As reported earlier Sony Australia launched the “move to mirrorless” micro site. And now it uploaded the five video on youtube to promote the mirrorless future. One of them shows an exploding giant mirror. And one of the (A-mount) followers asked the Sony X group what that video means for A-mount . The answer was: “Our focus in Australia is on mirrorless“.
Here are the five videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8waM16cPMyc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqrBXPrUNXw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGWwwyL-jYc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG3sejZYMvk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VltJG4jm7I
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eBay is about to become flooded with A-mount gear…
Why?Its Australia.. AND the gear still takes good pictures.. IF you are a photographer you are doing well with A-mount. If you are an OCD gear collector.. who needs a new body every 6-mounths..Keep Calm..
I’m not saying I’m selling my A-mount gear (even though I think they are
clearly killing A-mount); heck, I just added an A77II to my arsenal
recently (great sports camera!). However, those who are worried about
the end of the line are going to look at the dodgy answer to that
question and panic. There was an initial panic and rush to sell after
Photokina last year, and I expect this will be the next rush. Of
course, they’ll probably be hating themselves if Sony comes out with a
mirrorless A-mount…
I’m waiting in anticipation for another rush 🙂 Even if Sony officially kills A-Mount, and people will dump their gear on ebay, i can’t wait to get a cheap 24-70/2.8 and a 70-200/2.8.
Those are awesome lenses and I could always use them on E-Mount. Heck, if I get them cheap, i’ll even deal with LA-EA4. I’ve been using A65 on center AF point 99% of the time, so wouldn’t make much difference.
I bought a Sigma 70-200mm f2.8 HSM for A-Mount to use with LA-EA4 and it cost me something like $300 because no one here is buying A-Mount gear. Works fantastically well and has a key feature that IMO makes it significantly better than the A-Mounts with the same AF module – micro AF adjustment.
I have picked up heaps of great A-Mount glass at bargain basement prices, most of the time they are cheaper than MF legacy lenses. The adapter works perfectly well and at some point the only major complaint about it (the grouping of the focus points, at least for me) will be rectified.
The more people think a-mount is dead, the better prices get.
I considered the Sigma, primarily for OS function.
How do you like its sharpness wide open at 200? Is is good, Ok, meh, poor, etc?
Was also considering the screw driven version of Tamron, but just cant bear that screw noise after using SSM lenses for so long. And their USD version is the same price as Sigma(new) without OS
Keep in mind that I shoot an A7S, on which just about any lens is superb. I find it to be excellent in every way including using teleconverter. However mine is not the latest OS version, I have the HSM II Macro, I was seriously considering buying the os version until this came up at such an enticing price, I got a 1.4x matching teleconverter for another few bucks.
I actually quite like my version of the Sigma as it is smaller and lighter than many others, has a shorter MFD but is still HSM, in this way I prefer it over my previous Minolta 80-200mm f2.8 HS.
I was just playing around with it on my A580 and it is still very good, but is a little soft wide open at 200mm (this is basically A7R pixel density) BUT this is probably, possibly due to the lack of micro focus adjust on that body and the extreme DoF of 200mm f2.8. I will try MF and see how good it can get when focused perfectly and let you know.
Thanks for that test!
Its hard to judge a lens based on reviews sometimes.
Perfect!
Great! where’s my cheap 70-200/2.8?
It already is. There’s even a thread about how soft the market is for older maxxum stuff over on dyxum. I just purchased a 28-70F2.8G for 400. These were 550-650 a year ago.
Not really a news. Last year during the local hands-on event after a7s and a77ii launches organized by Sony in my country they expreesed pretty much the sentiment – mirorrless is the future and all our focus is on that. Back then they only had one slide about Amount and when confronted directly they pointed out that one can always use those lenses with adapters. Since then all Amount bodies and lenses have dissapeared from stores here, and when asked official sony distributor suggests that one would be better off switching to Emount instead of waiting for any new products.
Their marketing strategy, apart from rare occurances, seems to be erasing all interest and evidence Amount ever existed.
I am ok with that, however for methey are not quite there yet for me to embrace the newsystem as it is still lacking in some respects for what I shoot. They are getiing close though.
a-mount is mirrorless too
yes maybe they wanna make A mount camera without mirror. Is it possible?
When they have E-mount that wouldn’t even make sense
I could see that, a more traditional form factor that’d be more appealing to the DSLR crowd. Loving my A7’s but they are a little slow and quirky (stills wise) coming from a 5D3 background. Some very nice A-Mount glass, some updated recently – and why was that………
Form factor has little to do with presence or abscense of mirror
No kidding………… form factor as in a larger body with hard controls rather than being menu driven like an iPhone.
If Sony decided to focus on mirrorless, why does Sigma and other manufacturers not following this policy? Maybe because this advert is just marketing
I think e mount construction is way too different to SLR construction due to flangle distance and used focus motors. As long they can sell lenses in high numbers, they do not need a 2nd lens-line developed, they can sell only for 10% of camera users.
The market for short-flange, silent steppermotor lenses is still too small.
The future is the mirrorless form factor. Once the new pro FE camera comes out, time to jump ship from A mount.
The A99 replacement is the A9 which is a mirror-less A-Mount
Destruction is still cool, apparently.
Good thing A mount cameras ditched the mirror for a beam splitter.
If only that thing could also flap on demand, like DSLR’s mirror lock-up mode….
Or at least make it small enough, so that it could be manually flipped up. From the looks of it, the way it is designed today, it is blocking some lenses from being mounted, when in “sensor cleaning” mode
The reason why it’s bigger is because it’s thin plastic, so it needs a frame to support it. Size and it not being rigid probably prevents from implementing a flapping design too. They might be able to solve that, but at this point I personally doubt they will spend too much resources to do that.
How it’s good? Longer finder blackout? at least for FF sensors which are unable to readout fast enough.
Sony has mirrorless with IBIS. They have solved burst speed and focus speed on mirrorless. The IBIS models are thick enough to satisfy most people who want larger cameras. If they solve tracking speed on mirrorless, then a Pro A-mount camera is a weather sealed mirrorless A9 with a lens adaptor.
we still expect the adapter to be efficient enough to make E-mount cameras a A-mount camera alike but for now LA-EA adapters still sucks in automatic mode
Yes. I agree. This only works if the focus in the (theoretically upcoming pro mirroless) camera is good enough that the adaptor doesn’t need to do the focusing.
They have not solved focus speed yet, especially in low light. They have not really solved a burst speed while maintaining AF on FF either. They will in future, but that future is not here yet.
Certainly not AF speed, but the specs state the A7s is able to focus at -4EV vs the A99 -1EV AF. That has to count for something.
Please compare thinks with an equivalent body with 24mp , not with a lowlight specalist with 12 mp
A mount has a mirror, a translucent mirror. Without the mirror, then it goes to the on sensor PDAF. But I believe people said that the AF “algorithm” (not sure if algorithm is the right word) between A and E are different … Of course, it would be nice if they can merge the two algorithm. That is, A mount lens can be used on E mount camera with a pass through only adapter, no mirror and no AF module). But if this is achievable, then the mount is just a mount. Then I don’t see the need of A mount .. But the size of the latest 35mm 1.4 and 90mm macro looks like a regular A mount lens with a adapter built in.
As I have been saying for quite a while….Sony has absolutely no intention of continuing the A mount system..but continues to deliberately mislead us to believe they will so they can continue to sell thier existing stock.
They have even gone so far as to update a few lenses to continue the deception.
The leaked document showed no new A mount cameras.
This is why I will not buy any Sony product until I know what is going to happen in the future.
I do not believe any of the multitude of statements by Sony executives that they will continue to support A mount…I believe they are all either outright lies or cleverly worded statements desighned to make us believe what is not true.
Sony I challenge you prove me wrong!…With your actions , not your words!…You want to convince us you are going to support A mount then release a brand new state of the art A mount camera with the latest newest technology!!!!!!
Then if Sony is discontinuing A-mount line, why did they not inform lens manufacturers they are releasing lenses for nothing :p… Indeed who will use these new lenses if there’s no new body.
Sony cares about no one but Sony.
They do not care about thier existing A mount customers
They do not care about 3rd party manufacturers.
And when E mount users have outlived thier usefullness to Sony they will not care about them either.
I am anxious for Sony to prove me wrong but do not expect that to happen.
Sony will convince us…after we have purchased new A mount lenses in anticipation of the new A mount camera that will never come…that they are fully compatable with E mount…while simultaniously convincing us to buy native E mount lenses so we dont need the adapter…which is not as good native E mount!
There will eventually be real mirrorless competition…it will be interesting to see all the cjanges Sony will be forced to make when that happens.
Correct, Sony is a business which main purpose is to earn money. I fear it’s the only way we could get competitive products market.
Lenses are constructed to an optical system.
Nikon F: 46.5 mm flange, Canon/SonyA ~44mm.
Long story short: the lenses are constructed to fit on Nikon, for all other mounts, the lens is 2-3mm longer at the flange.
The lens is constructed only one time, there is one production facility, and there are several available mounts. Sony A mount is an inexpensive by-product, just by attaching another mount. And with the mainstream lenses, 3rd party manufacturers are even making profit on A-mount, cause research and development is quite “cheap”.
ROFLMA… Yes they have no intention.. they just updated all their key FF -amount zooms to trick you.. The market share on DSLR is pretty much locked. Fewer and Fewer new users will go that way. So advertising does very little except salve the insecurities of gear hears using a-mount. Key is that that 8-10% of the DSLR market is still a lot of revenue. Anyone who says its it going away given that they keep developing for it has no clue about business.. (which is why so many new business fail) Also Sony being all alone in Mirrorless is giving them lots of new users who are being advised to dump the Nikon / Canon glass and buy adapters and even used a-mount glass.. Now they are ready to add an a-mount body.. Apple doesn’t advertise Macs but their mobile share dominance has actually seen them pick up some share.. not because of advertising but because ipad users who were PC users are not considering Macs. A Good Sony e=mount it the best Advertisement for trying and a-mount Sony has.. You do know a-mount has been doomed since 2006.. So its like beating your head on a brick wall waiting for it to break to keep saying that.
You are as wrong as you were with the stacked sensor. This is not the end of a mount. Its the start of A9. It will be amount mirrorless 50 mpix a mount camera.
Mmmk, does that mean on-chip PDAF, even on the A7r successor? The LA-EA4 is great, but I’m replacing all my A-mount for E-mount glass.
Doesn’t sound like you have much glass, if you can replace all your A-Mount glass with E-Mount. There are many irreplaceable lenses in A-Mount, or at least until Sony makes a similar one in E-Mount.
Many irreplaceable A-mount lenses? All I needed were the 16-35mm f2.8, 24-70 f2.8, 85mm f1.4 and 135mm f1.8. I sold the zooms in favor of the FE 16-35, 35mm f2.8, 55mm f1.8. When I get my hands on the Batis 85mm, will sell the ZA 85mm. I’ll probably just keep the 135mm unless a better FE version comes out (doubtful), but eye focus would be a nice feature – it doesn’t work with A-mount glass on an adapter.
Clearly you’ve not used the 135mm stf…
I guess it is impossible to use the STF on an E-Mount camera?
Yup, given the last bunch from Sony and Zeiss, they only really miss F2.8 zooms (24-70, 70-200), and perhaps a native prosumer long ~100-400 tele zoom. Using some adapted lenses, like Sonolta STF, Canon T/S, which are manual focus anyway, the real gap is only on the tele end. But I doubt Sony is really focusing on those who need fast long teles (like 300/2.8, 500/4, 200-400/4 etc) at this point, because that’s too niche and with huge investment in lenses, they would be almost impossible to convert.
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totally agree
But for me personally I don’t know if I really would prefer a 70-200/2.8 over the f4 version because of its size and weight. But curiously I would not hesitate to get a FE 70-400 f4-5.6, even if it has the same size and weight as the 70-200 f2.8.
A 24-70 f2.8 is a nobrainer – size and weight would be okay, it is fast enough for indoor, and a decent portrait lens when used @70mm f2.8
Yep, exactly what I was saying. You replaced f2.8 zoom with f4 zoom. a 1.4 prime with a 1.8 prime. Can’t call it exactly replacement. Now if you were OK with slower lenses that’s one thing, but I personally can’t see a reason to dump for example APSC camera with 16-50/2.8 and replace it with FF camera with 24-70/4. The end result will be exactly the same, making the switch pointless.
Now I get the idea of “smaller system with slower lenses”, but you can’t exactly call them a viable replacement. More like an alternative, with it’s own strengths and weaknesses.
“Move to mirror less” is to target the canon and Nikon dslr crowd before canon and Nikon have their own mirror less offerings that don’t suck.
They really might as well be saying “move to Sony”
When the dust settles on mirrorless Sony will rely on the a-mount market much more, especially as many of those higher end lenses remain Sonys competitive advantage in the camera market. My STF lens stands as proof along with the zeiss 85 and 135.
Porsche didn’t drop the 911 when they started making SUVs and I pray Sony continue to diversify their offerings as well. I think it’ll pay off in the long run, when DSLRs are back to being the pro model and Ashton Kitcher is the face of the Nikon mirrorless instead of DSLR. The mass market is changing for sure- in a good way. Sony- you market high res audio gear to the high end market, do the same with DSLR a mount.
Sorry, which of their offerings don’t suck? The v1 and m3 are embarrassing even compared to the a5000…
But the d810/750/610 sales outpace all of Sony’s cameras combined. They don’t suck at all. The N1’s also focus far faster than any Sony.
Nikon must be doing something right with almost 40% of the market.
Nikon sell mainly to hobbyists and prosumers, professionals actually prefer Canon with their ancient but reliable tech and superb service worldwide. BTW, more professional still shooters who also shoot motion, own a Sony rather than a Nikon for their motion requirements. Times are a changin’………
Care to back up that smack with some hard data?
My two local pro outlets claim Sony sales are a joke, barely competing with Oly, Panny, Pentax. They’re more excited about the Samusung futures than Sony. Meanwhile the shelves are honking mad with pro CaNikon and the rental departments are exclusive CaNikon Hassy. Sony’s just a fly in the room barely worthy of sneering chuckles.
You have nothing but anecdotal evidence to support your claim. If Nikon is outselling Sony roughly 4:1 based market share you could hypothesize more motion shooters prefer Nikon, since far more shooters overall are buying Nikon.
As far as pros, NPS is every bit as good as CPS and I see just as many Nikons at NHL/NFL/NBA/MLB games and at NASCAR/INDY races. Again you’re going purely anecdotal with your claim pros prefer Canon. Many switched to the D800 when it was released since Canon has been stuck with its old sensor tech and the D4 has much better high ISO performance than the 1dx or 5d3. That’s a fact.
>NPS is every bit as good as CPS<
Talking about "anecdotal" that's as far off correct as you could possibly get. Nikon used to be superb, but today they're not, if you want first rate pro service, NPS aren't even in the same league as CPS, been there, got the tee-shirt.
BTW, nothing wrong with liking "your choice" but honestly, you guys turn this stuff into some kinda 3rd grade p1ssing competition. I'm not in either the Canon or Nikon camp anymore, but have recommended both systems (even a D810) recently when asked………go figure!
What’s the t-shirt like. I hope it’s 100 percent cotton.
Hemp, and you can’t smoke hemp (but don’t tell the ill-informed amongst us).
Agree when Sony is saying “move to mirrorless” they are targetting the Canikons to move to Sony.
Disagree if you think, dust will settle on mirrorless and DSLRs will have a comeback after the mirrorless dominance. Mirrorless is fresh and the dust has already started to settle down on mirror. You need just some cleverness to see it right now, in 5 to 10 years even the biggest idiot will be able to see it.
I think Sony has simply completely cracked mirrorless wide open.With the a7-hits, the 6000, they’ve pretty much mastered what they’ve needed to make mirrorless the best competitor against the DSLR. I don’t think the a-mount itself is dead, but likely an a99 successor will be mirrorless, likely include a newer gen adaptor, and by that method shoot whatever lens you’ve got, allowing you to change to E at your pace.
Nailed it.
I’d definitely welcome a faster focusing adapter…
Funky but I dig it. I don’t care how I get my A mount crack, just as long as I get it. I need my fix man.
Great! Mirrorless revolution full steam ahead…
It would be great to see a mirrorless A-mount camera
For what purpose?
To see a mirrorless A-mount camera.
taking pictures?
Hmm, they’re won’t be going mirrorless in a dslr style body unless the af speed matches the competition…
NX1 already matches the competition – and it is mirrorless.
Just a matter of time when Sony/Oly/Pana catch up with existing NX1, or even will be better. I don’t think this happens before end of 2015, but I won’t be surprised if the next Sony-mirrorless in May/June can match NX1
Sony Australia strikes again
After their notorious 2013 video (http://tinyurl.com/k6olod2) once again they make fun of DSLR users by calling the A99 an “anchor that you carry around your neck”. Scroll down to “Light & Small” on the Sony Australia page.
Rick James must be in charge of their marketing department
Sony two weeks ago: “Sony maintains commitment to A-mount“
Sony today: “Our focus in Australia is on mirrorless“
F yo couch Canon! F yo couch!
As an a-mount user, I say Sony is a habitual line stepper!
“In Australia”. Sony mirrorless has been very popular here, A-Mount has not, even long before E-Mount emerged.
sony keeps its customers hanging by providing zero info about anything. all the useless vague marketing teasers about nothing are b.s. they never responds to any a-mount question.
Yes .. Vs Canon who has laid out an entire roadmap for the their cameras and Nikon who has give a solid release date for the D400.
Don’t care what canikon is doing. No one asked for ur opinion on canikon
That’s why your opinion doesn’t matter. Canikon dominates the market. SO if you don’t care.. then you have no place telling Sony how to run their business. BTW.. Everyone knows the result of a roadmap. The same people would complain would still do so in this percentage
30% They a doing it Wrong, they need more cheap plastic cameras Sony Sucks,
30% they are doing it wrong they need more FF Sony Sucks,
20% Sony is lying I know it.. Sony Sucks
20% no OVF – Sony sucks
Reality is if you can’t be happy picking up an A77M2 and a 16-50 or what ever current generation lens.. Nothing will make you happy its an amazing camera..
Why would Sony communicate its planning to people who will still be unhappy, and give an edge to the companies they are competing with?
Every time Sony does and AD for e-mount.. A bunch of sad sacks with dust on their cameras.. sitting in their underwear.. Post “A-mount RIP” they have been doing it for 8 years and my only hope is they are not waiting to change the underwear until they are right.
You always vote up your own comments…. that’s quite embarrassing….
People upvoting their own posts… Pathetic.
Nikon never said a D400 will exist, so exactly date of what do you expect?
Sony keeps saying they “are thinking about A-mount” for almost 2 years. It is rather obvious that the SLT lineup will be officially canceled rather soon.
A77II seems good enough to be the final APS-C body. What they need is a good A99II (possibly with the same sensor tech as A77II: 54 MPx).
They would have 2 very good bodies which would support A-mount lens sales for the next 3-4 years.
And after a lot of people buy the A99II, they will announce the A-mount development closed. 🙂
That is the perfect approach from the marketing/earning point of view. We’ll see what happens.
Piotr you would have been one of the ones greeting Columbus telling him he is lying because if he went that far west he would fall off the earth.
We have no idea about the D400 because they like Sony don’t tend to give away plans until they want to announce 9 them (my point) But the Sony people whine a lot more.
They didn’t say “they are thinking about it” They have clearly said they are developing both lines. released one new body in 2014 and a really good one and we expect atleast on more in 2015 And they have updated all the top level zooms recently to be better and AF and with seals etc. This is the silly thing .. People keep thinking Bodies end before lenses.. its the other way around. New lenses mean new bodies for a few years to come.. Because the lens people own is what drives the body sales.. So anyone who thinks there are no more a-mount bodies coming for a few years now lacks some basic common sense. Will they do any more all plastic A58 level cameras I don’t know.. Maybe they will try out mirror less a-mount there first like they did the A55 .. Maybe they just see offering 2 small e-mounts, 2-3 midrange FF e-mounts and 2 large DSLR cameras as covering the segments well. One thing to note is the A77m2 is not the SLT-A77m2 its the ILCA-A77m2 so last year Sony changed the model designations so that its no longer about the mirror. Is the A77m2 the last SLT? have they figured out how to make future cameras work with all a-mount lenses? Or will there be one more round of SLTs at the FF level.
You need to realize sad sacks have been proclaiming a-mount dead for 9 years and have been wrong because most of them are busy worrying about how many cameras other systems have vs taking photos and realizing that with 50+ million a-mount lenses out there.. Sony has a large enough base to sell bodies into for years without a lot of advertising.
This is sooooo going to backfire on Sony long term.
I can’t wait until Canon releases EVF pro body for EF mount. Hate adapting to kiddy toy Sony.
The few CaNikon converts will come rushing home when the real camera companies answer to modern trends. And they’ll do it better with out disenfranchising loyalists lens investment or forcing strobists to adapt.
Pros hate adapters. Nothing reliable comes from them.
Pros hate fly-wire focus. Nothing tactile comes from it.
Pros hate tiny cameras for major workload clients. The only reason we put up with it is because we have to… for now. Enjoy it while you can Sony.
Canon publish on their website a secretive marketing image showing mirror put back together with cello tape 🙂
Incidentally, Sony uses cello tape instead of a actual mirror 🙂
Yep, but Sony are pushing mirror-less cameras, so they don’t have any mirrors.
Canon and Nikon insist on using mirrors.
I don’t think CaNikon really insist, they just stick to olds paths and Sony tries to randomly bump into another ideas hoping it will work
RIP A- mount!
RIPPED A mount!
This will be the start of mirroless a mount. It will be the rumoured a9 it will be mirrorless 50 mpix a mount so stop whining.
Thank you for your input, Mr. Oracle…
“Here are the five videos”
Actually, only one link works…
Apparently Sony broke the links as well…. They love destruction…
Wouldn’t mind the total conversion to mirrorless but I do dislike the fly-by-wire thing. Very, very much. Is that really a necessity in the mirrorless world for AF lenses?
Essentially if you take an average FF lens with mechanical focus and proper gearing (offering the so called “full-time manual focus override”), switching to electric focus motor can save you >100g, >50 USD production costs and possibly even 1cm of lens diameter.
So if you want small and light lenses – electric focus and zoom is the way to go.
And it seems many A7 buyers want small form factor above everything else.
Remember that at this point Sony FE’s primary competition is MFT and the size difference is obvious.
When Canon and Nikon join the race with their FF/APS-C mirrorless, they will offer big lenses. At that point Sony might also switch their approach and offer mechanical lenses, f/2.8 zooms, long teles and other “big” things this system needs.
That said, I’m also not a huge fan of this approach and I’m a 100% still shooter at this point.
But the funniest thing is that lenses with zoom and focus by-wire are marketed as perfect for cinematography. I’m not an expert in the field, but AFAIK it is the other way around. 😀
Sony don’t see MFT as primary competitor for FE. If so, they would have made 40/3.5 rather than 55/1.8. If anything, E APS-C is competitor for MFT.
Sony are not waiting for Canikon to make move, that would be stupid, they are trying to claim uncharted territory.
I don’t think people care whom Sony sees as a competitor. 🙂
Based on price segments, FE is competing with higher MFT models (mostly Olympus M5II and M1). Check some forums (DPR?) and see what people are asking about.
Similarly, GH4 is the main competitor of A7S for amateur videoshooters. Web is full of comparisons – you’ve missed them all? 🙂
APS-C E-mount is not exactly a system. 1 good body and 2 not so good. Few good lenses and few more… bad to awful.
It’s been a while since we’ve seen new APS-C lenses (Q3 2013, only 3 lenses in 2013!). In fact the a6000 is already quite old. “a7000” is constantly delayed. What Sony usually says: FE is a newer system and we concentrate on its lens lineup. Fine. But it’s already much better than the E-mount lineup, so when do they plan to put some R&D back to crop? Do they plan at all?
a6000 is an excellent second body for A7 owners. It is also a very attractive option for people switching from APS-C DSLRs (because of the AF).
But if someone can handle the cost of FF or high-end MFT, he will choose between the best MFT gear (smaller size, usually more polished features) and A7 (seriously better IQ, but not much else).
I’d argue on the “seriously better IQ.” I have a bunch of M43 gear and can hardly tell the difference between the A7 and a few Zeiss. You have to put the files side by side in lightroom and then move them around to really get a feel for that “extra” data. It’s there- but it’s not like- blow me away amazing “I’m going to shiiiiit my pants” WOW. In fact, JPEGS and for some odd reason B&W seem better in Oly land. I don’t take high daylight shots of city scapes so the extra DR is even a moot point. Just saying. M43 and Sony FE certainly get cross shopped. At my local camera shop- I never see people fiddling with the A7’s…plenty with the Oly gear though.
*facepalm*
They repeated all myths about A7x that exist out there.
“It’s more compact” (no it’s not, the lenses are slower!), “you can continue to use your Canon lenses” (manual focus only, like 50 years ago!), “the AF system is better than DSLR” (quickly switches to A6000 like we wouldn’t notice) etc. etc. …
“Our focus in Australia is misleading advertizing”
Sounds like you spread some myths.
It is more compact (have no clue what lens speed has to do with camera size, lots of choices in difference sizes)
yes you can AF a Canon lens on e-mount with the right adapter..
On a few select canon lenses only & it’s very slow – nigh on unusable!
Mirrorless A-mount is already here. It is called the EA1/EA3 adapter.
How do you like the AF? 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV9ACB_NF0g
It sucks- period.
And despite that you want a mirrorless A-mount?
The only reason to stick to old mount is to use old lenses.
The only way to use A-mount lenses with a decent AF performance is to provide an adapter with mirror and PDAF.
At this point Sony on-sensor AF doesn’t cooperate very well with adapted A-mount optics.
I think the weird hybrid AF in Nikon 1 is the only on-sensor solution today which works well with lenses designed for SLRs (but it offers just one AF point- something even Nikon can’t explain :P).
How about “It just works” as a reason or..”it’s a well rounded system.” I mean, dang…how much stuff do you need. The performance is excellent, tons of lens options both new and old.
7 years bad luck if you’re superstitious!
Hope these Sony Aussi FanBoys had to much sun.
Otherwise my trust in Sony starts to lose ground again.
I’m in the Customer seat, I’m at the longer lever 🙂
I will wait until the right piece of gear is launched (eg A77 II FF equivalent or similar).
Nobody can force me into mirrorless delivering less then today State of the art DSLR with the this kind of price tag on it.
“Sony a850 Parts also been DISCONTINUED”
This is not 10 generations back in time it was replaced by the A99.
Is this Sony Pro service? LOL
There will never be mirrorless A Mount. (1) It’s pointless to keep two mirrorless systems and (2) and A Mount lenses won’t work with it.
Where do you live?
Midwest USA.
Sony planning to destroy the mirror,
So does it include the Translucent mirror?
No more SLT in the future?
You don’t follow this stuff too closely do you……..
Yes, like my local pro suppliers. That’s very hard data straight from the horses mouth, and seen with my own eyes by the stock on the shelves. Now instead of making accusations of what I don’t follow too closely, try answering my first request for hard data to support your claim that pro stills shooters who also shoot video are primarily Sony instead of CaNikon. Answer instead of accusing to avoid the question.
Avoiding, sure, I’m avoiding the usual “prove me wrong debate 101” nonsense you guys revel in. The best hard-data you’ll find is in the ranks, amongst the guys actually “working” this kit. What you kids eat-up is all this Bernays style marketing BS. As for your “pro suppliers” good luck next time you buy a used car.
Now go find a bunch of 21st century “working photographers” (not used car guys) and do some due diligence, you may actually figure this stuff out……………..hard data, my ass, there’s no such thing in a soft science, that’s what brought the mighty Kodak down, listening to the “hard data” digital’s a fad crowd.
Well..
Mirror sucks 1/3 stop of light, it would be better to benifit from that 1/3 stop.
Plus mirror increases noise in photos (it is minor but it would be better to remove that minor noise).
Also if you remove it you will no longer need to replace it when it gets dirty spots, you know you can’t clean it
Avoiding, sure, I’m avoiding the usual “prove me wrong debate 101” nonsense you guys revel in. The best hard-data you’ll find is in the ranks, amongst the guys actually “working” this kit. What you kids eat-up is all this Bernays style marketing BS. As for your “pro suppliers” good luck next time you buy a used car.
Now go find a bunch of 21st century “working photographers” (not used car guys) and use some due diligence, you may actually figure this stuff out……………..hard data, my a$$, there’s no such thing in a soft science, that’s what brought the mighty Kodak down, listening to the “hard data” digital’s a fad crowd.
I find that if I shove my DSLR up my asss it magically becomes a mirror less camera. I can’t see the mirror, so it must not be there right? It’s late and I’ve had one to many.
Yeah, I paid about $650 for mine a little over a year ago. Nobody’s going to make any money on selling their old A-mount gear now, that’s for sure.
I do agree with the local pro outlet sentiment. I get the same vibe at my local store. Oly and Panny are the hot shiiiit. Sony has a nice big shelf with no one around.