And finally we got the list fo products that will be announced soon by Sony. Here it is:
– NEX-5T (same camera as the NEX-5r but with some minor new features)
– Α3000 (this is the name in Japan. In US and Europe it will be ILC-3000)
– Cyber-shot QX10 (the lens-camera)
– Cyber-shot QX100 (the lens-camera)
– E 16-70mm F4 (Zeiss lens for around $1,000)
– E PZ 18-105mm F4G OSS
The new stuff will be announced next week (we don’t know yet if on August 27 or 29 or on both days for different products). The QX cameras may be announced along the Honami Z1 on September 4. Major NEX-FF (and A-mount?) stuff could be announced in late September. More about that soon on SAR!
Thanks Digicaminfo for your help and stuff list!
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both lenses F4.0? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Let the moaning begin: “where’s that 2.8 zoom!”
The 18-105/4 G is a superb move if it turns out to be similar in size (collapsed) as the Fuji 18-55, a high performer and weather or at least dust sealed.
Very exciting! I am however more excited about September and the FF NEX prospect.
Agree the 18-105mm f4 collapsed lens seems to be the best news from the other launches.
but why not 1.4??????????????
1.4 is sooo 2012 Sony must be able to put a 0.7 lens in a tiny box and with no sacrifice to the IQ come on Sony sell that lens forb € 250, 00 and it will sell as hot cakes for sure!
only if if covers the Medium Format image circle, though.
Great news.is there any info yet which cameras will get a firmware update for the lenses?
Trash
What happened to the 85mm prime that was rumored to be released early 2013 and still has not appeared? Okay, it was only a SR4 rumor, but still.
I am very interested in both the 16-70 and 18-105, but I have to see price, performance and size first before deciding between the two. My 18-200 is too bulky to always carry around and the 18-55 is missing just that extra bit tele I need, not to mention the difference in IQ the new lenses will bring.
I will know it in 1-2 weeks. It may be delayed because of the NEX-FF lens development.
I guess the 2.8 G-Zoom and the SEL-85 will be FF compatible. It make sense to me because both will be big and heavy lenses.
The NEX-FF release shifted soem priorities to NEX-FF lens development.
+1 the 18-200 is pretty big and bulky, the IQ is so-so too
I had the impression that the original, expensive, 18-200 was a rather nice lens.
opinion are all subjective anyway 😛 i had problems focusing sometimes at infinity where it wouldn’t be that sharp (i think it might be more of a body problem) and i didn’t like the bokeh produced by it very much. it weighs more than the camera and so i’d like a smaller, lighter alternative
I liked my copy of the original 18-200mm zoom, but I really do love the new power zoom version.
If the 18-105 is really f4 at 105 it is going to be bulkier than your 18-200.
Its a collapsible lens so it shouldn’t be very big at all.
Sony has such a love for zooms when it comes to E-mount
Yes, apart from the 5 primes it has also released.
Love of zooms is smart for a manufacturer with a profit motive. Primes are for the segment of their market that represents 1% of their profits and 99% of their aggravation.
E PZ 18-105mm F4G OSS sounds promissing (expecting a reasonable price). A zoom rocker is a must for every new NEX body (the only feature that was tempting about 3N for me).
NEX7 successor has definetely collapsed ???
Was it all b****it ?
“Serious” NEX coming in late September…
Andrea,
Any idea where is the “G high quality standard zoom” lens which was scheduled by Sony on the Nex roadmap since 2011, and should be released this year ? (As I’m not interest in the slow Zeiss zoom lens)
And nothing concerning Nex firmware update ?
Thanks
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Where is the G lens ?
I guess the G will be FF compatible. So you can use it for NEX APS-C and NEX FF. It will be expensive and bigger than the kit SEL-1855 and primes like SEL-50F18 and SEL-24F18. So make it FF comopatible would be a smart move by Sony.
18-105mm for full frame would be a stretch on the wide end. Most full frame standsard zooms stop around 24mm.
I mean the rumored faster F2.8 G not the 18-105 F4 G.
AFAIK it was called a G high quality standard zoom. I don’t think anyone said it would definitely be a f2.8 lens.
16-70mm became a Zeiss and not a G.
DOn’t worry. Tons of other rumors coming.
Oh damn !! That is a bad news !!!
I was hoping a serious high quality zoom lens that could be used for wedding photography !
How can sony released such a slow HQ lens !
The Zeiss is disappointing !
Seems i could never used only my Nex-7 for pro photo … 🙁
If they released a fast high quality lens, you would complain about the price.
The price is not a problem as I use it for pro photo
I Only wanted a fast quality 2.8 zoom !!
Could any1 say wuds the q10 and q100?
oh god… that english….
those are referring to these two lens/sensor things
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-hot-first-images-of-the-new-dsc-qx10-and-dsc-qx100-lens-cameras/
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-qx10-and-qx100-manual-leaks/
F4 ain’t so bad.
Yes, Indeed. It might also covers the FF circle range, which mean that it has GREAT IQ I really hope… 😀
Starting at 16mm or 18mm it won’t be, keep dreaming!
i with it would, a 16-70 f4 FF would be really awesome, realistically, not very likely
*wish
it’s aps-c
Any firmware update news for RX1 and RX100, plus 3MP EVF M2 with locking mechanism?
I am waiting a firmware update to RX100, mainly a 24p mode in video like in MKII would be nice.
may i ask
where is NEX-7 successor ???
I better hope the Nex 7 successor is going to be released late September! I’ve waited for so long.
what kind of name is ILC-3000 ? ? ? it’s horrible
+1, A3000 is sort of weird since its E mount and not A mount also… (even if it is all encompassed under the sony alpha cameras
I believed the Japanese think that ILC-3000 is too stupid for a camera name, they could not accept it, that is why no choice they need to change it to A3000. Please forgive them.
If it’s an ‘E’ mount camera why for goodness sake not just call it the E3000 for everyone…everywhere.
ε3000
Wasn’t there also going to be a 70-210 G emount lenses?
No. 50-150mm f/2.8 was rumoured. Not sure what happened to that. Andrea?
There is still one more announcement to come. Wait a bit 🙂
Good stuff!
Oh yeah true
F/4 isn’t so bad as long as they can make it sharp at that aperture. I stop down my f/1.8 lenses to f/4 for optimal sharpness and because I don’t want a shot where the bokeh is “too creamy”(haha) or a super thin focal plane.
But still, I truly wonder what’s going through Sony’s mind.
18-105 for FF or APS-C? I imagine it would be aps-c and possibly quite big. It would make sense on an a3000 dslr with e-mount but might look/feel odd on my 5n….
Does this mean we can still hope for a 24-1xx/f4 for full frame a-mount? Please please please!
Well Im interested in the Cyber-shot Q100 module for my Samsung Galaxy S4… Why could I not vote for that?
I am waiting for the nex 7 successor, the full frame will be to expensive along with all the lenses we will have to buy for it. I already have my work gear. I want the nex 7 for travel and a fun camera when not working.
we need specs for ILC-3000, Full-frame nex and Nex-7 ASuccessor. Thanks!
working on it. Confess that I worked much more on the NEX-FF and future A-mount roadmap than on the ILC-3000s epcs which I suspect to be similar to current NEX cameras anyway.
I still don’t understand why they undate the NEX5-R and not NEX-6: those two camera are sisters, based on the same technology (sensor, processor, firmare…). If you upgrade one, you have to upgrade the other two.
The only point is that the NEX 6 was revealed, if i remeber well, one month after NEX5-R… so maybe they will wait again one month to reveal an upgraded NEX-6.
well sony is under no obligation to do anything like that.
NEX 5N and 7 were released about the same time, the NEX 6 is sort of a NEX 7.5 while a NEX 7 II would be of a higher grade is what I would think. currently there isn’t much differences between the 6 and 7, so 7 II should bring a bigger upgrade this year (rumored sept) and that’d make sense, so NEX 6 II should be coming next year?
NEX-6 is not like a NEX-7.5. It sits between the 5- and 7- series in the line-up. More enthusiast-friendly than NEX-5, but more consumer than NEX-7.
In general, and this goes for all the manufacturers, the higher up in the line-up a camera sits, the less often it is replaced. Entry-level models are usually replaced every year, enthusiast models every 2-3 years, and pro models every 3-4 years. So while we may expect a new NEX-3 and NEX-5 every year, I don’t think we can expect a new NEX-6 the year after the first model came out.
The 5 series probably sell faster so Sony now need to place new orders for components for a fresh production run. The parts ordered for the 6 are not yet all used up.
Fresh production run is the time for a small update.
In case the NEX-5T really has got a new user interface this won’t be a minor feature at all, well but only six days to wait if this release date does not pass like the 13./14. already…
I don’t see the point of having two separate camera announcements just one month between them but that’s just me.
The Sony IFA press conference is on September 4 for the biggest highlights like new 4K-TV´s, PS4 and Honami. Usually some “smaller pre highlights” will be announced a week before, because they can´t show all products at one press event. But you´re right, only one date makes sense. So it´s only August 27 or 29, not booth.
Sorry both not booth…
How about some facts about the FF NEX finally? You are losing credibility Mr. SAR!
wow! Today you are all kind to me? Why should I lose credibility? I am the first that have reported about the NEX-FF. I told you the first lens specs. I am working on it even on vacation time while no other website ever reported about the NEX-FF. Damn, sometimes you are very tiring. Expecting everything instantaneously and becoming arrogant because you don’t know how hard it is to grab info. Icki please make me a favour. Never come back! Visit the other sites that have plenty of more credibility like you said:)
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Andrea you’re doing a great job and just ignore the ignorant few who need to look up ‘rumour’ in the dictionary (or ‘rumor’ if you must)
The new lenses look interesting if they manage reasonable quality at a small size, although I confess primes would tempt me more and a fast 85mm particularly.
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I can’t believe that in every post no matter what it is someone always asks about the NEX 7 successor. All they need to do is real the comments of the last post to see that more info is coming in a couple of weeks.
I think you’re doing a great job, Mr SAR! 🙂 Regarding the various NEX updates, I’m relatively new to Sony and an upgrader from a prosumer Nikon. I was ready to buy the NEX 5R, but with no flash, it was a no-go.
I was then ready to spring for a NEX 6, but it seemed (for the longest time) that the NEX 7 successor was to come out, so I waited again – especially since the 6 was at a similar price point. I’ve been waiting a while now!
Anyway, I look forward to your updates! Once we know the specs of the new models, it would be great to see a side-by-side comparison a la dpreview. Thanks!!
but the 5R comes with a (really bad) flash 😛
Keep up the good work & just ignore that idiot…
Andrea, you are doing the best you possibly can and are making a great job of it and we thank you for doing it. Ignore the occasional lunatic, there’s always someone who forgets to take their meds.
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Admin, doing a very good job. Forget this Ickky ‘icki’ idiot. What a dumb name anyway. More then any thing else, take some time out to enjoy your vacation. That’s most important. All work and no play makes for a dull life. Need to spend time for yourself and those dear to you. 😉
I can wait a month or so easily for NEX-FF news. In the meantime I have the NEX-6 as my ‘pacifier’ and serving me very well. 🙂
I buy a7000 or ilc-7000
Admin,
does the 50-150 f2.8 rumor still stand or does it turn to be the PZ 18-105mm F4G OSS?
Was wondering the same thing. 50-150mm is a big overlap over the 18-105mm (although it is f/2.8)
Both lenses F4? What’s the point of the Zeiss, then? I don’t think the G lens will cost a lot more to make the Zeiss look like a nice option.
But I’m really tempted by that 18-105mm F4 PZ!
And Andrea, you’ve ALWAYS done a GREAT work here! Don’t listen to those bad people who act like spoiled children and try to diminish your work!
What’s the point? Ultimate image quality, maybe.
Plus it isn’t a PZ – I hate the PZ implementation on the 16-50mm. Motor assisted zooming is really disconcerting and it annoyingly reverts back to 16mm if the camera goes into standby.
Let’s be patient with the rumor even if all goes 95% correct.
the 16-50 PZ used to have a SR5 news for G-lens class.
No offence to admin, I appreciate the work.
SAR now quoted in local danish paper
http://jyllands-posten.dk/digitalt/mobil/ECE5845035/sony-klar-med-opsigtsvaekkende-fotoudstyr/
If the 18-105 f/4 PZ is sharp wide open, it sounds like a winner to me!
I don’t want the bulk of a f/2.8 zoom in my NEX. In that case, I’d go with DSLR.
By the way, read this: http://www.popphoto.com/gear/2013/08/rise-f4-zoom-lens
Great to see both lenses in F4. They better be tiiinnyyy. Sony needs some compact lenses.
PZ 18-105mm is good news for the lineup even though im not interested.
Range not idea for soccer moms, but maybe…tennis mums.
All the Sony lenses…which recently came out are useless for my perspective and few of the people I know of. I bought Nex as the only system…with 18-55 lens.
Bought Sigma 19,30, Sony 50mm. Wanted to do wildlife and has been waiting for a 70-300 since last 3 years. Many of friends put off buying nex as they dont have 70-300 for birding. 55-210 is not enough zoom. Andrea is there any chance that Sony will ever bring compact 70-300 with F5.9 max ?
Sony has 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6 DT Alpha A-Mount. When the new NEX APS-C camera that accepts both NEX and A mount lenses, without converter, will appear ?
“E 16-70mm F4 (Zeiss lens for around $1,000)”
Disappointed no OSS. That could put me off buying this lens. 18-105 not wide enough for me. Need 16mm at wide end.
please understand that lenses with f1.4 there is a limitation with the current NEX cameras due to 1/4000 shutter. To be able to use f1.4 lenses properly cameras needs 1/8000, so no lenses till Sony will introduce new NEX models with higher shutter.
I agree a 1/8000th shutter would be nice, but that doesn’t make f1.4 useless unless you’re outdoors in very bright sunshine where you’re not guaranteed f1.8 won’t have the same problem.
I regularly use f1.4 and f1.2 with my NEX and my main use of those would be indoors where the problem never exists.
And look at the Pen F 40mm f1.4 (even with adaptor) to see just how tiny Sony could make an f1.4 if they design it explicitly for the APS-C sensor
If the NEX-5T replaces the 5R touchscreen back to the 5N one, I’ll be in.
Ok, so I’m not the only one a bit surprised by the G zoom changing to a 18-105mm. I admit that sounds really interesting and a good fit for the system but I am surprised by TWO high quality zooms being announced so close together and both at f4.0. I have not problem with the speed just seems like an odd choice but then the NEX has oddly always been about a lot of over lap (how many 18-200m zooms are there now?… four?)
I am considering either the NEX-3N at its nice sale price of $399 or waiting for the NEX-5T – which will probably be a lot more $$. By minor updates, do you mean the 5T will add something like:
– the SELP1650 zoom as new kit lens;
– full multi-accessory shoe instead of current port;
– built-in pop-up flash, like every other current NEX;
– updated menu system;
– zoom ring around shutter button from NEX-3N; and
– maybe an NEX_6-style Mode dial up top?
Well, that’s what I’m hoping for at least to tempt me away from the super-low priced 3N.
– zoom ring around shutter button from NEX-3N
I think that’s considered a beginner feature, meant for compact camera upgraders, and likely won’t appear in the mid- and high-end models. Having said that, I would like that feature too, but I don’t think we’ll get it in the NEX-5T.
– maybe an NEX-6-style Mode dial up top?
I think that’s considered an enthusiast feature, and thus reserved for the high-end models. Having said that, I would like that feature too, but I don’t think we’ll get it in the NEX-5T.
It’s all about product differentiation. No point in having four camera series (NEX3/5/6/7), if they’re going to share too many features.
One thing that just occurred to me, I think a lot of us (myself included) are forgetting how important the e-mount video cameras are to Sony. While I am more excited by the full-frame NEX next month the 18-105mm does have some appeal from a video perspective. The 18-200 was a little too big, slow (at the long end), and soft but 18-105mm would cover all my video needs, would be fast enough, stabilized, and shouldn’t be as big. If it is a solid performer at f4.0 it could be very tempting.
While I usually shoot video and stills with my NEX cameras having a nice PZ lens would be great when I rent an FS style body for corporate video shoots. Hmmm….
None of these products are even remotely interesting for many users. Big yawn all around from me.
Could someone please explain this:
If both NEX and A-mount will have on-sensor PDAF, sensor stabilization and be mirrorless, what will be the difference ?
Two different lens mounts, hence different flange distances, and hence cameras of different sizes. The A-mount cameras are for those who want a chunkier camera and the ergonomics that comes with that, while the E-mount cameras are for those who want their cameras to be more compact. Not offering DSLR-sized cameras might mean losing customers to Canon/Nikon/Pentax, and Sony doesn’t want that.
Try shooting a NEX with no viewfinder with a 70-200 all bright sunny day. It’s possible, but, not comfortable.
16-70 F4 have OSS
Sony make me believe that they have the most confusing camera line up. I have enough of waiting Alpha 77 replacement …moving to Nikon!
Bye 🙂
Anything about a new NEX-6? It’s the nicest in the current lineup! And thanks Andrea for your hard work!
Am I the only one who is disappointed that the 18-105 is a power zoom?
The range is just what I wanted, it’s a G lens, has OSS but it’s a power zoom which is not the control method I wish my NEX to have for it’s lenses.
I love a classical, manual zoom – it makes me warm and fuzzy inside… I don’t mind the bigger size in this case.
16-70CZ, and a new RX1 styled body, and I’m in! Bye bye alpha kit.
“spread the word to Nikon and Canon friends. Sony has something “special” for them too!”
What ? JPEG engine and color rendition that do not suck ? :))