The NEX-5r has been announced almost one year ago (on August 29). And for Sony time this means that a replacement is not very far away. A SAR reader wrote me the following message: “Just heard a bit of news when sent my NEX 5R for repairing. Since my cam has serious damage I consider getting a new one but the official repair company representative here in Northern Europe told me, that to get on my hands on Nex 5R I have to be quick, because they are taking it off production in June.”
Lately I pushed the A-mount rumors but I will soon post some more E-mount rumors too. Keep in mind that the NEX-7 successor, the 85mm f/1.4 and a fast zoom should be announced by end of August!
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Does seem this way. Am trying to do price comparison on the Sony NEX 5RL and most places are out of stock and only leaving ebay sellers coming up in results most of the time.. always a clear sign stock is being shifted to make way for something new..
That’s the routine upgrade. I expect the replacement may use the new 20MP sensor as A58 using. However, since the new sensor is not impressive I prefer to keep the conventional 16MP. If Sony dares to go to the adventure, I suggest Sony to remove the AA-filter and use the new Hanomi image engine. Let’s wait and see.
NEX 5R & NEX 6 are perfect 4 different use, now no reasons 4 an uptade, it will be a big mistake.
Why? Do you think, the 5R and the 6 can not be improved!?
Why? Do you think, the 5R and the 6 can not be improved!?
just marketing, no needed.
85 1.4??!?! Wasnt it 85 1.8 OSS? 1.4 will we way too big… 🙁
f/1,4 for the 85mm! argh! could be a great lense, but for me who expect a compact 85mm, it’s not a good thing: a so wide apertune will certainly mean a big lense!!!
f/1,8 or f/2 would be far enough for me.
The NEX6 came only one month after the NEX5-R. does this mean we can also expect a NEX-6 update for this year? that would be great…
that would be unpleasant to get an updated NEX-5R and not NEX-6 as those camera are like brothers: exactly the same technology generation.
I highly doubt that replacement is coming any time soon. Sony stated earlier that ONLY camera released this year will be NEX7 replacement. So maybe in 2014, but not this year. Moreover, look at 55-210mm lens – we heard rumors that they are clearing stocks for replacement – it was several months ago and still no lens. So, I guess – all this stock clearance means no more than just usual price drop to stay on top of market.
How about the new release of RX-cameras??
rumors coming soon dont’ worry!
Is the 85mm a NEX lens? From Sony?
I hope this time the body will have at least the height of the kit lens.
Is it true, F1.4 aug13? An e mount?
Size needs to stay where it is. If you want a bigger body get a 6 or a 3N.
I don’t fancy partial protrusions, different volumes and levels. But sometimes it is a matter of taste of course. (and i have to confess – i love her)
I’m tending to believe that rumor, since I’m checking the prices of the NEX-5RL for a while, where recently some big sellers sold the white model with a bigger price drop and it’s now out of stock. But I do wonder since NEX-5R and NEX-6 are techically identical and far from outdated, while mostly an improved sensor, new JPEG-engine and GPS are left to justify a new model.
Still no news about 7N?
Any rumors abt the upcoming “fast zoom ” for the e-mount ??
Are the mentioned lenses for A- or E-mount? Especially the fast zoom would be so nice!!!
Funny, right now everybody is complaining about a too fast 85f14!
Are those the same people who are ever since ranting about to slow lenses e. g. the Sel-35f18?
^^
It’s not about the speed factor, it’s about the weight and Size… 1.8 is the sweetspot, from then on it’s twice the glass, for less than twice light gathering 😐
I’d rather have 1,8 OSS.
Hm, a 85/1.4 on a nex would be a heavy piece.
Andrea, is it a NEX lens you are talking about or an A-Mount successor?
I think it’s NEX lens – it was on roadmap long time ago.
`fast zoom should be announced by end of August!` WOW
Fast zoom means f2.8 at least on the wider end. I think high-grade G zoom will be around 16-80mm f2.8-f3.5(f4), but it will be almost the size of 55-210 (judging from the images posted long time ago). I still would prefer high IQ over size.
If they only produce the cameras for 1 year it’s totally ridiculous i.m.o. should at least be 3 years to make some sense and build up trust
No wonder that manufacturers like IKELITE won’t support Sony if their cameras have such short lifetime… so this is a nice way to screw 3rd party manufacturers
P.S. admin please enable editing of posts
Just for the record: When was Pana G5 introduced and right now we already have a G6?
Why, again, is everybody complaining about the 1.4 and on ther other hand whining about the 1.8?
According to the rumors before , I think NEX-7 successor is the only one new machine of Ａ mount and E mount . I’m confused now !
I mean in this year.
An 85mm *f1.4*? And a fast zoom??!!
Those are *EXACTLY* the next 2 lenses I’d want, and I’d be sure to buy them.
They’d fill a great hole in the e-mount line-up, and would, IMO, make the e-mount lens line-up much, much more competitive with Fuji’s.
The 85 1.4 would be used for portrait work, and the fast zoom would be used for photojournalistic type shots. Neither one of these lenses need to be too small.
Those looking for small lenses already have other options with the 50mm 1.8 (use your feet to get closer) and the PZ 16-50.
Those of us with a need for really fast glass will be fine with a little extra size. And it’s not just about the (minimal) difference in light gathering – it’s about the ability to create more separation (and better bokeh) – let’s not compromise that on a portrait and photojournalist lens… the 2 lenses that need it most.
Well done Sony! Please get these to me asap!! 🙂
People asking for a 2.8-3.5 or 4 16-80 zoom… it aint gonna happen… that’d be ridiculously big.
Look at fuji’s 18-55 2.8-4 , It’s rather big already.
Santiago – what do you mean “it ain’t gonna happen”? Sony has normal (slow) zoom already starting at f3.5 at the wider end. Now Sony has a roadmap for fast zoom (G) – shoudn’t it be at least a little bit faster than f3.5? If so, there’s only one option to start at f2.8 at the wider end, right? I mean logically (because no one does f3.0 or f.3.2)? Now if you Google about G zoom – you will see a famous photo of NEX lens lineup (old photo dating 2011-12). There you can see a black lens with G mark – only G lens promised so far on roadmap is G zoom. Yes, it’s size is just slightly less than 55-210 – but as I said before high IQ is preferable over size.
Now if you mean focal range 16-80 isn’t possible – that’s also rumored to be around 16(18) – 70 (80) – nothing impossible about it. I doubt that Sony will make G zoom only 18-55mm.
So keep in mind that we already have 2! zooms 16-50 and 18-55 – do you think Sony will make it’s only G zoom a third!!! zoom in the same range? Do you think they are that rich?
Lenses shown in the past were mockups… look at how the 24mm zeiss changed.
I’m just saying that 16-80 range, (wider and more tele than the fuji) at the same speed, with HIGH QUALITY GLASS and not the same as in the pancake lens or tele lens (which is nothing to write home about) is going to be huge.
I’d rather have a shorter range, a better glass, and a nice speed. But hey, that’s just me 🙂
16-32 f2.8 would be sufficient for me. Sony can cover the other half with a 24-58f2.8 or maybe a 24-70f2.8
by the way… any way the zooms turns out to be, I’m buying it.
The nex 5n will be a small upgrade because it is not thier high end nex.
O wait I forgot Sony will only make major upgrades from now on!
I may need to change my definition of major game changing advancement.
Perhaps one that includes a major game changing upgrade in thier high end camera from 24mp to 30mp.
That’s a “REAL GAME CHANGING ADVANCEMENT”
I’ll have to fine tune my new definition a bit. It doesn’t work for me yet.
Mayby I don’t have to redefine anything? Mayby I’m not hearing the truth? Mayby just wisfull thinking.?
a 6mp increase wouldn’t be really game changing. Simple Math (assuming square sensors for the sake of simplicity):
4000x4000pixel=16mp
5000x5000pixel=25mp
6000x6000pixel=36mp
So in terms of “printing power” a 36mp image will print 1.5 times taller and 1.5 wider. I suspect this may not be relevant to many people.
I mean a 36mp compared to 16mp. Of course, the difference between 24 and 30 will be even smaller and irrelevant in practical terms.
Less than 8% increase in resolution from 24 to 30mp.
An increase from 24mp to 54mp would be a 50% increase in resolution.
The 85mm is f/1.4? I sure hope not. It’ll will be huge. I just want it to be compact and f/2 please.
Let’s settle on 1.8? please. The DOF idfference is noticable. I agree 1.4 is impractical on NEX. The Samsung NX is excellent proof that 85/1.4 is not cool on small camera.
Sony can definetly do better than a bunch of chinese engineers just starting careers in the field of imaging. Not that Samsung engineers are bad or china engineers are bad just that experience of finding the right balance comes wiht experience and I am sure that Samsung reflecting on their not so glorious past will opt for 85/1.8 if they were to produce another NX lens ever.
Kiril, I hope you know that Samsung is a Korean company, not Chinese. However, I agree Sony should and can come up with much better engineering than Samsung who just started in this business.
An 85mm macro would be a fantasticly usefull lens.
There are currently no tele-macro lenses for nex.
This a reason why I’m moving away from Sony. They release new cameras too fast and it just seems like each Camera they release is not final. Seems like they are just releasing beta builds. I was about to get a RX1 but decided that after a few more months the price would drop once a new model is out. Seems like the best way to buy a Sony is wait a year.
I don’t know a lot about other companies but seems like others have slower updates so their cameras don’t depreciate as fast either.
You don’t really need the latest to be great. It’s all about your photography
and maybe your lenses. I have Nex-5N and never regret nor demanding the newer NEXes.
That 85/1.4 however is wicked
I know I don’t need the best. The problem is “when do you buy it”?
Do I go buy a RX1 and 2 months later a new one is released and this one gets a massive price drop?
Look at the Fujifilm X100 (2011) and X100s (2013). They are 2 years apart (I know they are different systems). I think it gets a little out of hand when NEX 3,5,6,7 are taking turns to be released so quickly. According to Wiki I counted 9 NEX cameras since June 2010. I’m glad they slowed down the NEX7 and stopped releasing new A mount cameras till next year.
I’m new to Photography and walking into a Sony store last xmas was overwelming because they had like 20+ different camera models and they all mostly had the same stats.If a new RX200 and RX10 comes out this year it’ll just butt heads with the NEX system and confuse buyers like me. I bought and returned a RX100 and a SLT a65 before settling on a NEX-5R. What I should have gotten was the NEX-6 but I’m still on the fence if I like a Fixed EVF or the attached EVF I have for the NEX-5R.
Now I’m shopping for a 2nd camera because I like to have 1 prime and then a zoom. I have a lot of E-mount lens so I’m thinking of a NEX-7 or a NEX-3n, but then what will the next alpha cameras be like (and now a new 5 to think about)? In the meantime, I am thinking about transitioning over to Full Frame A-mounts (for future proofing when all digital become FF). I have put a hold on all purchases until 2014.
Now after writing all this I think the problem lies in myself. I should just get a RX1 or RX2 or RX10 and not worry about lens and just be happy.
just get a nex-6. its the best nex camera out at the moment.You also get more freedom to add a wireless trigger for off camera flash and still have the evf. I use two nex-6 and radio triggers. I only shoot with primes so I use a wide angle on one and a tele on the other.
Everything becomes old and obsolete, just gotta let go at some point…you won’t remember the savings years from now but will prob have some awesome photos you can look back on. Same thing with people who upgrade their phones every year, it’s kind of pointless.
I agree. There is no reason to jump onto any new Sony product because they will dump it within a year even if it gets great reviews. It’s no longer worth the time or money and if you really want their products, we save more than 50% by being 1 year behind the release cycle since their products don’t hold any value. It’s a shame how they just give away their market to Canon and Nikon.
Sony seems a electronic devices maker rather than a camera maker. All of their movement makes sense in terms of a electronic devices maker,lol. I decide to switch to Fuji, because they seems to have passion in making real cameras. Sony just keeps revising their current lenses such as 18-200mm, two or three 16-55mm lenses. Are these lenses really that old? If people want to use more prime lenses in reasonable price, I think Fuji is a better choice.
Bets they call it the Sony Nex 5s!
For me, I hope :
a G zoom 2.8 16-50mm
A firmware with at least new lenses compensation and new honami jpeg engine
For me, I hope :
nex 5r with nex3n width dimensions
24 to 54mp would be a 50% increase in resolution.
Sorry but G fast zoom must be at least f2.8-f3.5 (18-80) . What is the point to make another dark zoom ? We have 16-50 ,18-55, 18-200 If for someone size is problem 16-50 and 18-55 is ready . I do not want them , they are too dark for me . I want very good quality fast zoom with oss . Sony nex line is 3 or 4 for years now . This is very long time , and I just do not understand why sony did not make fast zoom yet !!! Shame !!! I am mad !!! Do not forget it , nex line is not just still photo , it is camcorder as well , like vg10,20,30 ,fs100, fs700 we need fast high quality zoom . Why E-mount ? Because all of alpha,nikon,canon zoom ring is not smooth . And focus ring is also far away what is wish to see . Of course they all made for photo not for video . E-mount lens are different they are good for still and video . The true is all users of nex system needs fast zoom .
I agree. However, not only G zoom needs to be fast – it should be high IQ, otherwise no point in just fast zoom with IQ that is nothing to write home about. Glass in the lens should be high grade glass – we need to be on par, if not better than FUJI 18-55 zoom – which is very good indeed. Sony you can do better than FUJI with G zoom.
I don’t need any more NEX bodies. But I do need that 85/1.4 or 1.8 prime. And also high quality zoom lenses are welcome. E-mount series still doesn’t have fast stand zoom and a lens that is comparable to 70300G from A-mount. That’s a long time wait already. Sony, work harder please.
Where your “i dont need any more NEX bodies” will be when you discover your new f/1.4 prime is very slow to focus on old bodies and quick or newer?
but my friend in sony camera says there will only be one more new NEX this year, which is the successor of NEX-7
and the successor of NEX-5R will have a 1800W new CMOS with phase detection, and maybe an upgraded new BIONZ, which is hard to tell ’cause he says they never changed the name but they did upgrade the chip…
interesting. the main thing about the NEX line is the compact size and now people are screaming for lenses that would probably be rather large and heavy? If you want to stick several kilograms of high-end optics (and I’m fairly sure there’s a good reason these lenses are large and heavy) in front of your NEX, aren’t there adapters to use, as an example, Canon EF lenses (or 3rd party equivalents) like the 85/1,4, 24-70/2,8, 70-200/2,8 and so on? or even adapters to use sony alpha glass with a nex body? Isn’t that the true beauty of the system? Why complain about sony not producing a specific lens when there are lenses and adapters to get there without sony having to produce a lens which will be criticized for being overpriced and underperforming anyway?
I need Water resistant body and objectives, so a Nex 5 or 6 or 7 WR. I do not take pictures only by sunny weather . A 400mm will also be great for animal photographie, that semms crazy but APS -C camera are quite heavy and take place, need also a heavy stativ. You kann spare a lot of weight and place with the Nex. The old Vectis from Minolta had all of that I would be happy to find in the Nex 🙂
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