RX10 firmware download at Sony US, Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Italy, Sony Spain, Sony Holland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Norway, Sony Sweden, Sony Portugal. It adds following improvement:
Enables shooting 60p/30p/24p/120p movies in the XAVC S format that supports high bit rates (1920×1080) 50p/25,(1280×720) 100p, (1920×1080) 60p/30p/24p,(1280×720) 120p
Note: When shooting a movie in the XAVC S format, ensure that an SDXC card of Class 10 or faster is used.
RX100m3 firmware download at Sony US, Sony Germany, Sony UK, Sony France, Sony Italy, Sony Spain, Sony Holland, Sony Belgium, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Norway, Sony Sweden, Sony Portugal. It adds following improvement:
This update improves stability in rare cases where the unit does not turn due to low remaining life of the internal back-up battery (used to maintain the date and time)
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1st blood! can consider A7/A7r if have similar freebie, but i doubt lol…
I hope a firmware that release XAVC S firmware for A7/A7R and the internal 4k for A7S…
Internal 4k for A7s is hardly expectable as it would make people who bought the Atomos mad and eventually the guys at Atomos too.
True. If SOny thought that internal 4K on the A7s just required a bit more firmware work, they wouldnt have invested so much marketing money in Atomos.
or just 10sec internal 4k… (like a alternate burst mode.)
It is impossible due to (over)heat for 4K internal.
A7S doesnt record 4K Internally because its like the NEX7(this guy Overheats recording 1080P after about 5mins at maximum quality 28MB/s typically) the body while being metal wasn’t designed to dissipate the amount of heat the sensor is putting out while recording 4K. The rumor is A7S basically did the same thing recording 4K internally. 5mins or less and overheat. So instead of people complaining about that heat all the time. They intentionally leave it out. Heck external 4K recording makes it hot already.
It’ll probably need a bigger body or when they refine the sensors on the next-gen to put out less heat and design better cooling.
They really need to at least put XAVCS into the A6000 though. It’s got a bigger body than the A5100 so heat can’t be the problem. And if the RX10 can get it in firmware then it should be fine the A6000.
If they already made some compromises with the shutter due to the lack of internal space inside the A7’s bodies, unless they change the form factor or launch a new line up, I don’t really expect the overheating issue to go away.
Sincerely, I don’t get this kind of decision, sometimes this “we need the smallest FF ever” thing gets a little out of hand. I would had rather a better heat dissipation, proper shutter, etc. instead of some milimiters less.
But my guess is that they either plan to launch a new line up or they plan to let some of those extra feats for the upcoming A99II or possibly the FS100 successor, we’ll see.
Sure, but if Sony release just a 10sec 4k internal recording on A7S, it’ll be so great. See it like a alternate burst mode.
Regardeless if the A7s can do 4k or not….its VITAL that it NOT do 4k.
Sony has several new 4K camcorders that would hurt badly if the A7s had internal 4k. That is way too dangerous. The camera is already amazing enough to dent sales if upper Sony Pro models.
Remember…the Sony Pro department hates the A7s. They hate competing against it….it hits them too close to the heart.
It still irks me that with the A7s, Sony FINALLY came out with a great for 4k filmmaking, it’s at a reasonable price, and the only camera they put it in is so small it requires a huge, expensive, cumbersome, arrest-me-because-I-don’t-have-a-permit style rig. Another win for intentional crippling.
small = intentional crippling ??? small size is what everyone that buys into the e mount looks for, if the a7 cameras here big, they would flop hard since theres tons of competition on that segment plus if you want a big camera you already have the A mount.
I’m sorry but you missed the point pretty badly. I didn’t say the a7s or any of the a7 cameras were intentionally crippled; I meant, like the F5 scandal, the sensor its self is intentionally crippled by placing it in only a small camera. And yes I do have an A mount. Can you give me the model number of the regular bodied A mount where they put the 4k several hundred thousand ISO sensor of the a7s? I must have missed it.
Yes for A7 and A7r XAVC
BRING it to the A6000, already.!! Although i’m pretty sure Sony will bring the update with a new camerabody.. Sadly enough..
Why this negative? They did the update for the RX10, they could have come with a new body too. I think that (when it is possible) they will do it with the A6000 and who knows with the A7 series too!
I think they will, too. I’m sure they must know that everybody is asking for it. I just hope they’ll do sooner rather than later.
Maybe the FW update fore these cameras will be bigger, with more other things in it that people want.
Same tech and code on sensor and processor, it wouldn’t be a engineering miracle to duplicate the same thing on the A7 series.
BUT, since there is a new FE camera coming out, why would Sony upgrade the old model to get in its own way? I bet the firmware upgrade for A7 series would come after Xmas, if there is one.
Which would actually be kind of smart, no? If it gets the feature eventually, no reason to stand in Sony’s way to actually make a decent profit at what they do. Win-win.
bad hobbit..! bad hobbit!
Please, do the same for all the Alphas! A7(R) and A6000! Pretty please Sony!
I love competition. Unfortunately A7, A7r, A6000, A5000 and NEX-5T are not as lucky as to have credible competition. Even the new Olympus body just released features worse codec…..
How about a77II?
Indeed.
Voted +1
Personally, I think a77II is a great camera although it’s not the best. I believe its hardware spec is ready for future firmware upgrade.
I love my Sony RX10.
A little late with this announcement. Many of us have already upgraded both cameras (and some have had to order additional SDXC cards, ha ha.
I just wish the RX100 III does not shut down when the EVF is retracted.
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This is a real pain in the ass, not a rare stability issue.
And one other thing, common for all Sony Alpha and RX cameras – it’s impossible to set a maximum shutter speed time and many people end up with blurry photos…
I hope that Sony is working an a Firmware Update for XAVC-S for every camera that is capable (hardware wise) of recording to this format. Would definitely gain them many brownie points among their user base. Would not stop me from buying new cameras, but would make my existing ones more usable, and build my brand loyalty at the same time.
Well the RX10 and A6000 are probably the only ones worthwhile. A7 and A7R are probably a bit pointless, XAVC-S isn’t going to save them.
whys that?
Because it isn’t the codec that is letting them down.
What is it?
Line skipping, moire, aliasing, lack of resolution…
Sorry, but how can 36 MP be not enough resolution? Whenyou want the optimum in resolution you have to skip the AA filterm but when you do you may introduce some moire… Lineskipping is indeed degrading the video quality. Strange enough the A7 and A7r are popuair enough, so a little bit extra FW could help to boost their sales even more.
@nevercat:disqus
Lineskipping == reducing resolution
You are skipping to reduce the sensor resolution from native stills resolution to 1920×1080, so the actual sensor resolution doesn’t matter. In fact, the higher the sensor resolution, the worse the video, because you are using less and less of the actual sensor area (the pixels you do end up using get smaller and smaller with increasing pixel density).
The fix is to do some sort of pixel averaging, but many cameras simply can’t do that at sensor level, so it is done via filtering during video encoding (essentially a blur). Because this filtering doesn’t know the difference between small, distant detail and the effects of lineskipping (they looks the same), you end up with video that is weak on detail. This is why something like the A77 mk 1 is atrocious on distant foliage for example. It looks to be this way because of the video bit rate (28Mb/s), but its actually the filter: upping the bitrate will not help.. you can tell this by looking at the bitrates in the final file: the A77 never actually *ever* comes close to 28Mb/s because the smoothing filter throws away a lot of detail before the AVCHD encoder even gets to it..
Worse, the pipeline is fixed in hardware, so you can’t change it later in firmware.
The GH2 is a special case: it uses a config table to define how the sensor pixels are merged and the bitrate, so a config change can change the output video for the better, because you can change *both* the averaging algorithm *and* the bitrate. Early Sonys use a fixed pipeline, so config changes are impossible.
What Sham says. A7 and A7R have clean HDMI output so you can record uncompressed, but the video does not really get any better.
Yawn…….
Wow, this is new from Sony. I guess the FZ1000 really bothered Sony, first a considerable price drop and now a not-just-a-bug-correction firmware update, in other ocasions Sony wouldn’t have bothered, or maybe just to say that it couldn’t do it due to hardware limitations or some excuse of this sort. I hope this new Fuji-like trend continues and spread through out some other recent cameras from Sony that happens to use the same processor! It would be nice if they could announce some new lenses for the APS-C E-mount cameras as well, to pair up with their latest cameras, which have been getting some pretty nice reviews.
You kind of knew XAVC-S is coming since the camcorder version of the camera always supported the codec. Of course, that camera also supports 4K recording.
Not really, there have been plenty of examples in which Sony could had significantly improved a camera via firmware and they simply chose not to. It’s not a really a matter of whether they can, much more wherether they will – and usually they didn’t. So, if this is a Fuji-like thing, even if just a quarter of it or if it’s just because of external competition, it’s welcomed but I can’t say it was expected.
I always laugh when people say that firmware updates that improve cameras was somehow invented by Fuji 😛
I always laugh when people invent things that are not written or create an out of context nonsensical interpretation that has nothing to do with the actual subject of the conversation. But hey, it’s the Internet, right? LOL.
Did you or did you not say this was a Fuji-like update? In fact you said it multiple times did you not? So why not another brand? Hmmm?
But in this case I agree, like Fuji it should have had this firmware from the start, that’s the only thing “Fuji-like” about this update.
So, let’s get this straight, if I say that it’s a Fuji-like update multiple times it means I think they invented it? C’mon mr. Fanboy, I’m sorry that you feel so defensive about a harmless comment, who cares. But I know what your are trying to get into and I really don’t care. LOL.
Well what did you mean? To say this suggests that it is Fuji-like specifically, which is patently false. This also suggests that it is unlike Sony, which again is simply false. It is not about being afanboy, it is just about dispelling myths, like the one about the ‘great’ Fuji updates.
No firmware update for the rx100 and Mk II?
Well does the MK1 and MKII have the problem the firmware fixes on the MKIII?
I would like the auto iso in manual mode that the mk III has.
They are quite different cameras from what I have read. RX10 has full sensor read out do the RX100 series have that? This readout means that the processor is really really beefed up.
wow this is awesome news, I thought Sony would not bring XAVC-S to the RX10, I’m a happy customer.
Awesome news. And after a big price cut too. Now, if there’s no exciting 4K products announced for Photokina (waiting to hear about the Panny LX1000), the RX10 is totally on my buy-list now!!
FZ1000 LX1000 Sony fear. Is rare rare rare that sony update firmware with new characteristic
Really isn’t that rare, sorry.
The guy called himself Lumix 🙂 do you expect him to be objective
So you’re saying the $300 price drop and firmware update to add XAVC-S to a camera release before the a6000 (which didn’t get one, at least not yet), has nothing to do with the recent release of the Panasonic FZ1000. I don’t own either, but you’re delusional if you think otherwise.
RX10 was designed as a video / photo hybrid camera. It’s video features are a main part of the product. The first camera in Sony’s lineup to have the new processor including XAVC-S was the CX900, released 6 months after the RX10. Followed by the RX100 III and A7S. It makes absolute sense for this upgrade, which seems to me wasn’t ready at launch of the RX10. The price drop is normal for a camera of its age, people were already buying at a significant discount and street prices haven’t changed much. However yes, the RRP change is likely in response to competition, which is also pretty normal.
Obligatory RX1/R lack-of-firmware-update compliant.
RX1/R probably don’t have the Bionz X processor and can’t run XAVC
Hungry… so hungry…
I wonder if other cameras using this image processor can be updated to provide XAVC-S support (A6000, A77II).
No update for Mac users?
Mac OS X is literally the first item on the list of operating systems.
Strange, am I that blonde? I really don’t see it. Which country are you looking?
I noticed this as well, Australia now has the mac version up.
Thanks! Very helpful.
No update for Sony A6000 to get a leveling gauge ???
On some sites it’s written sony A6000 has an accelerometer ( http://versus.com/en/sony-a6000) some sites wrote the contrary. However with an accelerometer will it be enough to get level gauge in firmware update?
I have A6000 and it does not recognise camera orientation. You have to fiddle with this aspect in your image editor i.e. all files are recorded as landscape. Not a big deal but I believe they have removed the HW
great move by Sony. I shoot the Panny GH4 for video but would have preferred either the RX10 (for the motorized f/2.8 zoom) or the A6000 / 16-70/4 ziess combo (for the smaller size). The lack of a decent codec that exceeds 28Mbps was one major reason I picked neither one.
If the A6000 supports XAVC-S the choice would be automatic. The DR of A6000 video wins hands down.
now it’s gonna be a really hard choice.
What prevents Sony from releasing a firmware that enable the RX100 & Rx100 II to use their apps?
Other than that their marketing team (which is totally clueless) told them not to, is there any technical reasons?
Well RX100 didn’t have WiFi. RX10 doesn’t support apps either. I spoke to some Sony execs when they were launching the A7S and RX100 III about the RX10 getting apps (I wanted timelapse) and XAVC-S. At the time they said that apps wasn’t going to happen but XAVC-S was possible. At least you can get remotes now for the RX10 etc.
If the RX10 can utilize xavc, the rx100-2 should be able to do so as well.
Why? They don’t share the same image processor and while the sensor is pretty similar it definitely doesn’t do full sensor readout.
The sensor of the RX10 and 100-2 is the same (also the same as the mark III). It could be a processing power issue. The mark II does not run play memory apps unlike the mark III. However it may just be withheld for product differentiation / pricing difference justification between the II and the III.
Well no camera that does not have the new processor has XAVC-S it can probably be assumed that it is a processing issue. Or a coding issue.
They don’t share the same processor. Rx100m2 uses BIONZ n Rx10 uses BIONZ X
Just a heads up those who have SDHC class 10 cards it will not work with XAVC-S you need SDXC cards, I even tried the Sandisk Extreme pro SDHC it will not work
Heads up? It is clearly stated on the box, in the documentation, and on every review I’ve read of the RX100M3, which uses the same codec. Shouldn’t be news to RX10 owners who read sites like this one, DPreview, etc. SDXC cards use exFat whereas SD cards use Fat32. Not rocket science.
But for codec, there should not be a difference. It is just sloppy programming.
FAT32 has is 4GB file limited.
So if you take a 32GB card and format in exFAT what happens?
So what? You can always split long video into 4GB segments. Or just set the limitation when using cards formatted with FAT32. Not supporting it at all is sloppy.
You mum is sloppy. It’s called implementing to a standard. Why have sloppy spanning files in 2014 when we can just not use ancient FAT32? Anyone who NEEDS XAVC-S won’t mind needing an SDXC card (apart from little girls on this forum, who think they ‘need’ it that is).
The programming, requiring SDXC when most cards are still SDHC and many of them can easily take the video, is sloppy. Just failed to write the right code, or perform the right testing.
I hope the a6000 will get the same update to compete with it’s own a5100 in terms of video quality.
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I hope that Sony notice the positive response to this firmware upgrade and do the same for the a6000. Imagine how great a camera that would be!
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That is a great surprise. Glad to hear that Panasonic keeps Sony on its toes. 🙂
Sorry what does Panasonic have to do with it? Oh you mean that Sony launched the RX10, then later launched the similar CX900, AX100, RX100 III and A7S, all featuring XAVC-S on the same hardware before the FZ1000 and this has something to do with Panasonic?
Sony only got to lowering price of RX10 and updating its firmware to include XAVC after Panasonic released FZ1000 making RX10 not competitive in video. Otherwise, they would just wait to the next RX10 iteration to include that codec.
Which is purely speculation. There is absolutely nothing at all to base this on.
Except the timing and the features. They had 9 months to update it after AX100 with the same sensor and processor, but updates ONLY after FZ1000. And they lowered the price like day or two after announcement of FZ1000. Don’t tell me it is a coincidence. 🙂
As peeves said. Thanks Panasonic for keeping the pressure on Sony : )
I hope Sony decide to steel Panasonics cake and issue X-AVC update for all post RX10 models.
If they can also have 10 bit output on the HDMI so that at least A7s stands toe to toe with GH4 on specs and beats it by far as sensor
I really don’t get why people think the A7S needs to compete with the GH4?
Great news, for me the video codec on the RX10 was the only drawback on this camera, if the a6000 doesn’t get this upgrade then i gonna buy a RX10, just for the video.
Now we just need to see the update which will remove the recording length limit!!
If only…. :-/
Oh, and make them all be switchable world cams too!
How about a Mac version of the RX10 firmware?
The Mac version is on many sites. I used the Chinese site as it was the first one reported to have the new FW. Doesn’t make any difference from where you get the file.
How about a link to the Chinese site? I checked all the sites above and none had the Mac version
Try the Australian site (not listed up there) that’s where I found mine.
Forget the request. I found it. Thanks for the tip.
I just bought my one, about one week ago! I’m more than happy 🙂
I do not see the firmware update at the Sony eSupport website U.S. Am I missing something?
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=DSCRX10&template_id=1®ion_id=1&tab=download#/downloadTab
Nope. I can’t see it either. I read on another board some were going to the UK site to download. I’m waiting, hopefully not too long.
Thanks for the confirmation. Thought I was missing something.
There are plenty of websites that offer it; I used the Chinese one (posted there first, I think a day or two ago, according to threads on DPreview) for my RX10 and US (I think) for my RX100M3. It’s the same file everywhere.
Awesome, thanks for the info! I had a feeling that was possible.
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/model-home.pl?mdl=DSCRX10B&LOC=3#/downloadTab
http://esupport.sony.com/US/p/swu-download.pl?mdl=DSCRX10B&upd_id=9963&os_group_id=6
XAVC-S for Alpha 7 Please!
Are there different update files for NTSC-only cameras and world cameras?
Because the OSX updates only seem to be available in NTSC-countries so far. I don’t wanna loose my PAL :O