Top line from left ro right: 50mm f/1.8 Black (new lens color), E PZ18-200, E16-70ZA (new lens!), E18-200LE, E PZ18-105G (new lens!), E18-200 (first edition), E55-210, E50.
Bottom line from left to right: E20, E PZ16-50, E35, E10-18, E24ZA, E30, E18-55, E16.
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Next week Sony will announce the new NEX cameras and lenses. And on the picture on top you can see the new NEX-5T, the new Zeiss 16-70mm F/4.0 OSS lens and the PZ 18-105mm F4G OSS. What you don’t see is the new ILC-3000 camera which will be announced too.The picture also shows a new Black colored version of the current 50mm f/1.8 lens.
Here is the full product announcement list:
- Zeiss Vario-Tessar T * E 16-70mm F4 ZA OSS
– Filter diameter of 55mm - E PZ 18-105mm F4G OSS
– Filter diameter of 72mm - NEX-5T
– Look almost the same as the NEX-5R (It has NFC, FN-button control like on SLT cameras, new Menu Interface and a couple of more things.)
– Same NEX-5R sensor - α3000 (ILC-3000 in EU and US).
– Looks like a classic Sony SLT camera (but is E-mount has no SLT tech).
– Has a new 20.1MP APS-C sensor
– built-in EVF (230K)
– cost around 300 pounds. Target-group is beginners.
– it will be also available with the 18-55mm as kit lens. - 50mm f/1.8 new Black colored version
These products will be announced next week (Still not sure about the date but it could be August 27). On September 4 Sony will announce the Cyber-shot QX10 and the Cyber-shot QX100 (lens-cameras) and the Z1 Honami. Major NEX-FF news and maybe some A-mount news will come in late September.
Source of the image: Xitek (Thanks Zhiyi, Andrei and an anonymous source for sharing the link!).
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116 Responses
Looks larger than expected…
No wonder they need to introduce the DSLR shaped NEX.
That’s not the reason why 18-105 is large. This is a professional quality lens for videographers who own $8,000 FS700 camcorder.
yeah it look like it is intended as a professional video lens, something the FS series desperately lacks
The scaling on this poster must be wrong.
E PZ 18-105mm F4G looks considerably larger the 18-200 and the 16-70mm F4 looks twice as large as the Zeiss 24 F71.8 and 4 times as large as the 16-50.
Strange.
Yes, 18-105 would be large as it’s cine quality lens for professional video cameras.
The lens E PZ 18-105 looks so huge!… I don’t see the point of such a large lens in the Nex lineup. It looks even bigger then the 18-200…. Too bad!
“I don’t see the point of such a large lens in the Nex lineup”
You don’t see the point but everyone who shoots with FS700 would want one.
If the lens is optically good, what does it matter how big it is ? It should be whatever size the optics require.
I do not understand this idea that because the camera body is small, the lenses have to be small too. If a lens is big and heavy, then the less weight the camera adds the better. Who wants to carry a heavy lens _and_ a heavy camera ?
Perhaps it would be good to have a camera that is just like a rear lens cap, used in conjunction with a phone ?
the lenses are:
85，PZ18200，1670ZA，18200LE，18105G，18200，55210，50
20，1650，35，1018，24ZA，30M，1855，16
Yes, you could be right. Far left, that could be the new SEL-85F18. Would be great if Sony announced this lens too with the NEX-5T, ILC and the new zoom lenses.
If it’s the 85 it is very small and looks exactly like the 50. I hope it is the 85, but I suspect it’s a black 50.
I just found that so-called SEL85F18 is exactly the same as the SEL50F18 on the right in size. I guess it’s the black SEL50F18.
I never understood why some are black, and some are silver. It seems like they flip a coin to decide.
Would make more sense if the Z’s were black, the G’s were white, and the Originals were silver.
But at least they don’t sport the cinnabar ring around the lens mount. If they did, we’d have to call them Alphas.
oh wait…
i personally prefer the look of the silver sometimes, but i find that they get scratched a lot easier than the blacks, that or its more noticeable, but yes if originals were silver and zeiss was black that might look quite nice too. but i think after a while having too many lenses which are all silver will get really boring
Please tell me that 18-105 has a rotating tripod collar.
Is is possible, that these new lenses cover FF-circle?
NO. Get over it.
BTW, what is that lens on the second row, first from left? Looks like black 50mm f1.8.
What lens is the one between the new Zeiss and G zoom?
It’s the SEL18200LE
I think it’s the 18-200mm LE or whatever it’s called – the Tamron knock-off.
The SEL18200LE, the “Tamrom” slimmed down version of the earlier 18-200 from Sony.
Thanks! 🙂
What is the leftmost black lens?
It has one ring and looks a little bigger than SEL50F18. Could it be 85mm prime?
Yup the perspectives are not correct… weird marketing picture… look at how small the SEL18200PZ looks…
Nice though, now we got an idea about how the new zooms look AND that the SEL50 is coming in black as well! (did you notice that Andrea?) 😉
the sel50f18 is an excellent lens, no doubt, but why re-release the exact same model in black? a 50mm f1.4 prime would make more sense, especially since the new black e-mount lenses have tended to be optically superior to the earlier silver versions (20mm f2.8 with an extra element vs the 16mm f2.8, etc.)
Maybe because it is easier to make the same lens in another color than developing an entirely new lens?
The 16mm is not an earlier version of the 20mm, it is a different lens. As to a potential 50mm f1.4, I don’t see much space for it between the current 1.8 and adapted lenses.
While the new lenses look huge the 18-200 PZ seems out-of-proportionally small?
Why is the SEL-18200 PZ left from the new Zeiss-Zoom smaller than the Zeiss and the old SEL-18200OSS? The black new SEL18200OSS on the left is bigger than the silver one on the right?
Ok, the right is the SEL55200 not the updatet SEL18200 but the picture scaling looks strange.
The scaling is totally messed up. Look at how the SEL1018/4 zoom is just about the size of the SEL35/1.8. Lousy marketing poster IMO.
I am looking forward to the Zeiss!
It is not a 18-200 PZ, its 18-200 LE from tamron. The PZ version is larger.
smaller because no OSS
All E-mount zooms till now have OSS.
What are you on about? Why would a Sony marketing poster for the NEX-5T include a Tamron lens?!?! …and for your info, it is the SEL18200 power zoom.
Tamron as in: the manufacturer of the lens. The brand of the 18-200LE is still Sony.
Sorry if this picture has you totally confused you. In this picture you have the SEL18200LE or call it the “rebranded” Tamron if it makes you fall a sleep easier and then there is the SEL18200PZ, which is identical to the SEL18200 but with power zoom.
*sigh*
I have no trouble sleeping, thank you very much, and I am not confused by the picture at all. Only was clarifying to you why there was no need for you to trip over the Tamron remark from LR.
16-70 is quite small … and without DOF scale again. I’ll pass. Although zooms are not for me anyway, so nothing to be sad about.
If you are waiting for a DOF scale and other retro photography features then you might as well change system now. Unless you are waiting for the FF Nex or Sony decides to make an on-screen DOF scale.
You see many zooms with DoF scales nowadays?
i wish they could implement a digital DoF scale like fuji has i think?
Considering the 18-105 has such a large filter diameter, I wouldn’t be surprised if the scale is correct. The original 18-200mm used 62mm filters and that thing was giant. It would be safe to say that this was designed for the E-mount camcorders and not really the NEX cameras.
Considering that I have rather large hands, and I mainly keep me camera steady for my “lens”-hand, I think the handling of the 18-105 will be great. Tiny body that will not drag the lens down in the back. In addition, if the zoom can be done on the body, my lens hand will be even move steady.
In general, this can be a good lens if you want to keep your armada of lenses at move and just want to walk around with one lens. From a G-lens I expect superb IQ and to be honest, isn’t that what we all want….
Any news on the price?
What is the far left black lens?
SEL-85F18?
Although size is pretty relative in this picture, I think the 85mm would be quite a bit bigger than that.
Looks like a black version of the SEL50F18, which is on the far right, but I never heard of a black version of that lens.
My guess is a black SEL50.
Yes, that must be the black 50/1.8. But what is the lens between this and the 16-70? Is that the 85/1.8?
No, it’s a badly scaled SEL18200PZ…
Damn 🙁
But where is the black SEL-1855, and the silver SEL-P1650 in the picture? Makes no sense to me to show the old lens in different colors at the same time. But ok, looking at the lens proportions in this picture and it´s a new lens… lol
Or only a SEL-85F28 like the “easy choice” A mount version…
And the big lense is not the SEL-18105F4G but a SEL-55150F28G…
I try to name the lens from left to right
last row:
? – 18200PZ (seems not in scale)- 1670F4Za – 18200LE – 18200 – 55210 – 50F1.8
First row:
20F2.8 – 1650PZ – 35F1.8 – 1118F4 – 24Za – 30M – 1855 – 16F2.8
So as expected since filter size leaked, the new PZ is a massive video lens (bigger than the 18-200mm PZ?). Disappointing, I had brief hopes of this being the type of collapsable lens that would form part of dual lens 5T kits. That would have been consistent with adding zoom levers across the range but from the pics it doesn’t look like they’re going with that?
A G lens couldn´t be collapsable.
The one on the left that everyone thinks is the 50mm f1.8 in black ask yourself this:
The only other two lenses that came in black AND silver, the 18-55mm and 16-50mm are not BOTH shown in the lens lineup.
Also, 85mm f2 (ish) rangefinder lenses are not very big at all – Have a look at the Jupiter-9 85mm f2 M39 mount and compare to the M42 mount version.
indeed, several lenses aren’t scaled a properly..just look at the barrels near the mount and you will see several lenses upscaled and others downscaled. Anyways, it’s a first glance of what’s coming for E-mount users… And many people thinking about the Pz G zoom lens being aimed towards the NEX FS, VG and EA series were spot on. It was necessary for those cameras. Sure you can mount it on the small 3, 5, 6 and 7 series but I think it makes more sense on the camcorders.
According to the source (Xitek) the following lenses are on the picture.
Top line from left ro right:
(E85?), E PZ18-200, E16-70ZA, E18-200LE, E PZ18-105G, E18-200 (first edition), E55-210, E50.
Bottom line from left to right:
E20, E PZ16-50, E35, E10-18, E24ZA, E30, E18-55, E16.
E85 would be awesome!
Wow the 18-105 looks huge! Now the Zeiss 16-70 is looking more interesting.
Or the rumors are wrong and the left is only a SEL-85F28 an the big G lens the SEL-55150F28?
I hope you were right but 55-150 was rumored SR3 only whereas 18-105 is SR5
I thought Zeiss did not do OSS because they considered it too much of an optical compromise?
RX100
Common misconception. Oss or ois or os or whatever is not an optical compromise, the design is simply different. You can achieve the same or better quality in a os lens than a non os lens. Look at canon and sigma, their vr updates and new lenses are in some cases far better.
If you want to add OSS to a planar/double gauss design then it necessitates the addition of extra elements. At a minimum this reduces (micro)contrast, and will also change how the lens renders focal transitions. Certainly, there are very good lenses with OSS (sharpness is pretty constant), but Zeiss are also well within their rights to stick with their existing designs. It’s fortunate that SONY cameras provide us with a range of lens choices.
It’s an 85mm. Good work Sony, just keep churning out those full frame focal lengths for your crop sensor cameras 🙁
Agreed. Is fuji the only ones with a brain in aps c world?
18-105mm F4G OSS looks like a 18-105mm F2.0 lens.
For a m4/3 sensor maybe
Or the SEL-18105G is the new kit lens for the NEX-VG900 FF camcorder and must be so massive because it´s FF compatible.
What is with these retarded comments about the 16-70mm and 18-105mm being full frame?! Over and OVER. It IS NOT HAPPENING. IT IS ALSO NOT HAPPENING EVER!
Relax! I also doubt it but if the G zoom is a pro video lens and it looks massive and so yes it´s possible to build. The VG900 lacks a compatible E-Mount zoom lense. It makes no sense to use the VG900 only with adapter and for video shooting primes are not the ideal solution. They often more use zoom lenses.
But of course it could be also only a fake picture. I can´t believe that such scaling desasters are made in a professional commercial.
you might got it right
Seriously have you EVER heard of a FF Ultra Wide Angle to Telephoto lens, ever? At a constant f4 to boot with OSS!?
IT IS NOT HAPPENING
Mdb.
What’s wrong with you buddy? Relax. Why so harsh?
There are wide angle telephoto lenses with f4 constant with stabilization.
https://www.lensrentals.com/rent/canon/lenses/wide-angle/canon-24-105mm-f4l-is
If the E PZ 18-105 is actually released for Videocameras and there is still a G lens from Sony missing for NEX. The new 16-70 is a Zeiss. So, mayby we can still expect a new G lenszoom when the NEX 7n will be anounced! 😉
Nobody ever said it was for ‘NEX’, just E-Mount… Your assumptions are your own.
No, Andrea said that the “G high quality zoom lens” was sadly replaced (in the original 2011 and 2012 Sony roadmap), by this slow Zeiss f.4 16-70 lens !!!!
If the specs are correct then I’m pretty sure there is something off about the scale in this picture. The SEL-1018 has a 62mm filter diameter and in this photo it looks about 1/3 smaller in overall diameter than the new 16-70mm Zeiss, which is supposed to have a filter diameter of 55mm (and both lenses have similar designs in that the filter covers most of the width of the lens unlike in the case of the SEL-1650, for example).
I suspect some strange scaling as well. Look at the diameter of the E-mount of the new 16-70mm Zeiss: it looks larger than that of the other lenses. But its kind of strange for a marketing picture, that lenses are shown *larger* then they actually are. 😉
200k EVF in E DSLM and no hotshoe in 5T plus Monster 18-105 PZ lens for E-Mount …. hahahahahahhaaaaaa!
Only interesting news now would be Nex-7 successor and full-frame nex.
What a big daddy! … lol!
and … when will Sony change the ugly silver lens color to black?
+1
I don’t think the lens to the far left is an 85, but a black 50. The lens next to the black 50 must be something like an PZ 85, it is too small to be the 18200.
A PZ 85mm huh? You understand that PZ stands for Power Zoom right?
Gosh I swear NEX users are just the…
Yeah I realized that myself before your post showed up here. I recommend you to save your swearing for yourself however because anybody can make a mistake some time, and you too.
Looking at the picture again, it probably IS a downsized picture of the PZ 18200 because the mount appears much smaller than on the other lenses, and that should definitely be the same size. Sony seems to have some creative marketing people.
Sorry, PZ 85 is not really possible 🙂 but I still don’t think it is the 18200
But a3000 is still the nex 7 replacement??
From the specs seems no…….
anyone happy about a black 50mm f/1.8? i am! was thinking about buying one, but now i know a black one will be released, i’ll wait a bit longer 🙂
I would get a black 50mm if it was available and I would also like to have a 85mm prime, so I’m happy either way.
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I was hoping for a silver 10-18…
I’m hoping these photos are fake. The lens look way out of proportion in size. If they”re not than it’s obvious none of these lens will fit the Nauticam NEX Housing ports. Sigma does lens with 49mm filters that are the same size as the smaller Sony ones. A 16-70 f4 should be in that same size category , maybe a little bit bigger. If those ratios are correct, than none of the new lens will fit our ports. Guess us NEX UW users will find out soon enough. What good is a 24MP NEX7 if there’s no quality glass for our ports? Crap, I wish I hadn’t sold my Canon UW rig.
ye – I guess one rumor beofore was that 16-70 will be about 100g havier than 1855 and filtr ring 52 mm – on the picture the SEL1018 (62 mm ring) has ring 34 pixels and the 1670 has about 43 pixels 🙂 and there is perpspective in theory above that so…
NFC is such a great feature, those extremely annoying pairing sequences for Wifi/regular blutooth makes having wireless technology too slow and a hassle to use.
Not to scale!
If that’s the 85, then it’s f/2.8 rather than f/1.8.
I love my alpha CZ16-80. If there’s a good body (based on RX1 plz!) to attach the new 16-70 too, I’m ditching alpha in favor of the nex!
My opinion of the first row from left to the right:
1. Black 50/1.8 or black 18-55 | 2. NEW 18-105 PZ | 3. NEW Zeiss 16-70 | 4. 18-200 LE | 5. NEW 50-150/f2.8 | 6. 18-200 furst edition | 7. 55-210 | 8. 50/1.8
The new 18-105 is smaller than the Zeiss 16-70 and the huge thing in the middle should be the new 50-150 fast tele zoom…
Does the 5T have a dedicated PASM dial?
I don’t think that the 18105 will be as big as it appears here. The Sony marketing people seem to have freely up- and downsized the pictures of the lenses: This becomes clear if you look at the different sizes of the mounts. In fact, the mounts should have about the same size on all the lenses, simply because it is the same mount.
More pictures in the following link:
http://digicame-info.com/2013/08/e16-70mm-f4-za-oss-e18-105mm-f.html
Feeling comfortable seeing the NEX-5T without bigger body changes and even continueing the old accessory port at least for a while. I’m pretty sure it’ll come with a similar amount of technical improvements as with all model changes before.
For those complaining about the power zoom length: Compare this to the SEL-18200 not retracted to 18mm, but set to 105mm or longer and you’ll see how small the SEL-P18105 really is, which I guess meant as a video lens will stay the same length.
18-105mm is gigantic. 16-70mm will be out of budget for most NEX users.
Time to jump ship guys!
“Vario Tessar” – strange name. Hard to imagine a zoom lens like a Tessar
Now it’s the end of September for a A-mount announcement? If they don’t announce something at Phototokina, it’s all talk.
There is no such thing as Photokina in 2013 (only even years).
Andrea,
what is the lens between the new 50mm and the new Zeiss zoom? Strange shape is not it?
For the doom sayers
1. 18-105 is ok size. It is supposed to be big as it is meant for video. It should sit well on FS700 not on NEX-5. IQ is important for it, transmission ratio, smooth zoom and excellent stbailization in video
2. 16-70 is premium lens and hopefully IQ and price are well matched. I will likely buy it. 1000$/Euro for Zeiss lens sounds as decent deal.
I am disappointed due to missing 85/1.8 or 100/2 lens for a bit more agressive portrait bokeh but will still be happy shooting 10-18 / 4 and 16-70 / 4 lenses added to my zeiss 24 / 1.8 and 50 / 1.8
Sony Sucks. This is too long to be waiting for a fast zoom or fast 85 prime for the emount. Does this mean it is never going to happen?
SIGMA PLEASE BRING US HOW YOU DID WITH THE f/1.8 APSC zoom and the 35mm f/1.4 ff.
We want sigma 16-50mm f/2.8 lens from you that is sharper than zeiss. Price ~$800.
You did it, you can do it again.