Update: now soooold out!
Amazing! Sony A7r with vertical grip, SD card and bag for $1,396 only at Amazon US (Click here). This is directly sold by Amazon!!!! It’s $700 lower than the sole body and you get all that stuff extra too!
found via MirrorlessRumors (Thanks!).
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And here is a direct link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PIGTMHI/
Dang it Sony. Your killing my resale value and pretty much making my mind up that the 7r won’t be fixed with firmware. I get that the 7r was a reach and would probably be updated much faster than other bodies but heck guys. At this rate us early adopters are barely going to get a grand for it. This is kinda rude as I recently got 2400 for my 5dmk III.
Meh…
welcome to Sony, where technology is on the bleeding edge but not very polished or well thought out 🙂
Man…
I really wish they would just release the new one with the fixes already. While the camera’s great for landscaping its dang frustrating on commercial jobs. We actually came dang close this week to moving back to Canon. Which I don’t want to do as they just don’t seem to be evolving(looking at you new 7d), that said, despite how amazing the IQ is when you get it…the inconsistency of the 7r is infuriating.
Soo..
Dear Sony,
Make with the pony…some of us are out there working with this body every day and really aren’t able to wait a few months for you to get around to releasing the fixed body. By fixed I mean an AF system which works as the 7s(at least), and a remedy for the plethora of random soft shots. Your on the cusp of releasing a more pro oriented body…don’t take so much time that we won’t be able to wait for it.
This is the story with every Sony still camera I’ve used. Awesome potential and glaring issues. They pull you in with headline features like object tracking, but fail to mention the features always come with some caveat, and work inconsistently.
Ugh. Too muchx time these days lurking on rumor and tech sites waiting for a body which can focus and shoot(meaning not randomly soft for no decent reason.). Again, wish they would just release the new one already. Working people need tools which work dang it :p
Just bought an a7r a couple weeks ago, so this kinda sucks. That being said, I just bought this deal. I’ll probably flip it on ebay or craigslist
If by a couple of weeks you mean 2 weeks, maybe you could still return it and buy this today instead?
Actually, thats not a bad idea 🙂
I hope you did not actually buy one to flip. The price is good enough to buy but not good enough to flip.
This is really amazing. Did Sony have a 24-70 2.8 and a 70-200 2.8, this would be the moment for me to switch to Sony. Without those lenses though, it’s a no go. I like my Canon glass. And no, the converter thing is not a good solution. I need fast AF.
Sad, really sad. I’m looking at you Sony. Please bring out some good quality pro glass at the Canon price, and I’ll be all in.
Sony does indeed have all that f2.8 zoom glass you desire. As they put it, E-Mount and A-Mount are “one system”. Just get the LAEA-4 adapter and do the Sony dance.
Sadly, not all the functionality of the A7R works with the A-mount glass through the adopter. I looked into this already and tried it out in B&H as well. As an example eye-AF doesn’t work with A-mount lenses. This would be one of the reasons for me to switch. Whenever one of my friends takes a picture of me my eyes are never in focus. And no, you can’t each iDiots how to focus a DSLR…
This is just one example. As I understand other things don’t work as well either.
In addition, Sony’s 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 are not as sharp as Canon’s. Hell, nobody’s is.
The main advantage of going with Sony e-mount is the compact size and well the nice dynamic range of the A7s, getting that stupid looking adapter and sony A-mount lenses would defeat the whole reason to switch if you have a working Canon or Nikon setup… well in my opinion…
Just switched from 5DIII to A7S on Monday, yes i did feel a bit sick dropping the 16-35II, 35 F2.0, 24-70 F2.8 and 70-200 2.8 II for a 70-200 4.0 Sony, but selling the Canon kit gave me enough cash to replace it with a A7S, A6000, 24-70, 70-200, grip, 10 batteries, metabones for my ancient manual Nikon F1.2 glas and a LOT of fun. Carrying a 24-70 + 70-200 in the same small bag that used to only fit a canon body with 24-70. Do i miss 2.8? not on the 70-200, and so far not on the 24-70, i used to stop both of the canons down to F4 anyway and these new Zeiss lenses are just as sharp.
Ok so the Canon 70-200 is a monster and I loved the image but this mirrorless stuff has so many simple advanced I’m very happy, so happy the nightmares have stopped and I can ignore any and all canon news. Still keeping my 100mm macro and 100-400 chick magnet, hoping Sigma comes up with a nice 150-600 E-mount just to have some fun in nature.
I’m not suggesting you switch but I’m happy I did, for now anyway… maybe it turns out I should have kept the canon set, I only sold it because it just felt wrong having two different sets.
The A7S is quite a beast. Especially for video. Good luck with your new system.
I’m keeping an eye on Sony. I don’t understand why they can’t make those A-mount lenses fully compatible with the FE mount bodies.
Also, what Sigma’s design chief said in an interview worries me a bit. He said Sigma is not making FE mount lenses because it is really hard to make high quality FE mount glass. He said he has the impression that the E-mount as designed for APS-C sensors only. Apparently it’s a ted too small. One would assume it vignettes a lot?
How is the AF compared to the 5D3 please?
Sounds logical, FF and getting light into the corners with such a short flange is not going to be easy. Using a lot of vintage Nikon lenses on the A6000 and will do some tests with the A7S tomorrow to check out the vignetting. As for AF, well any Z-axis tracking doesn’t seem to be as impressive as on the 5D3, but for me this isn’t a big problem I have always been mostly manual or spot focus / recompose shooter. for manual focusing it is fantastic, I love the zoom option inside the EVF, checking focus on a Nikon 55mm F1.2 lens is fun. You can isolate a single person on a street full of people, and know they are in focus.
For action stuff, I had a few pleasant surprises, still need to figure out when exactly it is the camera takes the picture, there seems to be some kind of pre-buffer, sometimes it feels the camera is shooting an image from before I pulled the trigger. But with 11FPS it is hard to tell wth is going on sometimes 🙂
Sounds good. I see you’re loving it.
I’m on this site because I’m considering switching. It’s just a question of time if Canon doesn’t step its game up on the mirrorless font. They are WAY behind. To that comes how much behind they are on sensors. Glass and third party accessories on the other hand…
Unless you have a reason like mine: great video quality and a bad back from 30 years of carrying heavy camera’s, I would wait for the pro body they promised. weather sealing is non existing on the A7S, the mount is flimsy, when I mount the 100-400 I have to put a big rig around it in fear of the lens ripping the mount of the camera. No I don’t mount the camera expecting it to carry the lens, that would probably break the camera in two. The EVF is cool but needs work, would be perfect if you could angle it. Yes I still love it, the freedom of lightweight, especially with the A6000 to be honest. I also feel the lenses are sharper then the Canon, probably because they are designed just for this camera (A7S) and are a perfect match, unlike the Canon glass which is suppose to fit on whatever model they produced.
But that is a subjective opinion, I sold everything before doing tests, and yeah like I said I felt physically sick when selling that 70-200, loved the image from that lens so much 🙂 It is an adventure of discovery so perhaps that is what I enjoy most, can’t say if the quality is there at the same level. Did manage to capture one image that has it all though and a producer got upset I didn’t watermark it but just handed it to the artist. This would not have happened with the 5D3 simply because I would never have shot 6FPS non stop in a quiet theater. The A7s is completely silent so you can shoot it almost like it’s a movie. Perfect for performances.
anyway, sorry for the long answers, I hope it gives you some perspective. You can always start with a A6000 but the kit lens is a bit of a disappointment in low light, but it’s lovely for long lens nature stuff because of the APS-c. It’s a nice ‘my first sony’ mirrorles starter kit.
Thank you ChtotaKoya! I may get one of those little A6000s. I note that I owned the RX100, and currently own the RX100II. Got both the first week they came out. I love them. Sony has something really great going on. Let’s hope they continue to charge ahead and take share form CaNikon.
I’m in the same boat! Switched from my 5d3 and C100 to an a7r and a7s. So far I’m loving the image quality, though functionally it is still a bit slow in my hands. Hoping I’ll get used to it
A7S with XLR kit is a really nice compact little camera, anything personal becomes relaxed and informal because it almost looks like a toy. I know the feeling, messed up a few pictures by turning the wrong dial, but saved it because it was raw and magically recovered the blown out images.. Also use DMF and focus zoom a lot of check and double check stuff, shooting manual with auto iso most of the time.
No more nightmares? What sort of nightmares did Canon give you? Care to explain?
Care to explain where it says Canon gave me nightmares? Canon didn’t give me anything, I had to buy everything.
You wrote “this mirrorless stuff has so many simple advanced I’m very happy, so happy the nightmares have stopped “. It sounds like you had nightmares with your old gear.
Well i guess that’s what you can read into it if you really want to, it is actually about worrying if switching and selling everything was the right choice. The 5D3 with the 70-200 II was a killer combo for photography.
I got to the page. 4 available. I refreshed and it said “Available Nov 17.” I bought it anyway, but I have a feeling this is a pricing error.
Funny there were 12 available when I clicked the link. Refresh browser and only one left.
Refresh immediately and now out of stock until Nov 17th.
Must be clearing stock for the 2015 a9 announcement.
Now it says “sign up to be notified when this item becomes available”.
cool so I guess that means the new pro FE cameras are not going to have dslr pro prices.
Maybe the case of ‘too good to be true’. Of course, I jumped in to order one and, no luck.
I beat the rush and picked one up early on Saturday morning. It shipped Saturday night and arrives today.
Toy Camera at Toy Prices.
HULK curious, holding mount of shameful wobblyness vertical make less wobble?