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(SR5) 16-70mm Zeiss has OSS. A3000 (ILC-3000) has new 20 Megapixel sensor.

Digicaminfo confirms the lens and cameras we wrote about the past weeks. Here are some more info about the next week NEX announcement:

  • Zeiss Vario-Tessar T * E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS
    – Filter diameter of 55mm
    – Has OSS(!)
  • E PZ 18-105mm F4G OSS
    – Filter diameter of 72mm
  • NEX-5T
    – Look almost the same as the NEX-5R (It has NFC, FN-button control like on SLT cameras, new Menu Interface and a couple of more things.)
  • α3000 (ILC-3000 in EU and US).
    – Looks like a classic Sony SLT camera (but is E-mount has no SLT tech).
    – Has a new  20.1MP APS-C sensor
    – built-in EVF

As I told you before the new stuff will be announced next week. Hope sources can tell me the exact date (August 27 or 29?). The QX cameras will be announced on September 4. A major surprising announcement will be made in late September.

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  1. Zeiss never have had oss. Now, as the new bodies should have 5-axis stabilization, zeiss is building lenses with oss?? I am so confused about the aims of sony and zeiss strategie …. realy!

    1. some bodies will have 5 axis stabilization. Current NEX don’t have it and some of the future NEX will also not have it.

      1. would it make sense if the new NEX 7 have IBIS and then NEX 6 series does not? that’d be quite a differentiator between the two and would justify a higher price charged by the 7 series

      2. Some NEX bodies will have IS, some won’t? That’s quite an erratic strategy, though it is in line with the strategy of having 2 different mounts with same sensor size and without mirror.

        1. Makes very very perfect sense. No A-mount lenses have OSS, and many of E-mount don’t. Let me name a few:
          sony’s 16/2.8, 20/2.8, 24/1.8, 30/3.5, sigmas 19,30,60, CZ 12,32 (and coming 50) samyang’s 8, 300. (that’s 11 lenses! half of emount lenses)
          Once you realize Sony is going to put Oly’s “5-axis” which also supports ROTATION which in-lens stabilizers don’t do, makes even more sense.

        2. I am sure that if Sony had Oly’s “5-axis” stab before they started e-mount line, all of E-mount bodies would have had it.

        3. I guess new FF nex will have IBIS to keep the new lenses smaller, while APS-C nex will be without ibis so they can charge more for the lenses.

    2. Well, firstly, Zeiss won’t be building it.

      Secondly, obviously they are open to allowing Sony to use their “optical formula” with OSS added.

      1. The optical formula of this Zeiss Vario-Tessar T* E 16-70mm f/4 ZA OSS is not necessarily Zeiss’s.

        For instance, the one of Carl Zeiss Sonnar E 24mm f/1.8 is from Sony, not from Zeiss (Sony’s patent and two Japanese people as inventors).

    3. Sony is still not able to break the law of physics.

      Tell me how you want to do an 5-axis stabilization with a sensor who does _not_ have any place to move?!? How should that work?

      What kind of stabilization would that be? 1 EV?

  2. So the NEX-5T will have the “old” 16MP sensor while the ILC-3000 a new 20MP sensor ? Makes me believe that the NEX-5T will have this new 20MP sensor too.
    Or maybe it is left for the NEX-7 successor, to compel some NEX-5 fans to move to the next NEX-7.

    1. Maybe the new 20mp sensor has improved PDAF. It would need to in order to compete properly with the Canon Rebels, which is why this camera exists.

  3. ILC-3000 – In some of your posts you’ve called this a NEX and mentioned E-mount, but the name α3000 would lead me to believe it’s an A-mount. Once the mirror is gone, the two systems can share more of the same firmware that runs them. A-mount bodies would still have to have on board stabilization and a motor for older lenses, but I would expect many E-mount releases would have a corresponding A-mount release and vice-versa.

        1. It doesn’t make perfect sense when we all know the ILC-3000/α3000 is an e-mount. Unless the rumours are completely wrong, of course.

          Of course, it is inevitable that Sony will keep the Alpha name, even after they dump A-mount. 😉

    1. >Once the mirror is gone, the two systems can share more of the same firmware that runs them.

      Presence/absence of mirror has nothing to do with how firmware being similar or dissimilar. E mount already has LA-EA2.

  4. I am waiting to hear more about the 5T. Will this improve on the C-AF?

    Even the NEX-6 (in my opinion) has a lot of trouble with moving subjects. If this problem has been fixed, then this is a big deal. If it has not been fixed, then I worry about the functionality of the mirrorless Alpha.

  5. I will be all over this Zeiss if the price is right.

    The 18-105 seems kind of redundant unless you really need the extra reach. It’s going to be quite big – even if it is collapsible, it still has a 72mm filter, which is more than the height of the NEX-6! I suspect it is designed more for the ILC camera.

    1. At 72mm filter, that is going to be a big f’n lens. This will probably be geared more to the video people. Maybe it has the active OSS as well.

    2. I actually think unless the Zeiss really does have OSS and is much better than the 105mm I’d prefer the 105mm for the extra reach (for editorial and interview footage this would really cover ALL my needs for video).

      I am also surprised by the diameter though! 72mm is really big. That’s bigger than the old 70-200mm f4 full-frame zoom I have lying around here.

      The two lenses seem so close in spec (and potential price) it will be very interesting to see how they compare. I do think the PZ is geared much more towards video but still.

      1. the 18-105 pz might end up being a kit lens option coupled with the new E-mount cameras, like how canon has a 18-55, 18-135 and 18-200 options :O just maybe

  6. OSS in Sony/Zeiss 16-70MM? If this were rumored to be a Zeiss/Zeiss lens (a la Touit), then I’d be surprised to see them include OSS, as they’ve always claimed that OSS was inimical to the high optical quality. However, since this is presumably a Sony lens, with Zeiss c0-branding, then perhaps Zeiss held their noses and allowed OSS to be added. In any event, we’ll know soon enough.

    1. There are tons of Zeiss branded lenses on fixed lens cameras that have OS, including RX100 lens. Why is everyone surprised that this lens has OS? I said it will have OS the first day SAR mentioned the lens, duh. That was obvious. Seriously. People are surprised? Zeiss says all kinds of stupid things, like the reason they don’t do AF lenses for Canon and Nikon mount is because AF is bad for optical quality. That didn’t stop them from make AF Touit lenses 4 years later after making that statement, did it?

      Nex cameras don’t have IBIS, and it is highly unlikely they will have IBIS in future. APSC is a bigger sensor than M4/3 and it’s unlikely (if not just physically impossible) that you can stabilized the bigger sensor in small tiny bodies like Nex-7, I won’t hold my breadth for IBIS on future Nex bodies, definitely not on FF Nex, which would be even bigger sensor than APSC and 10 times more difficult to stabilize.

    1. why on hell DSLR look alike ? For a retro look like the OM-D ? I prefer EVF in the corner, like NEX6/GX7. So my nose won’t cover the touch screen with grease and i can put my eyes closer to the viewfinder 😉 But i guess it’s for “low brain” people who thinks that since it’s look like a dslr it’s make better pictures, and more mpx make pictures even better 🙂 I bet that this ICL-3000 (very 80’s name indeed 🙂 wil have tons of scene mode, insta-filter and direct sharing.

    2. Go buy a Canon 100D, no?

      I don’t see the point of this DSLR-shaped e-mount camera. A mount without a lot of lenses, a size on par with reflex… Am I the only one who doesn’t understand the concept?

      I hope this ILC thing will still be small. Maybe it will looks like the first Samsung NX. They looks like mini reflex. If it’s not mini, I don’t see…

    1. I don’t think so but I can’t imagine Sony releasing a camera without it at this point. Whether it’s good seems to be the real question.

      1. Honestly, I would hope so. If they intend to compete with DSLRs as it appear to be the case with this new line of cameras, PDAF is a necessity.

        1. It’ll be crap AF on it and the reviews will say so. Reviewers will summarise that people wanting a dSLR sized body should just go and buy a CaNikon dSLR.

          Sony are idiots.

          1. Actually, the AF tracking on Nex-6, according to reviews (like DPR) was already pretty impressive. This technology will just keep improving until DSLRs are dead

    1. My ideal system:

      NEX 7 style aps-c camera body, 14 f/2.8, 24 f/1.4, 35 f/1.4, 55 f/1.4, 90 f/1.8, olympus style 5-axis IBIS and a nice fusion of video and photography in one compact body.

      Next stop for me is the NEX 7 successor.

  7. If the Zeiss is a Sony-Zeiss, and shares the same convenient Autofokus as the 24/1.8, than this lens will for sure be mine. 🙂

    I tested both Touits on my NEX7, and both times it left mixed emotions – very good IQ as expected from Zeiss, but an awkward AF (everytime hunting, and extrem loud)

    1. I will be a Sony Zeiss for sure if Sony announce it.

      I just found this on a forum:
      “Sonnar (‘sun’) was originally a design well suited for bright lenses (f1.5 and above) while Tessar (‘four’) was an original 4-element design that was famous for sharpness. ‘Vario’ builds on the orginal design to make the lenses ‘variable focal length’, or more commonly known as ‘zooms’.”

      Apparently Tessar design excel by using few lens elements and centre sharpness.

      This Zeiss seems more and more interesting. The filter thread diameter is even smaller than the Fuji 18-55.

      1. “This Zeiss seems more and more interesting. The filter thread diameter is even smaller than the Fuji 18-55.”

        Does it mean that it will be ridiculously underdesigned like the 16-50mm pancake?
        Would be a huge disappointment for a Zeiss lens.

        1. That the $1000 price tag and the Zeiss name leaves me hope that this is actually a good lens.

          But as enthusiastic as I am so far, I will not actually buy this lens (and buy into NEX, Panasonic GH1 owner right now) until I see a favourable test by Photozone. $1000 is just too much to buy on faith alone (returning goods is such a hassle where I live).

          Admin: any word one size and weight of this lens?

  8. Hey, this is the post where the real excitement starts, since the less invention the NEX-5T’s body will bring, the more is to focus on the the new user interface menue.

    Additionally Sony naming their ILC on their Japanese test market “α” sounds like the first test balloon to convince A-Mount users into switching – interesting development…

  9. So the a3000 will look like a SLT. Use aps-c sensor. May have in camera stabilization.

    Meanwhile, future a-mounts will be mirrorless…

    So other than lens compatibility, what’s the real difference between a3000 and future a-mounts???

    More and more, it looks to me like Sony is in experimentation mode, and at least considering the possibility of phasing out the a-mount depending on how the market reacts to the “new” systems over the next couple of years.

    1. Just thinking out loud… I wonder if this camera is the first of the A mount mirrorless.

      What if instead of true A mount cameras sony is launching SLT style bodies with E mount instead? And then just use an adapter for the A mount lenses. Like olympus is doing apparently.

      Quite frankly I wouldn’t mind that at all, we could have two lines of lenses using one single body. Also we could use every lens on the market on a DSLR, just like NEXs or M4/3. And other accessories like speedboosters , etc.

      1. That might be a perfectly good option for new buyers.

        But it is unlikely that A-mount lenses would retain their optimal functionality through such method. Even best case scenario — using an A-mount lens will add the additional bulk of an adapter, making it even bulkier than using a native A-mount camera.

        So this would be bad news for current A-mount users who are invested in A-mount glass.

        1. If the adapter is mounted on the camera at all times, basically what you have is an A mount camera and A mount lenses. Size will be the same for both camera and lenses.

          I don’t see why an adapter would not retain all the lens functionality. Doesn’t the LA-EA2 keep all of the lens functions on nexs bodies? I though so. I think even screwdrive AF works.

          Basically it could be another adapter with everything but the mirror, PDAF would be commanded by the sensor. Wouldn’t something like that work?

          1. On sensor PDAF on the Sony A99 is only compatible with certain lenses.

            If the A3000 is already the size of the Sony SLT — then putting on an adapter, whether you leave it on full time or not, will still make it bigger and bulkier than a Sony SLT.

            I just don’t see E-mount with adapter as a solution that would really make people who are heavily invested in A-glass very happy.

          2. I actually really like the idea of an adapter for a-Mount lenses. Of course it will upset current a-Mount glass owners, however if all a series are going mirror-less, then why tie yourself in for a larger lens than you need to, for all future generations.

            If you are going to make a break, then makes sense to start it as soon as you can. Exactly the same thing happened with 4/3 with the switch to m4/3, and for the exact same reasons as far as i can tell.

            Good call.

    2. It will be a Nex, with an additional plastic overlay all arround so it will look like a SLT.

      So people will see a big DSLR and confirm you are a decent Photographer.

    3. Andrea may have gotten info that the ‘future of DSLR’s is mirrorless” and read that as “a-mount will go mirrorless”. But it may mean that a parallell line up with e-mount dslrs will emerge, starting with the ILC3000.

      Rumors have lately started to talk about some more SLT based cameras,
      indicating that there will be both SLT and mirrorless DSLR’s in their line up,
      one using a-mount, one using e-mount.

  10. The ILC-3000 it’s looks like a good opportunity to introduce a E-mount camera with 5-axis Stabilization, could be a smart move if they can improve video quality and options with the cost of the size over the NEX. Something like A NEX for big lenses 😉

    -The Zeiss 16-70mm Zoom sure will be expensive as usual.
    -The 18-105mm a nice all around lens but sure will be too big for NEX (maybe is suited for the ILC-3000).
    -The NEX 5T: i doesn’t care too much(I am intrigued though changes in the UI)
    -The ILC-3000: maybe here is something.

  11. Any idea whether the ILC-3000 will have “Steady Shot” or some other stabilization? It would be great to be able to use less expensive (such as the Sigma primes) E mount lenses and have them stabilized.

  12. NEX is a system that will not be discart.Nex will be there for the small size and the portability.

    a3000/ILC 3000 will be SLT style with better grib but with E-mount and you will be able to attach the LA1/LA2… etc to use again the a mount lens.

    Curent SLT will continue but for how long we dont know yet. I really dont understant how will be possible to use the a mount lens if the cameras will become mirroless.

    When the ILC Serie grow up and is and mature enought to replace the SLT in AF speed and acurancey then i dont understant how we will use the curent a mount lens without any LA1/LA2 … etc adapters

    1. I don’t see your problem. Sony will NOT give up A-Mount as long as they’re selling enough cameras and just in case this day will come it’ll be comfortably prepared for you to easily continue with your existing glass attached to E-Mount – Canon wasn’t that friendly with theiy customers when switching from FD-Mount to EOS-EF.

  13. I think the “PZ” of E PZ 18-105 means power zoom, which is for the purpose of video taking, instead of pancake zoom 😛 so it will not in pocket size but even larger than usual, just like the 18-200PZ

    1. Indeed, it has always stood for “power zoom”. And yes, there is no reason to suggest the 18-105mm is going to be small in any way and the PZ aspect does not mean it will be collapsible.

  14. Its possible Sony plans to make lots of fast zoom lenses for e-mount and we all know fast lenses tend to be big and the whole point of the nex is to be small. I guess a Dslr shaped e-mount would work well for people with bigger e-mount lenses. I don’t think they will get rid of a-mount unless they make and perfect a dual mount then something will have to go.

  15. Finally an Alpha with E-Mount!!! So it will handle like an SLR/SLT but with the adaptability of E-Mount for other lenses and speed booster adapters! Hope there is a sans-mirror LA-EA2 for screw mount lenses and PDAF works with Metabones EF mount Speedbooster – that would be rockin’. Add 5-axis IS and more up-spec build of A77 or even A57 with 2 dials and I’m doubly sold. This with Sigma 18-35mm will be killer as well!

    1. I really can’t get excited about lens profile updates. Sony are working on new camera releases, they won’t be putting much, if any, effort into current firmware changes.

  16. “what the… no 400 megapixel sensor?

    there are some of us who need 400 megapixel sensors because we need to see the molecular structure of the cells of the hair of the animals we paint.”

    LOL. Just wait for it.

  17. Hi, i really wait for 16-70 for my nex-6…
    This is really big investment for me…the question is if it will fit future nex ff?

    1. I’m sure that a future FF-Nex will have at least 36MP, most probably more. And as the NEX system is mainly an APS-C system, they will include a crop mode.

  18. More slow and expensive lenses… surprise surprise !
    Oh wait, we haven’t heard anything about a new rebadged 18-200 for this year… surely there will be another one, no? It’s tradition by now!
    🙂

  19. Im hoping Sony comes out with a few nice FF e-mount lenses to go with the NEX-9.
    35/F1.4G or F1.8G
    85/F1.4G or F1.8G
    sharp focuses and nutella good bokeh.

  20. Can’t wait to see how this ILC-3000 will look like. I’m hoping it will be maintain the modern clean angular lines of the current NEX e-mount bodies and look too much like a traditional DSLR.

  21. 18-105mm F4G OSS (Filter diameter of 72mm)

    At 72mm, this lens could easily been made to open to F2.8 in the 18-35mm range. The hype for fixed aperture needs to go away, this lens should really been a F2.8-4.

    1. Who knows? It is just a rumor. Maybe it is. Or may, if the IBIS rumors are true, the lens is designed to cover an APS-H sized area to account for in-body stabilization while keeping the image completely sharp.

      1. that wouldn’t make sense for a OSS lens? and i think sony will put a rectangular cut out at the back of the lens anyway

        personally i wouldn’t be surprised if they just made a bigger front element so they can relax some tolerances and cut down cost.

  22. > (but is E-mount has no SLT tech)
    What have E-Mount to do with SLT Tech?

    Will it have Image Stabilization?

    I have a lot of manual Lenses and Image Stabilization in the Body is one of _the_ killer features sony have over Canon or Nikon.

    If Sony looses Image Stabilization in Body i have no reason to stay with Sony, really.

    The last information Sony gave is that Image Stabilisation is not possible with E-Mount, so i hope its in fact an Mirrorless A-Mount Camera.

    1. “I have a lot of manual Lenses and Image Stabilization in the Body is one of _the_ killer features sony have over Canon or Nikon. The last information Sony gave is that Image Stabilisation is not possible with E-Mount, so i hope its in fact an Mirrorless A-Mount Camera.”

      Seriously, you do realize that most manual focus lenses WON’T work with the A-mount due to flange distance issue? The reason why all manual focus lenses work with the E-mount is not because it’s mirrorless, but because the flange distance is short.

  23. vario-tessar
    I’m really disapointed…
    Nonsence…
    tessars not a beautiful lenses, just sharp

    Only vario-sonnars make really beautiful pictures
    Hope your source is wrong we will get vario-sonnar for NEX

  24. might be interested in the A3000 and 16-70F4 combo i ll hav eot see how it looks and waht the cost might be
    then i woudl pickup a used A65 to mount my 70-200f2.8 on

    1. I think it was a disappointment compared to the A57. It has a better sensor from what I saw and read but it has downgrades in other places compared to the A57 that it replaces.

  25. Was excited by the G powerzoom as sounded exactly what was missing for 5R/3N … But 72mm isn’t what I wanted to hear.

  26. Still smells like we’re seeing the beginning of the end for A-mount. If e-mount can do FF and OSS (at the same time) there is no place left for the A-mount. Only reason to keep it for a while is that there are plenty of lenses out there. But if bodies are shipped with an adapter for the next 5 years or so Sony could easily drop A-mount completely

      1. But that can be done with the e-mount as well, e-mount lenses don’t HAVE to be compact, that was just a selling point for the NEX line.

        Realized I said OSS when I was actually thinking of SSS (or IBIS, whatever you want to call it)
        I guess the hardcore sony fanboys will soon stop arguing that IBIS is superior to OSS?

  27. Sony will confuse a lot of people if the ILC-3000 looks like the SLT models, but won’t accept A-mount lenses. I like the idea of new E-mount lenses, but it seems the ILC will have only a single lens made for it. Is that why they don’t call it NEX ?

    1. what do you mean it only has a single lens made for it? what about all the other APS-C E-mount lenses? and alpha lenses via adapter, and pretty much every other lens mount?

  28. I really hope that the new menu Interface will appear on the New NEX7 and the New NEX FF as well. And not only on the NEX5t.

  29. Really Sony?? You’re going to pull another 18-xx zoom lens? Granted the first 18-200mm was never specifically for the NEX cameras and so they came out with a smaller and more portable version. And then they add a power zoom version for the videographers out there. Now, on top of the 16-50pz and the 18-200pz, Sony is going to release an 18-105pz? I understand there are probably nuances between these offerings that I’m overlooking here but I would hope that Sony invest in lens designs that they don’t already cover yet. Within the a mount line as well it seems there is so much overlap in focal lengths.

    I would personally prefer Sony work on covering all the bases in one market before moving onto the others. Even though I’m anxious for more high end offerings, I would rather they ensure they have all the consumer lenses made first before delving into the enthusiast market and now looking at the videographer.

    1. The important distinction between the 18-200 f/3.5-6.3, the same with PZ, and the 18-105 f/4 PZ is the aperture. Having a constant f/4 aperture through the entire zoom range means little to photographers but for videographers (think professional Sony FS700, FS100, and consumer VG30, VG20, VG10, and VG900)this means you can zoom in and not have your iris stop down. The Powerzoom also means you can change focal length during a shot. So this is huge.

      Right now the majority of constant aperture lenses are 3x zoom lenses. There is one exception, the Canon 24-105 f/4. But if Sony comes-out with a 5x 18-105mm f/4 then they have a video lens that has a wider reach than any other, outside of cine zoom lenses that are tens of thousands of dollars more expensive.

      Also interesting to note is that the 18-200 e-mount lenses can act as constant aperture lenses. If you stop them down to f/5.6 at 18mm it will hold that aperture through the entire zoom range. This isn’t true for all other SLR lenses and the reason they can do this is because the aperture is electronic and not manual.

  30. OSS in a interchangeable lens carrying the Zeiss badge? Hard to believe… That means new NEX-cameras don’t have IBIS?

    1. Rooru, I think that is exactly what it means. There are a number of people who have chosen NEX for the body, and a-mount lenses for the lens quality and selection. When PDAF is added to the sensor, it just means that adapters will get smaller.

  31. So… Zeiss with OSS, α3000 that looks like A-series camera but isn’t an A-series camera nor has a native support for the A-mount lenses…

    GO HOME SONY, YOU’RE DRUNK!

    1. Panasonic makes G series cameras that look like DSLRs but aren’t DSLRss … why shouldn’t Sony offer that as a choice to people too?

      Zeiss with OSS is bad? You are the one who is drunk. Go to your mommy

  32. First of all, I am happy that Sony is releasing a power zoom at f4. However, it seems odd to me that Sony will release the Zeiss lens with a shorter focal range but the same f-stop as their more versatile G lens. Why not have Zeiss make a shorter focal length zoom with a lower f-stop (say 3.5 or 2.8)? Why did Zeiss repeat the same f4 stop but provide a shorter focal range? Couldn’t they make a slightly larger and more useful lens like a 16-50 f2.8? It seems like the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing. Having said that, I realize that Sony and Zeiss are catering to a market clamoring for small lenses. It’s just that a larger size is not as relevant when it comes to the functionality of a lens.

    1. It is big, and very strange that it is so much bigger than the 55mm of the Zeiss.

      The maximum physical aperture of a lens determines the absolute minimum size of the front element. For example: a 50mm f/2 lens requires at least a 25mm diameter front element. In reality you need more for better performance, but especially on tele lenses you see a filter size close to this minimum requirement (example: Canon 300mm f/4 has a 77mm filter and needs at least 75mm). Wide angle lenses on the other hand need (much) larger front elements for good quality than you would expect based on physical aperture.

      Long story short: maybe the rumors got crossed? Ie the Zeiss will have a 72mm filter (to get better quality at 16mm) and the Sony 18-105 will have a 55mm filter (72mm is overkill for the tele-end of that lens)?

  33. I don’t know what sony will release within the next month. The only thing I know is that with all this uncertainty (IBIS vs in lens, A-mount vs E-mount, NEX shape vs DSLR shape, FF or not…) I’M NOT BUYING ANYTHING FROM SONY until the horizon is clear.

    I can’t be buying a new body or new lenses every year, so c’mon sony, what is your bet?

    1. then never don’t buy anything, cause there’s a probability that a meteorite will land on your head.
      in-lens stabilizers won’t stop working some day if sony releases a NEX with IBIS. stop worrying about the future and go make some photos.

  34. Where’s a A-mount pancake type lens. Even Canon offers one. 18-105mm with PZ should be a cheaper alternative to the E PZ 18-200.

  35. OSS is a good news for the Zeiss zoom lens, but sadly it is a slow f4.
    Not gonna be a good zoom lens in low light condition.
    After 3 years (and very probably nothing new will come soon) we missed a high quality f 2.8 !!!!!
    Sony wake up !!!

    1. the new 16-70/4 is going be almost as large as old 18-55 (60+ mm length), but offer more zoom, 1 step faster on long end, and sharper. in everything but price, it’s a win-win.

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