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This is one of the most curious (and highly unlikely to happen) rumors I received the last couple of weeks:
“Sony/Zeiss manufactured by Sony will release a FF camera similar to the [shoplink 23713 ebay]35mm Ikon (here on eBay).[/shoplink] No optical viewfinder. Will be announced before the end of the year. Manual controls. No REAR LCD!!!”
I certainly would like Zeiss to make some “retro” styled E-mount camera. But I really don’t think Zeiss will do that…
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No viewfinder and no rear LCD screen? Unless it has an EVF, this camera will be perfect for people who want to blame their camera for the lousy shot. I see a market for this. Huge, I tell you.
of course EVF, what else?!
What else? No VF:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/472555-REG/Zeiss_1405_150_Ikon_SW_Super_Wide.html
Only Add-on:
https://photo-shop.zeiss.com/epages/cz.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/CZ/Categories/Zubehoer/%22Camera%20Accessories%22
Okay, the Ikon without finder was pretty special. But an EVF would be all you need on a camera, especially one for manual focussing. Reviewing pictures in an EVF is great! On the NEX-7 I very much preferred the EVF over the screen anyways.
It is !
It was a sarcastic remark. Cameras sometimes get the blame for lousy photography. Well, something that doesn’t let you see anything is the perfect “it wasn’t my fault” image making tool.
hehe okay 🙂
Most awesome rumor ever! The perfect companion for the new Loxia lenses. I guess they would use the 12MP A7s sensor that’s also perfect with adapted rangefinder lenses. This camera would sell like hot cakes! It’s a next generation Rangefinder!
I would hope for some new focussing/magnification options that only magnify the center or some digital rangefinder emulation. There are so many possibilities to improve manual focussing further Sony, give us more!
I share your enthusiasm, but I doubt it will sell like hot cakes unless it has some technical gadgetry or usability advantages that separates it from, par example, an A7S. Good looks sells, but there needs to be something more, appealing, under the shell. One thing is for sure, just like the *shrug* Hasselblad collaborations, this possible new Zeiss Ikon will have a considerably heftier price tag than the Sony it will be based upon.
hmm, I think the look of rangefinder camera combined with superb built quality (just like the original Ikon with some modern touch) would be attractive enough. The design would also be much more compatible with all the legacy rangefinder lenses. It could have a better EVF with much bigger magnification and better optics.
The Hasselblad collaboration, let’s forget about it, it was just a pathetic attempt to sell overprized “stylish” Sony cameras to VIP.
The Zeiss Ikon was much cheaper (1/3rd ?) than the Leica M and the better camera at the same time. I don’t see a reason why this couldn’t be made for around 2000-2500$. I don’t have the feeling Zeiss overprices their products. You get what you pay for.
Well, time will tell when and if this project gets materialized. I am afraid there will be more parallells to *the collaborations of which we do not speak about* than I, and you, want to see. Ie cosmetics and a hefty price tag, just tastefully excecuted. But that’s just my guess.
The Zeiss is a great camera, but they are basically going to make a FF NEX-7 without an LCD. So what would be the point of that? A shutter speed dial on the top?
Been saying this since the launch of the Loxias that this would be awesome! Would be better with a real rangefinder with digital coupling, but still.
People been saying it long before. 😉 But Loxia does make it more plausible.
That’s what I mean, new line of lenses that are manual focus for a digital camera but provide focus distance info and made for FF. Kind of seems to add up to something on the cards.
Also lends a bit more rhyme and reason to the 35 and 50mm focal lengths being the first in the Loxia range.
Do they provide focus distance info? Or do we just assume it ‘could’ because they have electronics.
That’s how they enable auto magnification, like the Sony lenses
Well, knowing the ring is turning is just 1 or 0, doesn’t mean they know where it’s at. Nothing indicates that at the moment far as i know. But i hear ya, seem like only a small step, but they would have had prepared this way in advance.
Well I know that EF lenses send distance information using Metabones adapter and that distance information is what activated the auto mag feature (and digital distance scale), so extrapolating from.that pretty sure it is the distance encoder that causes the auto mag feature to function.
Ah well if the distance scale works with Loxia lenses then we know!
I’m almost 100% they do.
Many people are waiting for a digital Ikon since many years! The Zeiss Ikon was an improved Leica M7, really the better camera over all and much cheaper at the same time. They just need to make it, I’d buy it in a heartbeat! Rangefinder users want a rangefinder camera. The rangefinder style, the Zeiss name on it and awesome built quality will make this much more attractive for the many legacy prime lens photographers compared to an A7 “SLR” body style. I’d definitely get one! Sony, Zeiss, make it!!
I would buy it if it were a real rangefinder, I’m iffy if not and probably stick to my A7S. Couldn’t give a hoot about ‘rangefinder style’ camera.
an electronic rangefinder coupling should be possible with E-mount lenses. Even a combination of OVF and EVF like the Fuji X100 could be done. I really wanna get surprised now, the rumor is so exiting! Unfortunately only SR1 🙁
My thoughts exactly.
I would like that if priced right. Or else I would just watch the photos on webpages.
Haha, zeiss pr0n. It think it may be worth it even if (a little) expensive, at the moment the main thing holding me back considering a A7 are the controls and shooting style.
If this was E-Mount FF with a real rangefinder I would happily pay $4,000 for one.
Why not. A exclusively manually operable stills camera would certainly find many fans.
If it would come with high res EVF it might get my serious interest, too.
No rear LCD? Seems unlikely. Unless they mean it’s OLED!
Why not?
If it aims to give you the fealing of the old roll film era it should come without.
So much feals!
As I’m sure you know, Leica actually did it already, no display, no buttons but the shutter release, a shutter dial, aperture on the lens, and the iso on the back:
http://leicastoremiami.com/products/leica-m-edition-leica-60
feals?
Not everybody can afford a Leica.
Yes you typed feals, you don’t foal me by correcting it !
Not everybody can afford a Leica? No **** sherlock.
foal?
🙂
Yes it’s what you call a little donkey. 😉
Leica just released exactly that, a digital M without Display. A little bit expensive though, I bet the digital Ikon would be just 10% of that price.
http://leicastoremiami.com/products/leica-m-edition-leica-60
You didn’t have a display to review in film era as well, no problem! An EVF would be good enough for reviewing for me and the lack of display would make the camera much more sturdy and less sensitive to scratches etc.
It’s a little bit impractical, in that you can’t even set the date in camera or format a memory card though.
no problem, those expensive special edition Leicas aren’t used for photography anyways 😀
The Leica has no EVF, but I’m pretty sure the Ikon would, so that’s no problem as well.
No problem for you. But it might be for people with cash actually buying these high end cameras. Reliability and longevity is what you expect from an Ikon – and EVFs provide neither.
How do you know? I never heard of EVF problems so far, but many of miss-calibrated rangefinder OVF.
Maybe they want to sell LCD as an optional item.
or you just mount your smartphone on the back if your really need one 😉
Here two interesting links:
Interview with Zeiss product manager at photokina. He is also asked about the possibility of a digital Ikon at the end. He responds by asking the interviewer questions. Maybe a good way to hide a new product?:
http://www.bestmirrorlesscamerareviews.com/2014/09/19/photokina-2014-interview-with-zeiss-product-manager-christophe-casenave-loxia-touit-mft-and-more/
Short review and comments on the Zeiss Ikon:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/zeiss-.html
I don’t see why this is unlikely. It would be a retro A7 with Zeiss badge. Makes a lot of sense for Sony and Zeiss to tap this market.
And now that the Hassleblad partnership is done and dusted no reason why they can’t.
Uh, that was really pathetic! But this Ikon rumor is something completely different 🙂
Agreed! But it does open the door for a new, better ‘premium’ partnership.
Oh yes, I mean Zeiss was never in the same system boat with Hasselblad. AFAIK their cameras and lenses have always been made for different camera types and formats. I would call both premium, but Zeiss is a much more attractive partner right now as they already design many E-mount lenses. Actually the Zeiss lenses got me into the Sony system!
Apart from the Zeiss Ikon name the rumor basically
says that Sony will introduce an A6000 with full frame sensor and maybe some
retro charm. There were rumors about an A5000-alike camera with FF so why not
do an A6000-lookalike?
As for the lack of an OVF and the LCD,
Sony has not much experience with not-through-the-lens-OVFs, let alone
rangefinder coupled. And Leica proved that a digital camera without an LCD has
fans. Should this rumor come true, you basically get the Leica M 60th anniversary
or whatever it’s called but with an actual way to check your images straight
after the exposure through the EVF. The built might be sturdier without an LCD
and if they incorporate WiFi, you still have a preview when shooting at odd
angles.
Think of it as an RX1 on steroids and with
interchangeable lenses. If the price is right, for me somewhere between the A7r
and A7s, I’d gladly consider it.
+1 for the EVF and RX1 style
But hey, I would just want that original sexy Zeiss Ikon body with EVF and digital sensor, nothing else!
this!!
Well something else, the E-mount! Loxia FTW! Those ZM lenses don’t do very well on digital sensors .. and one can always use an adapter, not the other way around, or even add the benefit of the VM-E close-focusing adapter. =)
They do actually very well on the A7s sensor. That’s why I would expect this sensor to be used! E-mount is no-brainer 🙂
A weatherproof, completely silent digital rangefinder with superb low light sensor, EVF, WIFI, NFC, Autofocus, 4K video.
Throw in an optional grip for longer lenses (with extra battery in it) and it’s the only camera body I would ever need!
OMG I have never been so exited about a rumor since the FF mirrorless rumors 2 years ago 😀
Haha, sorry to say though, this being SR1, it’s still just as much a fantasy as it was before the ‘rumor’. Nothing wrong with that, but just don’t get your hopes up.
No Optical Viewfinder= Waste of time
said no mirrorless EVF user ever…
Yea, that’s why mirrorless users are still a small minority.
actually rangefinder OVF users are the even smaller minority 😉
If you’d sum up the content of their wallets against the wallets of mirrorless owners – I’m quite sure they’d win 😉
There wallets are empty because they overspent on overpriced DSLR’s.
probably yes, but the thingy in their pants is much shorter…
The content of the wallet of some Leica users don’t take nice pictures so I’m not sure why you think the wallets “win” 😉
I’d buy digital Ikon, but with LCD – after all it’s a digital camera 😉 24mp w/o AA filter should be enough for walk-around camera and current EVFs are good (although OVF is OVF)
well but isn’t it just the EVF that makes the LCD almost obsolete? You wouldn’t wanna manual focus on a LCD anyways when you have an EVF.
What you see is what you get on and EVF, I rarely have to review my A7 shots on the display because you have seen 95% of your result before the shot already!
And for reviewing? It can be done in the EVF to check the focus and sharpness easily.
New smartphones and tablets are connected easily via NFC in a few seconds and you can transfer all the pictures you took on a day in a minute!
Sorry, I’m still so exited about this rumor 😀 I really wanna have that next generation rangefinder with all Sony electronic bells and whistles now!
I would buy Zeiss Icon Digital if it would have e-mount and the price would be resonable 🙂
Well of course it would be e-mount 🙂 It’s the only mirrorless FF mount and Zeiss already has the lenses for it.
Forgot about M-mount? Ziess got by far more (and smaller and higher (build) quality) lenses there than it does on E-mount.
Then why would Sony (that’s the rumor) make the camera? Maybe there will be two, E- and M-mount 😉
Oh and of course on in A-mount for the whiners 😀
Cause Zeiss doesn’t have an expertise in electronics – their only real, capable partner in that regard is Sony.
They’d most likely sell it as Zeiss with no official connection to Sony – much like Ikon isn’t promoted as a camera made by Cosina even though that’s exactly what happens.
All electronics would come from Sony, Zeiss designs the body and makes a great optic in front of the EVF. Cosina can put the parts together, who cares? :p
“You wouldn’t wanna manual focus on a LCD anyways when you have an EVF” – have you ever used tripod?
LCD has better colour accuracy than EVF, flippy LCD allows you to shoot from hip, or low positioned subject. don’t get carried away with this retro non-sense like Leica M60 – it’s utter non-sense to pay so much money for so crippled digital camera
Of course an articulated LCD is useful in certain situations, especially with AF. But for a manual focus camera, I could live without. Photographers have managed to take great pictures for a century without LCD. Loxia lenses have manual focus, just turn it to infinity for landscapes 🙂
Then there is the wireless viewfinder on your smartphone. It’s even better as you don’t even have to touch the camera and use a timer.
The Leica M60 is expensive because it’s a limited Leica, nothing to do with the hardware.
“just turn it to infinity for landscapes” – oh I see, so for you landscape photography is probably wide angle lens set to infinity, well, I take landscapes quite often with telephoto – it’s called separation
“Then there is the wireless viewfinder on your smartphone.” – oh I see, they could have also just released a camera mount with sensor slapped at the back of it so I could control it all with my phone, seriously…really?
Not with that shutter and no Zeiss logo (Cosina would be accurate)! Make it monochrome for a good measure but price it well below RX1/RX1r.
Looks like Sony is making a new camera for Zeiss. I wonder if Sony will be making a new RX20 for Sony soon.
Anybody know?
Digital Zeiss Ikon? Where’s the preorder button?
Too good to be true..
It’s the silly season.
A crippled Sony A7 with blue sticker for mega-bucks.
Which part of the rumors is unlikely?
It’s about time to have a decent RF body for the ZM lenses. I hope the UI will be made by Zeiss and not Sony.
What UI ? No rear LCD 🙂
What UI? A wheels on top and 3-5 buttons, that’s it! 😀
Could be nice, but EVF is the future. Even today’s Leicas can suffer from inaccurate focus due to a misaligned rangefinder mechanism. I get the appeal and understand if they want to chase the Leica faithful with an RF. Hybrid VF would be best then…
Anyways. SR1…DPReview forums could have come up with that…
No OVF?! Bummer. Ikon got excellent viewfinder and I’d most gladly buy digital Ikon, but…. damn, not with an EVF. That’s completely different camera.
No LCD, so you would pretty much have to have an EVF. Even Leica caved in this area.
You can always use clip-on optical finders for the true rangefinder feel…
i like the nex 7 and the new a6000 but feel they look amateurish and i hate to bring it out infront of clients! Please let this be true! no more than an RX1 with a loxia lens 🙂 there’s hoping
Try to show first your photos, to your customers, then bring out the gear 😉
My transition from, nikon to sony as been an easy one with my clients only a couple have asked me about the size, but all have been impressed with the end results. I use the sony battery grip and that makes the A7’s handle a lot better and look more like a “pro” camera! i like the style of the x-pro 1 felt good but as an event camera it’s plain awful and the a6000 kills it in every aspect for me. This is why i’m excited about this camera! give me a6000 in an x-pro one body and and if they can whack a FF Foveon sensor in it why the hell not. I like the idea of just having a big bright evf like the new xt-1! when it came out i was blown away by how good it is and this is one of my biggest complaints about the A7’s evf is too small and the plastic cup is awful i’ve already had to change it three times 🙁 If this camera was made with zeiss, build quality would be top notch and would make a lot more people thinking of going to e-mout knowing that there is an alternative to sony like the oly/pana partnership! Also Zeiss just venture into making their first autofous lens and this might be a sign that zeiss is ready to move in new directions. Who knows just wishing
If I did that, I’d never get paid.
Just put a bag over your camera and cut out a whole for the lens.
SR0
foveon sensor 🙂
Why is it unlikely? Fuji and Olympus are very successful with their retro-designs. It’s just a matter of time/will that Sony will follow. At least with a test balloon. Sony likes to test things out. Why not? And the relationship with Zeiss is so deep, that’s not unlikely for Sony to copy a classic. Maybe it’s not an exact replica of the Ikon, but maybe just some general design directions.
You’re right, if it were true it would only be similar in a general direction. Sony is not in the habit of making top quality hardware with traditional materials, traditional in the good sense. Just look at Sony Zeiss and Cosina Zeiss, all else put aside Cosina is making it similar to the old Contax Zeiss, which was made totally under Zeiss control, Sony Zeiss is Sony build with a Zeiss look.
Smash you sony fgts!
What do you guys think?
Zeiss Digital Ikon
– 16mp
– E mount but comes with a Zeiss E to M adapter
– rangefinder style design
– next gen EVF
Why 16MP?
Why not 12, 24 or 36…. what’s the reason for 16?
Not everyone want to print larger than A1
you can’t print A1 with 36mp, not at 300dpi
Can’t understand what u meant really, but i had some great A1 prints with my 12MP 5D
24mp would be fine, but I wanted a slightly higher MP while retaining the A7s excellent low light performance.
And this being a photo camera doesn’t need the 12mp to do 4K video.
No evf make it true range finder (guess this would mean m mount only). no rear screen full manual controls
WOW! my dream camera !!!
I have recently dreamed about such camera….
And then came Hulk and smash dream camera! Puny, smash!
Godzilla Monster from Tokyo come smash Hulk if he not careful bashing Japanese companies
Yeah right.
Although it would be pretty awesome to pair it with the Loxia lenses.
It would ridiculous looking with other E-mount lenses…
Would Sigma make lenses for this or is the mount tooo small for them?
Some people like ’em loose. Don’t jusge.
Would this “feature” a plastic mount?
So… after “no lenses” and “light leaks”, “plastic mount” is all the rage now?
All facts.
Vivek talks like a many with a plastic a$$ hole.
Yep, when you’re low on ammo you use what you’ve got…
I’m not sure where the retro ‘plastic is bad’ nonsense comes from. Modern plastics are extremely durable and often more stable both thermally and mechanically than equivalent metals.
Nice, that’s exactly why all ultrabooks at the thinner end of the spectrum(not sure about the relatively low end ones) use aluminum alloy, or if not, carbon fiber and even lithium alloy instead of plastics. Not only do plastics look good, they feel solid in the hand, have higher hardness and higher tensile strength at the same thickness don’t they.
Carbon Fiber is plastic, just like fiberglass. Styrene and Epoxy resins are plastic.
The last sentence makes little sense.
If the plastic is carbon fiber reinforced, that’s another thing. I admit that there are new advanced materials which fall into the plastic category, but do you actually see a lens using them as a casing?
Judging from all the consumer electronics I’ve seen I say it does. Plastic shells always feel thicker, tend to flex more, and scratch more easily. I’ve heard of new plastics harder than the usual metals a few years back, but that doesn’t mean they’re often seen out in the open, maybe they’re more expensive than most metal materials too.
Then it should be touted as a “feature” of a product, just like when they say something is weather proofed, etc.
why are you posting stuff you say is probably no true but not posting the “exciting news” you “KNOW” is coming?
wow, are you able to read other people’s minds ?!?
because those reliable ones usually come 2 days before the announcement 😉
I like SR1-3 rumors, that’s what keeps this site alive! Much better than those daily super deals…
oh i like the SR1-3 rumors too!! im just wondering why he is posting SR1 stuff and sale stuff and deal links when he has said multiple times that he has exciting news that is for sure coming soon and is cross checking sources for this stuff but wont share it?
fair enough. I also just want more rumors. They don’t have to be 100% correct or confirmed. Just give it a SR ranking and that’s it!
admin?
+1000000
(SR4) Miley Cyrus was killed and replaced with a lookalike!
(SR6) The moon is not real. It is an alien object with a purpose.
(SR2) Nikon set to unveil new full frame camera utilizing organic CMOS sensor technology developed by Fuji.
Why? To create some buzz and traffic on the site and then post a link to ebay or whatever online shop: more chances that someone will buy something from here, leaving to Admin a little percentage of the money the customer spent.
This is likely to be a niche product much like the Nikon Df, great if you’re into nostalgia not so great if used for photography.
What if it’s just half the size and weight of a DF and the lenses much smaller an lighter? And how could photographers be so stupid and buy those kind of small cameras with a big film format for more than a hundred years when it’s “not good for photography”?
Do we all have to go and buy a big ugly Canikon brick now? Would it make you feel better?
just asking…
Can anyone tell me how the Zeiss FE lenses match up in build compared to the FA lenses? Like, does the 55 have a build as nice as the 50mm 1.4? Did Zeiss step it down for FE or keep it comparable? Juuuust wondering.
The FE 55mm 1.8 is touted as the best auto focus lens made to date.
I get that, what I want to know is how the build measures up to the Zeiss FA lenses. Did they cheap out for it? Is it the same metal build and focusing ring?
Can’t speak for the 50/1.4 but build quality of the 55/1.8 is easily as good as the 24/2. I think they may have made a few compromises with 35/2.8 to keep the weight and size down, but it’s still finished to Zeiss standards.
Ok, I’m failiar with the 24. I think they are mostly the same. I just wasn’t sure if the metal was like much thinner or if the lenses felt like a cheaper version of the FA’s.
ZA!!!!! NOT FA!!!!!
It is not built like the Zeiss 50/1.5 cause it is not a manual focus lens. You do not twist any aperture dial and there is no reason to manual focus the FE 55/1.8 cause it is an AF lens. So – no reason the same build. But it is not your el cheapo kit lens. I think it has a good build quality. Like any other expensive AF lens out there.
You mean ZA? What is FA?
I couldn’t believe how cheaply made the FE55/1.8 was. I know others claim differently, but I swear that rear lens mount is made of silver plastic, like my cellphone. Perhaps some hybrid metal/plastic. The fly-wire focus seems cheap, like a game controller with bad accelerometer which does nothing when turned very slowly. No stops at either end of focus ring is disturbing.
Sure, AF was fast and secure. Manual focus feels like a cheap P&S.
I ran comparisons between Mino 50/1.4 and FE55/1.8. Yes the FE is a bit sharper wide open beyond the Mino at f2. But from f2.8 to f8, the differences were negligible for the art copies I needed for publication. Results from Mino 100 macro were just as sharp as FE55/1.8, so in the end, I didn’t need the little Zeiss. Returned.
But surely I’m a troll for saying anything bad about the lens. And the good comments I gave it should be disregarded as covering my true intentions.
No, I appreciate this…it’s what I was looking for. I own the 100 Mino and can confirm it is extremely sharp and up their with Zeiss branded lenses. I had the feeling that at that price point there must have been some corner cutting with the FE lenses. The 50mm 1.4 has SSM but it does stop as you rotate it. The build is rediculous as well.
The mount is metal. I also own the Fe 35 that has a plastic mount and you can easily tell the difference. The plastic one is a shiny chrome finish and sound hollow.
I have to sacrafice a lens to move over to FA. I’m not willing to part with the cash right now for a FF. So like, it’s got to be either the 50mm 1.4 Zeiss or 135mm 1.8 Zeiss. Man, I can’t decide. I have a deep love affair with both of them.
If I ditch the awesome 50 I can get the 55 1.8 at a later date. However, it has SSM and would probably work better size and performance wise over the 135mm 1.8 on the A7. But then again the 135 is …well…it’s the 135. Son of a …..
Give me an alternative to my next planned purchase (Monochrom). A reborn, modern Ikon, with M mount would be nice to have.
This is what I’d like
I triedto link an image of Mikail Ikon Concept dated 2013 (google it). That was/is cool.
I think it’s a bit to out there. Don’t get me wrong…I like the minimalist look, but I don’t see this having a lot of market appeal.
The cheapest to produce would have no lcd, no evf, no ovf — and no lens or sensor either. Would make a good schnapps glass?…
I think 2015 is shaping up to be the year of surprises. Not just Sony, I expect some crazy new products across the line. Should be interesting.
This should do it…
“Sony/Zeiss manufactured by Sony will release a FF camera similar to the 35mm Ikon (here on eBay). No optical viewfinder.” If it has no Optical Viewfinder, it must have an Electronic Viewfinder.
Sounds more like a Full Frame Sony NEX 7, or a Full Frame Fuji X2. What makes a Zeiss Ikon Rangefinder, or a Fuji X100, different from other cameras is the non-SLR Optical Viewfinder.
Maybe the Administrator was thinking of the NON-Rangefinder Zeiss Ikon SW. The only viewfinder(s) were clip-on viewfinders that were specific to a particular lens, i.e. 15mm viewfinder for a 15mm lens. http://www.photographyblog.com/news/zeiss_ikon_sw_camera/
That was a Bessa L knockoff!
Both the Bessa L and Zeiss Ikon SW were made by Cosina.
Cosina also makes the Nikon FM film camera.
Cosina did not make my FM2. I took it to many pieces and it’s all Nikon.
Oh, it went back together just fine. Real metal and actual small nuts and bolts.
Here ya go … from Nikon USA’s web site. Nikon FM10 http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Products/Product/Film-Cameras/1689/FM10.html
“The FM10 is not actually manufactured by Nikon itself, and is not a true member of the Nikon compact F-series SLRs, as the name implies. It is manufactured by Cosina in Japan (as are both the lenses), and is derived from the Cosina CT-1 chassis.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_FM10
Hope this one turns in to a SR5 soon…
You don’t want this to take pictures. You want a new fashion look.
I am starting to despise this entire class of photographers. It took a while. I love to take pictures and fool with them, this since the 70s of the last century, and at first I was just amused by the fashionistas.. Now I can see real advances will have to wait for this nonsense. All because the poodles have money.
(SR7) Poodles will take over the world by 2028.
Or they will be pitchforked installation displays. The world ain’t getting any richer as the poodles trencher on. It’s obvious now.
I was in Adorama in NYC a few weeks buying a lens cap to replace one I lost in a TSA checkpoint. There was a woman shopping for an MILC. The salesman was steering her to the A6000 as best of breed APS-C mirrorless (which, as far as I can tell, is absolutely true) but the customer kept pushing back, not about features, not about price, but about the Sony brand. There are people who are not necessarily despicable fashionistas but who just don’t think of Sony as a high end camera brand.
It might have helped to ask why. Would Panny or Oly be considered any different? To some, only Nikon and Canon are consider professional. Consumers aren’t always rationale.
Maybe she wanted a Leica Hermes?
I can fully understand that because I was like that until recently. I’m a Nikon user of several decades. A few years back when I bought a Nikon D300, I remember seeing review photos of the Sony A series cameras and thinking, “Sony just don’t get it”, and in these intervening years I just would not think twice about a Sony for my main camera — maybe for compacts, yes, but not my main camera. What changed? Someone I know suggested I check the A6000. I did, and the reviews were amazing. I now have one, and I’m with Sony for the immediate future, although I haven’t invested in so many lenses that it’s not impossible for me to jump ship. Sony still doesn’t deliver the full package to me. Specifically, too many lenses with no OSS, and no IBIS. In the next 5 years it will emerge which company evolves to provide the package of features that combine to attract me.