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Sony US goes crazy: $1,000 off on the A7r with vertical grip. $150 off on the A6000!

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Ok guys…I swear…i never saw that great deals in five years of SonyAlphaRumors!

The Sony A7r with vertical grip with SD card and bag sells with a $1,000 discount at Amazon US (Click here). It’s not a scam third party reseller…it’s Amazon itself selling it for that price! Update: now soooold out!
And now also the Sony A6000 with lens, bag and card sells for $548 only again at Amazon US (Click here).

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    1. Agreed…..U$A only AGAIN.

      What’s up with $ony ?? Going on vacation soon and checked the Airport shops for $ony SLT cameras. Guess what..NOT A ONE to be seen. (and not much in the way of E mount’s either)

      Never any deals from $ony in the UK/Europe, all we see is deals in the U$ from Sony themselves, Amazon and the other U$ retailers. This has got nothing to do with VAT/sales tax etc. It is all to do with $ony profiteering from high and fixed prices in the UK, Europe and many other countries in order that they can give discounts to the good old U$A. Well $ony, the U$A may be big…BUT WE ARE BIGGER. How can you grow by ignoring the rest of the whole wide world.

  1. Sony really thinks the new tech is a game changer and needs to get rid of the old stuff.
    But will the new camera be fully compatable with multiple lenses or is Sony still playing the same game?

    1. Not sure even Sony knows what game they are actually playing, Barry.

      They created a system to suit small bodied cameras to fill a market for small, portable yet good quality cameras. They then found that they had underestimated the market and are now trying to make that small camera system fit all needs, which it will never really do because these small lightweight bodies with weak mounts, no IBIS and the need for adapters, will never suit the needs or cope with the larger and heavier lenses used for sports,wildlife and many other fields. What will Sony do about it? Fumble along as usual with the left hand planning for a future that the right hand does not really understand.

      1. Funny thing is your probaboy very close to the truth. A7 with heavy lenses isn’t a big deal though. Its a niche product….a very good one but niche. I’m having so much fun with it and my alpha glass I don’t care. What is more troubling is the abandonment of a mount. Your right on that.

      2. Shame on Sony for under estimating the market, who knew? If only they were a wise as the know nothing bloggers on SAR.

      3. The A7’s are not designed for sports and wildlife. Nobody ever said they were, or even NEX’s and Leica M’s. How is that fumbling?

        1. THEFLAPDONG
          If the A7’s are not designed for sports and wildlife, then does Sony have anything in their range which is??? Oh yes, the amazing ‘A’ mount SLT cameras of course…..remember them…they’re the ones which have been left high and dry because of Sony’s fumbling and inability to see beyond their noses. Sony hasn’t got a clue about the different genres of photography and the different cameras needed to fulfill these needs. Like I said, the left hand planning for a future the right hand doesn’t understand.

    1. you were just late. when i first clicked on it there were 8 A7R’s available. minutes later deal was gone.

      i bought one, but i am pretty sure it was a mistake and won’t be honored.

    1. Did you end up getting it? Mine showed it was going to ship on tuesday but I only received the bag, grip and card. Now they’re telling me that the order is being handled and they will update me as soon as they have an answer.

  2. This sale for the A6000 is NOT USA. I clicked on the link you provided, Andrea. It went to the deal listed on Amazon US. However, when I clicked on the camera, to se whether it was covered by a US warranty, it said that it was sold by and shipped from Cameta Camera, and that there were only twenty left. That means that it is NOT being sold by Amazon US, and very likely is not covered by a US warranty. I didn’t check the A7R, but I expect to see the same thing when I do.

    1. They were likely both used or black market, from previous experience I do not purchase anything that isn’t listed from Amazon or reputable retailers DIRECTLY.. Who ever is writing this blog has demonstrated many times his blinding loyalty towards Sony, even if it means posting links to items being sold by blackmarket / unreliable sources. It’s a shame really because I follow all of the rumor sites(own canon and sony systems) yet this has to be, without a doubt the most unprofessionally maintained site of them all..

      The writing is poor, the advice even worse, and to top it off the writer seems to think Sony is ahead of the game when in fact, they are trailing others in both the video / photographic market. A better mindset would be to approach things more openly and honestly, keep your emotions out of it and for the love of god stop advising people of “deals” from shady retailers that will cause them more harm then good.

      1. I think you have inserted your own bias in that last paragraph. Qualify that trailing the market statement. In sales yes….

        1. Look on the sidelines of every professional sporting / corp event in the still photography world(populated with canon/nikon). Independent and commercial level motion picture production is also dominated by Canon/Arri/Red with sony taking slowly picking up bigger pieces of the pie.

          Don’t be such a slave to a brand that you let it cloud your judgement of where it actually sits in the market. I own and love shooting sony / minolta gear, however that does not mean I also don’t appreciate picking up my 1dx when its time to go to work. Why do I pick it up? Not because of the brand name on the front of the camera but because I’m confident it gives me the best possible results TIME after TIME. On vacation I dig my a7r but find myself using an x100s more often now 🙂

          1. Sony is one of the largest players in the pro video business. I like my a and e mount equipment but find that I really enjoy using the rx100 the most.

    2. Incorrect. The deal was directly from Amazon and was for a USA body. The reason you’re being redirected to other sellers via that link now is because Amazon is out of stock of the kit after everyone rushed to take advantage of the deal.

  3. When there are deals like this it means one thing: that camera is doomed. They’re coming out with their” pro” body and the A7r is a direct competitor so they’re killing it off. Think I’m wrong? Would you bet against history? Thank God I hung on to my nikon rig. Sony has no system they’re willing to commit to.

    1. Or it could be that one month before Christmas, Amazon’s trying to make space (and force customers to buy now, simplifying logistics) by discounting low volume, high price, high margin items that are unlikely to be last minute purchase to make way for low price, low margin, high volume items that will constitute the majority of impulse holiday sales…

      It’s an Amazon deal, not a Sony deal, sot it’s unlikely it has anything to do with Sony trying to kill the A7r to sell more hypothetical A9 next quarter…

      Or it could be an Amazon typo, wouldn’t be the first, certainly not the last.

      1. I’m willing to bet that Amazon has multiple checks and balances so that they don’t accidentally short themselves $700 on a product. They didn’t become who they are by being stupid. I go for the simplest explanation, borne out by evidence and history: sony is abandoning another body line.

        1. The simplest explanation is a pricing error because non-package-deal A7R’s are still sold at regular prices on Amazon itself and the package deal is now gone. On my order page it says that my A7R will take extra time to process; in my experience this usually means Amazon has discovered the error and won’t honor my order. Don’t know about the people who did order a few minutes before me and wish them luck.

          1. Sorry, I’m not buying the glitch explanation. Sony has been very consistent in one thing: every time we have a leak about a new camera system the older models are suddenly and mysteriously discounted. Thank God I stopped buying into it before I got an a7. I’m ashamed say they bled me for 2 APS-C models before I wised up.

          2. Fine if you believe this Amazon package that appeared for 30 minutes wasn’t a glitch, but discounting and phasing out is what happens with electronics, not only with Sony but every brand. Canon starts with mail-in rebates and after a while turns them into immediate discounts. It’s even worse with laptops. This is nothing mysterious or conspiratorial.

          3. Sure they do, but they have cohesive systems, and their phaseouts aren’t a brand new system. Anyone ever hear of nikon abandoning a whole line of lenses?

          4. You cite a 60 year old lens mount, for a range finder line, as your rebuttal!? You’re making my point for me! You can take over from here.

            Anyway, does anyone really believe that Amazon just happened screw up on two Sony deals on the same day, as reported on SAR?

          5. You asked a question and you received an answer you didn’t like. Now, I suggest this time, and using a little due diligence, do your homework before carrying on like a blithering idiot about a subject you obviously do not comprehend!

          6. I didn’t say I didn’t like, just that it’s not relevant, as in this century. Your anger suggests fear that there is a possibility of my being correct.

          7. Your Question: Anyone ever hear of nikon abandoning a whole line of lenses?

            Answered by me, and in context to your question. Now stop with this incessantly idiotic line of irrational rhetoric. Go research and read a little about E-mount cinema camera developments and you may actually learn a little about the ongoing development of this mount…………

            By the way, you’re wrong on two counts now, want to keep playing this game?

          8. You’re taking this oddly personally. Who’s talking cinema? Nikon has supported the same mount for lenses for 50 years, and Sony has dropped 2 in the last two years. Show me proof of ongoing development in APS-C emount, and you can be right.

          9. Troll Killer here is talking about the Sony motion cameras, like the upcoming and much lauded FS7, that share the E-mount and are an incentive to keep it alive.

            I don’t think anyone would disagree that Sony’s attention has been divided compared to the other cameras. But to say Sony has “dropped 2 mounts” in the last two years is hyperbolic.

          10. I consider FE to be a separate mount. It’s common knowledge that lenses are designed for the sensor. A lens designed for full frame is not optimal on crop sensor. Therefore, it’s a different lens system.

          11. So according to Joe the Plumber (you) Sony are not only abandoning the FE mount but also the E mount. Amazing news for sure, and the only evidence you have of this the fact that Sony haven’t proved that they are not dropping said mounts, other than the tens of millions they’re investing in both bodies and lenses. Truly amazing logic, logic that’s worthy of Rumsfeld himself…………..

          12. Actuall, FF lenses actually often perform BETTER on crop sensor cameras, as the sharp center covers a larger portion of the sensor, and vignetting isn’t as much of an issue.

          13. Better is debatable. Reasons why full-frame (FE) lenses on APS-C sensor is less than ideal:
            1: weight
            2: cost
            3: loss of stop – an f2.8 lens becomes an f4 and so on. Don’t argue with me about it if you don’t believe it – google it.
            4: No wide angle – a 17mm full frame becomes a 25.5mm and so on. You would have to purchase a 10 or 12 mm full frame to get usable wide angle on APS-C. (See #2.)

            So, again, FE lenses are designed for full-frame sensors, not APS-C sensors. Nikon/Canon make two separate lines of lenses for this very reason – if full-frame lenses were a 1:1 trade on APS-C sensors, why go and design a whole new bunch of lenses when you’ve already got years of development behind your full-frame? Because lenses designed for APS-C sensors work better on APS-C sensors. Sony has just decided to no longer make APS-C lenses, probably to support their full-frame sales.

          14. What you’re talking about aren’t performance drops, though, but rather just the reality of physics. 35mm is 35mm, for example – the 35mm f/1.8, which is an APS-C lens, as the same crop factor as Sony’s 35mm f/1.4 made for FF. If you’re talking about adjusted focal lengths on zooms, like 16-50 instead of 24-70; sure, I’ll give you that; but that’s about all you can expect. As far as the loss of aperture stop; again, that’s a simple physics issue, and when have you seen any camera maker make a zoom faster than 2.8 for a crop sensor? The first one I’ve ever seen by anyone is Sigma’s 18-35mm f/1.8. There isn’t anything similar from Sony, Nikon, or Canon, though.

          15. Are we talking about using full-frame lenses on APS-C sensors? A 35mm lens produced for a full-frame sensor has the field of view of a 52mm lens if placed on an APS-C camera. It’s probably larger, heavier and likely more expensive than its APS-C counterpart, one stop slower with less shallow depth of field. Sure, it’s just as sharp, but sharpness is only part of the game.

            I think it would not be too much to expect a camera manufacturer make lenses that work as intended with the bodies they produce. Nikon does, Canon does. I believe Sony no longer intends to support small sensor ILC lines. They produce new lenses only in FE mount. There are no verifiable plans produce new lenses for APS-C emount.

          16. Right, but a 35mm lens produced for APS-C still has the 52mm field of view; it’s just lighter (and yes, usually cheaper).

          17. A function of economics, smaller imaging circle require less glass resulting cheaper manufacturing. Exactly why the Zeiss Otus is physically large and very expensive compared to its full-frame counter parts. Its producing an oversized imaging circle and therefore requires larger more refined optics.
            APSC optics by whichever manufacturer are simply a function of economic constraints.

          18. No, you are missing the point. A 50 f/2 on a FF sensor is still a 50f/2 on a smaller sensor, the same amount of light still reaches the focal point when the back focus remains constant! This is a very important clarification, remember the inverse square law from physics class? Move a lens further away from the plane of focus and the inverse square law takes effect (i.e. using extension tubes). This point is often confusing for beginners.

          19. Incorrect on point 3. You’re confusing image aesthetics with optical physics. Image aesthetics change with sensor size, but the laws of optical physics are what they are. Point 4 is badly worded, a 17mm lens is a function of its design and does not change as you state. Field of view (another image aesthetic) will appear to be different. But, depth of field will remain that of a 17mm lens and does not change with format changes. The only thing that will change is the observers position relative to his scene. All basic properties of optical physics. Google will confuse you here if you do not have a basic grasp on these principles.

            Point 5 is merely a function of economics, APSC require smaller imaging circles, therefore are more economical to produce, hence more affordable for consumer cameras. The relative size of APSC lenses can therefore be smaller too. Look to my Zeiss Otus comment for clarification. Your point about optics designed with smaller imaging circles outperforming those with larger imaging circles is erroneous. Again refer to the Zeiss Otus comment. Hope this helps.

          20. Image aesthetics. Fine. Point still stands. If you want the image aesthetics of a 35mm f2 on your nex7, would you go buy an FE 35mm f2?

          21. No, you’d use the correct tool for the job a 36x24mm sensor. No point “trying” to force the aesthetic out of the wrong sensor. I’d also take issue with the converse rational. Small sensors have a purpose, and its an important one where more image sharpness is required (DOF). I’d never try to sell a macro photographer on a medium format system, one where its aesthetic isn’t necessarily appropriate. For a macro/close-up photographer the smaller sensor would likely be the better choice.

          22. Semantics aside, this is all very academic, and really changes nothing. I do not have, nor need, a degree in optical physics in order to talk about the “image aesthetics” of different lenses and sensors and have 99% if the people on this board know what I am talking about. If it’s wrong, then you get to be right, and the rest of us will just carry on.

            Image aesthetics is what it’s about anyhow for most photographers. Some of my favorite macro setups involved a mamiya rb67 and tubes.

          23. That’s ok, you’re still learning and these issues are difficult for a beginner to grasp succinctly (and somewhat dry if you don’t have the right aptitude). All told, when you understand the basics of any subject it makes specialization later on in your journey easier to master. I’d leave it there if your not interested in taking your understanding any further.

          24. Correct. The Zeiss Otis for example is actually producing an image circle far larger than a 135 frame, closer to 645. Hence the performance increase.

          25. CI Sales asked: Show me proof of ongoing development in APS-C emount, and you can be right.

            A6000, A77ll. Please go back to your bridge now, you are embarrassing yourself!

          26. CI Sales Quote: Show me proof of ongoing development in APS-C emount, and you can be right.

            A6000. Now return to your bridge and stop embarrassing yourself.

          27. We were talking lenses, not camera bodies. Sony has camera bodies galore. Anyway, again, the lack of proof of new development only proves my point. Any chance you could cease with the insults?

          28. Your opening quote: When there are deals like this it means one thing: that camera is doomed. They’re coming out with their” pro” body and the A7r is a direct competitor so they’re killing it off. Think I’m wrong? Would you bet against history? Thank God I hung on to my nikon rig. Sony has no system they’re willing to commit to.

            You are a Nikon fan-boy TROLL and to add insult to injury you are not even capable of remembering what you wrote a mere day ago! But around and around we must go until you get back on your meds and bugger off back to the bridge you crawled out from under………..

          29. Wow, if I were a troll you would be like crack to a junkie. In any case, you’ve presented no contrary proof beyond fringe examples and semantic juggling. If you’ve nothing else to add then let’s call it a day.

          30. And there is your parting salvo……..

            “In any case, you’ve presented no contrary proof beyond fringe examples and semantic juggling. If you’ve nothing else to add then let’s call it a day.”

            And its a perfect description of your hollow circular argument!

          31. I missed this gem! Prey tell, which 2 mounts has Sony dropped in the last two years? I prey to God that you are a little more competent in your day job!

          32. Okay buddy I really don’t want more people to know this but it happens. I bought 12 Sony Rx1 for $1600 each 1 month after it was released. Kept one flipped 10, gifted one. It happens. There was total of 16, all gone in 35min. This is very rare I do not recommend dedicating your life to monitoring Amazon glitches, but it happens. I would add, for this deal even if you caught, it is not that great. Good to buy not good enough to flip.

          33. DId you do one-day shipping? If so it should’ve shipped about now. If you have a tracking number congrats!

          1. I don’t get it: I’m a troll because I made a valid comment about how sony has now three camera systems with three different lens lines, are about add a fourth system while simultaneously dropping lenses and support for two of the previous lines? A mount is dead after the arrival of this new pro line, APS-C emount lenses are gone, bye bye, and now their “canikon killer” A7 line is obsolete, on sale, cheap cheap cheap, even if it’s for a short time. They’re just pumping up desire. Trolls don’t state the obvious. Trolls just make inflammatory comments with no substance, like. .. well you, actually.

          2. So many assumptions and flaws, where to start debunking…
            There is no new lens mount coming, there are no lens mounts to be dropped. That’s a start.

          3. Again, show me the proof of a new APS-C emount lens by Sony. Not FE. And don’t tell me they don’t need any more. Nikon has been making f mount lenses for years and still plan on more.

    2. Don’t overinterpret a simple glitch on Amazon. The package is Amazon’s idea; SAR Admin just miswrote. If this were Sony-instigated price drop you’d see it across the board, and it wouldn’t be ridiculous like $1k

      1. So when support for those dries up, no new lenses are made that fit it or work well with it, will you be so happy? The point of having a system commitment is that new things are made that work with the system, improvements are made, and so on. Does that make” sence” ? They’ll never beat Canikon at this rate.

        1. There are lenses (and new ones to come) , there is support (more than when I bought it and growing where I live) for my “dead” cameras. You’re still not making sense.

          1. Please, show me any proof of planned, serious introduction of an APS-C e-mount lens by Sony. FE doesn’t count: they’re designed for full frame, not crop.

          2. That last comment was idiotic. Why would a A7r buyer care particularly if sony planned more APS-C e-mount lenses, unless they plan using it in crop mode, which kind of defeats the purpose. Surely new FE lenses are what matters, in which case your point makes no sense CI Sales.

          3. Last time I heard, the E mount cameras still work well – and the FE lenses work quite well for them as well. You can complain all you want – if it’s not the system for you, there are lots of good choices out there. Lots of people, on the other hand, are doing good work with their Sony equipment. The big difference, of course, is that they take pictures with what they have and not complain about stuff that’s not there.

          4. Very reasonable and enlightened, thank you. My original post actually did not complain at all, and I have indeed returned to my system that works and am quite happy with it. I made an observation about the reason for the sudden price drop, and a few people took it personally. I loved my nex7 when I used it, and still pull it out for nostalgia’s sake, but I don’t believe that Sony is the right system for a photographer in my line of work, and I’ll stand by that opinion. This is a place to discuss such opinions, and I make no apologies for defending mine. I don’t believe that discussing the merits and deficiencies of a camera system amounts to complaining, but I’ll agree to disagree on that point. And to imply that I post rather than shoot while you’re posting yourself is self defeating.

          5. Everybody should use the tool that suits them. Highlighting deficiencies is almost a sport here at SAR. That’s why it’s a great thing that Andrea posts links to work done by photographers. It reminds us that the tools should be in service to art. You had a very strong opinion, in your original post, that Sony had no system that they are willing to commit to. As far as I have seen, they have not abandoned any of their camera lines. And while they are not producing new APS-C only lenses (for E mount at the moment), they are producing quite a few lenses that can be used on APS-C cameras. I would posit that they probably unexpected success of the RX and FE cameras caused them to alter their product mix (cameras, lenses) somewhat. Still, aside from really long lenses (and a compact medium APS-C telephoto), the Sony E mount offerings isn’t bad at all. Can it be better? Yes. I do think, however, that too many people always discuss the deficiencies of what’s available instead of fully taking advantage of what is before them.

            As for your second point, I find it interesting to read various opinions on SAR. Your opinion, strongly worded, was something that I don’t agree with (and thus the response). I am glad that you have a system that you can use.

          6. It’s funny: people jump when there’s a strongly worded opinion, but no one bats an eye when other posters call me an idiot. I’m surprised that the desire to defend a camera system is stronger than the desire for civil discussion.

          7. Name calling is the nom de guerre in almost every internet hangout. It’s not right and while you can’t eliminate it totally, it is incumbent on all of us to restrain the name calling. Opinions can and will be challenged, but individuals should maintain a sense of decorum (if possible).

    3. Stick to your Nikon rig! These are toys with all sorts of issues: bad menus, shutter shock, slow performance, bad build, undersized bayonet, bad af… Not unlike m43, fuji or samsung, just with a larger sensor.

  4. calm down, there’s no lucky buyer at all. This is just a costless marketing trick, as the contract is not legally enforceable until the seller accept the offer made by the buyer. The listing was merely an invitation to treat.

  5. well at that price of course it would sell-off
    i wonder if sony made same deal to the rest of the world, did canikon market share would shrink?
    glad sony took the war where canikon will lose, SENSOR, sony its leader in sensor tech, make everyone buying their sensors its the smart thing to do, look at RX line, they took 1″ sensor and whatever they make money selling that camera the sure thing its now everyone its releasing 1″ sensor cameras and most if not all are buying it from sony
    now the a7 line its doing the same to FF sensor, whatever canikon or sony/others rule the camera market, sony only cares all of them use sony sensors, and why they would not, are simple the best, canon wont go and say they use sony sensors, like nikon, but i bet they will do, they cant keep selling 5 years old sensor tech, even their hard fans will leave if they dont put sony inside
    sony its rigth pushing ff sensor to masses, aps-c in mirrorles was looked up in battle with m4/3, but m4/3 will be in oblivion againts ff, would be like 1/2.3 sensors vs 1″, sony sensor strategy its good, with their 1/2.3 sensors for smartphones, 1″ to compact market and ff at top, and pushing all industry that way, the world can not see it rigth now, but sony its in the driver seat of the photography industry, its in control and canikon as well as others dance at sony song, who say that killing the compact market by doing great smartphones cameras was not in sony plan 10 years ago (the ones that get hurt the most were canikon) if sales go up or down, or get in cycles, or whatever, sony does not care as long as they everyone buys their sensors, they own the market that way
    if sony realese a PRO camera next year, they may gain market share, but the real goal, its to show the world how they made the greatest sensor, and every manufacter needs to buy it, or they will be behind
    sony putting cameras at prices like this one, its for others manufacters cut prices and reduce their profits, sony really does not care if cameras prices go very low, canikon will feel the pain, as in now a few buy $9,999 cameras, photographers who buy expensive cameras is shrinking, even canikon model lines reflect that, and sony really dont care they are making the same money from each sensor they sale, the profit collapse in the industry dont hit sony as hard as canikon or others that sell a camera for 3 to 10 times the money they took built it.

  6. Looks like Amazon screwed up. It wouldn’t be the first time. I have a buddy who actually makes it a hobby to surf Amazon for these types of mistakes. If it clears shipping your good to go. Looks like a few people may have made out quite well. Good for them, they’re excellent cameras and at that price- it’s a STEAL.

  7. This is normally the start of a huge price drop of second hand prices. Few people are willing to pay more for a second hand camera than what the new price has been, even for a short while. I had this experience when the 16-70 was almost half price on amazon.co.uk some month ago. After that, the second hand market price for that lens dropped by a third.

    1. I wish it would drop by a third (the SEL1670Z used pricing) here in the U.S. You can’t blame the seller for wanting maximum resale value though.

  8. Such deals will happen only in the USA. Why not in Europe and why not in Asia. People live in other continents as well!

    1. They would not be able to sell more of them in these parts of the world even if they knocked off $1000. That is why!

  9. Wow, lucky me. I ordered the a7r and had it in 24 hours due to my proximity to a Ft. Worth inventory center. It arrived brand spanking new. The bag, grip, and card haven’t shipped yet

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