Sony Europe changed the delivery date for the A7rII. If you preorder the camera now they will ship it to you in mid-August. European readers can also download that A7rII manual available in many different languages: http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/4576983411.pdf (Thanks Martin for spotting this).
A7rII preorder list:
In USA: at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore US, FocusCamera, Uniquephoto.
In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT. Wex UK.
In Asia at Digitalrev, CameraPro.
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Just checked the Sony UK store – they still have it listed as “Available from end of July”.
Warehouse Express (WEX) are still listing the same – it will be interesting to see if we here in Blighty get any delays. Seems odd that we get it before the rest of the world, but I’m certainly not going to complain if that is indeed the case.
I talked to a person from WEX and they had no clue when the camera will be available. The date stated on their site is in my opinion a marketing tactic to gain sales faster. :/ I wish it was available in July – I am tired of waiting.
I also spoke to a person at Jessops and he told me that they don’t have a date but from his experience he would say we will see the new Sony in September. I wish he is so wrong.
At Sony DE they have changed to Mid August.
I pre-ordered at my pro retailer and he promised me that I’ll get the very first. 🙂
In the past my retailer was advanced with few numbers before official availability.
Maybe I am lucky this time, too.
However, if shipped within August I’d be fine, as my vacation in Spain will be in September only.
I’m in a same boat – really want to take it to India in mid September, along with Batis lenses… Both camera and lens dates seem to be pushing back now, but my retailer keeps assuring me that I will get them before September.
I am a bit annoyed about the Zeiss though, all the local retailers insist that Zeiss is keeping them in dark about the actual availability dates for the Batis lenses in Europe, even though there are reports of some units already being shipped in HK and US. Really wanted to get 85/1.8 sooner to use it on some shoots before the vacation.
As I own the 90G macro since some weeks, I will go for the 85 Batis later.
The 25 Batis looks “sexy” – as it will be much, much lighter than my TS-E24II via Metabones – but there is no shipment date available.
Only the 85 is indicated as “available end August”. 🙁
Hi DirkB, how do you rate the 90mm F2.8 G Macro. Is it very good or amazing? Is it worth the investment?
From my experience with it – optically it is superb. Usability is excellent – push-pull MF/AF switch is a nice touch. Fly-by-wire manual focus is much better than on 55/1.8, it feels more responsive and precise. Using lens in manual focus with focus magnification is a pleasure.
I was not too impressed with OOS, however. It did not seem to help too much, but felt like draining batteries a lot.
Another issue I experienced was that most of the shots beyond 5m distance were slightly out of focus, even though it was used on A7s with CDAF. But perhaps I was doing something wrong, because some of the shots were sharp and others have stated here and in other forums that they experienced no such issue.
Until now I used it mostly as a medium tele prime, didn’t have time yet to go for explicit macro shooting.
So far I would say – exceptional qualities. If needed it’s sharp towards the extremes already wide open; contrast and colors very nice, flare and CA almost absent, and it produces nice bokeh. Built quality and haptic is on a very high level. AF/MF ring works very well, and the limiter switch and focus hold is also well placed.
Only thing I encountered was my low light testing in my flat was a little weakness in low contrast areas, where the AF was hunting up and down and sometimes locking somewhere in Nirwana. (cam is an A7II)
Personally I feel it a little bit too expensive for a standard FF macro.
However I think that for what it delivers it justifies its steep price tag more than the 24240.
Too expensive?
Prove it. Shot outside or open window- no glass.
Lowest ISO and in natural light for fast shutter speed and no hand holding blur. Lets ignore such comments until objective test has proven whatever they say about equip flippantly said to be have.
We have seen how useful 90mm is for all sorts of shooting, where 135mm makes you have to move back too far, for landscape and portrait, for tableau and all manner of shots where for ANY lens above 55mm and aside from 85mm/100mm, it would be the only choice.
Prove with an ACTUAL image that its too expensive given it only has really one flaw. We can decide better from that than a made up non photographers idea of a joke on photography when really of their politics. I would consider getting it before the 135mm f/2 apo so Its a lens MOST worthy of our consideration, seeing as that lens is Otus level and a third the cost- I already have the 55mm 1.8. Or just leave now, the choice is yours.
Yep, too expensive. My Opinion based on comparison with similar macros.
Your wannabe-funny suggestion to shoot outside admittedly bothers me a little bit. By reading my whole post – didn’t you get the impression that I did something more with this lens than just playing indoor with it?
And secondly – justifying its price by its capabilities doesn’t make it cheap. And even if I paid the price I may rate it “a little bit too expensive”, don’t you agree?
I said prove it, a simple objective shot with no ulterior factors will demonstrate what you ‘say’ but we don’t even know you have that lens.
Yes, it doesn’t even make sense to say its expensive without demonstrable evidence. On paper and as it is described it is NOT expensive and we are wondering in fact how Sony did it. Prove it is not as described or we cannot believe you. You are now LITERALLY the once vegetarian now bothering presently vegetarians by positively discriminating meat. Here, the inexpensive lenses of a system now all but irrelevant, leaving just the more expensive ones.
penne al arrabiata? Not just a meat dish. Oh you must have it with meat, in Italy you would be a joke. Well in Italy there are a lot of vegetarians and mediterranean diet is one if not best general diet for health.
Ignorant.
Inexpensive a mount lens options are a false economy, leaving the expensive ones, oh like the one you call expensive now.
Zeiss 55mm 1.8 bad focus control, 90mm 2.8 can be judged now on that one factor (the aberration it has is not as bad as 55mm 1.8 even if it had any, we can negate that issue anyway on your mere suggestion of £800 as expensive for what you require it for) -its perhaps not as sharp but renders more organically, negating need for a second organically rendering one) for near supremacy in system lenses and within ours which tops them for given examples thus far.
My reply was written before you edited yours.
If you have another understanding of justifying a price of an object – fair enough. If you have a higher skill level of photography than I do – fair enough.
What I don’t like is when people are offending people in a nasty way just because they have another opinion. I do like controversal discussions, but please with a proper level of gentleness.
I said prove it. I would. Same as I would like to see proof of AF in use because I’m not convinced by it, but again I would love to see it used to great effect, and I will be using AF too sometimes. I will prove my manual focusing in time too, of course, my photography much relies on it- AND it would require the best manual focus action from lens makers. THATS also whats great about a lens such as this. If you use 35mm sensor camera you might know that. It can focus easily at that aperture and with it contrasty and sharp. I won’t be making exceptions for politics.
What we would love to see is a video taken on a fixed tripod or clamp with the manual focus action demonstrated in and out of focus on a medium distance subject to see how smooth and responsive it is, if in fact that gizmo it has can set focus in a smooth analog fashion as well as shift the heavy glass in AF. Thanks and no thanks. Perhaps the back of a supermarket, Morrisons?
You can show ANY shot with an e mount cam and we can consider you real, oh but you have a mount cams right?
Ah, e mount APSC. Funny because I reckon that lens is the PERFECT step up lens because its equiv 135mm which is GREAT on APSC and one if not the best focal length equiv rendered by using 35mm sensor lenses on APSC.
35mm sensor-APSC equiv
25-37.5
f/2-3
f/2.8-4.2
50-75
f/1.2-1.8
f/1.4-2.1
=90-135=
f/1.8-2.7
=f/2.8-4.2=
f/1.2 will never render well on APSC, and for 1.4 or even 1.8 you will require something like 55mm zeiss 1.8
2.8 that is free of aberration like with the 90mm 2.8 WILL render well and work as a macro that way for some purposes too.
135mm 4.2 equiv with no aberration even on APSC is like a stopped down to focusable 135mm f/2 apo, but that would be 202.5mm f/3 equiv on APSC!
First, get 35mm sensor cam or get lens like this first to bridge, because glass is more fun. 135mm equiv isn’t too long and it will render OOF better than the other lenses might and with better quality as its almost flawless in this case.
The sharpness you pay for in using on APSC you transfer to 35mm sensor cam instead of getting ANOTHER APSC only lens and good use of it. 25mm might be cool, but not as usable in general as such as this 90mm surely. I might get this lens over all the best ones because its a perfect work horse lens for portrait and related business.
Or…be political.
”DirkB Dale Clark 11 days ago
Interesting to hear from a professional how important certain characteristics are in an overall workflow.”
Not a lens, seemingly your behaviour is kind of cheap.
Why? – because capital letters equals shouting. And your offense still bothers me.
Please be a little bit more gentle.
And also honest – waiting for a reply and then send out your edit….
But here some stuff for your curiosity – I have been using A mount until March when I decided to go all E mount. And I went from NEX5 to NEX7 to A7 series.
Why are you taking older posts out of context?
The quoted sentence was meant with regards to the 2 stop DR advantage of Sony and Nikon above Canon, and has little to do with our conversation – if it can be called that.
I don’t get it why you are referring to APSC – I havn’t been using APSC for about 1,5 years and didn’t mention it in connection with the usage of the macro lens.
And thanks for “texting” me to death – but I am well enough aware about DOF and OOF rendering behaviour and differentiation of a lens used on both formats.
Do you speak German, seeing as you live in Dusseldorf?
That’s easy to prove.
Ah, you don’t. I suppose we have proven you aren’t a real identity.
And which also means almost all false identities based on foreign language can be proven false as easily. You will refuse to translate a relatively complex phrase, despite all your talk of language.
If you tried, you would fail or have to bring someone in to do it and no one gets anything so you would accumulate enemies even faster than you do. The 3D will never be any good, and only used for positive discrimination like you use false id now. What is more abhorrent is how you are focusing on personal matters and lives and saying that is legal, rather than stopping: justified by your politics.
Actually my German is much better than my English as it is my native tongue. 🙂
You are constantly trying to provoke me related to my honesty just because you apparently don’t like my responses.
Do you have a Sony mirrorless camera? Have you proven evidence that you are a real person?
Translate:
‘That new concept car looks too good to be true. I wonder if it is?’
Uh oh, German NOT first language XD
You can translate that properly too if of course you are really able to 🙂
I not only prove I am real but I also consider matters with my own mind most provingly, and with limited information otherwise, demonstrating my understanding of photography.
The real German speakers are waiting for you to wax lyrical about how ‘concepts’ in German language are different and cannot be translated, but here its a word simply describing a type of prototype vehicle hahahahaha
Let me help you out:
‘Konzeptauto’ = concept car
zu schön, um wahr zu sein = too good to be true?
Uh oh, try not to be rude with the ‘I wonder’ bit
Hihi, you are funny, man.
Well then.
“Dieser Fahrzeugprototyp sieht zu gut aus, um real zu sein. Ob er es ist?”
Good.
Now a more tricky one:
‘Iced tea is most refreshing in the summer, but what most people don’t realize is that cold soup can be refreshing in the summer also.’
Eistee ist sehr erfrischend im Sommer , aber was die meisten Leute nicht wissen, ist , dass kalte Suppe kann erfrischend im Sommer auch .
this is what google says, but you best alter it a bit XD
could be tricky :I
German seems quite similar.
Ich denke mal, dass mein Englisch ganz in Ordnung ist, mach lieber einen Spanischkurs mit mir – ich bin im September auf der Deutschen liebsten Insel.
Ok, here you are:
“Eistee ist im Sommer sehr erfrischend, aber die meisten Leute verstehen nicht, dass kalte Suppe im Sommer ebenso erfrischend sein kann.”
Bin jetzt erstmal vor dem TV – ich löse mich also nicht in Luft auf. 🙂
The problem is, German is obviously very easy to translate to from English 🙂
Germany looks very interesting to visit for photography, regards all the medieval buildings especially. With less of a language barrier than other european countries It might be easier to navigate around than I would have thought.
Fashion place? Are you sure you aren’t identikit..
Have you visited Neuschwanstein?
oh, of course you haven’t XD
Why would a photographer in Germany have visited such a perfect place to photograph? I mean, one who was real and not designating id mostly on that fact…XD
I think it might be the most photo interesting subject in Europe, who knows? a lot to investigate 🙂
If you are used to it, it is quite easy to get at least the sense.
I am working since 25 years in a multinational environment, which enables me to be quite ok in using the Englisch language.
Are you from Dusseldorf? I’ll invite you to a beer – but please not today, better tomorrow.
Now, WWE Battleground on my TV. L8er.
Me? no, and I haven’t visited Germany much, though i’ve been to so many places in europe otherwise :I
I just want these identi people well out of my life, and as a real person, and photographer, i’m sure you understand 🙂
Afterall, they depreciate real peoples relations and photography with their politically selfish modes, and me today again even.
You pondered if I might know about photography, and yes I do!
😀
I’m a photography master 🙂
Only started 3 years ago and did first portrait shot yesterday XD
Yeah, if you think about it, if i had got a wiiU instead of steam my whole life would be better: oh, actually its just the politicos, and even today intentfully.
I used the 90G macro on A7s (trial units, kindly provided by Sony) during a wedding. I liked it and will certainly buy the macro at some point, but Batis 85 is much more interesting and has wider application for what I do, so I was hoping to get that first, but availability and communication about Zeiss products is starting to get frustrating 🙂
unfortunally, the online help guide, mentioned on page 2 in the Manual, is still not
“available:Help Guide is an on-line manual. You can read the “Help Guide” on your computer or smartphone. Refer to it for in-depth instructions on the many functions of the camera.
URL:http://rd1.sony.net/help/ilc/1520/h_zz/
Regards from Germany
Ralf
I guess this relates to the next batch of delivery. Cameras (like mine) preordered earlier are still on a shipping date July 29.
Same for me – says still 28/07-29/07.
I got message from sony. The camera is on the way to europe. Shipping date for the first batch is still 29.07. (+2 days max). Yeah!
I really want to see full reviews and tests before committing. Where are they? It’s like there were a few hands-on and then everyone went to sleep and just assumed this camera would be awesome in every way without trying it…
Is there any doubt that the new sensor rate above the current leader?
There’s no doubt that the new sensor will exceed the highest-scoring sensors on DxO – it’s just a matter of by how much.
already $3000 USD in HK now.