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Tamron patent for three new Sony FE lenses: Compact 28mm, 50mm and 60mm f/2.8 primes!

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Mirrorlessrumors spotted a new Tamron patented describing the lens design of three new Full Frame lenses for the Sony E-mount system. The 28mm f/2.8, 50mm f/2.8 and 60mm f/2.8 lens. All do features in lens stabilization, 6 group and 7 lens design and a close focusing distance of 30cm.

At last we could get some affordable FE lenses. While those may not be very fast they would certainly be a nice light lens trio to carry in your bag. Just for fun let us know…

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Original Japanese Patent via Egami.

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  1. I would buy a 50mm/f1.8 (or f2) right away, if it was cheap enough (150 Euros or so). Something like the canon “Nifty Fifty”. But f/2.8? I think I don’t need such a prime lens right now…

      1. The added weight and cost is not worth it just to cater to people with outdated technology. Laptops used to have CD/DVD drives and S-Video outputs. Those old and heavy options became redundant with newer technology, so the manufacturers removed them. Same thing with stabilization. IBIS made lens stabilization redundant. After all, the main reason for buying into mirrorless is size and weight savings.

          1. That isn’t a given, especially is Sony prioritise a camera being small.

            Even if all future cameras have IBIS, there are benefits to lens OSS in conjunction with IBIS, as MdB mentioned before.

    1. What’s to say Sony won’t release a smaller FF A5 model without IBIS?

      The A7 models have grown in size and weight, which is fine, but I still use my A7 with the 35/2.8, as it’s a very light general walkaround combo.

      I hope Sony continues with smaller bodies options, as the demand is no doubt there.

    2. OSS is additive to IBIS and more effective. IBIS is good when lenses don’t have OSS. Also for video OSS is also still more effective.

    3. 1. OSS doesn’t dramatically increase the size and weight of the lens.
      2. These are f/2.8, IS will help in low light with the slower aperture
      3. lens IS will benefit IBIS, as you will have dual IS which is more effective.

  2. Great news! I hope these lenses, especially the 28/2.8, will be small despite the stabilization. Otherwise the Sony 28/2.0 would be a better choice. But either way, these lenses mean more choices for us and this is always good. I just wondering why is Sigma so quiet at the FE front.

  3. I dont get it. When all the current Sony FE products have IBIS, why even include the VC aspect? I think just about EVERYONE would rather have them be f/2 or lower. Instead they’ve bunged a VC unit inside… huh?! I have an A7R so it doesn’t have IBIS, but I’d still rather it not have VC to keep the cost lower or have a faster aperture lens!

  4. Well, I find that maybe the 50 and 60 are too close on focal length and the 28 really will have to be very small because the 28 2.0 is really small at 200g weight. The 50 and 60 could be good for street photography to keep the system small. But again, the 55 1.8 is not a very big lens (althought expensive).

    I’d find more appealing right now an 85, 135 or something wider (around 21-24mm) even it had to be f. 2.8 or even 4.

      1. Yeah, I prefered the size of the 35 2.8 and that’s why I came with it in top of the 28mm and I would even like to have some lens cap in the mount. But I can understand that such lenses aren’t a priority in a high end product like FF mount

    1. It should have been *insert your desired focal length*.

      But I have to say, 50mm and 60mm, that’s a strange one. But then patents don’t mean both lenses will see the light of day.

  5. I don’t see a point in both the 50 and 60mm lenses, although the VC and close focus distance are tempting even though I’ve the Zeiss 55.
    The 60 is probably made with APS-C in mind.

        1. lol it’s a Leica projection lens, it’s more “adding” a mount than “converting”. The lens screws on to a Leica projector but other than that it has no mechanical interface.

  6. Depends on the price and if the a6000 replacement has stabilizer or not. If it does, then I don’t really see myself getting these over the cheap sigma lenses. Now if only Sony would get off their damn asses an announce the A6100 (or whatever it will be named)….

    Also, since these are FE lenses and all of the new FE cameras are stabilized, it might be better to skip the IS to keep size, price and weight down

  7. None of the above – more than happy with the 55/1.8 and 35/2.8. 28mm isn’t my favourite focal length, but I’d have bought a 24/2.8…

    1. 28mm isn’t that exciting to me either. I might consider the 28/2.8 if it is much cheaper than the Sony 28/2 and performs well, but yes, a 24mm would have been much more interesting.

      1. Agreed, and it seems odd to go against the only affordable Sony prime, which is also faster. That extra 4mm can make some far more interesting pictures.

  8. While I had physics classes in college I am not really intimately familiar with optics. Are these patents that get mentioned here really innovative conceptually or are they just patenting every new lens because it has a few different parameters and combination of elements and coatings?

  9. It says compact. But how compact. A compact 28 mm would be great. 150Grams and around 40cm long. But i would rather prefer a 42mm compact lens

  10. I don’t understand why they don’t design a 45mm f1.8 as they did for DSLRs, but then in E-mount. It can be made smaller, and it is a more ideal focal length compared to 50 and 60mm. Not only that, it is further apart from 55mm.

    1. Because an f/1.8 would be bigger and more expensive? It’s obvious these lenses have their priority as size. Also Tamron doesn’t sell any 55mm FE lens, that’s Sony.

      1. It will be slightly bigger, but it can be made smaller compared to a DSLR design. I get that people want smaller lenses, and I do too. But the Tamron 45mm f1.8 is for me a near ideal FL and aperture combination that I hoped that Tamron would also make something just like that for E-mount.

        I never said Tamron was selling a 55mm lens, but it is something to take into consideration for Tamron.

  11. I think the point of the 60mm design is the fact that it is reduced to a 6/6 design, not 6/7 as the 50mm. (The author seem to miss this..?)
    But it’s interesting to see how the same basic design principle can be implemented in three different formulas!

      1. Yeah, definitely a great thing for the whole system to get some affordable lenses as well.. Not everyone wants to pay for the Zeiss badged lenses. But I’d love to see these third party lens makers to try to fill other (than budget) holes in the lineup also.

        1. Agreed. A few f1.8/f2 lower cost primes definitely won’t hurt.

          I wouldn’t mind a few Sigma A series lenses for E mount if they cost around the same as their DSLR equivalents. 🙂

  12. An f/2.8 lens with IS is still going to be smaller than an f/2 lens. VC won’t change the cost. Sony DSLR lenses lose VC and they still charge the same price. The VC technology already exists from the APS-C 18-200 emount lens, it will take little effort to implement it. Also Sony bodies with IBIS take advantage of super effective dual IS with IS in the lens, so having IS is a definite benefit. I guess if you don’t want IS that badly, feel free to spend more and buy the Zeiss 35/2.8.

  13. Finally lenses designed for the landscape shooter! Not everyone is happy to have to lug around an f/1.4 lens just because they are the pro ones… (and in this regard kudos to Sony, that already gave us quite a few excellent & compact sized lenses!)

  14. Probably because the same people who buy current Sony FE want f/1.4 primes and people who buy cheap old A7 (which has no IBIS) want small cheap primes, not zei$$ ones.

  15. Well, they’d have to be pretty cheap. They are releasing the 35 and 45 1.8’s this month. They’re already getting rav reviews. At 599.00 I consider them be very affordable. In addition, they come with a six year warranty and are quite small.

    These would have to be 400 or less. More like 300.00 or less if you ask me.

  16. I prefer to just carry one proper 24-70 f/2.8 zoom. Canons mkii version I’m using is my most used lens and as sharp as any prime at f/2.8

    1. I prefer to eat banans than carry one proper 24-70 f/2.8 zoom. Natural bananas I’m eating is the most tastiest and more edible than any f/2.8 zoom.

  17. I don’ t quite undestand why they are making both a 50mm AND a 60mm. It seems like an awfully similar focal length.

  18. So, do these really need to exist? I hear you on the cost
    but really Tamron has gotten to be right up there with that on newer released
    lenses. I own the 18-200mm Tamron and bought it used but at the time it was
    like $20 cheaper than the Sony. All the reviews recommended getting the Sony
    but hey who says I listen to reviews :-S Right now at B&H there is $9
    difference between them except the Sony does not feel like there is grit in the
    zoom barrel nor is it inconsistent on the pressure you need to apply to zoom.

    Second thought, why would you buy the 28mm Tamron when you
    can buy the little Sony 28 f/2 for $448? That is an awesome little lens! Do you
    really think the Tamron will be better or cheaper? Now about the 50mm, seriously
    buy the Sony 55mm f/1.8 as that lens is AWSOME! Every FE mount owner should buy
    this lens I never leave it at home it is always in the bag and it is the
    sharpest lens I have ever seen. As far as the 60mm, why? Again get the 55mm in
    my opinion… I guess I just see what these are going to bring to the party but I
    will be prepared to be amazed.

    1. The Sony 28/2 and 55/1.8 while good, are not compact. They are quite long and no where near pancake size.

      These Tamrons are more likely to compete with the more compact Sony 35/2.8, which is priced at $700. If they are similar in size or even smaller, Tamron can easily price these under $700 and with VR as a bonus. There’s definitely a room for these lenses to exist.

      1. Yeah, that seems very plausible. These lenses will be very small and cheap. Not entirely my cup of tea, but I do know there are people who wants them that way. Sure, I would like small and cheap lenses too, but that normally involves too many compromises in build, speed and performance.

        1. If you go egami page, you’ll see more complete images (Rumors admins clipped them) and backfocus distances.

          or you can go to japanese site

          Patent & Utility Model Number Search

          and read whole patents

    2. Why can’t the Tamron be better? Tamron has recently put out some very sharp lenses on F mount and EF mount, I’d love to see them do the same on FE.

      Plus, this 28/2.8 is promising ultra compactness and VR, neither of which the Sony offers and some of us still have non-ibis bodies.

  19. I undertand that they are making the easier and the one that could sell much easier, but some telephoto primes wouldn’t be bad and they would be the only option…
    It’s starting to get a bit crowded in the normal range.

  20. But the same people who are demanding that are the same ones that will be flaming Tamron cuz the lens are not sharp like the expensive ones.

  21. I took a dive into the patent and found lengths of lenses, here are distances from anterior surface to E-mount flange (that is, after subtracting 18 mm):
    26, 31 and 33 mm respectively (add a few mm for filter).
    Note that Sigma 60/2.8 DN is LONGER (56 mm) than that the 60 in the patent
    They might even be attractive for aps-c users.

  22. We want SIGMA Art lenses with FE mount.
    Tamron is like Kangol. Good to have it in your wardrobe but you can’t wear it cuz it’s too old and ugly.

    1. I wonder what advantages there would be to designing- say- a 35 or 50mm F4. If that would provide them the ability to give it unheard of sharpness….. any optical advantage there and three stops down count me in.

  23. I know. But Voigtlander is manuel focus. I could live with manuell focus on 15 and 21mm. But on 28mm. I need autofocus

  24. I’d take a 135mm 3.5 from Tamron. Laugh all you want but it be pretty dang small and plenty of speed for most applications. I’d imagine when Sony/Zeiss release their 135 it’ll be a 2.8.

  25. I don’t quite get what you’re saying but…there are no “zooms”, there’s a single slow and expensive normal zoom.
    I’m hesitant to get the 90/2.8 only because I’d have to buy a separate AF adapter ring just for that lens, all in all it’s a bad deal. The Biogon doesn’t work with digital, I’m eyeing that ZM 35/1.4 (I’ll need the sensor stack modification), and I don’t need another normal lens, so the only one I’ll potentially need is the 90/2.8, because it’s so compact.

  26. anybody else sick of all these mirrorless lenses with slow-ass apertures? (F2.8 isn’t fast for a prime)

    If you wanna keep size down stick to APS-C, full frame mirrorless has such potential given they’re normally more accurate than DSLRs when focussing at F1.2/F1.4 etc, and yet they dont have any fast native lenses to support it…

    if you want 1.2 or 1.4 you’re stuck with DSLRs which are notorious for their inaccuracies (unless you adapt to A7R II but it’s still non-native)

    1. The only thing that means bigger size for a lens, is the autofocus system. Its no problem making quality glass at f.1,1 at 50mm lens. A lens that is under 6 cm long. But its missing the autofocus system

    2. Your post makes no sense. There are plenty of fast FE primes: 25/2, 28/2, 35/1.4, 55/1.8 and 85/1.8. However there is only 1 compact FE prime: 35/2.8. Sony definitely needs more of the latter, and Tamron is able to fill this hole.

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