The reflection in the eye of the Zeiss 56MP image may show the photographer holding the new A7rII 🙂
The following rumor comes from a new source. As with any new source please take the info with a grain of salt and not read too much into it yet:
Sorry to be anonymous, but i think the rumors of the 50mp A7R II are true. we exhibit at NAB, and are good friends with a lot of the vendors including Zeiss, Sony, etc. We were told by one of our sources “three months for the A7R II 50MP sensor” and that was all they mentioned. Could be more stuff, but the guy who told me also works for a related manufacturer.
Thanks again for sharing the info Anonymous source!
So far the A7rII is rumored to be announced between mid May and early June. I have no 100% confirmed info yet but I believe (my speculation and not a rumor!) it will be the third or fourth week of May…
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I found a similar photo on Flickr taken with otus 85. I upscaled it to 50mp & compared the two. They look remarkably similar in quality after upscale. just try it & I think the conclusion is quite clear.
If this is true and it includes IBIS and silent shutter, I’ll take two!
No thanks but I’m interested to see how this unfolds. I just bought an a77II- good to go!
Who will be able to buy $$$$$ that camera ???
I will be able 😉
me too… together with the new macro and the wide batis!
i would be tempted to by a NEX 7N camera 😉
> The reflection in the eye of the Zeiss 56MP image may show the photographer holding the new A7rII
Actually, it’s pretty easy to see which camera the photographer is holding 🙂
Enhance it once more, I want to see IBIS mechanism inside
😉
Nice one…
I suppose you mirrored it in order to be able to read it, right?
Since it’s coming from a reflection… LMFAO
Thanks for stealing my joke!
What are you taking about?
I made that image as a joke on DPreview http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3838380?page=4
Edit comment, give credit to the guy who made it, cause its really great pic, and because its fair thing to do.
I had done so before you made your comment. I received this picture without knowing where it came from.
Thanks for the acknowledgement
Giving up the 36MP count today would be a mistake. 12/24/36 makes a good line and can be improved e.g. with better RAW or better high ISO for the 36MP cam. Better put the 50MP into a heavy studio cam and apply it later to the smaller cams when tech reached all-round level.
+1
Keep it 36MP and stuff it with IBIS, PDAF, EFCS, A7II body type, etc. and it’s a winner.
Don’t mess it up with 50+ MP unless this is achieved via pixel shifting or some other special add-on technology technique.
I am waiting for Alpha 7s II with sensor shift (would be amazing vor video and photo) 😀
I think an announcement is coming sooner than you think… maybe a LOT sooner.
Sony posted this picture with ‘stay tuned’ as the comment, seems likely it is related to us here on SAR.
This looks like the shattering of a mirror to me. Could this mean that Sony has found a way to eliminate the mirror in the professional A-mount line of cameras? I hope so!
That’s pretty much what everyone on the post thinks (well that it is mirrorless related).
not just a shattering of a mirror… but high resolution of the shattering!
maybe high speed shattering too… but that’s probably far fetched… unless… A9!
Where did SOny post this? Can you link it?
Facebook. Sorry I don’t have a link close to hand.
Facebook Sony or Sony US or somethign else? 🙂
I have found it:
https://www.facebook.com/sonyxaustralia
An Australian Sony community.
thanks!
Why did you delete those comments?
Are you insane?
On request of the poster.
Ja ja… sicher…
So conflicting rumors are that this camera will be 36, 48, 56 or 59mp.
I would consider buying a high mp version plus the 90mm macro and some adaptors.
A few things that would make that decision easier would be new updated A mount adapter…even better if it fast focuses without mirror
And Canikon adapters with fast autofocus..mayby laea4 type or better yet compatable without mirror.
I hope they could match the early july ship date of the 90mm macro so I could actually get some use out of it this season.
I suspect when Nikon releses a ff F mount mirrorless it may have the same sensor as this camera but be fully F mount compatable.
A true universal compatability with most lenses that is also fully AF compatable would cement Sony mirrorless lead so the competition cannot catch up.
The ability to shoot without an adapter would still be an insentive to buy E mount lenses, even thogh Canon and Nikon users could use them with thier lenses too.
How can rumors be conflicting? They are rumors no facts. this is an SR3 rumor, so probably not true at all….
And you are claiming that the Nikon mirrorless with F-mount would distroy Syn as leader in the mirrorless market, but look at the facts. It is the APS E-mount that makes Sony big in mirrorless, not the FF E-mount cameras. At Amazone, top selling list there are (at this moment 8 APS E-mount cameras before the first FF E-mount arrives (at #16).
The Nikon mirrorless will be (when it is a nativee F-mount camera) a lot larger then the Sony FF mirrorless cameras as this will be a DSLR without mirror (like the Pentax k-01, also a huge success wasn’t it? You can’t remember? Well Pentax wants to forget it too!)
Mirrorless has to have some features (like size and weight) that stands it appart from the DSLRs, otherwise people buy the DSLR as that is proofen technology.
Barry, you’re still here? We thought you left for Canon land. Their low dynamic range is calling.
we dont want a 50+ sensor!!! we want 36 max, at least i
Look at barry, he does not agree with you…
i can make up my own mind, i dont need 50+ , i need high ISO greatness
Who’s we?
You schizophrenic?
read the last part of my post where it says “at least i” 😉 Good lad
50MP + shift sensor = _____ MP? solve math here 🙂
Simply: 50MP the shift sensor technology will not improof the lenses, so the change that you get realy better IQ is very small. I personaly think that even the differences between the 36 and 50+ sensor will not be that impressive when people stop being happy with those MPs
Really? Could you pls. explain how you think the shift sensor works?
Shift sensor technology takes a number of pictures, like HDR, and between the pictures the sensor is moved 1/2 a pixel to the left (or right) and up (or down) in this way you can get more resolution out of a sensor. Big limmitations at the moment are: Subject and camera may not move a mm between the shots, or the extra resolution is lost, The lens must be able to outresolve the sensor, or the effect will not be a lot too.
This technology is especialy used by Olympus and Pentax who don’t have the high res. sensors, and by Hasselblad (only for studio pictures).
In real life this technology is that limmited that it is for most of us useless. The 50+mp sensor is a better way to get more resolution, as it get the high res in one shot, but it comes with it’s own limmitations (like vibration from the shutter and the photographer,so to use it to the full you still need a good tripod.
In the end you need a superlative lens and a good tripod in any case ;).
You need a superlative lens to resolve 400 megapixels, but not to resolve 100 megapixels (in the centre of the image).
You are almost there, forgot to mention that you can have Full color with the sensor shift. Just like the old Sigma Merril ones.
Having 50MP with lenses that barely can go even in the center to that resolution makes the resolution pursuit quite questionable, only OTUS performance lenses can really take advantage of that.
That’s nonsense – the 1970s Olympus OM 50mm f/1.8 that I bought for $10 is tack sharp in the centre on the A7R.
Corners are another thing, but centre resolution just wont be a problem for a 50MP sensor. This is very easy to demonstrate by looking at the results from 24MP APS-C sensors.
Yeah, im talking about the high res mode, we could be talking at almost 180mp in this mode with a 50mp sensor not sure this will be advantangeous for luminance resolution.
Someone on FredMiranda did a test using a Canon 70-200 on a Pentax Q body, the results looked ok in the centre. The Pentax Q is a 12MP interchangeable lens camera with a 5.7x crop factor, so the equivalent FF sensor would be 376 megapixels!
Cool, i would like to see it, but 5.7x is in the very center where is the sharpest portion of the lens. it decreases quickly to to mid center. And you said it looked ok, but he did a test proving that every pixel was distinguisheable? If not its not a true resolution test. i only can guess that with 400 mpx you will see at 1:1 so much CA thats it will interfere too much.
I couldnt find that topic on fred miranda.
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/z/1174659/1
not good enough from what i read.
The lens achieves at least 10% contrast at 376MP, you would expect contrast at 100MP to be much higher. The thread I was thinking of had a post by the same author featuring an image of a duck that whilst soft was not unacceptably soft, and certainly much sharper than most people would think for a 376MP sensor!
Thanks for the information.
You clearly have no idea how pixel shifting works 😉
you can calculate this way, conventional bayer RGB only read true resolution from its green pixel,meaning if it is 59mp, the true resolution should be 29.5, the other 29.5 is basically, by guess. but if you shift the sensor for multiple shots, you will have the lost 29.5 back. so it becomes real 59mp again,
I’m just really hoping that they announce a new A mount adapter at the same time, they have better auto focus Technology ready to use so why not up date it?
I would hope they do also, but suspect as long as there is a market for A-Mount cameras the adapter will be held back, but hope don’t.
If true, this could be the reason why Canon was in such a hurry to announce a 50Mp camera back in Jan which won’t even be released before summer! They’re afraid to loose more customers to Sony.
A limited number of customers at least here in Germany have received their 5DsR.
Even between Canon fans it is not uncontroversal due to its usage limitations.
But, yes, I agree. Canon rushed to be become the first bringing 50+MP to the FF market.
Absolutely they did.
anything on
new rx100 ?
or 4/3 compact (by zony) ?
What happened to rumors of the A9? Wasn’t that supposed to be announced around May? There’s been no mention of that recently…
Maybe July, or August, and probably September. Been waiting for this 50mp cam month after month after month….
Maybe Sony delayed the announcement to have enough time to pre-produce the first 100.000 expected orders. 🙂
Oh no, a whole couple of months! While everyone else has been sitting on 50+MP for years us poor lowly Sony shooters keep waiting and waiting 😛
… next year.
At least somebody noticing 🙂
The funny thing is, 50MP+ is INEVITABLE! We will be getting it, there is NO doubt whatsoever that higher resolutions are coming and will be here before we know it.
Strange… the rumors are from a almost 60mpx and the guy talks about a 50mpx sensor.
It’s possible, but strange. If true, hopping for a new world record in dynamic range.
9 and 0 are side by side on the keyboard. Propably a typo.
i don’t think so in this case…
Ja sicher. Er wollte das man seine Kommentare nicht liest.
Held back for 50mp
Thank-you Canon!
More than leaks and rumors, I think the fact that it wasn’t launched side by side with the A7II, probably means they’re going for higher resolution. If they were keeping the same sensor, as they did with the A7II, why wouldn’t they launch it at the same time?
And when I look at the 45 degree angle eye lashes I see jaggies. Can anyone say upscale?
These “jaggies” are just mascara on the lashes. Haven’t you ever looked a lady up close and personal ?
I hope it will be an updated 36 mp, I do not want to upgrade my macbook… 🙂