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(SR3) A6100 has no 4K yet?

The rumor comes from an old source who shared correct info in the past. After two-year absence he contacted me back. This doesn’t mean we can be sure the info he shares is correct. As it happened in the past also those kind of source may get wrong info from their contacts. Anyway, this is what he wrote to me:

“there’s no A7000 (NEX-7 replacement), but rather an A6000 replacement coming soon. The A6100 has 24.3MP with 1080p XAVCS codec, so looks like no 4K for now. But this is just the info from the importer, so not 100% confirmed :-/“

So far the rumors are that new E-mount stuff will come soon: The A7rII will be very likely announced in May. The A6100 may come son the same event or a month later in late June.

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  1. Maybe because to have good 4K, they would use the NEX-7 replacement to compete with the NX1 in its price range.

    1. Stop reflexing about ugly NEX7. It will never be a NX1 replacement because of camera body, touchscreen…

  2. Many of us don’t shoot video at all and don’t care about 4K.
    I’m sure they will release a 4K APS-C E-mount camera at some point, but they need to make it as a separate model like the a7s.

  3. People, waiting and waiting for …..
    It seems like there is a small Sony upgrade again!
    just upgrading the processor won’t be enough.
    I hope the 4k info is wrong.
    what about Level gauge and touchscreen

  4. Apart from IBIS and 4K, what is the A6000 missing that would justify an upgrade?

    I’d like to see all of the cameras get a feature that ties focus assist (magnification and/or focus peaking) to face/eye detect for use with legacy and manual focus lenses.

      1. Both would be good additions. Touchscreen is very useful. Strange that Sony hasn’t done that yet.

      2. Both mentioned PLUS: Silent shutter mode, better image scaling in video mode (moiré and aliasing free – Like the 1080P mode on the A7s or RX10), XAVC-S (still not present in the A6000), live-bulb mode maybe (love that on the Olympus) AND yes – IBIS would be great (also 4K and audio jacks) ^^.

    1. Well electronic shutter(where you do not use the mechanical shutter at all. A big deal for timelapse junkies

    2. – XAVC
      – Strengthened all-metal mount from the A7 II – very handy for the FE 70-200 and 90mm macro
      – Upgrade to the higher quality A7 II paint finish. I hate that smooth shiny crap.

      Could not care less about 4K right now.
      IBIS would obviously be a good addition.

    3. I’d like
      – improvement in start-up time
      – further improvement of AF, especially in limited light
      – more robust build, similar to A7-to-A7II improvements
      – maybe IBIS, but not if it would hurt compactness and battery life too much

  5. I care much for IBIS. I plan to buy a E-mount APS-C with IBIS to apapt my A-mount full frame telephoto len.

  6. Then what about the rumor that we got sometime back

    “(SR4) A6xxx (or A7000) camera launch has been delayed (seems because of 4K heat issues)”

    Which is true? and ofcourse “All are rumors” 🙂

    1. that was a highly reliable source sharing that info! The A6000 was scheduled to be released earlier (April). Now I guess it will be released in June…

  7. And no TOUCHSCREEN of course! It’s a NOSY…

    I really want touchscreen and stabilizer inside? 4k is good, but not critical if price will be low. But NX500 has 4k… damn!

    1. touchscreen is nice, but useless when you use viewfinder only. for people accustomed to spending 99% of time at the VF, it’s just an added cost without any value. there are many points of view, but I don’t miss touchscreen a lot.

      1. Let it be! Just turn it off if you don’t need it. I can’t turn it on if it’s not exist in NEX6-7-6000, and should still use NEX-5 lineup 5N-5T but want to be able to use some advanced features of 6000 like AF and flash port

      2. You can use touch screen first to set the focus point, then move to EVF if you like. This is still quicker than focus magnification in A7 and then use the scroll wheels. Still can scroll a little with touch screen if you need to correct something while on the EVF. But current scroll wheel for focus magnification in A7 takes ages compared to the touchscreen in the Nex-5T etc.

        This would be my number one reason to upgrade, before IBIS even.

    2. Touchscreen and viewfinder are kinda mutually exclusive at least with automatic switchover to evf. Because how can the camera distinguish between a finger or the eye/nose near the evf eye sensor? Thats why no evf camera by sony has touch.

  8. Dear Sony: please keep the price of the A6000 lineup aggressive and save 4K for a step up model. The A6000 is probably the best deal in mirrorless — a real gateway drug

      1. Samsung is coming on strong, I think. I don’t like the form factor, but their new NX1 sounds pretty hot.

          1. Samsung and Sony are both huge companies who are innovating feverishly. That’s why I think, like Nikon and Canon once were, they will be the two dominant players in a few years.

          2. You are right, but don’t underestimate Canon:

            They have already a mirrorless-mount – and it is the best mirrorless mount on the market now: Has same 18mm flange as Sony, but a bigger diameter. With FF-lens design the small Sony diameter caused some problems.

            They are already making STM-driven lenses – this is the counterpart to Sonys FE-lens AF motors. And unless A-mount lenses, the EF-STM lenses can be adapted without any mirror in the adapter, retaining full AF speed.

            They already have fast on sensor AF technology, called dual-pixel-AF.

            All techology, necessary for a A7-competing mirrorless is right now tested in the field. I think when mirrorless catch up DSLR-sales (~end 2017), Canon will just release some bodies, that can easily compete with A7 lineup.

          3. The EOSM lenses are supposedly quite good, and the newest camera a big leap. But if Canon waits until 2017 to make serious mirrorless play, it will be game over.

          4. I think Canon could release right now a professional mirrorless body, if they want to.

            The question is, when they want to do. If there are rumors of a powerful Canon mirrorless system, being capable to replace FF-DSLRs, they might have the same problem as Sony:
            “OMG – EF-mount is dying!!!! – Should I invest any more in this?”

            As long as DSLRs are making much more money than all mirrorless-systems together, Canon won’t let their mirrorless rival against their market-leading DSLR-system.
            I don’t know what is best strategy for Canon to introduce pro-mirrrorless bodies. But I am quite sure, Canon knows what they are doing and what they are telling the press.

          5. I agree. As the biggest and most profitable camera manufacturer by a wide margin, they clearly know how to run their business. But the business is changing. It remains to be seen if they can hold on to the DSLR just long enough and then still dominate in mirrorless by jumping over at the right time. As an enthusiastic consumer who no longer wants DSLRs, it is frustrating, but understandable.

          6. I think when Canon makes a proper mirrorless camera, all review sites will start pi**sing blood from excitement. Sony must make an E-Mount body, that is AF compatible with A-Mount glass through LA-EA3 adapter.

            If they don’t, and if Canon makes their entire USM lens range AF compatible with their new mirrorless body, it will be game over as you just can’t compete against such a large selection of glass. Sure, some of it isn’t exactly new, but it EXISTS, and that’s the key in this game.

          7. But those lenses are massive so not a huge draw and they are far behind in sensor tech which is crucial…

          8. Those are the market shares in Japan, the one market where Samsung doesn’t sell cameras.

            Globally, Samsung is supposedly #2 in mirrorless after Sony. (M4/3 is #2 if you add up Olympus’ and Panasonic’s market shares).

      2. Samsung NCX1 is the top rated apsc mirrorless camera..and their 28mp bsi sensor far outperforms the 24 mp apsc Exmor sensor in almost every performance catagory.
        The lack of lenses is currently an issue for Samsung….but make no mistake Samsung is a serious future threat to Sony…and thier products seem to be specifically desighned to compete for SONY customers.
        Do not underestimate Samsung.

        1. “and their 28mp bsi sensor far outperforms the 24 mp apsc Exmor sensor in almost every performance catagory.”

          NOT TRUE.
          Stop trolling.

        2. You’re comparing A6000 to another camera that is over twice its price.

          For 1200 dollars I would never buy Samsung, there are vastly superior cameras out there at that price point.

        3. The Samsung NX1 is also the top priced APS camera. It is also one of the largest APS mirrorless cameras. Personaly I don’t need 4K (Full HD is more then I need too). The Samsung is a good camera, but for many it is to expensive and to large. The smaller NX500 is to limmited, has no EVF and is features are taken down (like the 4K cideo is less good then in the NX1 to an extend that is is only a thing on the box…

        4. The difference between the A6000 and NX1 is quite small (sensor wise) and the Nikon D7200 has, apparently, a newer 24mp sensor that has incredible dynamic range. An updated A6000 with such a sensor would be terrific, especially if the high ISO noise performance can be improved. Heck, maybe the same type of improvements are going to be incorporated in the mythical A7RII. Who really knows? The good thing, of course, is that great performance can be had from a wide variety of manufacturers, at a wide variety of prices.

          1. The Samsungs 28mp bsi c size sensor orutperforms any c size sensorp sSony makes including the one in the d7200.
            Sony still uses exmor instead of exmor r …bsi.. for thier larger sensors therefore the technology they choose to put into these sensors is inferior to the newer bsi technology…which Sony does use for many of thier smaller sensors.
            Sony can easily jump ahead of the competition if they choose to.
            Simply make a 32 or 36mp apsc Exmor R sensor, and a 78mp ff Exmor R sensor .
            Sony could reclaim bragging rights to highest resolution, best dynamic range etc. Over both the leaders like Canon, and the rising from behind threats like Samsung with a move like I describe.
            This move does not require any new technology, and smaller Sony bsi sensors already exceed the resolution….pixel density…necessarry to do this.

          2. The NX1 sensor does not exceed the D7200 in dynamic range, at least according to DXO. Additionally, while the NX1 sensor is “better” than the sensor in the A6000, it is not significantly so.

    1. Sony vs Samsung is nothing more than the battle for #3, always will be. The big 2 have a user base that’s just too big to overcome.

        1. Your analogy is flawed – mirrorless isn’t a paradigm shifting tech like the smartphone was – smartphone sales surpassed the competition in just 4 years. Mirrorless is still just a fraction of DSLR’s in 5 years, its never going to pass DSLR’s because its a relatively minor change that gives you a sort of smaller camera with inferior AF. It was about DSLR IQ in a smaller size like the Nex5n – until the FE 16-35, 70-200 and 35/1.4 surfaced. Now you pay more for less – seriously $1600 for the 35/1.4 that’s bigger and more than 2x the price of the stellar Sigma Art.

          Look at CIPA numbers – mirrorless sales peaked 3-years ago, declined a bit the following year and have remained flat. DSLR sales are predictable dropping after a decade long boom – its called market saturation. Most of the people that have bought a DSLR in the last 5 or 6 years are casual photographers and now have a camera that’s more than enough for a few holidays and occasional kid-pics, there’s no reason to upgrade.

          1. Right. It’s easy for anyone to see what a smartphone offers over a regular cell phone, so it was a fast takeover.

            The market hasn’t responded to mirrorless in the same way, because it’s not obvious to most consumers in what way a MILC is better than a DSLR. Many still think of them as ‘compact cameras’, and perceive DSLRs to be more ‘serious’.

            The real paradigm shift in photography is not from DSLR to mirrorless, it’s from dedicated cameras to mobile devices. That’s why most of the R&D money in digital imaging today is spent on sensors, lenses and image processing for the mobile, automotive and security markets.

          2. The only real advantage mirrorless offered was size, there are no performance gains for the average shooter and it’s a step backwards for many pros. With better lenses getting bigger and much more expensive on the mirrorless side, it’s never going to get traction with casual shooters – the reason for the DSLR boom. I own the NX1 and have owned or used the GH3/4, EM5, A7/s and the Nex5n/7 as a part-time stills/video pro, alongside the 5d2/3 and more recently the D750. DSLR’s as a whole are just get the job done better, especially when it comes to getting the shot because of AF.

      1. Well that is for now in the DSLR market. When you look at mirrorless, there Canon and Nikon are the companies that are fighting for the last and the one but last place…. And believe it or not, mirrorless will become the #1 selling cameras in about 10 years. Look who are then the big players, and whio is then fighting for #3!

        1. I’m glad you can see into the future. What else is coming? Can you also give me the winning lottery numbers? When it becomes a profitable venture CaNikon will drop a real mirrorless camera with a EF or F mount to take advantage of the 200 million AF lenses that have already been produced between them. Until then, why build cameras to lose money like Olympus, Panasonic and Sony?

  9. Just wonderingd if the a7rii .will have 36mp sensor or more?
    Interestingly Nikon is supposedly field testing a ff mirrorless f mount camera for late 2015 or early 2016 release.
    If true it seems possible that the Sony a9 and the new Nikon might arrive around the same time and share the same higher mp sensor or mayby another Nikon exclusive and the a9 may come later…..this is a guess on my part, not based on new rumorus.

        1. Why indeed, I am sure that a FF mirrorless the size of an FE2/FM2 with an F mount would be very popular

      1. Actually it will be a huge success with Sony A mount users who like the idea of mirrorless but dislike being forced to switch to E mount.
        Nikon has said that if they make ff mirrorless it will be a top notch professional camera capable of operating in the Nikon environment. …I interpret that as fully compatable with current Nikon F ,mount lenses.

        Other than the fact that I said this, so you have to dissagree …what real reason do you have for thinking the Nikon would fail.

        1. I agree. Using the current lens lineups would be a great way for both Canon and Nikon to get into the mirrorless space in a meaningful way.

          1. Yeh, just like Pentax did. There K-0 was a huge success, it sweapt away all other mirrorless cameras, didn’t it?
            And to Barry, with the A7 peopel where not forced to switch to E0mount, the got a wide range of adapters to almost any lens mount in the world. When they want fast AF there is the LA-EA4 adapter for A-mount lenses.
            Maybe Sony will come with an E-mount camera that can adapt A-mount lenses and do fast AF without the TLM. Maybe Nikon will do the same, come with a FF mirrorless camera that can adapt their DSLR lenses but is at the same time a camera with a small flange distance….

          2. Maybe, but I don’t think the Pentax is a good example. It had no EVF and a pretty radical design (which many, me included don’t like).

        2. So A-mounters would be forced to switch to Nikon instead. That is hardly a solution.

          As I’ve said before, a mirrorless camera that uses a legacy DSLR mount is compromised from the very beginning. It’s not as flexible and it’s not possible to create cameras as compact as those from manufacturers who bothered to make a dedicated mirrorless mount.

          Don’t let your ego get the better of you by thinking I only think an F mount mirrorless camera would be a silly idea just because you said it. Besides, you didn’t say it anyway – you are repeating from Nikon Rumors.

      2. I agree as it misses one of the main benefits of flexibility. Then if they have no EVF its also disadvantaged and to me means its an entry level model and it will be compromised.

    1. Again just speculation but perhaps, concerned with Canons claim that they will dominate the mirrorless market in 2016..Sony and Nikon have teamed up to make both a Nikon and Sony ff mirrorless that is autofocus compatable with Nikon F mount lenses..Nikon with native F mount and Sony with E mount to F mount adapter.
      Possibly both companies will provide part of the licencse for a third party to make the adapter?

      1. Canon didn’t even release the EOSM3 globally, so hard to take any claim of their intent to dominate mirrorless seriously. But a FF mirrorless that uses their vast, existing lens lineup would be interesting to me.

        1. I have said many times that the current Canikon mirrorless systems…Nikon 1 and canon M nount….are not the mirrorless systems that will challenge E morunt.
          Both are working on new ff systems…and I believe both will be fully compatable with thier currenmt huge lens lines.
          Pros love thier lenses. ..and will not consider a system unless they can use them.
          The only reason Samsung is not currently kicking Sonys butt is lenses…this is why a Canikon mirrorless that uses all Canikon glass will easily kick Sonys butt … eveqn if the cameras are only of equal quality.

  10. I hope this is wrong … but I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony still thinks consumers don’t need 4K except in their mobile phones. Also a crippled cropped-only-4K-mode like in the NX500 would make a lot of sense for Sony.

    1. NX1 is as big as a Canikon and has 0 lens.

      Maybe I will see the point in a few years but not right now.

    1. I agree. Focussing on FE lenses the last year was understandable, but it has been a year and a half since the last APS-C lens was introduced. Not that there should be new lenses every year, but there are still a lot of gaps in the APS-C line-up (especially fast lenses, tele primes and macro) so one or two new lenses to fill some of the gaps would be nice.

  11. Nex7 replacement clearly isn’t going to happen, it’s been years, let it go. APS-c is now entry level ILC with the more expensive A7’s (and the more expensive FE lenses) being the camera aimed at advanced enthusiasts. Sony isn’t building any more “pro” e-mount APS-c bodies. The a6x000 is clearly going to remain the top crop body.

    4k internal isn’t happening in APS-c of FF either until BionzX is replaced with a better processor. It’ll show up in the next RX10/100 because the smaller sensor doesn’t have overheating issues. The E mount cams get really hot and shut down just recording low bitrate 1080p. Be realistic about expectations, 4k is click bait, not realistic.

      1. Different sensor-size
        Different form-factor
        Disposed popup-flash
        Same number “7”

        Sounds like a replacement 🙂

        1. A quick glance at their respective launch prices tells me all I need to know. That’s what businesses care about, and that’s why Sony see the A7 as the NEX-7 replacement.

        1. They did not say last year they would replace the Nex 7 but that A6000 was replacing both Nex 7 and Nex 6. Unfortunatelly they did not mix all the best parts of them 😉

      1. Codec like h.264 or h.265 is done in HW directly.
        So Chris is right anyway: Sony needs a new processor.

      2. Sony stuck with AVCHD for years – even after it had clearly outlived its usefulness, no way they drop XAVC after a year since its their new and better codec. H265 isn’t going to happen in Sony for a long time.

    1. Well, I jusr await the Canon M3 to show up with integrated viewfinder. If that happens, Sony can keep their stuff, their expensive lenses. I shoot mainly manual, and most AF lenses for Sony system in Apsc are inaproprieated or much too expensive. I await a NEX-7 replacement, but if does not occur, I change the brand. The M3 will also have adapters for all lenses, has focus peaking and some good lenses at correct prices.

  12. Just looked again, and you know what? At Amaozon there are 8 Sony APS cameras in the top 10. Ones Sony FF and 1 Samsung NX300. Not one camera with 4K. That is how important 4K is at the moment. The first 4k Camera is the Samsung NX1 at #28!

    Yeh a real grow market that 4K.

    And just to think about it, this is just a SR3 rumor, not Sony…

      1. 4K will stay and grow, many video producers agree on that. Recording in 4K future proof’s the videos, same as it was with full HD, while HD televisions just started popping out. 4K also offers more freedom while recording as you can crop the videos down to 1080p without loosing any quality. But if you don’t know anything about video production, it’s easy to assume 4K is a fad.

        1. Yes but if it’s all about the video, why would I be buying an A6000 or its replacement anyway? It’s like buying decision on a phone for its camera. Video is a nice add-on but anyone truly serious about high level video isn’t looking at a camera like the A6xx.

        2. How did this beautifully compact, high-performing still camera get its fate tangled up with “video production”?

      2. While I’m not sure 4k will truly launch on tv for quite a while, it is very useful for recording. The video encoding on stills cameras that shoot video has always been a problem. Aliasing, moiré, poor colour resolution and a blotchy image… While we could get proper interpolation and raw video recording like pro cams, 4k is really the only way video quality will improve in stills. Even if you only shoot it to downres to 1080p.

        Also keep in mind that that videos shot on these cameras are typically for Web use. And there are lots of laptops coming with higher than 1080p resolution. 4k desktop monitors are also starting to drop in price.

      3. What is 100% stupid is that 4K content is still non existent, at least in france. Only netflix but well.. highly compressed…
        Ah the only other 4K content I’ve heard it is available here was porn…

        Getting a new TV for the moment is pointless. 4K monitors… well DPI is too high and the windows UI and software UI does not always scale up.

        so there’s no reason it is a key feature in a camera at the moment..

        But 4K is not going to ends up like 3D it is just not ready yet.

        1. The porn industry is actually the driving force for most of the substantial motion picture upgrades over the last 50 years. Video was heavily funded by porn in the late 70s.

      4. It’s even dumber than that – the camera manufacturers are afraid of being shot down by reviewers who have “4K” at the top of their feature check-list. I think the people who would actually use 4K – after the first week of fiddling with it – would all fit on a good sized tour bus.

      5. In small scale video production, it makes sense to shoot in 4k and then downsample to 1080p. This allows for a better noise reduction, or a better post processing for example. But yeah, beyond that, and maybe 4k in news agencies as a pre-prod grade video, i don’t see how 4k could be useful in every day life. It has huge files and no apparent benefit, unless you need to do some crazy stuff in post, which most users don’t do anyways.

      6. All these anti-4k arguments are cut and pasted from the anti-HD arguments from twelve years ago. 4k is better, change is coming, embrace it or be one of those hacks from the last era screaming about, “the average client can’t tell the difference between SD and HD.”

    1. So hardly any manufacturer is putting 4k in their cameras and therefore hardly any 4k cameras are on sales list and your point is?

  13. @Sar_Admin: Why are you that sure that ‘soon’ means June? In my point of view soon could also be May.
    Concerning the specification we just have to wait for the release than we don’t need to speculate.

  14. XAVC + audio-jacks + keep same price point.
    That’s all I need.
    Touchscreen + IBIS welcomed as bonus content.

  15. IMO full-sensor readout (instead of line-skipping) 1080p is MUCH more important than 4k for most-people’s read-world video needs. As I recall, the A5100 actually has this, but the A6000 does not. The A5100 is a non-starter for me because it does not have a viewfinder (and has fewer physical controls). So an A6100 that kept everything from the A6000 but stepped up to full-sensor-readout video and XAVC-S at, say, 25 to 50 mbps would be fine. If you could restore the viewfinder resolution to 1024×768 (‘2.4 m-dot’) from the A6000’s 800×600 (‘1.4 m-dot’), while keeping the faster refresh etc., that would be nice too.

    1. NO, A5100 are still using line skipping.
      You only get full pixel readout from A7s or 1″ sensor or NX1

        1. My biggest annoyance is with the lack of 1/8 inch or 3.5mm microphone port on my a6000, I would buy an a7II just for the port…and of course for the 5-axis stabilization.

          1. Pretty much. I didn’t buy the A6000 for that reason alone. I’m waiting to see if the A6100 has it and if it does I’ll get that and if not then I’m picking up the A7II. Some people have mentioned though the the A6000 sensor overheats when shooting video and causes it to shutdown way before the 29:59 time limit limitation. If this is true, I hope it is fixed on the A6100 and if not I will get the A7II

  16. Seriously I’m expecting Sony to give the α6100 finally XAVC-S plus some minor improvements – even IBIS would surprise me.

  17. Makes sense – there will be no A7000 I suspect – I think we can forget about a NEX7 replacement like A7000 – it will be A6100 then A6100 R then A6100 T etc – I think Sony is using the 7 – for the A7 s/r only so in 5 years there might be A8000 when they run out of A6100 /a6200 etc –
    The A6000 is a super camera but of course could be enhanced –
    What I like to see
    Backlit sensor ( like the NX1 sensor )
    Touch LCD with Touch Shutter
    Flip LCD like that of Olympus OMD-Em5 II
    Improved tracking auto focus
    higer res EVF and LCD
    IBIS 5 axis
    Time Laps

    1. That is exactly what I want to see too!!!

      You can add improved 1080 recording. Decent full HD video without the quirks of A6000 i.e. same as RX10 and then may be few more controls and aids to make nice video.

      Ohhh forgot improved peaking and manual focus aids. They can add something like Panasonic GX7 or Fuji X-T1 where you can zoom and still see the whole frame in small window (or fuji zooms a small window while framing in the majority of the view finder)

      There is very decent time lapse app for A6000. I doubt any other manufacturer offers that level of sophistication in time lapse.

    1. Hey we used to keep film stock in the fridge maybe if you stick a6100 in the freezer for an hour or two that might help and you can always say the condensation on the lens is an artistic effect.

  18. They’re either small sensor like the AX100 or large body like the FS7. Nothing in the large sensor/small body. And they’re not stills cameras, so its a video processing pipeline.

  19. ha-ha while some of you are dreaming of 4K I’m already shooting it with my LX100, Just my 2 cents.

      1. For 4K video i’d definitly choose the LX100. NX500 4K crop is very weird and makes wide angle shots very hard. Is the cropped area even bigger than a 4/3 sensor ?
        😛

      2. good luck with shooting 4k on the samsung NX500 is just a gimmick, it crops the recording area 1.6, its like your shooting video with a zoom lens all the time. forget wide angles with the NX500. if you need in camera 4k in camera go for pana or samsung big brother.

  20. Yes, I agree.
    It is Sony, they will never put everything you want in one camera. 🙂
    They will come with many many camera bodies with slight improvement.
    a6100, a6200, a6300,…….,a6900
    So they can force you upgrade every year, and get as much $$ as possible from your pocket

      1. And it’s our choice to voice our complaints and put the word out that if any other camera maker wants to rectify this, a lot of us are going to take our business elsewhere.

      2. I don’t know photographers in the digital age seem more concerened with tech than actually taking photographs. So much easier in the old days when you bought a camera, a lens, the film to go in it and just photographed stuff. ES OM1 F1 801 had them all and got some good images without worrying about all this extraneous stuff that just seems to get in the way.

  21. The endless, thunderous FF drumbeat has brought camera makers a lot of money but hasn’t changed the fact that many people like their gadgets as small and portable as possible, while still doing the job.

  22. Mobile phone 4k has about the same perceptive resolution as 1080P off a large sensor camera, so it can’t really be compared. And on top of that you must shoot as ISO100 if the quality is of primary concern. Deviate from that and your perceptive resolution is close to 720p, or lower.

    There is a Note 3 vs T5i video review floating somewhere online. Really brings things into a perspective.

    A cropped-only 4k mode would be better than nothing. A 0.7x crop from 24mp = 12mp. That would result in a 1.44x multiplier, which essentially becomes m43 camera in video mode.

    I’m not suggesting that Sony absolutely must do it, but if given a choice of line skipping vs a full sensor readout with a crop, i’d pick a crop mode.

    1. In good, even daylight, the 4k video from my Galaxy Note 4 puts the 1080p video from my Sony a99/Atomos Ninja to shame. Same with most Canon “1080”p cameras, particularly the Mk ii.

  23. ohhh forgot a very important fix to A6100 – uncompressed 14 bit RAW files! Please!

    IBIS, better 1080 recording, better noise is all fine but 14 bit uncompressed RAW will make a dent!

    Much more important than 4K

  24. Any possibility that a new lens will be released along with A6100?
    Perhaps an update to Sony 16-70 f4?

    I want to upgrade to something better than the kit lens and I want the flexibility of a zoom. 18-105 is an excellent value but a little too big in my opinion.

    Should I hold off till A6100 is announced or just buy the 16-70 f4?

  25. no 4K sounds bad. I consider replacement of my A5100 with the camera having the well balanced (with fast autofocus, etc) 4K video capability. A5100 does great photos but video is not up to this standard.
    so far only NX1 has the proper video in combination with the decent photo. but it is not a small camera as A5100 and so far waiting for the adequate offer from sony.
    But If no 4K will come soon at nex line, then yes, shift to NX1 seems inevitable.

  26. Sony keeps sticking all these nice 4k sensors into bodies the size of toys. Of course they’re going to overheat. They need to embrace DSLR-sized bodies again. They could probably do 10 bit internal 4k tomorrow if they’d just get over their a7itis.

  27. Aha so set the focus on touchscreen then move the camera to your face hence making your focus point out of focus…

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