rii (if new shutter) with the new zeiss 25mm!
I hoping Sony sticks with the R stands for resolution ethos and having the A7R be a high res still and video camera. So essentially adding 4k capabilities.
The paradox is that high res sensors are just not needed for 4K. The 12MP sensor in the A7S is better suited to 4K with its full pixel readout.
IMO, 36MPix is high res since also a Otus can’t fully resolve that sensor…
Total nonsense. Do you have a shred of credible evidence to back up that claim?
4K is around 12mp, so no need for a 36mp. Video and photo has opposite requirements so it’ll always be a tradeoff, but Sony has answered with the A7s and hopefully A7sII with better DR (similar to A7r at lower ISO), better High ISO (it can always be improved right?), IBIS, internal 4K, 4D Tracking (same AF as A6000)
“4K is around 12mp”
4k is 8-9mp (depending on a kind of 4k, UHD or cinema).
A 3:2 aspect ratio sensor with high enough horizontal resolution to shoot 4K is around 12MP.
Wrong, 4:3 would be 12MP, 3:2 is about 10.
I said “around 12MP”, if you’re going to be like that then it’s more like 11.18 megapixels, which is closer to 12 than 10!
Hopefully with a lossless RAW format…
Lot to like about this rumor. But, I find it hard to believe Sony (and Nikon) would let Canon fly alone at 50mp + 🙂 … imho, not a good idea … and not a good idea for DXO lens reviews as well.
You are so sure…..;-)!
maybe the new a99II will feature that sensor…
50MP shouldn’t be that much desired at the moment.
I attended a presentation of a Canon representative at my retailers store (a friend of mine bought a 5DsR).
The 5Ds is difficult to handle. Lenses with manufacturing date before 2009 will have issues to handle the resolution compared to its expectations. In order to get sharp pictures they recommend shutter times of roughly 1/4xfl to 1/2xfl depending on fl and IS.
At tele-end of a lens at let’s say 200mm it was hard to get tack sharp pictures at times below 1/320 even with IS and mlu.
So, 36MP for an A7RII shall be deemed enough for the time being. 🙂
Try using a tripod ☺
Doesn’t help for every situation.
I was joking ofcourse. 🙂
Forcing tripods on people would be quite fun though.
Not always possible, but tripods are an often underused accessory.
Add to those the difficulties of dealing with such large files, from needing big cards and computer drives together with file transfer times, and most will find the disadvantages far outweigh any gains.
You are funny Peter Kelly. 64GB 95MB/s read speed SDXC cards cost 20 euros/dollars and you can buy faster ones with 150MB/s read speed at about 45 euros/dollars (UHS-2) … 6TB drives even tho late to the table .. are available. naturally one has to at least double all HDD space for backup reasons and it’s not free. But SD-card media is decently priced.
personally i see the biggest difference in the editing and im not talking about developing single raw files. 500+ mb photoshop files are not fun to handlle anymore. at least on my computer…
Which rules out most of adopted lenses… Given the comprises that seem to have been made in the original a7r design (af speed and no efcs), I struggle to see how use able a 50mp would be outside of a studio. On the other hand, an a7rii without compromise could sell like hot cakes.
Again… claims being made that can’t really be substantiated. I currently use my a7r at 1/fl with no problems getting sharp shots *without IS*. By increasing from 36mp to 50mp, your linear resolution increases by 18% – in other words, an 18% increase in the sensor’s ability to pick up camera motion. That’s nowhere near a 2-4x increase. It sounds like your Canon representative just has horrible technique, which doesn’t surprise me much.
I read the 50pmx is the same pixel density as the new 7D dx sensor. So there should be no difference in handling other than a larger sensor?
Fixing their RAW compression artifacts, presumably.
So it went from “between April and May” to “May and end of June”. Kind of a bummer.
The timetable you refer to was from SAR, not Sony. If it still doesn’t happen according to “schedule” – until the words come out of the horses mouth, the stipulations you find here are just that. Rumors.
May and end of June was for all of those cameras. It’s entirely possible that we’re still on course for an early May announcement for the A7rii
or RAW support will be hidden, and will be enabled only with monthly fee of $199 ?
Bought a Nikon D750 because I was curious about all the glowing reviews and it’s an amazing camera but since I’m so used to Sony (with the a6000 now), I think I’ll get a FF camera from Sony and sell the Nikon as soon as they release one that’s as fast as the a6000 in AF with better ISO performance. Come on Sony!
I shoot with a D750 as well. The A7series has a long way to go AF wise. The D750 shoots better video than all of the A7 cameras until you get to 6400 when the noise gets worse than the A7s.
Like I said, the D750 is amazing. Have used a 5D3 for years (sold about a year ago), thinking I would be ok with 100% mirrorless. The a6000 is fantastic but still has some annoyances, which is why I started looking into a SLR again. ISO performance, AF and DR is out of this world. I’m not getting the sharpness I want from the lenses I have thus far, possibly due to a combination of AF tune needed and not the best glass available (24-120 and 50/1.8) which is why I’m still interested in a Sony FF, mainly for the fantastic lenses (Zeiss) and absolutely 0% AF adjustment needed.
Sony A-series like A6000 have batteries that leave one wanting. Allso the EVF:s are not up to the specs of the competition. In my book no EFV currently available is something that I’m fully content with. I have not used The Zacuto Gracial yet or any other of very high spec one. But even the EVF on the Samsung NX1 was only so and so when I tried it.
Sony A6000 could use something light like a 50-150 2.8 to go along with it.
That’s been the kicker for me. I saw they had a sale online…D750 yesterday for 1499.00. But, no Zeiss AF glass. Both their 50 1.4 and 1.8 don’t look all that great to me either.
As long as it’s SSM… I don’t know what your experience has been with the CZ 135mm f/1.8, but man, that thing focuses like a dog for me. I usually just switch to manual with that thing.
No problems with focusing on this end. It’s loud though.
Maybe I got a bad copy then. Mine seems to hunt a lot before it locks (and yes, loud).
The Sigma 1.4’s are every bit as good as the Zeiss and cost much less. You can get the 24, 35, 50 and 85 1.4 for $3500 new or you can get the FE 35/1.4, FE55 and FE90 whenever its released for the same $$$. Like you said, 3rd party support is much better, and Sigma has stated its not going to build its Art lenses in E-mount.
True. ^^ I have the Sigma 50mm and 85mm f/1.4’s, and I’ve rented the 35mm, and they’re all outstanding.
If I went that route, I’d buy all the Sigma Art lenses.
You wanted stunning sharpness from an APS-C format camera? Full frame Sony/Zeiss 55/1.8 and Sony/Zeiss 35/1.4 are probably your best bets for now. The new SonyG 90/2.8 and the Batis line are also your best bet for upcoming sharpness. I also have a D750 because I came from a Nikon line and wanted to make use of my Nikon lenses. They have their ups and downs, and a mirrorless EVF/Monitor will always reign supreme over Liveview monitor in my opinion, and third party support for Nikon is far greater than Sony, including flashes and accessories. As long as you invest in quality Nikon glass you should be on-par if not better off than Sony glass.
I have several Nikon FF cameras and the 50mm/1.8. AF-fine tuning is essential. After that you should get very good results (I have an a7ii, too for comparison). Sharpness is very good with my cameras, too. I can’t speak for the 24-120, though.
I did the same thing – tried to go full mirrorless from the 5d3 with a combo of the GH4/A7/A7s and in the end I went back to a DSLR for better lens selection and better usability. Video on the D750 doesn’t make me miss any of the previous cameras I’ve owned. Its awesome and stills are better as well. Its the best stills/video camera on the market right now IMO.
Not really, asside from practical omissions (EVF for video), the D750 also suffers a lot more from moiré, which hints at partial read out (line skipping) vs full read out on the A7S and sharpening halos (despite less actualy fine detail) when not using an external recorder. In the latter case (external recorder) though, the A7S adds the option of 4K.
Its very difficult to induce moire with the D750, I shoot real estate and automotive stuff and I haven’t seen it in brick walls, fences, rooftops or car grilles. All of the A7 bodies outside of the A7s are plagued by severe aliasing, moire and they’re very soft compared to the D750. The D750 doesn’t have the highlight issues that affect the A7s and rolling shutter is far better – even when the A7s in APS-c mode. 4k will cost you more than $2000 in the A7s, but you already know that. Each has its pros and cons, for me there were too many cons with the A7s. And you get 14-bit raw stills, something Sony doesn’t seem to care about despite loud complaints from users. Cheers.
Nikon DSLRs Live View AF sucks…
It is worse than any of the A7 cameras…
Nikon DSLRs are unusable in Live View.
if this is true then maybe Anton will finally stfu.
Of course not, he has a more general agenda.
His “thick cover glass” myth will continue and I’m sure he’ll come up with new nonsense.
I doubt a camera with the same sensor (Sony IMX094) can achieve higher shooting speed, the sensor only allows 4.7 readouts per second. The same slow speed limits the quality of the video, the quality of live view (especially in low light, although in 8-10-but mode the readout must be a little faster) and AF speed (although the latter could be done better by using OSPDAF-filtered pixels and reading only lines with them.
Who said the same sensor? They just said 36mp.
Do you think Sony will design and produce ANOTHER 36mpix FF sensor, incurring all the fixed costs for it again? When the market for existing one is small, and the main competitor offers 50mpix in that high-res class?
That would be very illogical. Pure waste of resources.
Sony is very illogical
Yes I do; as the highest Rez sensors become 50mp and more then there will be demand for la 36mp sensor as the new 24; but it will need to be faster.
In any case we know that the sensor in the d810 is not exactly the same, as it has EFC and the A7r sensor isn’t supposedmto be capable of it.
There is no such thing as a CMOS sensor not capable of EFC.
There seem to be few 36MP sensors out there anyway. At least two or may be three. D800, A7r and D810. D810 seems to be vastly different. So even upgrading A7r II to D810 sensor would go long way
These are 3 cameras, probably all the same sensor. None goes above 5 fps. And how 810 is VASTLY different? All DxO measurements are well within their margin of error, ISO score is even EXACTLY the same.
The source never mentioned shooting speed, just “speed”, could refer to the startup time, write times etc.
My understanding is that both the 24mp and 36mp full frame sensors made by Sony have a new generation appearing this year. What changes are involved, I don’t know for sure. Moreover, it’s unclear whether the published chart of available sensors actually addresses those changes (e.g. there may be an exclusive client for the new version, and the old version is in the table of what’s “available.”).
I hope it has a silent shutter!!!
No lossy? Throw dual card slots and day one purchase…is alls I”m saying.
Do you actually need that Dual card, or did you just get caught by the negative posting?
As I understand it, Sony’s method of backup is reusing the already existing Wifi infrastructure to send your images to your Smartphone and even to the cloud. So your Smartphone already is a working Dual card feature.
Can it back up as you are shooting, or do you need to initiate the transfer manually every time?
It does actually does back-up as you’re shooting. But it looks like I’ve mistaken a few things, since it’s very limited.
I tested on my A6000 just now, and here’s what I found:
-Smartphone back-up disables the Continuous Shooting mode, so you’re limited to 1 shot at a time.
-Live View on the smartphone can’t initiate Optic Zoom, it only does digital Zoom (Not a problem if you are Prime lens user, but still…)
-Smartphone back-up doesn’t work for RAW
-Smartphone back-up doesn’t work for Video
-Requires latest firmware, which is really slow and cumbersome to download and update.
Oh well. I liked the idea, but there is a lot of improvements to be made.
my camera is in airplane mode since I switched it on for the first time… I would also like the dual card; configurable as a Raid cluster or one card for raw, one for jpg. not having dual cards isn’t kind of a showstopper, but a nice to have feature
http://petapixel.com/2015/04/28/wedding-photographer-ordered-to-pay-couple-8800-after-losing-photos/ – what happens when you lose photos… it remains a question if not using camera with instant image backup (second card or wireless storage) can be classified as negligence in the court 😉
Do Sony cameras even have ability to continuously back up RAWs to a mobile phone or portable WiFi enabled HDD, without any user intervention? And is it practical for real event or wedding shoot, due to speed and battery consumption?
Nop, backing up in background, as you shoot, is not possible with A7x series cameras. Images to transfer can only be chosen manually, either on the camera or connected smarthone/tablet, and transfer of RAW is not possible, according to user manual, RAWs are converted to JPEG when transfering via wifi.
So even if battery life and transfer speed and stability was not an issue – it simply cannot be done because of camera firmware.
The synchronize to smartphone app synchronizes your pictures to your smartphone when you switch off your camera. It does not transfer RAW, but in an emergency it is better to have a high quality JPG picture then nothing. It is a good workaround for people who want to have a dual card but that dual card is not there…
do you honestly think you can back up wirelessly 50 to 100 GB of images in real time over your smartphone in the field?
I do. I’ve been doing more paid work. If I move away from A mount I need the cheap insurance. If someone wants to chime in on how reliable these cards are and that they never fail- sure. I’m just not willing to take that risk for a wedding when I’m starting to get off the ground.
I’m normally light on my equipment, but for events it’s nothing to rap off hundreds of shots in both RAW and JPEG. Risk avoidance is my main concern. I want immediate back up as well. Canon, Nikon, Pentax- have dual card slot offerings- multiple. Yet, Sony only has the A99. It makes zero sense. It says- we’re not taking this seriously IMO.
I’m with you on this. It amazes me how often photographers do not take data redundancy seriously. What they fail to realize is that the best cards and drives can fail (actually they WILL fail, it’s only a matter of when), and that lost images of a single shoot can potentially derail their entire career because of getting sued or destroying reputation.
Exactly. I know I’m often sarcastic on here, but I’m dead serious about the card slot issue. I’d even say that in real life it’s more important than the lossy RAW file debacle. I just don’t get Sony’s reasoning. That is, unless they plan on charging top dollar for a future A9 pro model with this feature.
Agreed. If they don’t want to put that on every model fine, but it seems to me it should be on more than just the A99. I mean, they position the A77 as basically a professional level APS-C camera, so why not give it dual card slots, too? And with SD cards being the default format now, adding a second slot doesn’t even have to hardly take up any space.
A much largerr risk is that your camera gets stolen with the dual cards in it, then that a card fails. So an automatic copy to an other device (like the cloud or your smartphone might be a better option then a dual card slot. In this way both, theft and bad card are secured. think about that…
In theory you are correct, but:
1) Sony does not provide usable way to do that (wifi backup) on A7x, or any other Alpha camera;
2) Getting your camera with dual cards stolen means you left it unattended, with both cards in it, which is quite silly;
3) If it was attended, then it was a robbery, and they are likely to also take your external storage, be it a phone, or drive in your bag;
4) With already limited battery life of live view cameras, is WiFi backup really viable?
5) With the low reliability and speed of current camera WiFi implementations, is WiFi backup really viable?
We should have both but WiFi implementation of Sony is not as flawless as it could’ve been. Eye-Fi solutions are much better in terms of speed as you don’t need to turn your camera off or use an in camera app to transfer the photos while you shoot.
I just had a PNY card fail on me after a shoot a couple weekends ago. I always carry my Thinkpad 8 (soon to be a Surface 3) with me on shoots, so I can backup to its internal memory and microSD card as I fill cards or at the end of the shoot, whichever comes first. But, what if the card failed during the shoot? That’s why it’s important to have real-time backups, especially if you use larger cards.
Hopefully Sony will implement this eventually in their high end mirrorless cameras. I’ll be waiting, money in hand. 😉
Shooting very high volume full-time, I can attest that dual cards has saved me image loss a number of times. Once a card a failed, another time someone else overwrote the card, another time it was easier to re-import from the second card than hunt down the primary, etc.
I spotted a high volume guy at a gig using an A-mount the other day (shocker:), very fast camera, and much quieter than my A7’s I thought.
I’ve had a SD card fly out of a camera bounce three times and go into 30m of water with around 500 images. dual card slots are nice.
and no lossy compression – I think i’ll start saving in case Sony gets this right the first time.
I’ve also had SD cards go bad – it happens.
Sony should just add a second slot in the optional battery grip. It’s not that hard…
GENIUS
A grip like the Olympus E1 had that takes a different BIGGER grip sized battery than the one in the body would be GENIUS too.
And a third in the Lens. Batis can already display card information on the oled.
1. The SD card door on the A7R requires a rethink, it opens to easily
2. The door on the grip if you utilize the strap lug on it opens to easily
3. The eyepiece cover comes off to easily.
4. The eyepiece diopter moves to easily
5. There needs to be a hard button to turn off the LCD screen (as per Fuji)
Those are my top five peeves with the A7R.
Look at A7ii – most of these are revised there
Fantastic, I’ve not seen or used one yet. I’d be very interested in trying the new in-body stabilization with the FE 1.8/55 for motion, that lens has such a lovely look wide-open and is so easy to hit focus with the EVF or the centerpoint A/F.
Cut some black electrical tape (3mm) and cover the left 1/3rd of the eye sensor above the EVF. That’ll reduce the distance to switch it to EVF greatly. Mine only switches to EVF if something is closer than one cm.
I’ve got more electrical tape on my A7’s than I care to mention. The stuff I have around the eyepiece came adrift the other day, made a mess on the rubber and I walked around the gig with what looked like a shiner for a couple of hours……….LOL
It’s only when one uses this kit extensively that you figure out how very close Sony are to having a great camera, but its the little things letting them down right now, not the stuff that people like to harp on about like RAW compression.
Sony’s audio accessories are absolutely first rate, love the new XLR adaptor, that’s why I’m sticking with them until they get the details locked down!!!!
I’ve also had a few occasions lately where that little sensor wouldn’t recognize my eye. Both occasions it was raining. Got me to thinking I’d got some water on that sensor. Of course I was busy……….no time to futz, just used the B cam for that shot, but next shot/minute it was fine, some times they’re just fussy!
Presumably the a7rII will use the same body as the a7II.
Unless its an A9, who knows yet.
I’ve seen a couple of SD card failures, that’ll be devastating if you’re a working photographer.
Use wifi to backup ?? I am sure you never use it 😛
Please show me how to send the RAW + JPG, or Video to the smartphone at real time?
How many image you can shoot before the tiny battery die??
It’s very limited as I noted further down in the discussion. But I think it’s a step in the right direction.
It should be a nice complement to a Dual card if sony improves it down the line.
There is no problem…
LR6 has some more features than LR4 – I think I will upgrade for a few bucks.
And just for fun I can write a python script that uses AdobeCameraRAW.Latest to convert my SD-card-ARWs into DNGs 🙂
Lossless RAW via PlayMemories app?
On a mission.
About time. Personally I don’t care about the lossy compression because I’ve never seen it cause damage in my images. But if helps to shut up the internet experts I really welcome it.
I actually have noticed it…in areas where the local dynamic range is extreme (sunlit object against deep shadow, say). It results in some local pixelation and posterization, but the overall effect is otherwise negligible except to pixel-peepers. Still, lossless compression should be the rule, so I hope it gets addressed in the new camera(s).
That’s an exageration, 50 MPX on FF it’s the same that 24 MPX on APS-C, same pixel per mm radio.
So, if a FF lens go well on an APS-C like the A77, 77ii, D7100, D7200, A6000, etc…; will go well on 50 MPX FF cameras
I agree, that depending on technique there can be a difference of two stops between two guys.
As loyal Sony user I actually don’t care what “my friends” Canon guy said.
However, as the guy shall be Canon biased he should have belittled the topic but instead he did the opposite. So I took it with some belief.
All I would believe is that he has bad technique and/or doesn’t understand maths, so (like many of the people here) he’s ridiculously overestimated how much of an “issue” 50mp would be.
well.. yes I have:
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Carl-Zeiss/Zeiss-Carl-Zeiss-Distagon-T-STAR-Otus-55mm-F14-ZF2-Nikon-mounted-on-Nikon-D810__963
Sony sensor, Zeiss Otus. A7R will not perform better…. and since 33<36 it will not fully resolve that sensor. So, please, check what you are writing before writing it
All that test says is that the Otus and D810 is able to resolve 33 P-MPix. Unfortunately no lens or sensor combo is perfect, so you are unlikely to get a perfect figure of 36 P-MPix with any lens.
That test does not say anything about the ability of the Otus to resolve higher resolution sensors. The Otus doesn’t suddenly stop getting sharper on sensors above 33MP.
but that has be proven once there is a camera available with more than 36 MPix. I was asked for an evidence and that is the best you can get.
The Otus probably won’t stop at 33MPix, but why are you so confident that it may not stop at 35? Or 38? Far below the capabilities of an 50 MPix sensor…
We will have to wait and see what happens… that’s all….
Lens sharpness doesn’t suddenly stop at a defined figure, but no, obviously I can’t tell you how far the Otus can go. I was simply responding to your definitive claim that the Otus can’t resolve a 36mp sensor.
Watch this:
tony talks about what sharpness can be expected with a 50mp Canon with different lenses. He takes his information from DxOmark test of APS-C cameras that have about the same pixel densitiy than a 50mp FF.
His forcasts are mathematic scale-ups to bigger FF sensor size and therefore I think his forcasts are quite precise.
(Otus was predicted to have 47mp !!!!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww6QGpryrLM
Otus can get 22mp from 24mp sensor (Approx. 92%)
and 33mp from 36mp sensor (Approx. 92%)
So, it likely get 45~46mp from 50mp sensor.
Therefore, your claim “Otus cannot resolve 36mp sensor” is incorrect.
You are simply….wrong. It’s not linear. Or would you say that the Otus is able to resolve 920 MPix on an 1000 MPix Sensor?? Or that a lens able to deliver 6MPix on 12MPix sensor will also perform with 50% on a 50MPix Sensor???? Think again!
And my comment is correct in that way, that no real-world (build example) was a Lena to deliver a 36 MPix equivalent picture to date….
Yes, it is not linear.
But if you check the score they got from the 24 Mp APSC sensor,
you can have the idea how many resolution it can resolve in a 50mp Full Frame senor. It is likely get over 45mp from 50mp sensor.
Therefore, your claim “Otus cannot resolve 36mp sensor” is incorrect.
You are again… wrong. APS-C uses the sweet spot of a FF lens. So an extrapolation from APS C result to FF is not valid
You stated as fact, “a (sic) Otus cannot fully resolve that sensor”, and went on to quote DxOMark as “credible evidence”. However, by the metric you quoted, no lens can fully resolve any sensor, therefore your statement has no merit. Saying “we will have to wait and see” is completely at odds with your previous claim. It seems like you have no idea what you’re even trying to say.
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of an armchair pixel counter quoting random figures and not having a clue about what they’re talking about. It also illustrates very well why DxOMark’s “effective MP” score is a horrible metric.
Check that you *understand* what you are writing before writing it. You have no idea what the figures you just quoted actually mean.
And as a counter-argument (not that one is necessary), please see http://www.lenscore.org/ – to quote their article on the Otus 85mm ZF.2: “Maximum resolving power is 107MP at an aperture of f/4.1”. You may debate the details of their measurement methods, but I think it’s safe to say 107>36.
And silent shutter, pleeeeaaase…. It´s possible with the A7s, apparently.
A7sII: IBIS, 1million ISO, hopping better AF too.
Odd to hear you say still “just” 36 MP…
Yes, you will have it in A7s II but not in A7r II.
Which is one reason why I called for Backside illuminated photosites…..sigh…..!
I hope that will be a native DNG support which is then be supported on the other A7-serie cameras.
Native DNG like the Samsung NX1 PLS.
It’s so awesome in post production because the color never shift!
I really hope the new RAW engine thing is true and they make it available via firmware update for the A7ii and A77ii…
I doubt the FW update. Sony want to sell more cameras so they prefer to give us incentives to buy them i.e. old camera has compressed RAW and not so good video. New camera – great RAW and great video. Both can possibly be changed solely wiht FW but then why buy new camera when the only change is Image Stabilisation?
I’m not as doubtful about it, Sony has been doing better lately at providing functional updates to their cameras via FW updates – adding features by software seems to be part of their current mindset, like X-AVC and better low light performance on A77ii. Chances are if the A7rII runs a BionzX processor they may be able to port the new RAW engine to current-model cameras as long as the hardware is compatible/capable, and such an update would be very welcome on my A7ii and A77ii.
Don’t forget it is $ony, 😛
You will get the new firmware in the new model.
Please see December FW update for A77ii. Sony doesn’t leave everyone in the dust.
14 or 16 bit lossless raw please 😀
Have you used the D750? Its the only Nikon I’ve used and its live view far better than the A7 or the 5d3. I only use AF to initially set the shot and fine tune in magnified view, its no worse than the A7 or A7s I previously owned since they both have terrible AF.
Please, Lord, just give it a quiet shutter. That’s all I ask.
THIS.
If A6000 is 2 months away I would assume not all specs are known at this point. Perhaps the FW is at Beta stage now and even some HW changes may happen. So even rumours from people testing the camera may be very wrong.
We saw this with A7 initial release. Initial comments from testers like DPReview and Steve Huff about camera performance were vastly inaccurate. Indeed the camera shipped with 1.1 FW addressing the late feedback and is much better than initial reviews indicated.
SR 3: The Sony A7III will come out before the A99II does.
More like SR4.5 xD
Looks like a meaningful rumor. Expect 14.5 EV of DR and better noise performance…
The cost of SD cards is the least of the issues. That you would have to buy a whole other set in any case does add extra expense that wouldn’t otherwise be necessary, but you neatly side-stepped my main point.
You can pretend there is no elephant in the room, but dealing with ever more and ever larger files is becoming a major issue.
To suggest an equivalent, imagine you have a library in which you need to store books. Your delivery of books increases in number every week and the books get much bigger too. You find that you can buy more buildings cheaply, together with more shelving.
However, when you get them you have to re-organise your existing books, while taking in the ever increasing delivery, yet you only have the same strength, speed, and no-one to help you.
Add to that a small fire breaks out every now and then, which you have to put out, but as the buildings, shelves and books increase, so do the number of fires! And you only have the same strength, speed, and no help…
Like I said, the problems are real and the advantages are small, too small to be worth it, and that doesn’t include the other problems mentioned in the first post.
I might be funny, but you are blinkered.
I would not say so, in fact they are very logical at their schemes of extracting maximum money for minimum of value.
…”still just 36Mpix” – still just?! Is someone really asking for more?…