Sony-BTS A7R from Cutting Edge on Vimeo.
So, who develops RAW files better for the new Sony A7, A7r? (It’s not Adobe) -> LeicaBoss.
A7r review at SonyAlphaLab.
Full review of the A7 has been posted at Admiring Light.
Full review of the Zeiss 35mm FE lens at Admiring Light.
A7r unboxing series on Flickr.
Nice A7r with Leica Lens images at Mapcamera.
Chandler: “Here’s a short video shot on the a7r: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P-cUXvGxi8 A full behind the scenes of that film, and sample photos taken with the a7r, are here: http://www.longshotfilmstudios.com/1/post/2013/12/sony-a7r-short-film-sample-photos.html”
Hatem: “I’ve been a regular visitor and reader of your site, and have just published an article which could be of interest to your readers about the great experience using the Sony A7R together with the Sony Zeiss 135mm f/1.8 Lens and Sony LA-EA4 Adapter. You may be interested in sharing it. Link: http://shapedbylight.com/2013/12/25/shooting-the-sony-a7r-with-the-sony-zeiss-135mm-f1-8-lens-and-sony-la-ea4-adapter/”
Florian: “I’ve browsed the Web and found this little but very nice review of the A7. The lady who was giving it a try is a great photographer and uses mainly middle format and film. The results from her shoot with the A7 are beautiful and she seems to be quite impressed with our tiny little camera. Don’t know if it’s worth a news, but I think it’s great to see middle format photographer having a great time using the A7. The link is here: http://blog.micmojo.com/2013/sony-a7/”
Thododoris: “I took an A7r sample with me on a mountain trip – images here: http://thodorismarkou.com/blog/2013/12/winter-solstice-sony-a7r/
…all the images were shot at aperture-priority mode and AWB, and I really liked the fact that I didn’t have to do any post-processing – the camera got the metering and the white-balance perfect every time. The focusing was a breeze, too – it never slowed me down.
I’ve also included two RAW files, which will be available for a week.”
Anonymous: “Hi Andrea! This has got to be the first wedding shot with the new Sony A7r and A7 using Leica manual lenses!!! They ate the first unit owners here in the Philippines! You might want to feature them. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.605369739499836.1073741832.468714236498721&type=1”
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Specs and Preorders in US and Canada:
Dedicated Sony announcement page at Amazon US (Click here).
Sony A7r body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony A7 body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony A7 with 28-70mm kit lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony RX10 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 24-70mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 35mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 55mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
70-200mm A-mount at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Sony A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony A to E adapter with mirror at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
A7/A7r leather case at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
A7/A7r vertical grip at Amazon, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Sony W Series Battery Charger at Amazon, BHphoto.
Sony FA-CS1M Off-Camera Shoe at BHphoto.
Semi-Hard LCD Screen Protector for A7-A7r at Amazon, BHphoto.
Specs and Preorders in Europe:
Sony A7r body at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE.
Sony A7 body at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE, Amazon UK, Amazon DE, Amazon FR.
Sony A7 with 28-70mm kit Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE, Amazon UK, Amazon DE, Amazon FR.
Sony RX10 at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE.
Zeiss 35mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT,
Zeiss 55mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT
Zeiss 24-70mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, SE, PT
Sony G 28-70mm lens at Sony DE, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO.
Asia:
A7r at Digitalrev.
A7 at Digitalrev, Amazon Cina.
A7 with 28-70mm lens at Digitalrev.
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funny watching a behind the scenes video for a Sony commercial shot with a RED camera…
Exactly, especially after those patent infringement case not long ago…
According to the wedding photography shoot (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.605369739499836.1073741832.468714236498721&type=1) it seems that the Voigtlander 28 f2 Ultron does OK. Yet I’ve seen other tests where it did not fare so well. Anyone else with experience with this lens?
Another A7 & A7r update. Wow, Yupieee!
Honestly, these two cameras are getting long in the tooth. Please Admin, some news about the new A mounts & Nex 7 replacements… Pretty Please?
Yes, agreed
These are great cameras….let’s move on. Supposedly new A mounts are right around the corner.
Everyone knows that the admin secretly works for Sony R&D and is holding back A-mount and NEX-7 information so he can hear your cries on his site comments.
Thanks for posting these, I really like the micmojo.com link.
Awesome video advert
Interesting but SAD from LeicaBoss!
I’ve been reading that capture one pro is doing a good job with the RAW’s.
But the LeicaBoss test was done November 10th.
Missed that. Too old. We have to test ourselves. I do believe in Adobe and besides Sonys software for download has a divided user interface. Lightroom 5, ACR is much better. Hope the quality is too?
Well, I just a few minutes ago did, tested myself that is. I had a similar problem than one of the guys who replied to LeicaBoss directly, which is that my workflow get messed up as I rely on LR very much. Anyway, lucky me, to make a long story short: I tried out with several images from an outing into the woods one week ago, and at least now with the official LR 5.3 I cannot really reproduce the LeicaBoss results with my images, taken with the FE 35. There is one which looks a bit sharper with Sony IDC (a fragile looking tree with lots of fine branches) but this one at the same time looks curiously ‘artificial’ – the LR result looks more like a real photograph of a real thing.
In another case – so much for the a7R out-resolving the FE 35 -, where a branch was just one pixel wide, and for which I didn’t like the LR result to begin with, with its obvious problems of de-bayer-ing it, IDC basically had the same problem, so no advantage here, either. The remaining three photographs look much better with LR.
So, for me, and I think that everybody has to try this out themselves, with the typical photographs and subjects they do, even if sometimes there might be a very tiny advantage for IDC, at other times the advantage is on the side of LR, and the pain to use the very slow (on a Geekbench 12000 Macbook) IDC isn’t worth it. And I’m saying this despite the fact, that of all the manufacturers’ RAW converters I up to now like IDC best, if I don’t take into account Capture One which I wouldn’t put into that same category.
The SONY software is awful to use. Right now, I only use it for high ISO shots that are important and require fine detail.
With 36mp, I don’t care about a little loss of fine detail with LR5.3…
So the “test” is interesting but has very little practical value.
My thinking. In addition, LR lets you control the outcome much better, with the Sony converter having some parameters where it just lets you choose between ‘standard’ and ‘extended’… whatever that means. Still, for example the Olympus and Nikon converters are even crappier – please excuse my using this word but you have to call a spade a spade 😉 I don’t understand why these people can’t work together with Adobe and other software companies and then put those converters into the package – like Leica does with LR, while we’re at it 😉 (Don’t have enough experience with Capture One Pro to judge this, so I take for granted that many people like the Phase One software for a reason.)
Fine test Heiko. Did a little testing today and couldn’t verify The Boss result either?
I agree fully with you. Why dont’t everybody cooprate with Adobe like Leica? I’m not surprised though. It’s the same with computers and other stuff? All manufactuers think they are unique and supply their own software.
PS Forgot to write this: the artificial-looking sample by the way looked not a bit sharper than the LR result when printed to a width of 60cm/24″, that is with quite a bit less than 300ppi, At the same time, the artificial look showed even in the print if I looked hard enough, so… no, thanks, LR for me, please 😉
I assume that, in face of the fact that de-bayer-ing is a kind of mathematically-educated guess work, the result simply depends on what’s been photographed and how. I’m not saying that LR is the best, but at the same time, as far as I know the Sonys use a normal Bayer CFA, as opposed to Fuji X-Trans for example, so the experience of Adobe with de-mosaicing this should come to the fore with the Sony a7 and a7R also.
Wow Florian those were good – thanks for the link to her page!
The A7r review at SonyAlphaLab should be the A7 review.
Some great reviews and sample images!
@Florian re: “I’ve browsed the Web and found this little but very nice review of the A7. The lady who was giving it a try is a great photographer…”
Jan Scholz is indeed a great photographer (you can also see his work on Flickr, and part of the great ‘Framed Network’ series on Youtube) though he is a guy, not a lady 🙂
I really don’t want to troll, but did anyone of the A7r users have ever had such effects:
http://www.canis-dirus.de/public/wordpress/archives/1397
I would really be interested, if I possibly got a mondays one or if it might be caused by combination of Lens/Sensor/adapter.
Would be sad, if it is a general issue, because for me it would be a criteria to give it away and to use my nex-7 until there will be a successor.
Did an additional test: no light leak at the adapter. There is also discussiong going on at Fred Mirandas Forum: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1247655/148#lastmessage
That’s something you’ll see with almost every digital camera. Lenses from the pre-digital era (such as the ones you’re using) weren’t designed to deal with the reflections from the sensor. Just Google for sensor reflection and you’ll get tons of results from people adapting legacy lenses (not only for mirrorless but also for SLRs). It also happens with your NEX.
The issue just wasn’t as apparent on your NEX 7 because the sensor was smaller, thus reflecting less light back into the lens. The only way out would be some kind of rather sophisticated one-way mirror construction but that’s pretty much impossible to build as a DIY.
I’d just go into a local shop with a flashlight / flash and test the native FE lenses on your body. Most probably you won’t see any serious issues.
All the lenses I have tested had no issues on the Nex-7, even without hood, but maybe because of the APS-C size (seems to appear in the areas outside APS-C) . And i have also seen it using the Sigma 50-500 from 100mm onwards. But I think, it might be better with lenses designed for the A7s.
Sorry, was to fast, you just pointed to the size, yes, I agree and think, it will not be an issue with native lenses.
Btw. I also got the Elmarit R 60 2.8 and it produces flares on my NEX just like that.
How many mother #%$@^%& tests are you going to post for the A7 A7r??????
Good grief. Let the thing die already.
Good to know that with the wind velocity at free fall from an altitude of 50,000 feet, you can still hear the shutter of the A7R.
LOL
Awesome!
Another joke review….Andrea please spare these guys the fair critique they will get for hte astonishingly incompetent review.
Thi sis ridiculous nowadays poeple that even do not know how ot hold a camera do reviews…please this is pathetic.
Totally off topic. Can someone recommend a good IPS monitor at a good price. 24in or less is fine. I was considering a nec but maybe overkill?
Look into HP Z series screens (ZR2440w if you want 24 inch, or a Dell U series (U2311H for 23 inch. Both are going to be very good value for money. I have the HP one myself and I’m very happy with it. Very sturdy build, good control over the angle and height, built in USB hub and different means of plugging in displays. Dell is the same.