Got a couple of feedbacks from trusted source about the next CES (January 6) and CP+ (February 12) events. They do confirm new camcorder(s) are going to be announced at CES in Las Vegas while new Cameras and Lenses will be announced at CP+ show in Yokohama.
While I am yet not sure which camera will be announced at CP+ (A7000 or A9 or both?) the FE lenses that Sony will release are known. The rumored price info is (source SAR article with VBL):
– 28mm f/2.0 G should cost 499 Euro (February shipment)
– 35mm f/1.4 Zeiss should cost 1399 Euro (March shipment)
– 90mm f/2.8 G macro should cost 999 Euro (March shipment)
– 24-240mm f/3.5-6.4 should cost 1099 Euro (March shipment)
– both converters should cost 229 Euro each (March shipment)
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I’m sure we’re all happy to see some more lenses coming.
Regarding the 28mm f2, does anyone know how the converters effect the aperture value? With the 16mm fisheye converter, is it still an f2 lens? Is it now somehow faster? Slower? How much so. Really curious to see if this combo is a better option than any dedicated fisheye out there…
Yes, correct, the fish eye converter makes it 16mm f/2 and the super wide converter makes it a 21mm f/2.
You can only do this when going wider.
That would be amazing. To my knowledge, there is no full frame f/2 fisheye lens available from anyone. This might be a very interesting combo.
Yeah, cool, photographing unsuspecting people in dark places 😀 I wish I had money for it.
Through I am sure image quality of combo would be mediocre.
This also raises question of field curvature…
Only? Why, there are front mounted teleconverters too which don’t change f-stop too.
Sony we don’t want shitty x10 f6.4 zoom lenses, we want a good 300mm f4 oss fixed focal lens.
lenses for sony cameras are damn expensive….
1000 euro for a 90mm macro? try again….
Really? What are the prices of the Canikon ones?
Nikon 105 macro $899
70-200 f4 Nikon $1396 Sony $1498
16-35 f4 Nikon $1256 Sony $1348
No 24-70 f4 on the Nikon side for price comparison
Also, While both have a 1 year warranty, Nikon grants an additional 5 years for free if registering within 20 days, while Sony wants to sell you an extended warranty.
We were talking about macro lenses.
Although, they are priced similarly, why the whining?
Not whining, just addressing your question “What are the priced of the Canikon ones?” Lead off with a macro, then added the others where there was a direct match for general reference. Sony is consistently higher and estimating that 90 macro to come in around $999 as they usually just change the currency sign from Euro to $ despite the conversion difference which would b around $1300. That Nikon is probably the reference standard for the midrange macro focal length.
Mirrorless lenses are generally more expensive, just look at smaller sensors – Sony, Fuji, Olympus. At roughly 10% more, these actually look reasonable.
22mm F2.0 with great sharpness – $99.
And it’s a 1:1 macro?
No, it’s a Goodwill special. 🙂
The only good thing about the EOS-M.
Do this experiment: go to flickr, search for “eos m” and then for “a6000”. Then see which pictures do you like most from the search results. I think you will be surprised. I won’t 🙂
What does that have to see with anything? Did ti anyway, both look ok. I prefer the rendering of the Sony 🙂
Gotta love my LA-EA 4 + Tamron SP 70-300 (now stabilized) combo (for 400€ that is)
I would really be surprised if they all ship on time.
Lol…they didn’t even announce an exact ship date. Just being negative so you can complain? They’ve been pretty good about being on time so far.
No, I just think it’s a big chunk for them to chew at one time. I very much hope they ship them all and they did specify a shipment month on the slides. I just think they won’t quite make that schedule and very much hope that I am wrong.
If it were a Sigma lens announcement I would agree with you, Sony has been really good at keeping their delivery promises.
Sony wants to push the FE lens line in 2015. If they release a FF VG Handycam with the A7s sensor? Wow…that would be a very bold move…especially if they give it SLOG2.
Sony Pro Department will NOT be happy that a Handycam like this exists. They will need to justify it by doing some strong feature crippling to seperate it from new Pro 4k models.
Why, if Sony target for e-mount is normal user, not professional, they haven`t a cheap lenses ?
Like SAL: 35 1.8 / 50 1.8 85 2.8
Because they own the FF mirrorless market and can charge whatever they want. Until another manufacturer joins the market they will continue to do so. Sony is very arrogant.
That explains why the camera bodies are so expensive. Not.
Well they want you to replace your body whenever they come out with a new one, which is about every 3months. So, expensive lenses and throwaway bodies.
Troll
CI Sales is a paid troll. If he isn’t he’s limited to the same three or four talking points, either way. Ignore him!
Throwaway plastic bodies like the D600/D610/D750?
CI Sales likes throw away plastic bodies, they’re easier to dominate and don’t say “NO, GO AWAY” LOL
Nikon is most guilty of that, but it’s unintentional. Takes Nikon three tries to get it right. D600-610-750, D800,D800E,D810. All within a one year period.
If you count February 2012 to September 2014 as one year.
All those cameras were in production during a 12 month period, the D600 sputtered (oil) along for a year then changed twice in a 12 month period. And they are all the same cheap plastic bodies with crappy shutter. At least when Sony updates bodies there is significant improvements not just fixing screw ups.
Looking at the specs online, the A7 and D750 are made from the same materials. And it sounds like the A7 shutter flops about a bit too!
All you do is read specs on the internet, it makes your brain flop about too much.
Cmon- every camera is made from plastic nowadays.
The FE line isn’t for the low end or cheapskates. Suck it up or go APSC.
If the lenses were lower quality the complaint would be; Sony will never be acceptable to the pros until they produce professional lenses like Canon and Nikon.
but in APSC aren`t cheap lens … compared to a mount
Normal user would just use the Kit lens.
The 28 is no G lens.
Too many lenses.
More lenses than bodies.
Sony should add sensor tilt capability, eliminating need for TS lenses and making it easy
And make adjustments available through menu and control wheels.
Why? There is touchscreen. You pick three points simultaneously and AF/tilt systems makes it so all three are in focus. No more complex paper calculations!
And they are too expensive.
And why are they more expensive than crappy 30 year old Canon/Nikon lenses of the same focal length.
Too many trolls.
28/2 price is acceptable. Wait awhile for the price drops, still slightly overpriced. And why can’t it be a normal Sony instead of a G? When will we start seeing AFFORDABLE FE lenses?
35/1.4… No one is going to pay $1399 for that tank. Half the size and drop the price please.
And $1099EUR for a superzoom? Haha, oh wow. Get real Sony.
Hurry up Tamron and Sigma, bring on the affordable FE lenses. There is a huge market to be had here.
(more than) Half the size and price is the FE 35/2.8 (or Loxia 35/2).
You had one, why the whining?
Seriously, you guys don’t know what you want…
There is an AF version of the Loxia? Where??
You have 3 choices :
– 1 small AF f/2.8
– 1 small MF f/2
– 1 big AF f/1.4
But you want a small AF F/1.4, it’s technically (nearly) impossible 🙂
If you remove OSS and SSM, yes it’s possible, but you will whine because it’s noisy…
It’s possible. Sony needs to introduce BSI sensor with wide angular response and stop making that retrofocus crap.
Yeah, to have a small lens, they need to develop a new sensor… Come on!!
Yes. I’ve been playing with optical design software for some time. Very small lenses all tend to have exit pupil close to sensor which current sensors don’t like therefore such designs are avoided.
Also, compare Sony’s crappy SEL24F18 and Canon’s EF-M 22/2 STM
They are not for FF sensors…
Do you think just FF magically necessitates huge lenses? Scale up SEL24 by 50% and you get a huge lens. Scale up Canon 22/2 by 60% and you still have a small lens.
And SSM? What is the size of this module? I don’t think it’s that small. Just look at the 16-35 or 24-70 and 35/1.4 (SSM inside?) : they are big.
35/1.4 is large because it’s retrofocus crap which isn’t required for FE lenses (if Canon can, why can’t Sony?). focusing motors can only influence lens diameter, not length.
These large, retrofocus lenses are necessary with FE, because, the mount is both small and very close to the sensor, creating a bottleneck. Sure, Leica mount, Nikon F, etc, are also small mounts, but they’re further from the sensor. If Sony wants to build lenses wider than 50mm and faster than f2 for FE mount, the lenses have to be nearly as large as their DSLR counterparts with adapters, unless some new sensor tech, like organic sensors, comes along and behaves better with incident light angles.
The good news is that, while the fast FE lenses may rival their DSLR counterparts in size, the lack of a mirror box allows for more cutting edge designs with outstanding performance, like the 55/1.8. I’m sure the huge 35/1.4 will be a great lens. Unfortunately for me, though, I got into mirrorless because of the size reduction over my A900 system, so I don’t have interest in these big lenses.
You don’t understand. It’s the reverse. Narrow mount means imagespace-telecentric lenses are impossible, but it doesn’t restrict lenses with near exit pupil location in any way.
Maybe you’re misunderstanding me. Here is my point, in a nutshell:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1147292/21#10953644
and
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1239073/2&year=2013#11791188
The links don’t prove a point that retrofocus lenses are necessary with FE. If anything, narrow mount would make lens designers to design non-retrofocus (smaller) lenses.
And BTW, while it’s true additional vignetting is bad, it occurs in Canons, because of mirror box, so E-mount is actually better in that regard
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/34160/clipped-bokeh-circles-at-max-aperture-with-wide-aperture-short-focal-length-len
This is the crap that people believe in. SSM has nothing to do with lens length. SSM is a circular mechanism build around the lens usually at the point where focusing lens element is – so if anything it will only make diameter slightly larger, nothing to do with length. So why Canon can do something that Sony should have done years ago? Who is mirrorless KING Sony or Canon after all? I still believe it’s Sony, so it’s time for Sony to cut the crap and start making proper lenses with modern design instead of retrofocuse crap. Just ask yourself will this lens will ever be used for A-mount? If not why in the world Sony made it retrofocuse? And the answer is: Sony just copied it from old design – they didn’t’ bother to even change it. Damn it.
Nolivfr, just shut up and being a good Sony goyim shill. Sony can and needs to make smaller lenses full stop. The size of the 35/1.4 is a joke.
Yeah, the size of the Sigma 35/1.4 is a joke also!! And the Canon 35/1.4 L, Nikon 35/1.4G, Zeiss Distagon T* 35/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4…
doesn’t canon need a smaller cercle of light on sensor?
You’re missing the point. The point was that (not relative to sensor size) 2 different lens build approaches like SEL24F18 and EF-M 22/2 STM – produce 2 completely different sizes: one is huge (for a 24mm APS-C lens) and the other is a wait for it….. a pancake lens! Very sharp too BTW. Or yes, I forgot and it’s VERY CHEAP too – like $150 more or less. Now take same design approach and do a FE lenses – make small lenses not a huge monsters.
Size of lens is relative to sensor size. Your SEL24F18 will be 2 times bigger (almost), add to that OSS and/or SSM. You will end up with a big lens.
Yes, I know that 2×2=4. Try scaling it up for both lenses and see what you’ll get for FF. FE vs EF-M will still maintain huge difference in size: huge lens vs pancake. It’s ultimately in the design, not in the sensor size. That was the point.
Sony does not tailor to what YOU want, sorry it’s painful to hear that.
If you want cheap, you shouldn’t have got into the A7x cameras, period.
The truth is Sony does this anyway – they do introduce new sensors and bodies almost every 6 months. So no big deal. Contrary they do lenses very rarely, even more rarely with modern new design (non retrofocus). So it makes a perfect sense to do a sensor better suited for smaller lenses – after all it’s compactness they are after right? Just read what Sony was preaching for many years since NEX and now for FE lenses – it’s all about f4 due to compactness and blah…blah….blah. So yeah, a new sensor is the way to go then if they really want to d ocompact new design lenses finally.
Sensors generally have a multi year life cycle, the A7II 24 megapixel sensor was first introduced in the A99 & D600 over two years ago. The 36 megapixel sensor in the A7r & D800 series is also two years old. The newest full frame sensor is the A7s 12 megapixel. Bodys change but for the most part sensors stay the same.
typo – bodies change.
They certainly do not introduce new sensors and cameras every 6 months, unless you are not distinguishing between model levels. Actually, Sony releases roughly as many bodies as any other comparable company.
They can make a compact cheap 35/2 FE, they just choose not to. Look at the 35/1.8 SAM DT. Cheap fast and compact. It can already cover almost FF, just need to up it to f/2 and use the same build as the SEL5018 and SEL3518 and there you go. But of course Sony won’t do this for a few years and it needs to milk everything as much as possible.
Here you go : 35/1.8 SAM DT, ie not for FF.
The SAM DT is hardly a small lens and even less so when you add the two more centimetres required for it to work on mirrorless.
Please, enough with the stupid ‘compactness’.
If FE is going to replace A, we need big wide-aperture lenses.
Completely agree here. The big tele market is not a huge margin maker like everyone thinks. Sony will wait as long as possible before pursuing 300mm f/2.8 type lenses. But we need them if they want their gear on the NCAA and NFL football sidelines. Otherwise, they are not going to be taken too seriously by the professional sports crowd and thus won’t get used on the sideline in any major capacity.
la-ea4 then you can use the a mount stuff. problem solved.
The LE-AE4 is a piece of junk with 1980’s quality autofocus. It is no professional gear by any mean and is an unergonomic, hack solution. Problem is not solved.
Obviously you never used it, but you stayed at the Holiday Inn.
Why? This is not about taking pics, it’s about ticking checkboxes and making nerdies happy. In this light, LE-ABC77 is fantastic!
LA-EA4 is a lousy stop-gap solution that solves nothing. It’s a temporary fix for existing users at best.
Why not f/0.9 then? There are already f/1.4 primes in A-mount, and now E-mount cameras will have IBIS too, eliminating one of main arguments against using A on E bodies. f/0.9 would at least be new…
Now that would be a game changer. Time to unleash the .95 FF primes please. AF and sharp wide open, weather sealed, etc. Do something different, unexpected- that gives customers a reason to buy.
It’s ironic, but if Sony did with lenses same thing it did with mirrorless camera bodies – then today we should have had already a full lineup of primes with AF, OSS, F 0.75 with size of a RX100 lens. So yeah, it’s finally time to become a LENS company.
I thought there’re already .95 lenses for E-Mount?
Aside from the optically most simple lens to create (a 50 mm) F 0.95 lenses would be absolutely massive and uber heavy. So much so that a 35 would probably make a 70-200 f2.8 look like a toy. The extra stop and a bit is really not necessary once you are down to 1.4.
You talk about 1.4’s as if “its all been done before” every lens ever produced has a unique character. Speed is only one small aspect of a lens. Same with focal length. The real gains are to be had in how it renders.
The 28mm f/2 is priced competitively. I didn’t mind the price and will own one. I am still scratching my head at the 55mm f/1.8 price.
The 55mm f1.8 is a bargain when you consider its performance – even at launch price.
I don’t disagree but dang, can we not have a $500 option?
I’m not sure where it has been announced that the 28mm is actually a G lens. It wasn’t in the presentation and the early photos of the lens don’t show a G marking. Sony went out of their way to announce that the 90mm was a G.
That superzoom could be quite good if they have put some work into it, knowing that Canon has their 28-300L and thats not bad either for being such a wide range lens. That+ A7s could be a killer couple.
You are wrong, I am totally wating on the 35 f1.4. If this is similar to the non-AF version Zeis recently released it is on par in quality with the Leica Summilux 35. It is a 1.5 stops faster then the 28 f2 you seem so keen on which means it lets in 3 times the light. Price for a lens of that calibre is reasonable and size, in general, can be necessary for fast primes unless you are interested in compromising other optical qualities. I am not. That said I would Love to see sigma bring their 35 art to the FE line up.
“Affordable FE lenses” is an oxymoron. One buys all their overpriced Zeiss and G lenses, get a few cheap throwaway bodies to go with each one, and Sony laughs all the way to the bank!
Bought your Nikon yet, or are you waiting for mom to buy it when you graduate?
Welcome to the bipolar comment section, whatever sony presents will be exactly the opposite of what people want. Let me guess, now sony needs to make more bodies? Cheaper lenses? Even wider apertures? Less wide apertures? different colors?
Never in the history of photography have so many complained so much to so few.
Never in history HULK more SMASH!
NikonEliteHULK – you’re such a cute little HULK fgt 🙂 I bet your cute little crappy hands take really crappy HULK photos of your HULK mom. She’s not such a cute HULKESS, she ugly and shoots Canon 5D classik with kit lens.
Nailed it!
That s why so many Sony fgts1
So you come here to cruise?
maybe he likes fried green tomato’s?
Now that Sony are merging their compact system and enthusiast/pro system into one, they obviously have to produce everything in E-Mount. Big, small, wide aperture, narrow aperture, cheap, expensive, wide, tele.
Canon 50mm L f/1.2 – $1,539 USD
Canon 50mm f/1.4 – $399 USD
Canon 50mm f/1.8 – $125 USD
Sony 55mm f/1.8 – $998 USD
The two Canon 50mm lenses are junk by comparison to the Sony 55, apples to oranges.
That being said, if the Sony 55mm were a couple hundred dollars cheaper it would sell like hotcakes.
It does sell like hotcakes…………..
I would argue they are NOT junk by comparison. That is a silly thing to say.
Even the 50/1.2 is nothing to shout about.
Not sharp across the frame, even when stopped down, and horrible swirly bokeh. It’s an overrated lens. It’s fast, that’s about it.
“Sharp” is for beginners, demanding photographers have different priorities. Check out the rubbish bokeh of the Sony, for example, or its aggressive CA, or its build quality.
Tell that to anyone who does landscape.
And yeah, you clearly have never used the 55/1.8. The bokeh is streets ahead of the 50/1.2 – that is unless you have a fetish for distracting swirly bokeh.
The 50L is a bokeh lens, it just falls down IF you also require a technical lens (which is more often than not).
The trouble is the bokeh isn’t actually very attractive – busy and swirly.
f/1.2 will get you shallow DOF, but not much else.
Rubbish comment & rubbish analysis……………..
Spoken like a true clueless amateur photographer.
Says the guy hiding behind an anonymous username.
It seems quite a few here agree with me, and so do some review sites.
Perhaps you can tell me why the 50/1.2 is so good, seeing as you’re obviously a highly experienced professional.
Because that gormless “lotus eater” nick is not anonymous? Can’t you see how dumb you come across?
Well I could post my real name and you would still have no idea who I was.
By anonymous, I mean a guest account with no post history. It’s very easy to hide behind that and engage in name calling – who’s really the gormless one?
Are you going to tell me why the Canon 50/1.2 is so good?
It’s a good portrait lens, but its lacking as a technical 50.
And you would either be a fanboy or dead wrong, there is no comparison.
Say what you want but as someone who makes a living at this I can tell you I am very happy with all three of those lenses. Not a fan boy but someone who has a professional opinion.
Many are happy, the 50L is a good lens, but its not the FE 55.
“junk” is the word which is silly. The Sony is better and should be due to the price compared to the 1.4 and 1.8, no doubt about it. But in real life you can make good photos with those lenses, so it’s not junk.
Actually, there are 4, plus a 45mm TS and a 40mm pancake… And I wonder where you get your “junk” from. Any pictures of your own we can see? Or just the usual sheep to sheep hearsay?
My friend uses Canon 50 1.4 and I know how terrible it is. Not sharp, a lot of CA
Sure, it is too bad for your art, but it is enough for normal photogs… Sigh.
No on the 45 TSE, its a nice lens, better than the Canon & Nikon 50’s but not in the same league as the FE 55. The 40 is a good pancake, but really………….
Sony could do with a super cheap poor build 50/1.8 for $125.
No money in it. To many adapter options.
Are you serious? Native AF Lens for $125 would out sell everything. 90% of new users would pick this over clunky MF adapter options for that price.
125 dollar lens…new! Any idea what has to happen to make a lens that cheap and maintain any profit?
I would be happy in the $500-$750 range.
Never happen – they want to sell expensive lenses so that you’ll never let go of them, and then keep upselling you bodies.
55 is better from all of them
Lol, just compare the speed and price of a lens and be done with it.
None of those Canon 50’s come anywhere near the 55, nothing from Nikon either. Try Sigma or Otus.
You can also mount Zeiss on Canon, or adapt Nikon F, Olympus OM, Contax… The good OVF also makes it easy to focus manually.
Zeiss alone has 3 excellent 50mm lenses – I have two.
Again, no reason to buy a Sony. What a surprise 🙂 🙂 🙂
wow, not a single A-Mount lens, good job sony.
Nor any aps-c emount lenses.
Why? Don’t you have enough? If E-mount had so many as A-mount I wouldn’t complain at all and be gone shooting.
A-Mount? What’s that 😛
Good job on those who cried about no A-Mount lens, and fail to notice newly released A-mount premium trio
16-35/2.8 ZA II
24-70/2.8 ZA II
70-300/4-5.6 G II
24-240 is pretty freaking sweet I have to say. I don’t know about that price, but I can kind of dig it if the quality is stellar. I’m not a zoom guy, but this would be a lazy way out for those days…nah, I’d still grab a prime. Still, this is promising.
Changed my mind…I think I would want to own this thing. 24-240 folks…24-240!
That 28/2 G looks freekin’ sweeeeet! And the converters (at least the 21) make it extra useful. I might just have to pick me up a used A7 since everyone seems to be dumping them for the A7II.
If the 28 mm is not top of the art. Then a wide angel converter on top of this, has to be a waste of money. I rather have a dedicated super wide angel lens instead of a wide angel converter. The combination of the converter and the 28 mm is to big. So why switch to A7 series when a a99, and a wide angel lens, is smaller than this combination
What makes you think the 28/2 won’t be “top of the art”? It is a modern lens – it will be good. Now for the caffeine fueled internet pixel junkies not really interested in real world results – only test charts – yeah, it may not be “top of the art”. But for real people it will be just fine. And the 21mm converter – could be a gimmick – maybe not – we will see.
Another 35mm? I think it’s missing a 50mm as well…. *tongue in cheek*
Do 35mm sell like hotcakes? :S
Sniff… No mention of an RX10 update…
really?!! 1099 for a travel zoom with no G/Z coating?!
Well, you’re travelling with a ff camera, of course it will be expensive… Nikon’s 28-300 is 900 euro (was 1000, but the price dropped). If the quality is good, these two will be comparable.
Looks promising. If the quality/IQ is there, this could be my first travel/super zoom.
Hoping for a high-end RX update for CP+…
Hopefully the new camera is the a7000 or both… We had too much FE bodies already.
There is never too much!!! 🙂
Nice to see that new lenses are coming. But i miss a 24 or 35 mm pancake lens
There is already a 35mm pancake, we right now have 3 options: f. 2.8, f. 2 and f. 1.4
But we are still missing the f 4.5 oz Pancake Berger. Now that would be sweet, covered in hot maple syrup with a side of bacon covered french fries, yum
the a7s can get you 2+ step advantage of ISO in low ligth
with the 24-240 its like having an equivalent superzoom F2-4
forgetting DoF, that a7s+24-240 looks pretty sweet
i will check also that converters, must had better IQ than aps-c versions and with faster aperture could very well worth it
For the huge A7s pixels it doesn’t even need to be sharp.
oh finally Sony is now cranking out these FE lenses!! Really shows their focus on the e-mount system
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24-f/2, 50-f/2, 85-f/2, 135-f/2. It’s not that hard sony.
++++ all with OSS
Loxia 50/2 exists already.
24-70 f/2.8, 70-200 f/2.8 first of all
just one word where the hell is a 85 mm 2.0, 1.8 , 1.4 prime lense just an ordinary lense in every camera company nice to have A7. A7II, As, A7R but not a ordinary portrait prime lense ??
they learned <3 more lenses finally.
I’m a bit disappointed by the 24-280 price 🙁 I hope it will be a bit cheaper for those who choose Sony over Leica to get decent prices on lenses !!
I don’t think such a lens will be marketed towards potential Leica switchers.
Sure, but it was a general remark about all the Sony FE lenses… even if the 55 f/1.8 that I own is a very nice lens…but VERY expensive for a 1.8 only ! (I also have a manual Minolta 50mm f/1.4 that I paid 60 euros on eBay and can give better images thant the sony…but it’s not autofocus !).
The minolta lenses are an amazing bargain. I love the 100-200mm f4.5 lens, sure it’s no speed demon but it is tiny versus a 70-200. The 70-210/4 is a great lens indoors or in flare controlled environments. The small 35-70 lens is pretty good too and good for when I’m not in the mood to lug a 24-70.
I’m actually glad to see it priced a little higher than most. I haven’t really been happy with the IQ I’ve seen from many travel zooms. I’m hoping the higher price of this one will translate to a better-than-average travel zoom IQ.
Well, If you’re right (and I hope you will be) then I would probably buy it !
The 28mm lens is a curious choice. Personally, I think it would have been wiser to have made it 21mm natively.
Likely a lens targeted for consumers at that price.
Anything wider than a 24mm probably isn’t suitable for many as it’s more difficult to shoot and/or may require some work in post??
Most likely this was technically the most suitable focal length that would allow them to make the two wider adapters and cover 3 focal lengths 28mm, 21mm and 16mm with one shot.
Maybe this was the most compact 3 focal length solution.
https://rumors.limboint.dev/wp-content/uploads-legacy/sonyalpharumors/2014/09/sony-fe-28mm-prime-.jpg
Agree. If they wanted to do the wide angle converter. Make the lens 21mm with just the one fisheye converter. They 28mm is kind of stuck in no mans land. If the lens is good I will buy the 21mm converter and just leave it on.
28mm is nice with 55 fe. 35 and 55 are too near but 28 is just right wider and it’s a good alternative, and it’s f2 that’s a lot better especially in terms of bokeh. Just crop a little bit and you’ve a 35 for street and wide enough for panoramas. 21 many time is a little bit difficult for composition: too much things in the frame.
I have the new Tamron has 28-300mm for Canon 6D. It’s probably the best quality super zoom available. I pack that combo with the 35 f/2 IS for light travel. Blasphemy for some on FF, but a lot of fun. I think Sony has some shares in Tamron, so maybe some design is shared. Who knows…
So how does A7 II w/ 24-240 + 35 f/1.4 as travel kit sound as a goal for 2015 🙂
i would really like to know the FE35 and macro focusing ring still same as other E-mount lenses? Not constant focus controlling like A-mount lenses/cine lenses? cause at the moment all the e-mount lenses focus ring focus is sucks for pulling focus in video, the focus changing speed is different depend on how hard/fast u turn the ring. The only E-mount lenses that going to have constant focus pulling is just the FE cine lens.
@Admin no news about the A99 mkII ?
Latest news was in Prototype stage. Sounds like a late 2015 release. 🙁
28 is G or not???
Probably an overpriced Zeiss.
??? sony 28 is an overpriced Zeiss???
Sony keep churning out new stuff like it’s the smartphone market. Here is a revolutionary idea: take your time and come out with a proper camera instead, we have been missing one since the A900. And then people wonder why photographers buy C & N…
Shut up, dummy.
Clever and mature, you even prove my point: these are toys for geeks, nothing more.
And you’re a clueless moron with your dinosaur 7DM2 that got $$hit update after… 5years? A900? 1999 called, wants its paperweight back. Go away.
7DM2 has 1DX’s top-notch AF system. All A7-II got is OSPDAF and no lenses. Sony has a long way to go catching up to Canon (which they could have done already in A-Mount).
What is “no lens”?
Speaking for myself – I do respect fan boys of other brands.
Although such trash talking is strange to my nervs…
They don’t even offer most basic reportage lenses such as a 24-70 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8.
Obviously reportage can’t be done at f/4.
It can also be done with a mobile phone, so let’s all shoot XPeria?
I don’t see the point of convincing myself I don’t actually need everything that Sony doesn’t offer. Especially given they have all that in A-Mount. Why do we have do “make do” with f/4 now.
+1
If we have to “make do” with f/4 now, then there is no difference between FF at f/4 and APSc at f2.8 in every way except for doubling the price for FF. A 1 stop gain on APSc lens negates 1 stop loss in ISO on sensor. Sizes are comparable as well.
And what is with pricing f/4s and the like, as if they are f/2.8s?
E-Mount 28-70/3.5-5.6 is almost the same price as A-Mount 28-75.2.8.
Then A-Mount Zeiss 24-70/2.8 is about 1/3 more than E-Mount 24-70/4 and wipes the floor with it at every arpeture and at every focal length, in addition to being 1 stop faster at every focal lenth. Sure, the E-Mount one is lighter, but does that justify the price for an f/4 lens?
On a personal note – why in the heck would I switch from an A65 with 16-50 f/2.8 to an A7II with 28-70 f/4?? I could do all the same at f/2.8 and ISO 800 as A7 at f/4 ISO 1600. Even noise is going to be roughly the same. The only thing that will not be the same is price.
A7M2 + 24-70/4 is smaller and lighter than A65 + 16-50/2.8
True. M43 has been trying to ignore that sort of equivalence, in the face of physics, and it is dying.
Your “basic reportage lens”-specification is vintage.
With camera specs of 2004 I would absolutely agree with you, but not nowadays.
I admit that the 2470FE has some quality issues, but the 70200FE is the best tele zoom I have ever used.
Stan below summed it up perfectly.
…assuming AF is your #1 priority, sure, 7DM2 is a beast. For many, MANY photogs AF is not that important. For me personally it’s a luxury, not an absolute necessity (I shoot portraiture), and I rely on DMF or MF most of the time anyway. A77M2 is more than fast for me whenever I shoot acton.
So, while for some folks Sony has a ton of “catching up” to do, for many others, myself included, Sony is way ahead of anything else out there. I’ve learned to shoot with focus peaking, focus mag, EVF, preview, etc.
As to the glass… I personally have all A-mount CZ zooms and most primes. All are superb and class leading in many FLs. Between A99 and A77M2 I probably have over $25-30K in gear. Not bragging, please don’t take it this way, but honestly… how many people buy more than just a few lenses? How many does anyone REALLY need? I use 85 and 135 for 90% of my shooting. Sure there a some gaps here and there, especially in the specialized department, but your generalized argument about the lack of glass is invalid.
Lastly (on a 2 hour boring conference call, so I’ve got time, lol) – just got the A7II… pretty much can adopt ANY glass out there and get IS. Does anyone else have this? Nope.
A77-II and A-Mount lenses are amazing, but Sony is killing off this system and trying to replace it with E-Mounts. And E-Mounts are nowhere near this level, both bodies and lenses.
We were definitely not all created equal… Sorry for your genes.
Come again once you learned some photography, and once you have a more traditional upbringing, if at all possible.
Sorry, truth hurts…
I love this escalated approach from Sony! They ARE releasing some nice proper cameras. And they are leaving Canon and Nikon tech in the dust!
However, they haven’t so far released anything that can compete with 5D3 and D810 (with 5D4 coming soon).
Compete in the areas of motion capture maybe? Especially in the areas of motion capture and the other 50% AUDIO, they are intact leaving Nikon behind. Do some basic research here!
Or the D750, which has won the top awards over all those others.
They bring the D750 to fill the D600/D610 fiasco.
So they learned and created a camera that wins awards. I call it success.
It’s funny how the FBs of Canikon are repeating that A99 is if at all competitor to the low end FF 6D and/or D610.
I’ve been a fan of Sony since 2008, but I’m disappointed with what they did: abandoned the SLT system when it was almost there and focused solely on E-Mount without providing any proper replacement. Doesn’t make me a Canikon FB, OVFs still suck.
I am arguing against, because you sound like just being disappointed about Sony’s strategies.
Ok, I now understand that many people do not accept A99 as an A900 successor, but it is – at least their evolution of the DSLR to SLT.
And taking this into account I doubt that you would accept any new A mount camera as a worthy successor of the good old workhorse A900 because any new A mount will neither have OVF nor CF support.
And -the A99 was releases in 2012, so it is just 2 years old. Leaving their “flagship” untouched for two years for me is no indication of abandoning A mount.
It’s not evolution, is transition. To me, it is involution. To the marketing folks who ckked it big way, it is evolution. To many of those who actually used it, it is degeneration and ground for a system change.
I think you are overrating the topic a little bit. And degeneration is too hard. The A99 is capable of delivering fantastic IQ when proper lenses are attached. It has almost everything onboard what an advanced enthusiast needs.
I (no commercial professional) started FF with the A900 and at the time of the release of the A99 I owned except for the Planar 50/1.4 all ZA and most G lenses.
Are you seriously thinking I (and probably similar equipped other advanced users) assumed at any moment to abandone my System because of some (for my style) minor issues with the new (evo, invo, or wtf ever) body?
It depends how minor those issues are. Some issues are more minor than others 🙂 I really cannot stand EVFs, myself.
Oh man get over it. Sony will not produce another OVF camera anymore – my thoughts. I enjoy the benefits of the EVF even though sometimes the OVF of my KonicaMinolta D7D was better.
But life is about compromises.
Sony have the Canikon people crazy these days. Hahaha!!!!
True, A99 is actually inferior. Ever use done? I have…
I sold all my canon gear (5D3, 70-200 2.8 II, etc.) and came over to sony. As a working wedding photographer, especially with the A7II there is nothing that I miss (Especially the size and weight) about the 5D3
Good for you. Wedding is AFAIK more posed photography than reportage though.
He is some keyboard expert, just another fauxtographer…
I use both and would not rely on the A7ii in a wedding alone, though: battery power, speed (in low light AF speed is not very good, overall response seems not very fast),only one SD-card,changing AF-points (much slower than on D810 or D4),… But we use it for portraits with the amazing 135/1.8 where I found no equal with AF at Nikon or Canon. Very nice travel camera, too. 28/2 will be nice for _me_ + 55/1.8 which is a great lens, too.
What are you using instead of the 70-200 f/2.8?
I call your bluff. No pro would sell solid Canon gear for the horrible low-light AF performance of the A7. Either that or you are no “working wedding photographer”.
Sorry, either you are a liar or you are a fool. My money is on both concurrently.
Wow, release variable length
lensdildo for wobble mount. I know make you happy to put up your @nus. You are fgts of cameradom. Sony-Street-Day parade lel.Official Sony press photo of top management
Ching Chong Ching Chong Ching chong
Is this Nerdo with a friend?
Just what Sony needs: advice from a comment nerd who has no idea who is selling how much of what, unlike Sony who knows exactly what they are selling and where. You should really forward your genius insights to their R&D department.
Here is a link for you: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/Support/ and here you can apply for a job at Sony: http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/Careers/worldwide.html
You are a waste of space Nerdo. Your nick is apt tho, and the fat geek in the avatar is even better…
That is sweet, so clever to shout at people from behind the curtain.
Cannot hide behind mighty Churchill. You still a Sony fgt! You happy you can have wobbly super
zoomdildo up your @nus. Have fun, dirty fgt!Actually use a lot of Nikon primes on my Sony Alpha cameras. And yes I am Feeling Great Today, and no I don’t want to go out with you, have a nice day!
No, don’t go out, stay behind he curtain. I am glad it makes you feel great but we don’t want to know why or how.
“don’t go out, stay behind he curtain” If that made any sense it could have been a little bit funny. Be a good little trolly wolly click ‘edit” and try again dear.
haha ok you got me all I could hink was curtain lol
There is a picture of you below, check it out. It has the colours of the rainbow.
Tat’s sweet, and you photoshopped yourself in the frame as well, who am I to crush your dreams right?
I don’t want to know which curtain you are behind, keep it clean. Many queer folks here (LOL), I wonder why?
Who is this old pervo? Is it you Nerdo?
You don’t recognise Winston Churchill?
Exactly, an old pervo. The shame of England.
Your opinion is, that the A99 is no worthy successor of the A900 due to the EVF? Or the SLT configuration?
Oh, I wnat to have a “real successor” of the good old tube television. The Sony LCD TV crap is no real television…. 🙂
A99 is not a successor of A900, it’s just another camera of the same class. I can’t tell which is better, it depends on own preferences of the photographer. After comparison test I decided not to buy A99. It has some advantages over A900 – especially LV, but in terms of overall picture quality and ergonomics it isn’t better in my opinion. A99 EVF is disappointing in comparison with superb OVF of A900. AF and AE performance of A900 is excellent, so I don’t miss live view. Changed flash interface and missing CF slots of A99 mean that one need to change its excellent flashes and rapid fast cards into new ones… what for? So long live A900, btw it seems to be made of much better quality parts than newer Sony cameras.
Ok, agree to accept A99 as – let’s say evolution in the Sony range.
I still own both, and for my style and use cases I always preferred A99.
Yes the A900 has the brightest OVF ever built into a DSLR, but I wouldn’t rate the A99’s EVF disappointing.
A99 was no successor to A900, it was another camera in the same price class with inferior viewfinder and silly flash support. It also feels cheaper.
Sony not take time. R@pe ur @nus with new long zoom
lensdildo foe wobble mount. Hope you not enjoy, if yes, you are faggt.True, and the quality of the comments here screams shills and noobs. The former are the innovative marketing promoters (LOL) and the latter are the target market.
If someone has tried to install A77II on A77 ????? That is possible ?????
Sorry, i meant the firmware. Lol.
Still no.
You want molest small, innocent aps-c, you worse than fgt, you pdo. HULK hunt you and SMASH with elite Pentax MF!
No.
I heard that there is an adapter on the black market that will allow you to mount the two bodies together (facing each other). The issue is that if you hit the shutters at the exact same time it will cause photons to collide at such intensity that you will release the Higgs boson – there is a legal disclaimer with the adapter that it could end the universe.
Faggt
French and great green tomato?
Profoto just released high speed sync for the B1 ‘s ( only Canon Nikon ) was hoping they would have brought it to Sony as I am shooting with Canon and Sony ( a7r ) just another reason to keep investing in Canon and keep the Sony for holiday snaps and pictures of cats
That won’t matter once Sony releases a full frame camera with a global shutter.
Ya OK I can wait for that to happen .
I own both the a7s and the B1, they make a magnificent combination when shooting at night with the B1’s modeling light and modifiers.
Q: What do you call a homosexual photo company?
A: Lens fairy 😛
does the distagon 35/f1.4 has autofocus capabilities?
As Sony lens has @nus focus capabilities down 1:1 reproduction. Lel @ Sony fagits
No, and you don’t want to focus manually on a mirrorless. Of course you can try…
Are you suggesting that OVF is better for MF than EVF with peaking and zoom? Have you ever tried MF with modern EVF?
OVFs are head and shoulders better, you bet. You do need special focussing screens, but they are cheap (Canons go for 35 USD).
The zoom in the EVF helps, but only if you focus in the centre, otherwise it’s a pain to move around. At that point, you can also use a DSLR with live view and move the zoom around with the joystick.
I really see no added value in this mirrorless thing – yet.
35mm 1.4 1400 EUR? What is Zeiss smoking? The Sigma 35mm 1.4 is 750 EUR and is one of the (if not the) best 35mm primes on the market!
Sony should get off the high horse and realize not many will jump ships as long as their lens lineup is laughable, even if they have competitively priced bodies.
They are catching up at least, till today other manufacturers had lenses with 1 more stop in light gathering, Zeiss had 1 more stop in price. Now Zeiss has twice the light gathering and twice the price. Great….