The video on top shows you a Sony NEX-6 vs NEX-7 vs A6000 AF test. Again, in normal light conditions the A6000 simply rocks!
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Is it just me or is the shooter taking his time on the 6 and 7 and then going full throttle on the a6000?
Nah, it’s not only you. But, if you observe the finger (not visible with NEX-6), you will see after pressing the button, the A6000 does focus faster (actually reacts and makes the picture faster than NEX-7 does). However the tester is also lagging more on the NEX-7.
I agree. The test only shows that the faster you press the shutter, the more pictures you take.
true. pre-focus is also on for the a6000.
I’m watching it frame by frame now which means the below is accurate to about 1/30th of a second. a6000 is claimed to be 0.006s in top conditions which is roughly 1/166th of a second.
—Recomposing—
NEX7: He waits about 5 frames after the LCD appears again after shutter press before moving with the NEX7 and takes longer to reach the next object too. It’s difficult to tell how many he takes to move because he half presses before he stops the camera.
a6000: He instantly moves (0-1 frame) or is already moving after LCD appears
—AF—
I had a look at this too but it’s too difficult to tell, and given pre-focus is on that doesn’t help. The LCD goes black on NEX6 and a6000 (didn’t bother with NEX7) cameras before the green AF appears. After the LCD appears again the shot looks in focus (as far as that tiny screen is concerned) and the green AF is there. NEX 6 is about 5-7 frames and a6000 is 1 frame till fully black screen from menu item fading from shutter press. a6000 is already pre-focused however, not sure if you can turn NEX6’s off but it didn’t look like it was pre-focusing. Some people might not care and see it as helping regardless, others may not want it on for their shooting style or to conserve battery. A current NEX already focused may snap just as fast if it doesn’t hunt away from focus.
I think it only seams that way because you would have to press the button faster because it locks on faster. I plan to get one and see for myself because I don’t think these test prove anything. I really could care less since I was fine with my nex-6. What I care about is how accurate it is. What is the point if is fast but you have to take the shot again.
Get those damn teddybears running back and forth and redo the same test. Then we talk. #useless
I agree.
These simple tests mean nothing.
Fantastic performance with *high contrast backgrounds*! Awesome accuracy in *perfect* lighting.
These aren’t the situations we care about!
Bring on the low-light performance tests or perhaps show us the tracking ability with a fast moving athlete. Perhaps show us how well the AF system can pick out the subject from a complicated background.
These tests would mean something.
Great ! Please perform your own low light tests and share the results.:)
Not everyone’s disposable income is that flexible. Bills to pay.
Marco says he has purchased a A6000 so in a few days time he will be more than able to perform such a test. 🙂
Can’t see any difference in this conditions between 6-7-6000
The A6000 is fractionally faster than either the NEx7 or nex6. Not a huge difference but its there.
It rather seems like the operator is pressing shutter button more frequently with A6000, it doesn’t tell anything about AF speed, the overall frame rate is still like 1,5-2fps, which is perfectly achievable with all of the above cameras. This video is more a projection of wishful thinking than a real test
I agree. More than anything reviewer was trying to “show” that a6000 is faster not that it really is.
That just proves the point. With the faster autofocus, he was able to press the shutter more often in the same amount of time. Like BrendonF, I did also notice that it is fractionally faster. Is it enough to upgrade from my NEX 6? Not sure yet. I’m more intererested in how well the object tracking will do. I’ve had too many out of focus or blurry motion shots of my kids in action in poor lighting situations.
Shooting static objects in good light conditions with a tripod and short focal length must be the ultimate camera focus speed test.
I have pre-ordered this camera but these “tests” are totally useless.
Great once you get the camera please show us some real AF tests rather than whining.
It seems you’re whining much more than the one above you.
Great, then please do your own tests when the A6000 comes out and stop whining and criticizing people who actually took trouble to help others. You could try messaging the Youtube user who uploaded the video asking him for more tests if possible.
Currently your whining about these tests is far less useful that the video. 🙂
The truth is that for fast AF of static subjects in decent light no camera has issues if one happens to be 1/100th of a sec doing so is pretty much irrelevant. The issues with all mirrorless cameras are C-AF, tracking and in particular low light { low light is particularily annoying as these cameras are great for social activities , which are often in dimly lit situations}. Before moving to Sony with the A7r as a back up to my D800e I used the Olympus E-M1 which is supposedly as good as it gets re AF alas it was little better in low light or C-AF than my GH3 which I kept for its excellent video.
The idea of looking for “tests” before you buy is to help determine if the camera is what you need. Buying stuff hoping it will work is pretty silly and all the camera makers have examples of just this scenario.
I would never consider indoor lighting where you need ISO 400 to get 1/60 shutter speed with f4 as decent light but to each his own.
The lighting conditions you describe are more than decent, they are very favorable. What I’d really like to see is how these new cameras perform in more extreme situations, eg. concert photography, let’s say ISO6400 to get 1/200s with 85/1.4 lens (at f/1.4 of course). These are the typical conditions my A99 copes with 1-2 times a week, and does it quite well thanks to focus range limiter and very sensitive center AF sensor. I would gladly stop dragging a backpack with camera and lenses for such commisions and use light, small A6000 with pancake lens instead, but I don’t believe it is possible right now, unless some test proves me wrong. What makes me sceptical towards OSPDAF is that in my current setup I get 9/10 shots in focus with AF-S while only 1/10 with OSPDAF-based AF-D.
If you are shooting a reasonably slow paced concert (i.e. not too many people running around) then the A6000 should be able to cope up. However you may not like the results at ISO 6400.
For ISO 6400 you should ideally consider the A7/A7r instead though neither of these cameras have a capable tele lens.
I can ensure you that if I ever post any tests online, I will make sure they has some real world applications. Testing for the sake of testing is silly. I was trying to point out the flaws in the testing methods, which might or might not be helpful for other potential buyers.
I don’t see how your comment helps anybody more than my whining does. KTHXBAI.
If you read my post correctly I pointed out you are barking up the wrong tree. Message the original poster and ask him for more tests. Posting here doesn’t do any good.
I find the tests adequate to improve my understanding of AF speeds of the 3 cameras. They can of course be improved but for me at least appreciate that the tester took time and effort to make such a video.
Sony said the A6000 has the world’s fastest auto-focus of any APS-C mirrorless camera meaning it’s better than what, Fuji?
Its faster than any APSC Camera, including DSLR.
” Among interchangeable-lens digital cameras equipped with an APS-C image sensor as of February 12, 2014, based on Sony research. Measured using internal method with E PZ 16-50mm F3.5-5.6 OSS lens mounted. CIPA guideline compliant.”
You’re absolutely right! – And I was wrong. I remember reading mirrorless, but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Sorry for this!
Honestly that statement is mostly marketing BS. I wouldn’t read too much into it. Generally what you can take out of the statement is that AF is improved compared to the previous generation mirror-less cameras from Sony.
fuji said they had the fastest , but several reviews show that it’s not fast at all
Urgh. I cant imagine living somewhere with that much noise polution.
To ADMIN : It’s faster indeed, but what about low light conditions ? I would like to see these AF performance in the A77 II, but when will we have even a SR1 rumor about the A77 II ??? ADMIN, you must have that already, let us know that now, thanks.
Surely someone who owns an a6000 has a child with a bike. Please shoot a burst of pics with AF-C and the child cycling quickly towards the camera then show us the full size photos.
perhaps not in China?
Now Sony finally does seem to have an all around mirrorless camera with an AF which does not get in the way and just work. But when will it have a decent, small and affordable 35-40mm equivalent lens which could compete with for example the Fujifilm X100? Or the Panasonic 20mm F1,7 (40mm equivalent)? Something like a 23mm F2 or 27mm F2? Even Samsung has a great 30mm F2 which is a bit too narrow but still great.
I want this fast AF and basically this camera with a full frame sensor. An A6R, no AA filter minimum 24 mp and EVF on the side. I would be interested to see in real life what the EVF on the a6000 is like as I want something that is better than the NEX 7. Also would want at least XAVC-S or better for video.
All these AF test are great but all of them have been with the 16-50 kit lens that has phase detect compatibility. I want to know how fast the AF is with 3rd party lens makers such as the Sigma 19, 30 or the 60mm F2.8 with no Phase detect performs.
Which lens beside kit ones also have phase detection support?
Most of the sel line does. The official list is a little out of date but here you go https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/37074/~/which-lenses-are-compatible-with-fast-hybrid-af%3F
Thanks a bunch, mate.
I’m sure these won’t be significantly faster, although the faster processor hopefully will affect the speed of the CDAF as well.
what with the faster af … what about the low iso ….sample pls!!!
I am anxious to see how rhis new fast AF translates to the new A77II A mount. C.
Today I am off to shoot eagles with my A77 and 50-500 sigma but I would rather be using the new 150-600 tamron that I preordered and is not available yet and the new A77II that supposedly will be available in the summer,
I think that will be a great combination particullarly on aperture priority at f8
Here is another video featuring the AF of the A6000:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfhKtwbqbfc
I’m all for improvements in cameras so this is cool. I do wonder how much of this is a “speed over accuracy” thing. My NEX-7 was never really slow, but it was rarely very “right” on the AF either.
I had the same problem with an a65 and gave up on it. Sony better start getting their act together on this.
Is it only me who thinks speed is already good enough with both NEX-6 and NEX-7 for static objects?
Really looking forward to the next A77 successor… Still wondering if it will have this (or better) af speed with lockable/removable mirror…
Based on this test, I won’t be upgrading from my 6 & 7. I suspect that low light continues to be an issue. Sony marketing would be sure that you knew that low light autofocus had been improved. I’ve not seen those claims.
Where is the low light comparison. Every modern camera focuses fine in decent light.
This test is worthless.
Where are the results ? For all we know the photos are all blurry bs. C’mon let’s see real testing and not crap like this.
Like others, I’m not sure this test means much. 1. depends on how fast the guy is pressing the shutter; 2. static subjects; 3. at F4, much will be in focus anyway.
But for those wanting to see sharp photos from continuous autofocus at 11 FPS of moving subjects, just read the review by Alin Popescu. Although I have not operated one, I do think the autofocus lives up to its claims and hype
http://www.alinpopescu.eu/blog/full-review-focus-tests-sony-a6000-beautiful-dream/
I love fast focus but more concerning to me is slow startup time which all the NEX’s including the new a6000.
WTF is this? He is clearly moving the camera between the two bears faster with the a6000. Test is less than worthless.
if you can’t wait until it arrives in april, just go to a store and try any nikon 1 camera. it will about that fast, which means pretty fast in good light but questionable performance in really bad light. hopefully sony engineers were able to improve the low light af as well.