DukeOfDutch (Click here) posted one more picture of the new A3000 (or ILC-3000) E-mount camera. And another source just told me that the camera has (UPDATE: has not a body stabilization) and metal mount. So now we know it costs 300 pounds (body only), has a new 20.1 Megapixel sensor, 100-16,000 ISO, 230K LCD and 1.44 Million dot EVF.
Sounds like a great little camera! The announcement could be made on Tuesday morning at around 5-6 am London time. Be sure to be online on SAR at that time to follow the announcement live!
The Korean site Dicahub posted a size comparison between the A3000 and other cameras:
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Ok, that just killed every entry-model out there.
Ok, stabilization? now we’re talking.
If it has a better codec and Sony finally gets rid of that AVCHD $h1t, it would take on the G6 market easy.
Please Sony!, do decompress the video in ALL your cameras just a bit more….GH3 more.
+1 ! +1 ! +1 !
I agree.
Sony should update the codec and compression devices.
XAVC – 10 bit – 4:2:2 – 75 Mbs (as GH3)
Less rolling shutter and moire!
Organic sensor ?
Weird ranting against AVCHD, as Panasonic G6 (and GH3) use AVCHD
While you would appear to be right (AVCHD is a format that the GH3 does use for output) you are wrong in reading my suggestion. I suggested other than AVCHD, that the GH3 does support. MOV format ALL-Intra 72mbps.
Thats what I want, at least.
+1
Mov 72Mbps ALL-Intra !!!!! minimum !!!!
XAVC or ProRes (4:2:2 & 10bit) …. a dream !
It’s not the codec that makes the video bad on Sony cameras, see the footage from a stock GH2, G6 or even the GH3 using the AVCHD setting, there’s even Sony’s own FS100.
AVCHD is perfectly capable of impressive results, the FS100 manages to EASILY best the 5dmk III for video quality with it’s 24mb avchd codec versus the 5d’s 98mbit codec!
A lot of it depends what happens before the video get’s encoded.
From EOSHD here’s a 100% crop at iso 1600 with the shadows lifted, the AVCHD video from the sony is cleaner, sharper and has more shadow information despite the much lower bitrate.
Usable* shadow detail I mean.
True. AVCHD is good enough for the target market. A little improvement with the cost of gigantic file size is not good for average users. In fact Sony already has a solution for this – buy our professional camcorders.
Do you remember how many folks have said that NEX will never have IBIS?
It’s not NEX.
Though I’d be surprised if the FF nex doesn’t have IS.
I remember Andrea said NEX-9 naming was dropped.. Maybe it will be called ILC-9000 instead?
Apart from having IS, it doesn’t seem to be higher-end than the nex-7. It feels like an experiment to gauge interest in mirrorless SLR and possibly eventually fusing the a and e mount lines in the mid to long term future.
About the same that said this about Panasonic?
Those people could always come back saying “oh, but this isn’t an NEX camera”. E mount yes, but as far as Sony’s naming scheme goes, it looks like this is being clumped in with the A mount cameras perhaps.
Although, wasn’t it rumored that the next 7, or for sure the upcoming FF NEX will have IBS so you still have them beat there 😉
And strictly speaking, this new camera isn’t a NEX at all, it’s an ILC, according to the rumor.
So now we have a NEX range and possibly an ILC range coming up, both using E-mount lenses.
And E-mount camcorder and ENG cameras.
Dude, it’s a NEX camera.
No, it’s an e-mount camera.
NEX are those sleek cameras without a traditional UI and without IBIS.
I wouldn’t call NEX video cameras sleek…
Alphaguy: his point is that the video cameras are NOT NEX cameras. They are either VG or FS cameras. They just happen to share the same mount. It does seem that Sony sees their camera lines in this way.
What people said was that Nex-5/7 style body is incapable of IBIS due to size limitation.
Technology is always improving, what wasn’t possible yesterday is tomorrow’s cutting edge technology.
Mostly the conversation was not about the body size it was about the e-mount standard, because most of the people asking for IBIS at that point said they would be happy to trade a slightly larger body for IBIS.
For most people NEX means NEX-5 slim body, not the fat NEX-VG900. Try fit it into NEX-5, I think even Sony’s engineers will have a headache..
That 230k LCD will not help. Does it have the new Bionz processing engine?
Who knows if low res VF handles lag and smearing better.
oh, I was replying too fast.. hahahaha.
Are you serious?! AND IBS?? For roughly $300, the features already mentioned made this camera a high value in my opinion. And now that we’re hearing it will also have IBS, a feature many of us NEX users have been wishing for from practically day 1, I may have to jump ship on my current 5n for this new body style. I’ll hold out for any possible 5 or 7 models, but this little dslr styled e mount camera seems to be my ideal setup. Now, if only Sony would introduce some high quality and fast-ish telephotos I’d be set. Where is that long rumored 85mm btw? I’d love a 135mm (or equivalent) prime lens, but maybe I’d have to look to a mount for something like that.
Admin, any news on that lens or the recently rumored premium 55-150 telephoto zoom I think it was? Do you think they will be announced this year? Thanks!
IBIS? Sold.
New a58 owners are gonna be pissed.
AF will still be better on SLT’s. You can’t have everything.
Why would we ?
If this will have a vertical grip and uses NP-FM500H battery then it might have some interest for A58 owners but I doubt that very much.
Lol. Not at all. Why would they? It’s not a competition for it.
Every old gadget owner will be pissed when the new one comes out.
Has IBIS, ok, fine. But is there ANY HINT at all of REALLY faster AF ?!? This camera mimicks DSLR shape, cant it stand to its promise regarding performance ?!? Don’t you think buyers buying this over a Rebel for instance would expect DSLR AF speed ?? Since it’s a new sensor we can dream Sony has finally cracked the NEX AF riddle to get at least to m4/3 AF-S performance, but I find it very scary no promotion has been made in this sense so far ?? They heavily promoted the 6’s PDAF (that brough nearly no real life improvement) so the fact not a word has been said about AF on this cam is highly scary.
Well, if it was about DSLR AF speed, nobody would buy Panasonc G cameras. And it’s still unknown whether this camera has some fast AF trick or not, since new information is coming every day.
AF-S on G6 is faster than on a Rebel. It’s just tracking that is bad on mirrorless.
AF-S on current generation m4/3 is as good and more accurate that entry level DSLRs. Has been for two years !
AF on Nex cameras is very fast and accurate if you aren’t tracking about AF tracking. AF tracking on Olumpus and Panasonic cameras sux as_s for moving subjects. You are are being hypocrite.
Did anyone note how many M4/3 trolls are active on SAR?
m4/3 troll ? Ah ah, that’s funny, I’ve been a very dedicated and nearly exclusive NEX shooter for over a year (other camera is a Nikon DSLR that gets nearly no use). No NEX AF is NOT “very fast”, it’s just decent, hardly more. I’m not being a hypocrite, but describing NEX AF as “very fast” sure makes you sound like a fool…
I can honestly say my Panasonic G1 focuses faster than my NEX-5n, I can’t speak for the newer NEX models the 5 and 5n are nothing to write home about.
No it isn’t. AF on mirrorless is crap. It appears that some here don’t need a proper AF system and that’s fine, but don’t keep saying it is any good in comparison to dSLR.
you really need to know that there are some levels between great and crap (your current logic is “if it aint great its crap!!”
nex AF is good ,very good (but not great )
What is harder to shoot than a kid in a swing?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/artistwithlight/8931739635
it’s m43, but I assure you, my NEX focusing is actually better. Also, does your DSLR have face detect? Focusing on people is way faster than DSLR, and no need to change focus points when changing from horizontal to vertical position. I have used DSLR’s for 10 years and am fully aware of their strengths and weaknesses, lets take the pepsi challenge.
AF on mirrorless sucks? Tell that to Samsung with their hybrid CFAF/PDAF. Tried it on a NX300 in Best Buy a couple of weeks ago, when I happened to be in a store for something else. It was FAST! I’m waiting for the rumored NX30. 🙂
70D can’t even focus properly like GF6 does in light lol
Why people focus so on AF 🙂 I use compact and mirroless camera and never found AF too slow. Ok, for tracking subject DSLR works better, but with contrast AF there no problem of back/front focus. IQ is far more important than AF and i wonder how this new 20mpx sensor performs, and if Sony improve their jpeg engine.
Wow, it looks better and better 🙂
When will we find out that it has an innovative, new on-sensor auto-focus system ? 🙂
Does this use NEX battery and menu or Alpha battery and menu?
This camera uses the NP-FW50 battery common to the NEX line, but it will share the refreshed menu system same as the forthcoming NEX-5T.
OMG!!!
IBIS ??? !!!
Are we sure ? Is there official spec?
This really changes the whole Nex strategy…
And put the E mount ias a very high potential system!
For sure a game changer…
Fast OSPDF will follow sooner or later!
Then… Waiting for my Nex7x… Wahoooo !!!!
They are sooooo about to repeat history with the Maxxum X000 original series. Remember in the early 90’s, Minolta had #1 sales in North America ahead even of both Canon/Nikon… Then the law suits started and cheeky plastic Vectis ruined them.
Stay on course with this X000, support the customers and Sony might just take the crown. Good restart Sony.
Better have Alpha menu.
Don’t forget Canon’s “Be a REBEL” ad-campaign with Agassi from the late 80s/early90s.
In the US they are still coasting on the mindshare captured by these ads.
Well this is Sony.
If they get sued they will counter sue back until the bury the suer in hell.
Look what is happening at Red…. which sued Sony on the base of some BS.
ILC-9000 now.
+1 it will be full frame
Oh! If this has IBIS it may be mine after all!!! My CANON FD 500f4.5 L and 300f2.8 L will like it 🙂
On A-mount IBIS does not work without lens ^_^. In other word your lens and it focus length must be recognized by camera, so you need chip on lens or adapter. But I hope it is not big problem on E-mount rather A-mount.
Pls correct me if I was wrong.
Actually, it does work without recognizing the lens (and FL), it just defaults to a certain FL (50mm IIRC). But I agree that it would be nice if we could enter the FL by manually in such cases. For A mount cameras, that wasn’t as much as an issue as with the E mount which indirectly accepts so much more glass from other mounts and older glass.
Yeah but that was A-Mount – Sony is WELL aware that their NEX users like to use adapted lenses. Pentax and Olympus both let you program in the FL, I suspect Sony will do the same (though they have done worse odd things before).
If real having image stabilization, then i have a strong feeling that the small size body nex (nex3, 5, 6, 7) will not having image stabilization but the dslr shape nex model will having it.
They will not making image stabilization especially 17-40mm zeiss if future all nex having image stabilization in body. I think the full frame nex also will be in dslr shape, and maybe it just call as a9000 or a cheaper and smaller one call nex9.
This a3000 move from sony, might just let A-mount camera been drop anytime. Look like a3000= a3x series so next a5000, a6000? if sell very hot, then a7000 and a9000 then bomb byebye to A-mount camera. Everyone will just get nex dslr shape if the performance just like A-mount camera. Cause nex can use any lenses,all user can just make the switch without lenses problem and not forget about metabones for extra light benefit. if sony think of the long way, they really might drop the A-mount camera very soon if they success in this aXXXX nex series and their next A-mount camera still doesn’t sell more than this. They will just focus on nex mount camera.
i’ll wait the full frame announce first and see.
This looks like a really tight little cam. I have no prior experience with or investment in NEX or E-mount, but I am likely to pick up one of these guys just to see what the handling and shooting experience is like. I did own an A77 that I do miss.
I own a GH2, but its grip is on the small side, and the sensor is a bit meh by today’s standards.
Hopefully Sony is on its way to realizing a very compelling balance of still and video quality at a low price point.
My gripe about my GH2 is the CRAP build quality (especially for what was a fairly pricy bit of gear on launch) and the lack of IBIS.
This should in theory be better in every possible way.
Interesting.
I feel like the GH2 is built okay. I don’t like the undersized grip. If a company is going to do a mini-DSLR form factor, someone like me, with average-sized hands, shouldn’t find their pinky constantly sliding off the bottom of the grip.
The guy handling the ILC-3000 in the photo clearly has big hands and the grip seems just a hair small for him. Based on that I think the grip will fit my hand very well.
The other bummer about the GH2 is the monster shutter recoil. I guess Panasonic was trying to make it feel and sound substantial, but that just doesn’t work in a small, fairly light body like the GH2.
I’m finding it hard to believe that the price can be as low as $300 with all the features listed so far, even if that is the body only price.
Well, we will soon see.
That’s my conflict now: Personally I totally dislike the form factor, but I’d love to have IBIS with my manual lenses. So I’ll better go for a NEX-5T since this might be the last model with this classic iconic NEX-5 form factor before I’ll switch to FullFrame-NEX one day.
Anyway, Sony marketing seems to have great fun gathering attention by heating up rumors shortly before relase date: leaking photos in Japan, specs in Austria and spotting a camera in the Netherlands…
… and this marketing is much cheaper than running ADs.
They do this in a very good way!
My guess, Sony will continue to produce NEX with the classic iconic NEX-5 form factor. The fate of A-mount is the one in question.
@andrea: I think that the comparison images are wrong.
I could not suspect this Caméra as Big as the A58
In the hands of the shooter… It looks very small !!!
That’s a big shooter. 😉
So…
High res (high enough) EVF – Check
E-Mount – Check
SLR style body for grip / comfort – Check
Low price – Check
IBIS – Check
NO SLT light robbing mirror – Check
Hotshoe / accs port – Check
Metal Mount – Check
Focus Peaking (given) – Check
Low Res LCD (damn) – Check
No WiFi or GPS to jack up the price and waste power – Check
Apart from maybe the LCD, this is what every whinger on here in the last two years has been telling Sony they need to release, or they will fail… Yet the whining continues 😛
If this launches at the price that is suggested, this camera is an absolute winner.
never found much use for lcds, +1 tho on your checklist……its pretty great and cheap. ticks all my boxes i think
You realize wi-fi & GPS can be turned off? Neither draw power when off, so not having it isn’t a feature (not that a $300 camera deserves to have them).
Hanging out to use this with Metabones EF Speedbooster with IBIS 🙂 Also makes the SB price easier to swallow – $900 for (near enough) full frame anyone?
Wow, that’s a good prospect.
Probably would not work well or at all. IBIS is based on known metrics, 24,28,35,50,85,135,etc. The speed booster doesn’t fall exactly on these lengths, 50mm is ~52mm/54mm. It would be hard for the camera to handle random or unusual lengths effectively. I would love to use this with my anamorphic lenses but I’m not holding my breath.
IBIS also makes those Sigma’s seem even more interesting.
Realistically the only reason I went with the SEL35F18 was the OSS and a little bit to do with the extra speed
IBIS makes this a great entry level camera.
Thr price and universal lens functionality allow anyone to use it.
I am still waiting for a higher end version as I am not looking for entry level st this time.
Use of a more advanced sensor in the higher level versions of both this or the nex line should convert many non sony users.
The final must have reason to compel non sony high end users to switch would be the inclusion of sensors in various models that do what no one elses can.
Differrent high end models should include
The worlds highest iso model.
The worlds best dynamic range model
IBIS makes this a great entry level camera.
Thr price and universal lens functionality allow anyone to use it.
I am still waiting for a higher end version as I am not looking for entry level st this time.
Use of a more advanced sensor in the higher level versions of both this or the nex line should convert many non sony users.
The final must have reason to compel non sony high end users to switch would be the inclusion of sensors in various models that do what no one elses can.
Differrent high end models should include
The worlds highest iso model.
The worlds best dynamic range model
Sacked organic sensor model.
And of course the world highest resolution model.
I really love the NEX form factor, but this camera is getting more and more enticing, esp. for its price. I had already stopped hoping that APS E-mount would get IBIS any time soon but man… hopefully they’ll bring the same features to NEX some day.
+1, esp the NEX FF
5-axis?
Sony has a killer product in its hands, which if handled properly can send Canikon scurrying for cover but then Sony has the uncanny ability to kill its own camera products because of its greed and crippling the product. So keep your fingers crossed and pray that Sony does not kill this product by crippling the features.
zigma
Let’s hope but I really doubt it. 5-axis is still far from being the standard and Sony doesn’t seem too keen to introduce the latest tech on this camera (as evidenced by a comparably old EVF and shitty LCD) which is quite understandable.
probably standard steadyshot from alpha series (2axis?)
Witam
Mnie martwi zakres ISO tylko 100-16000, czyli nie ma jakiegoś przełomowego postępu co do czujnika zastosowanego w A58 który szumi bardziej niż konkurencja !!! .Miałem nadzieje że będzie to czujnik o nowej konstrukcji do którego będzie musiała równać konkurencja !! .Wszystko okaże się po premierze być może Sony zaskoczy tak jak zaskoczył konkurencje Olympus swoim OM-D . W którym jest matryca Sony !!!
Bo to prawdopodobnie jest te sam sensor co w A58 w końcu to entry level. Ale nadzieja w tym, że wyeliminowano półprzepuszczalne lustro, które rozwalało obraz a Alfach (szum i detal – wystarczy porównać obrazek z A77 i z Nex-7)
clincher. IS and focus peaking and viewfinder. nice and grippy……… its vintage lens time. when is it out>?
The one shown in the picture already has a tag on it. Maybe soon.
Did I miss something? I thought it was rumored to sell for 300 pounds which is approximately $467 USD as of today. Still it looks like a great great camera for that price but don’t get your hopes up about the $300 price.
Am I the only one doubting the price of this thing? 300$ has to be without the kit zoom. Still if we suppose it’ll bethe same price as the nex3n. In many ways it’s better than the whole nex lineup. It makes the 3 and 5 look like crippled cameras and the 6 being at least twice the price for the same fundamental features. Either the new nex introduced this fall will be amazing, Sony is undercutting every camera on the market including its own.
Oh just wait until Hasselblad gets wind of this.
This is why I guess hasselblad was hiring a dslr engineer.
MUST have Alpha style menu and battery.
Who’s got the scoop on this?
Only low end about this camera is the external LCD screen which I dont care abot as I prefer previewing my pictures on my nex-7 EVF which beats any ext. lcd anyway…
Is it too much to ask for two rotating dials like the Nex-6 or 5R? Then this camera would my legacy digital back and Ill use the zeiss 24 on it due to the Ibis.
Last point…
Why A3000
And not E3000
???
Hopefully because Alpha menu and battery.
230k in 2013. whyyyy?
$300… That’s why.
make it 350USD and put a 960k LCD in?
Perhaps on the 5 or 6 series. Higher resolution with articulation. This is a good place for the 3 series. It will be a massive hit, and others will soon follow.
Big score if it has Alpha menu and battery. IF…
If we see an ILC-5000 and ILC-7000 I hope that they up the EVF resolutions as well. The 5000 should have an EVF in the 1.7-1.8 Mp range and the ILC-7000 should be in the 2.4-2.7 Mp range.
You assume there will be any 5 or 6 series. What equally well might not happen. Ever.
Actually, stateside it won’t be $300 per se. Following the price difference between listings in the UK and US, it’ll cost around $450-$500 for the A3000.
Example: 5R goes for around 500 GBP, but in the states it is $750 USD. The exchange rate converts 500 GBP to around $779 USD.
At the current exchange rate, 300 GBP is $467 USD. Although $300 USD is only 192 GBP. They won’t undercut themselves (and their RX100’s) to move an entry level NEX system.
As has been said before it is not 300 dollars. It will be 300 pounds. Which is around 500 dollars. People eh..
Oh OI thought I read €300, any $499 sounds a lot more likely if they want to make a profit.
Indeed, 300 pounds = 470 USD
£300 includes VAT, which is about 20%. So around $350-ish is not unreasonable.
I would be great if the small EVF is a low end trade off for high refresh rate and possibly even continuous refresh. IBIS and no moment of black as it processes shots would be extraordinary, even with low res EVF. And low res might allow the processing power for that continuous view. That would signal a really great line of cameras coming.
I know right? There must still be some cost savings to be had when switching from a 480K to a 230K LCD. Still, if anything should’ve been axed to keep costs low, the LCD screen is a good place to start for a camera with an EVF.
Maybe the nex 7x will come now under the ILC XXXX name.
i wonder if it’ll be an implementation of oly’s 5-axis ibis, yet.
i just hope by the time of the FF alphas, they give us all-i, or even better, adobe dng. i doubt the latter.
Let it just have IBIS… To open the road for the rest of Emount strategy…
Dont wonder if its 5 or 2 axis for a first try and entry level camera…
I really hope we Will not be dispointed by wrong expectations/rumors the day of announcement.
Many people on here were complaining about Sony’s strategy about making a cheap entry level camera for the avergage Joe to jump on board only to realize later the lenses were so expensive compared to DSLRs. If the rumors are true about the IBIS, I’m thinking Sony’s strategy is to also entice the enthusiasts who are currently hesitant about jumping ship to E mount. Does this make sense to anyone else besides me?
If the rumor about the IBS is correct…
I expect the next generation lenses without OSS (n few years) to be on the same price range as the A mount lenses…
IBIS is big news! Lots of old manual lenses and the legendary E-mount Sigmas profits by this. I think it’s the start in a new direction from Sony with getting into a market niche. Super compactness WITH (!!!) the lens! E-mount lenses are more compact than most other lenses for APS-C and when stabilisation is in-body, the lenses can be build even more compact. And this is the biggest weakness of DSLR’s and SLR too. It’s big and heavy. The best camera is useless when you doesn’t take it with you when you go out. I think this can be a hit! Think there will come many compact lenses without IS in future for E-mount. Otherwise it don’t make sense to me with the IBIS in A3000.
Big and heavy DSLR? Where you’ve been during last 4 years? They aren’t big and heavy anymore. ILC-3000 is in the size of any other entry-level DSLR. So stop complaining when you have no clue.
Now we’re talking!
I hope this is a good seller for sony and that we see the line expand to a pro level model!
ibis… big day for sigma with the new three lenses, rokinon ,and any other third party lenses manufacturing , Sony you need FAST dslr like AF to finish the game, the crown is yours.
I am certain that Sony know very well that they have to speed up focussing, and have been working on it for at least a couple of years.
But it is not an easy problem to solve.
Great camera, will give an indication how the higher end models would be. Advantage of using A LOT other manual focus lenses and using speedbooster adapters.
And be able to use stabilized A mount lenses with adapter. I hope Sony will add the software feature that you can put in you’re focal length for the stabilization for using old manual focus lenses. And for the higher models micro adjustment focus.
The way that guy is holding the camera, it looks like the screen should flip out like all the rest of the NEX cameras.
What’s left on my wishlist? Standard 3.5mm mic input with manual level controls.
@idealo, the EOS-M can be had at £350 with kit lens.
… this will be interesting …
I still don’t know why they didn’t call it the E3000. Everyone would then recognise it as an E mount and they could have kept that name all over the world for consistency.
It’s a bit like when on holiday, we see an EOS then a Rebel and could think they are two different cameras if we weren’t informed. it just causes confusion.
I agree
the letter e has been taken by olympus for their 4/3 mount
Ah…hadn’t realised that ‘E’ had been taken. Thanks for that.
I’ll now suggest that they called it ‘Ed’……E Digital, not short for Edward…Although thinking about it…… 🙂
Specification seems OK for entry level camera. It may be very good camera indeed but SONY marketing sucks. In my country SONY cameras are hardly visible in stores. You must search for them or ask for them otherwise sales assistant, when asked for recommendation, instantly offers you Canon or Nikon. Both companies often have a extra stand close to the entry of a large shop with one or two assistants. SONY wake up!
Indeed the same where i live (Belgium) A lot of photo stores only selling Canon or Nikon. When you mention Sony then they look to you like you are one or another dirty animal.
I’m sure Sony would like to have a stand in all stores. But C&N sells better, so there is much less risk for shop owners to hold’em in stock. Atleast ’til they got burned by the M & 1.
An alternative would of course be for Sony to take the costy of local inventory. But then, where is the incentive to sell them, compared to the C&N that is owned by the shop?
Not an easy equation. I yhink this way is rather good. Get the internet audience interested, and make’em ask for Sony cameras. That will push shop owners in the ‘right’ direction.
In Australia, I was told by a proper camera store, that Sony only deals with large chains. They stated “Sony asked where is your TVs and Computers”, as they couldn’t get stock RX1 and RX100.
release date admin pls. thx for hard work, this looks cheap but cheerful
Andrea
Have a look here :
http://www.sony.at/product/kompakte-systemkamera-objektive/sel-1670z
The Zeiss has a minimum focal distance of 35 cm (not so close)
And is scheduled for shipping late September in Austria
maximum magnification of 0.23!!! thats pretty close! 😀
Is this a camera for fat people? Where is the 85mm? Fat before prime?
For me main questions are: will it have 50p/60p for video and faster AF?
Nice, but why the low res on the evf and lcd , i now it’s an entry level camera but it could be better. Will be nice to see what’s nex(t) to come.
wait, so IBIS and 18-55 OSS / 16-50 PZ OSS / 16-70 OSS???? thats quite the redundancy for stabilization, i know one would end up being turned off. I
guess its all exciting stuff for E-mount! hope this makes it someday to the NEX line
if you have stabilization in lens and body it could work like Sony’s balanced optical steady, but more likely the OSS will be prioritized as with OMD using Panasonic lenses
yes, but if you target this camera at the low end for beginners who are going to stick with say 18-55 OSS for 99% of the time then why even put IBIS inside?
i guess you could put it in there if you’re expecting them to buy more lenses (but quite a few of the NEX lenses already has OSS) OR if you want people to adapt third party lenses (but then Sony won’t be making any money from it)
Gustav (the guy holding the Camera in the picture above)
About the CZ 16-70/4:
“its a very great lens ”
“well , i have try the 16-70 , and its very good ,
i use only alpha camera`s (A77,A99) but i think to go also for a NEX camera”
“i play with it a hole weekend , together with a new camera…wow…i take a lot of picture`s with it , i shall place them here on dyxum over a few day`s….. ”
“yes you are right , its a bit bigger than the kit-lens 18-55 , its very good build and have OSS
“it have a focus and a zoom ring
sadly i cant post the picture`s that i take with this lens and a new camera now, but i shall post them in a few day`s.”
As an inexpensive universal camera this model can be sold in places that dont normally sell cameras.
Tourist places, suprmarkets places that will just carry one caneta and a few accesorirs.
I am really puzzled at that low res screen now…
Very strange with all other features in mind.
This is made for entry buyers who don’t know sony’s EVF… they will look at the screen and think “okay nothing spectacular” and then into the EVF: “OH My gosh, it’s clear&sharp!”
Perhaps it will be possible to have olympus ibis in a cheap camera. I bought an em5 last year for the ibis and legacy glass. The em5 soon took its place as my secondary camera at weddings for the casual shots during the reception. Then this month I bought the SH 20 p&s from olympus for $269 for backpacking to be as light as possible. It has 3 axis ibis for still and 5 axis ibis for video. Did some video yesterday on a hike to a waterfall and the SH 20 video output while walking uphill on a rocky path was smooth. I was quite impressed. I wished the nex 6 with the sigma 19mm I shot some waterfall shots at a shutter speed of 1/10th was stabliszed too. Lets hope the a3000 gets ibis The Sony partnership is showing up as the SH 20 panorama is easier than the nex since it automatically detects the direction of movement and is much improved over the em5.
This sounds sooo great!! I’m not getting something. Sigma-Tamron in the past had everytime take off the 0SS from their A-mount lenses… And now Zeiss just came out with OSS e-mount lens.. Why?
If we are talking about 5axis IBIS…. Sony take my money!!!
Too good to be true? It must be expensive, that’s the truth.
IBIS in E Mount entry Camera is a good thing. But several other things might be limited or crippled as Sony never gives a full-fledged ergo like in Panasonic GH3, G6 or say GX7. In a G6 like camera a rotating touch screen and a nice video specs is always desired. I hope it has that too….
What abot af motor for old a mount lenses?
You have to get the la-e1 adapter to get the motor has A mount lens.
I pressed submit with the adapter wrong its the la-ea2 with the motor.
Per Dicahub, the bottom half of the top center image is also the NEX-7.
Small!
Now, if the NEX-FF comes in this form factor…
OSPDAF ?
The only thing that is keeping me from looking at Sony instead of the m43 system is the lack of a good macro lens. The 30mm E-series lens won’t cut it compared to a 45mm or 60mm for m43 or the 60mm on my Canon DSLR that I would like to downsize.
You can put any lens you want on this camera.
Thats the whole point of e mount and IBIS.
I see your point. However, I can get a macro lens from Oly for $400-500 with a better FOV and working distance. For a NEX/ILC I’d need to pay that for a lens plus an adaptor that may or may not give full AF capabilities. Yes, Sony cameras have focus-peaking, but I’m not sure that would be quick enough for some of the work I do with insects. If there is someone doing hand-held macro with a NEX and 3rd-party lens, point me in the direction of their work so I can see how they got over this challenge, because a NEX-6 or the next step up the ILC chain could be really nice for my needs.
If the AF works as it’s supposed, the low res LCD doesn’t matter. You can’t see s*it on the screen when sun is shining anyway ,and you have a very nice EVF (1.44 M Oled) is infact a very nice EVF (for the people that never looked through it)
So, if these new lines of Sony ILC cameras are to have IBIS, it probably means a whole new sets of E-mount lenses without OSS (making for more compact designs I’m guessing).