A nice source 😉 sent me more useful info about the new NEX sensors:
NEX-5T
The NEX-5T is using the same IMX080AQM-13 CMOS sensor as the 5R. But it has been slightly “improved”.
ILC-3000
The ILC-3000 is using a new 20MP sensor-IMX156AQL-13 and it’s new.
Stay tuned on SAR! These new stuff will be announced next week (likely on August 27).
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I know it gets annoying for you, but I have to ask: Are there ANY rumors for the NEX-7 successor? I mean the 5T is now the second replacement for the 5 series since the 7 launched, so it is time for a new 7.
For these – the ILC-3000 takes a strange place in Sony’s line-up. I’m curious whether it will sell or not – and how it looks, of course.
i hope so see how the new menu layout is for the 5T but most likely i won’t sell my 5R as upgrade for this….
i like the features and most of the ergonomics of the 5R for my small hands (and other people would disagree)
yep, same, guessing i’ll continue with my 5r. hopefully they’re release new firmware for the 5r as well.
in particular, there are a few interface annoyances that (it seems) be easily fixed, such as needing to press down on the rear wheel to access exposure compensation (in A mode). also, would be great to be able to assign the new wheel to exposure compensation duties.
yessss, that is my major complaint with my 5R (and my NEX 6), its really nice on the RX1 to have a exposure compensation dial.
i wouldn’t hold my breath on the whole firmware upgrade on my 5R though 🙁 it’d be really nice but sony wouldn’t do it
If the hardware on the NEX-5T is mostly unchanged from the NEX-5R, but the changes are in firmware (and there is no firmware upgrade for the 5R) then they are basically asking their customers for $700 for a firmware upgrade
Disgraceful!
If they do that then I will consider my long-term commitment to NEX very careful
careful-y. Oh for an edit function!
thats what i’m expecting too! must spend money in order to get the “upgrade”, been happy with my Sony cameras so far, especially with RX1 but there are some irks with the NEX at the moment which i HOPE can be solved via firmware by the time FF NEX comes around.
at this point I really wish the open source NEX hack project would pick up momentum
Yes, exposure compensation directly on the rear wheel in P,S&A modes would be a great idea (with the down-button assigable to another purpose). It would also be nice if the live histogram didn’t vanish while you are applying exposure compensation!
An option to access the missing (from NEX-5R, not NEX-6) ‘quick-navi’ screen would also be a godsend
not to be rude, but nobody is forcing you to buy a new camera, especially if you already have the most recent model. If you don’t like this update, then don’t upgrade then. The update will not worsen your current camera, nor will it reduce your options for a new camera.
^hah yeah i know, but most of the upgrades are only software (e.g major firmware upgrade to a better interface + allows the better use of existing buttons) then thats something that can be given to the existing model also, we’re just all banding together to moan about how it probably won’t be done 😛
This isn’t the iphone, you don’t HAVE to buy the new model every year and you shouldn’t expect endless firmware updates or massive advances from model to model. If you want a camera with better functions then buy a camera higher in the range.
If a camera has bugs, quirks or is lacking features of a comparable competitor, don’t buy it and then expect all your wishes to come true in a future firmware update.
Sony, as well as the majority of hardware manufacturers in any field will only release updates to fix major problems, or at least major problems in their eyes. They are here to make money.
Buy a book, not a new revision of your current camera, it will improve your photography 10 times as much.
well i for one am not expecting it! just saying how it’d be nice, but im not expecting it will happen 😀
*Sigh*…
Nobody complained when the original NEX-5 was upgraded to the NEX-5N as that was a major upgrade
Likewise nobody complained when the NEX-5N was upgraded to the NEX-5R as even though that upgrade was incremental it still involved a number of hardware changes and some significant new functions
However what we have here is (according to this rumour) basically just a firmware upgrade which could just as easily have been applied to the existing model, but in instead WILL REDUCE THE RESALE VALUE OF OUR CURRENT CAMERAS just because Sony want a 12 month product cycle (or some Product Manager wants his bonus), even though in this case 18 months would probably have been better so they could add some *real* improvements to the new model
There are useability frustrations with the NEX-5R which could easily be addressed in firmware and if instead they are only addressed by releasing that firmware in the form of a new model then Sony’s *smart* customers will be alienated
It takes a special kind of ‘fanboy’ to be happy about this situation!
I wonder if Sony will be packaging the 16-50 power zoom as a kit lens for the NEX5T. This will differentiate the 5T from 5R in the US. I actually suspected that the reason why Sony packaged the US 5R with the 1855 (although the Japanese 5R got the 1650) was to give buyers who liked to have the compact zoom another reason to pay more for the 6.
actually, people were saying the same about NEX-5R
They are not asking you to update. They are doing gradual updates to keep their products competitive for new customers. Most (90%+) existing customers never update each year. If you are looking for revolutionary updates each year everyone (PC, camera, computer, shirts, beds, etc.. ) will disappoint you at one point or another.
Most European bundles of 5R also came with 18-55 but you can see that the 5R was designed to go with the 16-50 because they replaced the side ‘strap hooks’ on previous cameras which forced the camera to hang down with the 18-55 (excellent idea!) which eyelets that make it hang in the conventional way when it is around your neck (boo!)
I think you may be right that they wanted to promote the NEX-6 with the new lens, but I think also they probably had a lot of stock of the 18-55 (or at least parts for it to assemble) to get rid of so put it on the NEX-5R
I’m happy about it anyway, because I prefer the 18-55 to the 16-50
“improved” sensor …by using the same old sensor… hmm.
I think the sentence structure is confusing… what he means is that the sensor is the same but the camera has been slightly improved otherwise (nfc chip added and a new firmware which they don’t want to give 5R users!)
It could mean slightly better noise reduction. Maybe some read out improvements. QE is already very high today so its not likely it will suck in much more light.
better autofocus?
ILC-3000 is APS-C?
yes, apparently. seems like a very budget aps-c with a low end EVF and LCD 🙁
Yeah… looks like it is going to be very lowest end… Not what I expected. Again, Sony having trouble taking things seriously… 🙁
“Yeah… looks like it is going to be very lowest end… Not what I expected. Again, Sony having trouble taking things seriously…”
it looks like this is not the camera for you,(low end)what did you expect this time? A cutting edge camera for a inexpensive price.(get a grip.)
your last sentence gets no comment.
> what did you expect this time? A cutting edge camera for a inexpensive price.(get a grip.)
I was expecting a high-end NEX. E.g., an NEX-7x in SLR form factor, i.e., an a77 with E-mount.
> your last sentence gets no comment.
OK… 🙁
For others who care: Sony is pioneering something very exciting with the mirrorless “SLR” Alphas and the NEX-FF. I know a lot of people are salivating at both, and ILC bridges these two lines, a very cool concept. So, it would have been nice if Sony came out swinging hard. Mirrorless is not just a way to make the camera smaller and cheaper, but a very serious advancement in camera technology.
Funny how the NEX-7 camera rumors fell by the wayside. Also, what happened to holding off camera release till significant improvements are ready? NEX-5T sounds like the annual minor release. Move the letterings around a little, change the paint, turn on a hidden software option in the firmware, update the box packaging. Voila, a new NEX-5.
Nice to see that the new 20 MP sensor is … new.
“The ILC-3000 is using a new 20MP sensor-IMX156AQL-13 and it’s new.”
any news on NEX 7? Or telephoto lens?? 🙁
Thanks!!
be patient! 🙂 its been said many times that its coming, don’t need to bring it up in every thread
significant improvement rumor applies to a mount only, add it seems.
slightly improved = same old D7000 16MP sensor overall performance but just so you can’t say it’s exactly the same
Sensor of D7000 generation suffers overheating issue. So same performance without/less overheating issue was an upgrade. We’ll see what improvement Sony can make this time.
Is the new 20 MP sensor the same as the new a58 sensor?
Any word if the 5T will have a built-in flash? or a standard external flash connection? Lack of flash in the 5R put me off my NEX purchase for a year. The 3 (which includes flash) didn’t seem good enough, and the 6 (which also has it) didn’t seem worth an extra $200.
I would not expect a flash on the 5 series.
This was always the most epired and smallest body on the Nex series (except C3) and it is fantastic.
Also, There is nothing wrong with the 3n… Same sensor… Excellent performances.
It has flash and PZ control to attract PS upggarders.
And the Nex6 worth every penny. For the extra price You get the flash… The mode dial… And the most important: The EVF.
Personally the Nex range is very well made…
Each range 3, 5, 6-7 is made for a certain target consumer.
Leaked pic of 5T and lenses
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3536682
I’m giessing that new ILC 3000 camera and new no mirror no slt line will be multi a/e platform. If there is af on sensor than all you need is af motor and cheep distanca adapter. Soon we will have clear minolta like line 3000 5000 7000 9000
The new ILC 3000 sensor is the same sensor as A58, only with added PDAF points, right?