Dear SAR readers!
Photokina is now over but I am already receiving the next generation of rumors. Meantime I will take the chance to ask you to send me your suggestion of camera Sony should release as next. I will make you an example of cameras Sony could/should make:
NEX-9 FF camera for $3000
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
RX10 APS-C fixed lenscamera for $999
Please write the most important key aspects only like “NEX or SLT”, “APS-C or FF”, megapixel number and price. After that I will sum your suggestions in one big poll where SAR readers can select the prefered options. Let’s see what SAR readers want from Sony!
425 Responses
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000
NEX-9 FF with new 54 mp sensor.
i wanna 6Mp NEX9FF mirrorless with FATTTTTT photocells for lowlight!!! iso25,600 native!! boostable x4
We all have our preferences. Personally I can’t go back to NEX-3 14 Mpix after using NEX-7’s 24 Mpix. Cropability and details are amazing. Low light performance is also important for me, but there is not enough of a significant difference between for example NEX-7 and 5N IMO.
I want 24 MPIX
NEX9 clearly
A1 SLT 36 MPX
Nex 5 FF for $1000
RX1 with interchangeable lenses for $2000 body only
Slt ff 18 mpix 1800€!!!
Nex ff 18 mpix 1800€!!!
Sony SLT A-95 FF for 1800$
SLT FF
NEX-9 FF camera for $2000 to $2200 with 36 MP sensor, to give 16 MP images akin to that of the NEX-5N in crop mode.
And NO mode dial please.
NEX 60mpx FF
price up to $3000
Basically a NEX with either a sensor like that in the D800E, or a multilayer sensor of around 24 Megapixels.
But I can’t afford as much as $3000, so I might have to wait until production costs on sensors go down.
I will buy the Sony A1 SLT (but it must have 10fps and the same (or better) AF as the A99).
Willing to pay max 3.500 Euro.
I need FF camera with good high ISO, so I prefer NEX (without catching light by translucent mirror) FF camera, with magnesium alloy body against protect to weather and Alpha mount, 24 megapixel sensor optimized for good high ISO.
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000
Sony DSLR-A950, full frame, SLR with OVF, live view, 24-36 mpix, no built-in grip.
Better AF would be a plus. Firmware with remote control capabilities and/or capabilities to tweak the jpeg outputs and/or tiff 16bits or dng output would also be a plus. Capabilities to write my own apps would be a plus.
+1
I assume your description of the A1 would be full frame? I’d buy that!
Sony DSLR-A950, full frame, SLR with OVF, live view, 24-36 mpix, with built-in grip, better AF throughout the whole image, good high iso, wifi
interchangeable lenses mirrorless full frame… price: below 2k
Full frame NEX. And there’s no need for SONY to develop any more new lenses.
Fullframe NEX would allow me to play with four distinct lens ranges; existing APS-C e-mount, A-Mount, 3rd party, and the best small lenses available – leica m and zm.
They can charge all the way up to the price of a Leica M eg $7000 and will still get buyers, simply because there are no alternatives.
I agree – they do not need to make any new lenses, there are plenty already.
Maybe just a single prime lens as a kit lens. About 45mm f/2 or f/2.8.
More lenses would not be unwelcome. But people keep trying to raise the bar.
It will mean we don’t get anything if SONY determine that consumers would *expect* a new lens line.
The facts are a full-frame NEX by itself would tremendously expand our options.
Is the 18MP FF sensor of A95 coming out of your imagination or did you hear something about it? That would be awesome stuff.
All of them…for free. 😛
+ 152
Mirroless a-mount
NEX9 FF for 2000$ 24mp
+1
.24MP FF NEX9
.Compact high quality kit lens
.<2000USD Kit
.touch screen
.with all existing bells & whistles found in NEX 6
.GPS?
I would prefer:
Sony A1 SLT FF with 36 MPX sensor for $2500 with good quality on high ISO.
Sony A95 SLT with 24 MP FF sensor for $1800 which is the same sensor as A99 without video recording, only a camera.
I for my person join Jerome
Sony A88, FF, No video mode. 24mpx, NO SLT!!!!! for 2000$
if not an SLT then I guess it’d be A880, not 88 😉
A NEX-VG900 with GH3-like resolution, higher bitrate, better codec, flat picture profile settings and ND-filters for 4000 USD 🙂
a77 FIRMWAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Me too!
same here 🙂
Can’t wait to disable that **** movie button.
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000
NEX-9
I want NEX without LPF!
SLT a88 FF with 20mp, basic video
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
Two cameras that I want.
RX1 style with A-mount and screwdrive and built in viewfinde (hybrid if possible)
Fullframe A900 with bulit in flash, optical viewfinder and the on/off button like on the A700/A900/Canon 7D so the shutterbutton and controlwheel are close.(dont like the Nikonised on/off button they have know)
Othevise my A700 will have to work untill it dies, and then I get a used A700 again or A900.
NEX-9, FF EVIL, weight not over 500g, price no more than $2000
A990 with A99 sepcs but with a classical reflex view (OVF) and all options of EVF on the screen 🙂 With AF Range and AF assist sensor points which are using with all lenses, with build-in flash and wifi remote crontrole module.
At the same price of the A99 and it’s for me the ultimate FF DSLR 😉
Plllleeeeaaaasssssseeeeeeee Sonyyyyyyyyyyy !!
NEX-VG4K $3000
Sony A1 with 36MP for 3k… almost similar with a99… cool ^_^b
is this similar with canon 1dx and nikon d4 with builtin grip at prolevel?
NEX-9 FF 36MPX sensor for $3000
hope sony will make :
1. A95 FF cheap price under $1999
2. Nex FF under $2500
3. RX2 with intenal Viewfinder, Tilt LCD, shutter leaf and max speed 1/8000, with wide and tele conventer lens accessories. hope the price RX2 is under $2800
4. RX10 APSC version with fix lens 35mm/1.4 in price $1000
5. and more more lens of A-mount and Nex lens
NEX 9 and the new FF Zeiss emount lenses?
that’s going to cost you an arm and a leg!
NEX-9 FF camera for $1500
100% !!!
For 500$.
A88/85 SLT 18mp FF under $1400
A1X SLT 36mp squared sensor for $3000
Maybe also RX1x 24mp xpan-like for $2500
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000, only if it has a DXOMark at 94+
Not a FF NEX …. if I need a FF cam , I will go for A99 instead……for a FF NEX and Cost $3000…. Oh come-on…give me a break…..
NEX FF
NEX-9 FF.
1. Cheapest FF in the market.. again. USD1799 sounds reasonable. No costly prism, remember?
2. Full frame NEX. Maybe this one will be more expensive. Around USD2599. I won’t buy it myself, but many will.
I hope there is another FF soon to concurrence Nikon D600.
A1000 with duo OVF + EVF finder (like Fuji) and the following features
Still photography mode: like A900 with bright OVF and fast focus
Movie mode: Option to flip mirror up and use on-senor phase + contrast detection AF. Viewfinder change to EVF No translucent mirror
Sensor: 3 layer sensor similar to Foveon (Sony have patent of this kind).
Best of 3 worlds.
Price? If $ony would give us all of the above, it would be $4,000+ for sure…..
Perhaps some A77 mk II with the new on sensor pdaf and some other improvements like tethering and WiFi.
I’m wanting to upgrade to something that range and whilst the A77 could be nice an updated version would, if anything, get down prices further.
NEX 9 FF camera with 20-24 max megapixel, built-in EVF is a supermust…
A fullframe A-mount camera with optical (or hybrid) viewfinder, preferably with 24MP. A99 is a nice camera, but the viefinder is far behind of an optical fullframe viewfinder. On APS-C cameras the EVF has the additional advantage of a bigger size, but that is not existend (or required) on fullframe. A99 is great for video, but for users that are focussed on photography, still an OVF camera is needed. I know that the chance is not very high that Sony will built such camera.
NEX-9 should be cheaper then Nikon D600!!!
1799$
NEX 9 FF camera with built in EVF, 24 megapix is sufficient..(unless Sony has the ability to provide 36 or more megapix with excellent high iso capability).
Nex-7 FF for 1600.
nex9 FF for 1500 (nude).
Nex-9 at 2 grant
a77 FIRMWARE
NEX-9 FF camera for $3000
Preferably with the same 24mp sensor available on the a99. It’s a good sensor and it would appeal to Sony to benefit from economies of scale.
The perfect camera for me would be everything they left out from the A99….
Sony A1 FF SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000
A909 – DSLR with 36 MPx sensor and large pentaprism dedicated for studio-shooting.
2 model of NEX FF
NEX-9V (Body only US$ 2500 , Body with Zeiss Efx 24-70mm f2.8 – 4 US$ 3200)
with EVF, weather seal body, high frame rate for Professional use
NEX-9E (Body only US$ 1850, Body with sony Efx 28-70mm f3.5-4.5 US$ 2150 )
no EVF, no weater seal, lower frame rate, for serious amateur use
key specification
– 24megapixel FF exmor sensor
– e-mount lens compatible with dx crop mode, Efx lens with FX mode
– weather seal, dust proof, splash proof (NEX-9V)
– magnesium alloy body standard hotshoe
– phase detection / contrast detection
– 2.3 million dot resolution OLED EVF (NEX-9V)
– multipoint touch screen (NEX-9E)
– ISO 100-12800 (50, 25600 – 51200 with boost)
– Tri-navi Control dial for NEX-9V Dual navi for NEX-9E
– continuous shooting 10fps (NEX-9V) (larger buffer)
– continuous shooting 5fps (NEX-9E)
– 1080p 60p HD movies in AVCHD
—————————————————
Professional quality NEX with
* full frame sensor
* 24 Mega-Pixel
* fast, accurate AF
* weather sealed
* ruggedized body
* extremely good low light IQ
* high dynamic range
* tethering
* video button enable/disable configuration
* price between €2500 and €3500
Also a “good collection” of “high quality” lenses !
A0 medium format, 100 MP, ~100 bucks would be enough for me
I think they should not release any more variations of existing models right now, as it’s hugely confusing to the consumer!
Instead, they should be updating the firmware of previous models (e.g. A77) to keep those people happy who have already shelled out a lot of money to buy into the Sony system.
I don’t require or demand much to be happy.
A pocketable Nex 1000 FF+ 48mpx would be just fine.
With 10mm-1000mm ultra-wide to super-tele collapsible/pancake Zeiss lens, constant F1.4, high quality, but cheap.
wait for 22nd century… who know.. 😀
Sony NEX-6+ with the same technical data than the Nex-6 plus:
– touch screen
– Android OS
– GSM and GPS
I want Sony to pay some attention to the NEX-7 users. release a firmware update for heaven sake with better AF fixes, create user profiles, and over all system responsiveness. The way in which even the 50mmf18 hunts with a camera like NEX-7 is unacceptable. Dont play with NEX-7 as you did with A900.
/Aj
+10 for a Nex-7 firmware update with the correction of the upcoming lenses
and what could be really great would be to give the opportunity to download app via USB (play memories app)
Please don’t forget this fast Nex-7 owners ! the “high end camera” is not that old !!!!!
+ 100
A Fix version of the A77 with the stupid new hot shoe and fix version of the a65 with the new hot shoe version. and I hope they keep the orange Alpha logo. :)…so The a66 and the a78….:D which I know the will be around the corner …. hold on, Sony Takes for ever to update their line….So maybe around 2020!!! 🙂
A camera the size of the RX100, but with interchangable lenses and a screen that besides being able to tilt up and down can be tilted left and right as well.
Sony made the RX-1 to try to sate you FF NEX nutjobs. The camera you describe is not possible. That’s why Sony didn’t make it. They’d be very happy to take your money.
I don’t care about FF personally. And up until recently people said a camera like the RX100 (or RX1 for that matter) would not be possible, so I am keeping all options open.
Nikon 1 with the additional size of G12? That’s defeating the purpose of a small camera. They already have the Nex series for that.
I want a 28mm-wide F2.0 RX1 costing around $2000 and including on-sensor PDAF. And not one millimeter bigger than the current one.
However, the current RX1 is very tempting as is ! (for whoever needs that kind of image quality) 🙂
I think USD2k for a full frame camera + a lens is just too much to ask. The price point seems fine for an APSC camera.
Nex five and a half. So price between NEX5 and 6.
Just a camera. No picture effects or other fancy mumbo-jumbo.
with 16 MP.
Dedicated dail for 5 Modes: Auto, P,A,S,M (Auto as a maybe – Who needs it?)
+ 2 Dials for A- and S-Value
Video with 50p. And no additional crop-factor.
Option for time-lapse and HDR in RAW.
EVF like NEX-6
New Hotshoe
+ Pancakes sizewize as pentax makes them.
NEX 9 FF,
but only if there will be smaller FF E-mount lenses, not if we need to use A-mount lenses via an adapter.
Small (I think you really want very small) full frame lenses would have to be primes with maximum apertures of f/2.8 or f/3.5.
A good Tessar type design could be very useful. This is what was used in the Rollei and Minox pocket FF film cameras.
Olaf, how is that different from Nex6 🙂 ? Just Nex6 but cheaper?
Almost. The 2 control dials should be both on the top (like NEX 7) And on my A77 I do not use the picture effects and I am sure that a lot of people try them and never use them again. I want a simple menu.
and I want HDR in RAW (so not into one picture but 3 or more different exposed raw-files).
So basically a really cheap NEX-7 with a mode dial.
And your “HDR in RAW” is called bracketing. Already have it, just need to be a lot better.
1. A 77 firmware update
2. A 95 SLT 18 mp FF for €/$ 1800/2000 (sports/action body with real time OLED finder for panning)
3. FF 70-200 or 70-300 F2.8 SSM moisture/dust proof with Focus limiter buttons, 3m/5m focus range limiter. – BLACK finish! (Absolutely dislike the white and silver tele(zoom) lens finish). MUST be sharp from F2.8. Must macro focus up to about 2-3 feet 70-90 cm.
4. Better lens optimised sun shade designs. (Better front lens/filter protection against sun AND water drops!) Sturdy high grade plastic base, slide open finger openings to adjust polarizers, front extremity made of collapsible rubber extension.
u dun need the focus limiter on lens if u have A99..
nex7+ with 18-24mp ff with evf and 5-7fps that weights less than 500g for $2000.
24-85 oss kit set at $2500
Not a NEX, not an SLT, but I have wet dreams of the “RX200”.
It would be the ultimate camera for casual family & travel pictures (that is my main use cases and probably is also for a majority of people).
Keep the good features from the RX100:
– 1 inch CMOS sensor
– Large aperture wide-angle for low-light indoor shots
– Optical steady-shot
– Digital level gauge
Add more bleeding edge features:
– In sensor phase detection. Like Nikon 1 and NEX-5R.
– BSI for even better low light performance indoors. This is the obvious next step as Samsung EX2F is already BSI.
– Tilting screen. Like NEX 5R.
– Capacitive multitouch screen. Like Samsung Galaxy Camera.
– Android. Firmware upgrades are rare because software is hard and expensive. So apps help to keep the hardware relevant in an fast moving world and a better investment in the long run. The main app I would install is Adobe Revel importer. No more manual transfer between devices! No more duplicates!
– WiFi 802.11 ac. For big payload like pictures we need the fastest connection available and it would probably be better also for battery life.
– GPS & digital compass. Like HX10V.
– In camera RAW post-processing. Why do we still have to choose the creative filter BEFORE taking a photo? I want Instagram workflow with RAW quality.
I understand that all those features would make it a bigger camera (tilting screen, bigger screen, bigger battery) than the current RX100, but that would still be in my desirable size range.
It would also be more expensive, but I would pay 800-1000 euros for it.
Let’s hope someone will show this message to the Cybershot product managers.
yeah, or RX-110
not heavier
in sensor phase detection
start at 24mm not 28mm
good iq till 3200iso
NEX-8 FF w/ only 16MP and NEX-5 form factor
NEX-6 FF-no video, no AA filter, no flash,no AF …or FUJI X-E1 FF.
I’d love to see an interchangeable lens version of the Rx1, but I’d be scared to see it released as a part of the NEX series. The RX1 is perfect with mechanical function selector, dedicated aperture, exposure, and focus. If it were part of the NEX series, I’m afraid it would be paired with touchscreens, dual or tri-navi, flipout LCDs, etc, and loose some of specilized dedicated mechanical controls and not worthy as a spiritual brethren of the RX1.
I want a APS-C NEX Camera with much better Low-Light capability than NEX-7. For my photography ISO3200 needs to be as usable as it is ISO800 in NEX-7.
I also want quality LENSES – Quality primes with fast aperture! Also a Macro lens with quality (not the 30mm 3.5 Macro). Several more zooms and faster zooms sooner rather than latter.
And NOW I want a firmware for NEX-7 that gives it better processing of High ISOs and solves the problems still reported by users (menus, video record button, passing between photos while zoomed, etc).
Best 😉
updated NEX-7 (NEX-7N or NEX-7R) with updated firmware and wifi / touchscreen.
NEX-9 FF
RX1 with interchangable lenses
36 MPX FF SLT, but please with extensive allocated AF-Points – don’t take that APS-C AF-Modul again!
+1
Nex 9 APS-C.
No Full Frame , thank you.
If Sony wants to go 24X36 should make another product’s line.
It seems that money is not a problem for anyone here…
Me I would take an RX10 with APC-C sensor and fixed lens (33mm f/1.8) for some $750, thanks (the Canon EOS-M with 22mm f/2 pancake costs $800, but it has interchangeable lenses, so RX10 should be cheaper).
You are dreaming at that price.
I want an rx2 which would be like the RX1 but with built in evf, weather sealing, pdaf, bigger hand grip and battery like the nex 6/7. I don’t mind if the body is a bit bigger.
Get rid of stupid art filters, useless panorama mode, iauto crap and other such bells and whistles.
FF SLT with 18MP, latest af system and Super low noise sensor and 12FPS would be nice I.E. a 1DX killer!
Why not alpha camera with a small crop factor of 1.2 if this can significantly reduce the price and bring it at 1500.
FF SLT with 18MP, latest af system and Super low noise sensor and 12FPS would be nice I.E. a 1DX killer!
That`s exactly what Sony should do! And the price could be around 1500€
😉
NEX 9, 36Mp, EVF, PDAF, HDR RAW, DNG.
Lens Zeiss: 21/2.8, 24/2, 28/2, 35/1.4, 50/1.4, 75/1.4, 90/1.4, 105/1.8, 135/2, 4oo/4.5.
Zoom: 17-35/3.5, 35-70/2.8, 70-140/2(2.4, 2.8).
I think you just want a DSLR. Just don’t know it yet. lol
НЕТ! NEX 9! Без AA фильтра.)
И зумы нормальной кратности…
Hey!! Forget about the next load of cameras Sony, how about giving us some good firmware updates to our existing A65/A77 cams to prove you can do it.
We NEED better ISO (Boy do we need that)and a better Jpeg engine to start with. (please don’t anyone tell me to shoot RAW and buy Lightroom etc. etc. That does not solve Sony’s problems, or mine, as I lose too many camera facilities by shooting Raw for a start).
I, like so many people, have spent my money and will not buy another camera for a long while. And when I do, If Sony can’t give us good firmware, It certainly won’t be Sony anymore.
PLEASE, Sony, Give us good ISO and Jpeg on our A65/A77’s.
Sorry, you can not get better ISO with A77/A65 only better noise filtering. Better noise removal requires more processing power. I doubt they can or are willing optimize it. Perhaps they could implement in-camera conversion of RAW to JPG for extra quality option as batch processing which then could take longer but with much higher quality. But it is SONY. Forget it.
There may be. We dont know whether the Bionz chipset has an FPGA component, if it does then there are possibly changes that can be made to improve high ISO performance. Additionally, in the applications software careful power management may be able to reduce dark frame noise.
They fixed the A700 with the v4 update.
A a850 next gen!! Cheap ff…
Alpha xx full-frame Model with 24MP or similiar with:
10FPS in A,S,M
with decent AF-Sensor (at least match Nikons 15/51 in terms of the size of the af field)
Buffer for more than 30 RAWs
price:around 3000$ should be realistic
Don’t want a new camera. I’d love a 16-50 2.8 E Mount, however. Then i’d feel like i have a complete system, all with E Mount, no adapters.
+1
Enough bodies already.
I’d also like a sel 16-80 G f/3.5-4.5 for travel.
+2
RX10 APS-C fixed lenscamera with a fast zoom lens f/1.8-2.5 🙂 dream
i want 120 FPS in Video. thats all
1) A88 or A95 -> A FF @18MP for 1800$ (1600 Euros) + Economic but good lens to start from (as a G or Zeiss SSM, 18-50 F2.8 for about 600 Euros)
2) Nex-8 or Nex-9, FF Mirrorless at same price as A88/95 (so one can choose at same price for a DSLT A-Mount stabilyzed or a Compact E-Mount with AF on sensor).
Enough cameras ! Now update the lenses !
Ivory handle, Tahitian pearl dials, Rhino horn pop up flash, Custom colors, Habbelsad lenses.
Size of the sensor does not matter. Also, do not care if it is a NEX or SLT or a Video cam- as long as it is pretty.
I really like the A99, as it features many things I already wanted.
However, here are a few suggestions that would make it much more lustfull:
1. Internal video recording of ProRes 4:2:2 LT 10bit or an equivalent DnxHD. Since that is probably too much to ask, then at least a 50-60mbit 4:2:2 codec with 10bit color, like featured in the Sony PMW-200 video camera.
2. Adding touch capability to the LCD would be nice.
3. The high-ISO performance is slightly lacking. I really wished for a Nikon D4 killer. I was expecting the A99 to be the new high-ISO king.
4. USB3.0 instead of USB2.0 would be much welcome.
5. Recording on mSATA SSDs or the new CFast cards.
As for 2nd: No, quite contrary.
As for 3rd: First they should learn how to use USB 2.0 up to it’s full potential. There’s no point in USB 3 when they don’t even use all USB 2 bandwidth.
As for 5th: How about RAID on current SD cards? Better performance, lower costs for everyone.
No-frills photo orientated full frame body (a77 screen, evf and dmf) please! Doesn’t need to be more than about 20mp but needs to be priced to sell (as opposed to stuffed with features I don’t need to justify the price point).
SkyWalker,
RAID on SD cards? I hope you mean RAID1.
Data integrity is much more important than speed in this case.
Even if one SDcard fails/stolen/lost, the data is still on the other.
RAID1 cannot accelerate writes, but at least it can accelerate reads – meaning that when you offload the data from the SD cards to your computer, you’ll be able to get roughly twice the speed.
I would like to see the 36MP sensor put to use in an Alpha Camera (preferably without the AA filter like in the Nikon D800E)
Price tag similar to the Nikon…
@Admin: And you will adapt your rumors according to that?
🙂 🙂 🙂
A88 – A FF @24MP for 1800$ (like they do with a850)
and lens budget FF 17-35/3.5 for 900$
A RX200: 1″ sensor, 24-70mm f2-4, weather seeling, possiblity for addon-EVF, fully articulated lcd screen (maybe touchscreen).
There are two cameras that I would find hard to resist:
-A 36x36mm square sensored camera with a larger EVF, like the ones in Sony’s cine cameras (HDVF-C30W, etc), and a removable long eyepiece so it can be used looking downwards rather than held against the head.
-An ultra compact and portable full frame with a built in viewfinder (either EVF or optical with transparent LCD framelines). Either A-mount or E-mount would be acceptable.
There’s enough standard DSLR type cameras coming out that it’s hard to get excited about them. I feel little need to get caught in an upgrade cycle for incremental ISO and DR improvements. I’d rather something that allowed me to shoot in new places and in new ways.
36×36 – amen to that (+1)
SONY A1, please
I don’t think Sony will develop a new FF sensor for the A95. It is probably cheaper to re-use the existing 24MP sensor of the A99.
But then the question is, what to strip away to make it cheaper.
Weather sealing?
Magnesium-alloy body?
Swivel-LCD?
a61 = (a57+a65)/2: a57 + OLED VF + GPS
i could skip the GPS but i know some woudl want it
how bout tho the new focus limiter in body like the new A99 too
i woudl be sold in a heartbeat for that comb
SONY A1 FF 36MP and Builtin grip !!!
I want Nex 7n,r…x with phase detection on sensor, wifi, aplications (like nex6) and a liitle better iso results. If it will be water(dust)proof, will be my mistress. 🙂
E-MOUNT G LENS WITH CONSTANT APPERTURE 2.8 !!!
And a new nex-7 firmware with the new apps !!
Capable firmware, equal to the hardware for the A77. I do not understand crippling the camera, if Sony want to be taken seriously they need a serious APS, FF & NEX camera to be seen as a serious competitor.
First choice: RX-1 type with 24-70 fixed lens (no video)
Second Choice: NEX type FF
Third Choice: RX100 type with viewfinder.
A FF NEX thanxs! NEX-9? I would buy it the very first day!!
So comical! The new cameras announced at Photokina haven’t even shipped yet. And now we’re talking about what we want next? What I want is the ability to actually buy a NEX 6 . . . to hold it in my hands and actually shoot with it.
In previous post I meant to say “First choice: RX-1 type with 24-70 fixed lens, AND VIEWFINDER BUILT IN (no video)
A Sony SLT FF as cheap as possible.
+1
Landscape photography Nex: Nex7ff – fullframe 36Mp for best wideangle Performance with manual M-mount lenses (microlenses)
Birding & Sports: A77r – basicly a A77 with improved autofocus and buffer, better AF module with more sensitivity F8 crosstype sensors (aps-c for better reach with tele lenses) + new improved firmware
In general: Sony please give us more photography oriented cameras and less video cameras! Means more serious photography features and less video.
Means:more button & dial functionality:
-Rating as a programmable feature for buttons
-programmable video rec button (please just make it black with red dot)
-timelapse in camera
-better folder structure
-burst pictures with own sequence naming
better built quality:
-Grip rubber on both my Nex 7 and A77 seems to expand over time and therefor gets unattached or falls of 🙁
-A77 display is Not weatherproof!it died several time on me in the rain(light rain) and started to smell very bad
-Nex 7 on/off switch is far too loose and switches on/off in bags
A77 – Firmware update to fix THE OVEREXPOSURE FLASH ISSUE AT HIGH ISO …
A77 – Firmware update to fix THE OVEREXPOSURE FLASH ISSUE AT HIGH ISO …
A77 – Firmware update to fix THE OVEREXPOSURE FLASH ISSUE AT HIGH ISO …
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $4000
+
100mbps bit rate in video
4:2:2 HDMI uncompressed video out
1080P in 60fps
Allegedly the A99 does all of these albeit via the HDMI out (except 60p of course which it’ll do internally as well):
100mbps bit rate in video
4:2:2 HDMI uncompressed video out
1080P in 60fps
NO its not.
it shoots 4:2:0 24mbps[worst thing even can happen], why not have a better codec on board??
HDMI is only 4:2:0, nobody calls it uncompressed anyway. why not 4:2:2 ???
FF NEX basically Nex7 Body with improved everything.
Fix the Nex7
DMF should allow manual focus whenever you turn the focus ring not after you lock focus.
A double press for the Movie record button would be great. 1 Press for a liveview preview of what the recording will look like (press any other button to cancel out ) 2nd press of record button starts the recording. That would be IMHO the best fix for movie record button.
PRoper auto-bracketing +/- 2 EV and upto 5 exposures would be welcome.
Tethering through USB port would be awesome.
More lens pls….Zzzz
Sony A1 with built in batterypack
I’d like to see a more affordable Full Frame alpha. Perhaps like the a99 but without all the fancy video stuff and without the 102 on sensor AF points, just a better conventional AF module.
I only make ‘fun’ videos and my lenses (many 3rd party) will never be supported by the new PDOS stuff.
I’d like an SLT without slideshow effect at 5fps.
Finally, how about a77 fw V2.0 with some of the a99 software features and various a77 issues fixed.
I’d prefer RX2 – 24-70/2.8 ZA lens, fullframe, EVF
Nex FF 24mp for 1800-2000 that can use rangefinder size lenses
The only great thing left to do: Nex 9 FF 24Mpx.
1. Entry level FF SLT whatever it is called. Lower priced. Low development cost
2. CS RX1 WITHOUT THE VIDEO CAPABILITY (obviously lower priced, hopefully by $500, or with built in EVF and same price) I want that one (development cost: almost none)
3. A real follow-up for the R1: APS-C with the R1 zoom lens updated. (may be hard to develop)
I agree with the high necessity of firmware updates. That can rekindle sales if implemented right. Sony seems to turn out new models instead. Bad for them.
A95! A95! A95! A95! A95! A95! A95!
Next camera: RX10 with APS-C 20M pixel sensor & on chip phase detection, fixed Zeiss 16-80mm F2.8 lens, in-lens shutter, articulated LCD screen aka waist level finder. Basically a spiritual successor to the R1 with RX1/RX100 design values.
For the record, I like fixed lenses; they are better integrated physically and optically, keep the sensor clean and allow for silent operation.
A95 16MP FF $1600 Tethering, Wifi, 720p120, 5N ISO, 5N DR,
A97 20MP FF $2100 Higher ISO, DR, etc
A88FF with 16 or 18Mpix, 15 FPS full focus no crop, super ISO performance (around 4000 point score on DXO mark), wireless tethering, no fancy video feature, @1500-1900 USD, what a happy new year 😛
i wan a A99 that i can get within this week… 🙁
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
or $999 would be better! 🙂
Pipe Dream: nex8 with 24mm x 24mm sensor 36mp no SS is ok, $1800.
First desire: nex FF with SS for 3K, can be Leica sized, must have SS and EVF and no hump. Would be happy with no mechanical shutter but would prefer with a mechanical shutter. Should use A900/A99 batteries.
2nd place: would be A83, an A65 with FF sensor (don’t care about resolution) for 1500. Plastic fantastic!
3rd place: 21mm 50mm 80mm and 120mm TS lenses designed to cover a 35mm x 35mm sensor, with CD AF. I’ll pay $2500 a piece and buy the 36mpix A1 with the square sensor for $3500-4000.
Sony NEX-9 FF.
2nd that (e)motion.
http://i.imgur.com/tijfs.jpg
I want a FF all MANUAL camera oriented, like the old film days. No AF, just focus confirmation, no AE only manual exposure, RAW (no jpeg). EVF or OVF. The new Hot shoe and PC terminal for X sync. P, A, S, M mode and a new B/W easy selector button. Fixed 3″ LCD on the back with a retro look menu. MD mount lens and at least 3 NEW prime MD lenses. Minolta X-700 retro body look. A camera for both the school beginner and the professional. 🙂
wait, you only want manual exposure but A, P and S mode?
>> fail 😀
Sony A1 FF 56Mpx WiFi bulid in flash! $1500 😉
The A79: similar to the A77 but with the new silent multicontroller, next gen 16 mp sensor with phase detect pixels, 12 fps but with 30 frames raw+jpeg buffer/ 50 frames jpeg buffer, hardware custom 1,2,3 setting banks on mode dial instead of single MR position, dual sd card slots, Wifi, stills during movie, new hotshoe.
And bring in the lenses (yes, with weather sealing/SSM/SAMII)!
Renovation of old / antique lens A-Mount!!!
No camera, LENSES
+1
Agreed, enough with the bodies. Fill the gaps in the lens E and A lineups, update some of the Minolta holdovers that still populate the Alpha line and add weather sealing to more of the lenses across the range.
Nex needs some fast zooms, a better macro and a few more fast primes in the tele range. The 10-18 is a good start, now add a 16-50/2.8 and a 70-200/2.8 or 4. The Macro is a disappointment, something in the 60/2.8 range of the new Olympus would be nice. Also a fast 85 and 135mm lens would be nice for portraits. Nex lenses need weather sealing, the 18-200 sucks in dust like a Dyson.
Alpha needs refreshed lenses with the new AFD system not being supported with all lenses. Some use some pretty old focusing systems as well, and many are not weather sealed. Pro bodies need pro lenses.
Canon’s huge appeal is the range of lenses, Sony falls far short in the lens lineup. If Sony ever wants to put a dent in the CaNikon duopoly it needs a more complete lens lineup.
+ 10 !!!
+1
+1 I’m very seriously looking to swap over to Canon or Nikon due to a lack of lenses that I want in the Sony/Minolta Line up. Have already listed all my equipment up for sale, hoping there’s interest on it… A99 alone isn’t going to entice me to stay in the FF Sony Camp.
The NEX-6 with the new small standard zoom looks very appealing to me. But I have two older m43 cameras and a few primes. A NEX -> M43 adapter (resulting in an multi aspect sensor) would be nice that supports auto-focus and apparature control… not sure if this is technically possible (have seen there exist some manual adapters at least… but do they change the normal M43 distance between sensor and lens?).
+1
A high quality (like the Zeiss 24/1.8) fast 90mm or 135mm prime.
RX10 APS-C with a 24-70mm equivalent zoom. Widest aperture should be somewhere around 2.5 and price around 900€ max.
You and admin must be dreaming.
FF sensor, 36 to 48MP, prefer NEX but would consider SLT, $3,500
FF 18 MP A-Mount with moving mirror if you want shoot without PDAF. Without AA Filter. Master of darkness. And a better JPG engine, of course.
An SLT with a square sensor (30x30mm) in a square box (think classic Hasselblad, but much smaller). Two big knobs on the right hand side for aperture and shutter control. EVF hidden by the LCD, which swiwels from the top so that it can be put flush on top of the box. Voila, you can use it at waist level like a ‘blad. 😀
+1 !!!
Is it just me and JMi who can understand the beauty of such a design? And you guys at Hasselblad? Wouldn’t it be cool to get back to your roots? You are being rediculed with this pimped NEX thing. Instead of carving wooden handles, you could move the electronics, batteries etc. to behind the sensor, making tomorrow’s Hasselblad. With a Sony 30x30mm sensor you would surpass everything else in the market, including the 60x60mm film format of way back then.
Nex-9 FF, 24mp, $2,500
NEX with built-in EVF and IBIS <2500€ (incl. adaptor for SAL)
16 MPix sufficient
built-in-flash not necessary
equals an mirrorless FF alpha with the possibility to adapt NEX lenses (with Crop)
NEX FF for around $1600
Sony NEX-9 FF 24MP phase detect on sensor, 1080P MP4 24/30 fps, 24-70mm f/2.8 power zoom lenses for $2,500
Either an NEX-9 FF, or an RX-1 FF BUT with interchangeable lenses. Personally I’d prefer the RX-1 form factor – very like a Leica FF but more reasonably priced with Zeiss lens options, good high-ISO performance, not too many MPs. Built-in EVF like NEX-7, or hybrid like Fuji X-100. Lovely. Job done.
Fully featured shoulder mount 60p video camera with 3D 4K full frame sensors.
If the sensor is square, should be 48 MP perhaps
I’d like simultaneous video with one-three full resolution stills per second
Sony A95 SLT with 24 MP FF sensor for $2100! It’s a slightly less featured A99 similar to what was done with A900/A850.
+Some lenses to have a something unique
like
STF macro lenses,
T/S macros
If sony can get it down to the size of the XZ-2 or LX7, then an RX10 with a 35, 50, or a 24-70 lens would be on the top of my list of cameras to buy.
No matter the camera Sony you should improve your JPG engine. Take a clue from Canon, Nikon and Olympus. It will benefit the entire line of products.
In camera or lens possibility to stabilize not only for horizontal/vertical camera shake but also forward/backward and tilt shake
They need to fix the cameras already in the marketplace, I am not sure I will be buying another Sony, I have the A77, it replaced a Canon 7d and I am not sure I ended up with the better camera.
I don’t think a Nex-9 should be 3,000 I think 2,000 or just a little more should do based on the nex-7 price.That is all I would want or need for a long time. I would like then to add steady shot I would pay extra for that. I would skip the a99 get the Nex-9 w the a-mount adapter and use it as a main or backup for my a900
I like the NEX-5N or NEX-5R because it has NO viewfinder and NO built in flash. If there’s ever going to be another follow up version, I wish a mic input (3.5 mm) with manual recording level please.
Thanks
NEX FF 24MP $2000
Oh and they should make the nex-9 just under 20 megapixels w a new sensor for super low light capability. I think this megapixel war is crazy and unnecessary especially w software that can double and triple picture size with minimal to no real loss in quality
A Sony R2…with interchangeable lenses.
yep, sounds good to me
I need FF 18mpx body like A77 or crop like A77 but 16mpx
NEX-9 FF camera for $3000
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor for $3000
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1500 with new lenses. Many new lenses to complete the line-up.
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800 – hmmmm.. if it come true, i want it!
In fact i want to buy FF STL camera, but more intresting for me SLT FF camera(big body, A-mount, not NEX) but without mirror and with phace pixels.
12-18 Mpx. Not more. And exelent video skils. Maybe with 12-15FPS serial shooter and lage boffer (100+ frames).
SLT 24MP, 4K Video capable (thru software, so to skip the tax mark-up), High DR, super low light capabilities
Nex FF 24 meg $2000
Sony A1 for $3000
But lest be realistic and look at what Sony has done all along. If they create an A1/A9 it will have very similar specs to Canikon and a few extra things. And will be priced like the 1D & Dx line. So it will be priced closer to $6000 not $3000.
My guess will be A99 with 36Mp Sensor and 12 FPS off the full frame sensor. Maybe hopefully higher end AF or refinement of what is in the A99 and a new/next generation View finder.
Uma SONY SLT A95 18MP à $1800 como câmera inicial Full Frame seria excelente.
Falta também uma lente “SONY 17-55 mm 2.8” com qualidade.
Catanduva, SP – Brazil.
The NEX line is fantastic as it is. A FF NEX will not only undercut the Alpha line (A99) but it will be placed ona no man’s land, pro would demand better features, an enthusiast would balk at the premium price. The one thing I would ask of Sony is to improve the bit rate. A recent comparison of BlackMagic camera to Canon FF body shows that sensor size is not everything.
However a megazoom compact like HX200 with that beautiful RX100 1″ sensor would make a fine travel camera for me. The telephoto doesn’t have to extend to a crazy 800mm in the HX200 but a 300mm or 400mm would do just fine. Priced at a higher than the HX line. Consumers with high disposable income qould love this camera.
An APS-c RX10 with a fast standard zoom 24-85mm & constant aperture like Panasonic FZ150 will be nice.
I want a99 with good AF area coverage, please. Can you do it Sony, or I will have to be stuck with central spot AF for good? I tried Nikon d600, D800, Canon 5Dmk3 and can see how D800, D4, 5Dmk3 and 1D-X are superior in the comfort and speed of operation in this aspect. A99 feels like a tool for videographers
A full frame 35(selectable to apc or other formats) component system similar to the likes of the Mamiya medium format digitals.
Let the buyer mix and match components at his retailer until he has his exact “needs and wants” fulfilled for his photographic experience. For instance a selection of sensor bodies where he can pick high resolution or high iso. Viewfinder housings where he can pic optical or electronic, mirrored/ slt/ or mirrorless. Lens mount select ability between A or E or maybe a combo mount.
Make it so that all these components can be mixed and matched or upgraded at anytime utilizing a never changing common mounting system. This way when something new comes out you can just buy the component and click it into your system and update the firmware changes via the net.
Everyone would then be happy with the cameras they put together for themselves and the system could evolve as the technology improves.
Nex (6/7) with GPS for geotagging
NEX9FF but not with disproportional lenses like on APSC nex or a RX1 with hybrid viewfinder and a f1.4 lens.
Square sensor. No AA.
I’m hoping for an “A1” Full Frame Camera with a square 36×36 sensor, or 30×30 if A-Mount lenses won’t cover a 36×36 image circle. Optical Viewfinder please, with the option to add an EVF via the hot shoe (if one desires the benefits of an EVF, I.E. to view a letterboxed image to make composition of 2×3 aspect ratio pictures easier). Plus, I’d like those 102 additional phase detection AF points on the sensor itself like the A99 has. The frame rate can be 3-5 frames per second, no need for super high frame rates.
A Square format camera like this would be a much bigger real world “game changer” for many working professionals than the RX1 is being touted as being in the press. And if SONY won’t make it, or if they insist on making it with an EVF and SLT technology, I would hope that Hasselblad would see the value in making a DSLR like this.
Otherwise I guess I’ll be stock piling A900 bodies, as there’ll be no professional camera made ever again for the A-Mount. An Optical Viewfinder is a must for a wedding photographer. Why? Because we shoot in dark reception halls. And we use multiple off-camera strobes to beautifully illuminate our photographs. If we were to give an EVF enough “gain” to be able to see well enough to compose a shot in such a dark room, we’d have to be dialing in a shutter speed of like a full second or 2, resulting in nasty, orange streaks of light bleeding into our photographs from the excessive ambient exposure after the flashes popped. Not to mention the eye strain associated with squinting into a bright, 6500K screen, while rushing around a dimly light 3200K room. The rods and cones in our eyes wouldn’t be able to adjust quickly enough, and we inevitably end up tripping over kids and old ladies on the dance floor!
I know this because my first digital cameras were the Minolta DiMage 7Hi and then the Minolta A2. And while I fell in love with the image stabilization in those cameras, enough to buy the A100, A700, A850, and A900 afterwards, and invest heavily in A-Mount glass… I also learned from shooting with those EVF cameras that EVF’s are NOT the way to go for shooting in the dark. You’ve gotta have an Optical Viewfinder for shooting weddings. Period.
You can’t seriously be comparing a Minolta EVF to Sony’s latest and greatest in the A99, right? You do realize EVF technology has advanced a lot in the last 6 years.
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX sensor
I did a YouTube video with my reasons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc7e20W_26I
I would like a NEX 8 or 9
The features and MP of the NEX 7
with the features of the NEX 6 from a control and enhanced focusing and low light capability
as well as WIFI and a touch screen like the NEX 5R
Full frame NEX
I’m glad to read that somebody actually taking pictures in dimly lit rooms has the same problems as I have with the EVF: needing to pump the gain up and not seeing anything and the eye strain associated with squinting into a bright, 6500K screen… When I posted about these problems I was mocked and called an idiot…
BTW: I have the same problems, but with the NEX7. It is not a problem with the old cameras like the Dimage, but a problem inherent to the EVF system.
Maybe we need to reframe this slightly buy taking costs away and product names like NEX and SLT as we tend to get wrapped up in product names like NEX or SLT and not the bigger picture of what it is we are hoping to see or trying to ask for.
First, I think that all of you would agree that smaller and lighter is better than bigger and heaver. One of the first points of divergence is how much performance and feature loss is tolerable to have a smaller and lighter camera, and this depends on what your goal is with the end result produced.
So let’s agree for this post that we want the best IQ we can get!
I think Lenses are the real issue
I want to see a camera system that offers a focal-length an assortment between let’s say 8mm to 800MM and offers apertures on selected prime lenses from f/1.2 to /f2.0. With optical quality of the highest order and the lenses need to offer some level of protection from the elements and have a build quality that lasts.
And here is the kicker……………I no longer care if it’s A-mount, E-Mount of something new and different, just make it work with what is today called a full-frame sensor or maybe a square 36×36
Does todays E-mount offer this, can it offer this……….you tell me?
Can the current NEX architecture support a complete lens assortment of 8mm to 800mm to make the system are system for both mom & dad and pros?
Will Sony offer a smaller/lighter E-Mount 300mm/f2.8 like it has for the A-Mount, or a 70-200/f2.8?
The next issues with lenses are their size and weight.
Anyone that has carried a camera with any vendor’s 70-200/f2.8 for more than an hour knows what I mean and the longer the focal-length and the faster the speed the bigger and heaver the lens is.
He whole idea of carrying a camera like the NEX-9 loses its appeal if lenses are not available in a size and weight that better matches the body.
So let’s forget about the names NEX and SLT and think more about a full-frame mirrorless camera that has a complete lens assortment and is smaller and lighter than what Canon and Nikon currently sell.
This is what I want to buy….
Mirrorless body about the size and shape of the current SLT design or a little smaller.
All of the features of the a99 but with a bigger buffer to allow for longer burst rates.
A 36MP sensor that equals or betters the Dx0 score of the d800 or even the RX1 that has a fast an accurate focusing on the sensor.
If this is a NEX fine, or a RX1 with a new lens system that’s fine or a mirrorless (no SLT) a99 even better!
NEX-9 FF, 24MP, $2000
A1 SLT FF, 36MP, $3000
NEX-9 FF camera for $3000
Witam
Jeszcze nie ma testów A99 i może nie powinienem krytykować ale z dostępnych zdjęć widać ze tak jak A77 , A99 na wysokim ISO nie jest ciekawie . Wiec Sony powinno wypuścić aparat FF( a drugi APS-C )który przegoni konkurencje na wysokim ISO , będzie miał sprawny AF który będzie miał około 40 punktów AF wszystkie krzyżowe . Reszta jest super ergonomia , meni , inne funkcje dotyczące filmowania i fotografowania . Sony umie robić matryce ale 24 mpix matryce od A77 i A99 są kiepskie .Pytam dlaczego ??? Może dlatego że Marketing bierze górę nad rozsądkiem i możliwościami aparatu !!!! .
To powinno zrobić na początek a później wypuścić A1 z 36 mpix
I’m still holding off for a FF camera that will accept both A and E lenses with an adapter. About 36 MP. It does not need a built in flash or be able take movies. EVF with focus peaking. Better auto-focus than my A900.
RX-10, FF, 24mp, w/24-96mm Zeiss zoom, OLED EVF for $3000
or
RX-10, APS-C, 24mp, w/ 24-96mm (equiv) Zeiss zoom, OLED EVF for $1800
If it ain’t Zeiss, forget about it.
Either of these would be effectively like a big sensor RX-100 and if the controls were basically the same, one could have and use both with the greatest convenience because of similarity.
RX10 APS-C 16MP + 16-70mm f/2.8-4 PZ kit for $999
Admin, you have to make poll like what m43 admin did. long list of selection list 😀
NEX 9 FF with a 16 MPX sensor.
Yes! 2nd that (e)motion!
A95 18MP FF for $1800. it should have much better ISO performance than A1 36MP.
Since everything is going to be SLT I want a FF and an APSC camera that works when the temperature creeps a few degrees above 100 degrees. Yesterday was the third event I shot where the temperature is barely over 100 degrees and the A77 decides its too hot to work and shuts down. I’m 58 fricking years old, I stand in the sun with no shade for 8 hours taking pictures, no food to eat, 3 quarts of gatorade to sustain me and I don’t have a “melt down”. How about a camera that is just as resilient? I’m sure the a77 is fantastic if you are going to limit your shooting to a studio or outside shooting in cool or cold weather but just a couple of degrees over 100 and it goes on strike? Give me a break. Sink that heat away so the camera doesn’t “crap out”. Sony, I have spent $1500 on a camera that stops working at 102 degrees ambient temperature. (No image stabilization on, I’m shooting from a tripod with a Sigma 50-500 lens.) Why do I want to spend $3000 on a camera, such as the a99, that will in all probability do the same thing? I don’t and I have no reason to believe that the a99 will perform at 102 degrees without doing the funky dead cockroach. I pulled out my trusty a900 that has never had a heat issue even at 110 degrees (and has over 100,000 clicks on it). I’m shooting in Arizona not Antarctica and not in some air conditioned studio either.
Straying from topic and poll now…
For all the complaints about the battery life with slt’s I can say I milked the heck out of one battery in yesterday’s shoot. I forgot my other batteries and I “milked” and “goaded” my one battery with 82% charge on it at the beginning of the shoot to get me through 2100 shots on the a77 before it decided to go on strike. I then put that battery in my a900 and finished the shoot with that one battery. The battery was not new, it was the battery that came with my a900 when the a900 came out.
Since I’m in the whining mood right now, let’s cover the 70-400 mm lens. Sigma built their lens so the tripod collar could be used as a carrying handle. Did Sony do this with their 70-400? No. I love the image quality of the lens but here’s what I want your engineers to do Sony, use what they make. Take an a900 or a77 with a 70-400 mm lens on it, go out on a 15 mile hike with it and use it the entire time they are covering that 15 miles. (Yes, some of my “nature walks” cover 15 miles in one day.) Not too easy to carry around is it? Another issue, that piece of rubber that you place your hand on to adjust the zoom, starts stretching out when it starts to get “hot” outside and then you can’t adjust the zoom. That piece of rubber just slides around the lens and does nothing. You end up with an “impressive” $1500 lens with the Sony name on it that needs duct tape wrapped around it so you can use it. Makes an impressive conversation piece when you come across someone with a Canon or Nikon. You can brag about how much duct tape you use compared to them.
Joe Viera
Glendale, AZ
P.S. Perhaps a thread where we can post honest creative criticism without appearing to “rant” would be in order. I can do that, I’m just “pissed off” right now over that camera shutting down in the middle of a shoot when the temp creeps up. If there is one, please post a link to it. I thank you.
FF SLT – 18mp, 24mp or 36 mp, I don’t care – but without video
dont understand… you can simply not use it…
and video attracts more people to use these cameras
fredo – that’s another discussion. I was simply answering the question put to us – “what do *I* want as the next camera?” Not, “what camera do I think Sony should produce in order to make sales?” Admin asked a straightforward question, and I gave a straightforward answer –
The camera that I would like (but which I fully understand I will not get) is a FF SLT without video.
FF version of Nex 6.
IMHO it shouldn’t by more expensive than d600 / 6d.
$2000 is about to be right price.
If there are no clear choices, how do you present the results from all the comments here and make it meaningful?
NEX-9 FF easy as my main interest in Sony cameras is to find the best solution for old legacy lenses, both rangefinder lenses like Leica and old SLR lenses.
While NEX-5N and new R have a good sensor for use Leica lenses these cameras are just to tiny to balance well and neither have a real hot-shoe, nor built-in EVF.
NEX-7 have almost everything one could wish except a sensor that works with wide-angle RF lenses.
NEX-6 seem to strike a perfekt balance between the above cameras, taking the best from each. And it is quite affordable as well. However it is still crop format and therefore taking away a lot of view from wider lenses.
I guess the NEX-9, that I think will be inevitable, as the high demand among advanced photographers for such a camera will make it profitable for Sony to produce, even if they don’t have many lenses for it, will see the light of day within 1-2 years.
How a RX-10 with APS-C sensor could sell for $ 999 when one can buy the NEX-6 with the new small kit-lens sell for the same price I personally don’t understand. Even if it was “only” $ 800 I see no reason to be cheap insted av buying Nex-6 and get a much better camera with EVF, hot-shoe and a real grip.
Because a RX-10 would propably be in the same style as RX100 and RX1 with no EVF and smallest possible body, which means no grip and very small and cramped space for the fingers and no buy from me.
I assume a FF NEX-9 will use same sensor as in A99. Not a bad choice. But on paper the new sensor for Leica M seem to be the best for rangegfinder lenses. IBIS on sensor like A99 would also be welcome. If the body because of that had to be made bigger than NEX-7 I would only welcome as I think the NEX-cameras are too small to balance well with the APS-C-lenses, let alone adapted FF lenses. Make it the size of Fujifilm X-Pro1 or at least X-E1 and I will be happy, but of course in the styling of Sony NEX-cameras.
I would buy a Nex-9 that has no movie functions whatsoever, but a prime zoom 20-60 mm / 1:2,8 and a larger electronic viewfinder with 1:1 image that gives near-optical control over your subject. I want a pro photo-camera for raw shooting, not a hybrid machine for everything.
A95 18MP FF $2000. For excellent high Iso pics.
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF for 1500$
A FF sensor mirrorless on SLT/SLR like body with advanced CCD sensor, improved hi-ISO IQ (clean image with maintained detail on ISO-6400 at least), red pattern LED AF assist, CF memory card slot, 1/8000 sec (or more) shutter speed, 1/250 sec (or more) off shoe flash sync.
Mirrorless should have clearer IQ than SLT and Sony has already had the capability to put the PDAF and CDAF chip on the same sensor.
Yeah.. in my dream and remains.
Add 1/16000 electronic shutter, wireless tether, and wireless flash system that triggers both camera and flash from a remote rather than have the camera function as the trigger.
Sony A1 SLT.
And to mirror the lenses remark, Sigma 120-300mm while we’re at it. :p
Nex7-like FF 18MP, basic weather sealing, 2500€
NEX-9, FF 24MP, and…
FIX THE DAMN RECORD BUTTON ISSUE, and…
FIX THE DAMN PROBLEM WHERE THE EVF SENSOR KEEPS THE CAMERA FROM ENTERING SLEEP MODE, and…
FIX THE DAMN USER INTERFACE, IT SUCKS, and…
MAKE VIDEOS AND STILLS APPEAR IN THE SAME FOLDER IN PLAYBACK MODE, and…
ADD 2 OR 3 CUSTOM SETTINGS CONFIGS, and…
… oh wait, I guess all Sony needs to do is fix my damn NEX-7 with a firmware update and I’ll be happy, but I guess we know that’s not going to happen anytime soon. They’ll just keep releasing camera bodies for us suckers to buy as “updates” over our existing beta bodies. Sony’s product philosophy is really pissing me off, and even though I kinda like the system (especially now with the new lenses), I may sell it all and move to Fuji, who seem to actually care for their EXISTING customers by releasing nice firmware updates regularly. They are also coming out with some really nice lenses that are faster (f/1.4!) than the Sony versions.
Sony… how about us guys that already bought one of your camera bodies? I guess you don’t give a rat’s a$$ about us, right?
Thanks for open up this topic. I would like to see a camera of my dream, not just from Sony. I always dream of a Full frame camera which able to capture 16-bit Raw file which great software support from 3rd parties software. If using DNG, that will be great. The system should have a lot of good lenses from legendary manufacturer such as Fujifilm, Zeiss, Leica, schneider, Ricoh of course Minolta. All lenses should have distance scale and DOF marking. If they offer leaf shutter, that will be great. Has nicely layout buttons/dials. Able to interface with flash or equivalent accessories via ISO hotshoe. With built in flash. Able to command remote flash. Able to process fast when shooting long exposure shots. More than 5 frame per second shooting. Open up the code for user modify (including coding; SDK) to manipulate/process the RAW files. Has built in GPS and support WiFi and Tether shooting over computer and mobile devices. The system should be small in size. Built in viewfinder. has full articulated LCD screen. Tripod mount should be away from battery/memory card door. peaking focus and zoom in focus. has button to focus to pre-set focus distance, e.g. hyperfocal, infinity, shortest focus, 40ft focus. independent shutter and aperture command dials. Long lasting battery life. quick wake up. Supper Accurate metering. Accurate color. Great Low light performace. Has full manual video recording with 2.5k capability.
More compacts a la RX100, maybe fixed lens . More lenses for the Nex 7
Greatings!
Maybe an RX00 – 48MP medium format ‘compact’ with a fixed 80mm lens for $4999?
… although I am sure Sony can push it up to 68MP
Really?
I’m with you, except make it with next gen sensor (Foveon like full colour sensing), with no AA filter and interchangeable lenses.
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
+1
+1.
Make it a faster version of the a99. I’d love to upgrade to an a99, even though I don’t really need more MP than my a55 has. But while the gain in high-ISO and focusing options make the a99 look good, losing speed, and losing the built-in flash, are potential problems.
I’d love to see a pivoting viewfinder, as some NEX models support, in the SLT line as well. I usually hold the camera below me and look down into it, a pivoting viewfinder could give SLT viewfinders a clear advantage over optical, more like a classical “reflex viewfinder.”
Forget a new camera, how about tuning up the A-77 with 2.0 fimware ?
+1
…a full-frame NEX-9 with 24mp and electronic viewfinder a la NEX-7 would be “sweet” …and of course interchangeable lens provision
i’d love a Nex-9 with a series of slim full frame lenses.. .
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
I want a cheap FF the most (if Nex can outdo this then sure a Nex)
I would buy for $6000 a waterscealed full-frame NEX9 with sensor stabilisation, electronic viewfinder and an outstanding 50mm f:1.2 lens.
RX2 with EVF for $2000
NEX-9 FF for max. $1500-2000 (Sensor size should not be that big step in price)
A NEX-9, Full-Frame, 24MP, for under $2,000.
Use the NEX-7 control layout
Add a touch-screen for focusing.
Already plan to get the a99, won’t think about to get cheaper a95 nor a1, plus i don’t think the a1 will be only 200 difference between a99, nex ff is not my favour, but i am quite interesting on rx10…
No new cameras until Sony has the same range of lens that Canikon users have.
FF NEX body between $2000-2400 will eat into 6D and D600 sales. On the other hand, there’s little incentive for Canikon shooters to choose A95 over 6D/D600.
And if Sony is making an RX100 APS-C compact, some requests include: evf, hotshoe, and leaf shutter zoom.
Bottom line is: Only current A-mount shooters want A95, where as ‘the world’ wants FF NEX.
I’m very happy with my RX100. But I’ll upgrade it to RX10 if the video is able to take advantage of APS-C sensor. A small hand grid is a must have, better power up time or power saving mode…
Nex-7R, Two control dial, 24 megapixels with phase detection, Bionz processor and the New Hotshoe. Lenses is a cheap basic 300mm zoom lense, no G series please.
I agree and I am a A-Mount shooter. I would so get a full frame nex over a a99 And i really want a A99.With a full frame nex I could alway use the adapter so its the best of both worlds.
i would like an intelligent wearable camera that will use an array of built-in sensors to take pictures automatically triggered by changes in its environment.Maybe it will use a fisheye lens with about 130° -1 40° angle of view & a CMOS sensor of 5 to 8 MP and it would be welcome if the shutter will be triggered at key moments based on input from six internal sensors. I will use it to record events without having to operate a camera. Addditionally i will expect internal memory storage & bluetooth connectivity.
Nex-9 FF for $3,000? Have you lost you mind, man?
NEX-9 FF camera 36 MPX for $2699 body only!
Sony A1 SLT with 48 MPX sensor for $3499 body only (Contrast focus Mode possible lower the filter mirror.) 380 point sensor focus point, wide 27 point phrase detection focus point.
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MPX FF sensor for $1800, Touch screen please.
Full frame Alpha should Skip the 36 MPX version sensor, let the NEX-9 have it, cause without mirror its iso performance can catch up with the rest also set it apart with NEX-7 on pixel count
RX10 APS-C fixed Zaiss lens camera 16-50 PZ for $1399
RX-2 24 mm 1.8 FF fixed Zaiss lens 3299
I’d love to see them doing the “square sensor” STL 36MP FF camera, basically just expanding the existing 24MP sensor, without losing its properties. If a real pro camera I’d pay ~5k€ for that beast. 🙂
+1
No more SLT crap!!! Give us back the A-580 with a modern
16 mp sensor and a new firmware for 750 $, body only. Stop
f–king people with FF expensive dreams! Didn’t you heard anything about economic crisis?
Full frame NEX
I’ve just ordered the A99. I’m not intested in a new camera for the coming years.
I would suggest Sony to invest in new lenses, especially high quality FF lenses for a moderated price.
Sony A85 FF SLT 16MP for 2000 USD super high iso speed demon and weather sealed please.
24MP FF SLT with focus on photo, not video (as A99) – that means better AF.
Also, there’s a dire need for FF Alpha lenses – with SSM and weather sealing.
Full Frame Mirrorless, Maybe 2 products:
High ISO NEX-8 with 20-24mp,
High Res/Dynamic range NEX-9 with 30-36mp
integrated EVF on both, weather sealing, easy manual exposure and good manual focus
+AF Zeiss primes/Leica M adapter
More HQ Lenses for the NEX7; NEX9 FF, 36MPix, E-Mount, 102 Phase + Contrast AF, 2000€
RX10, definitely!
Second to that, a high-pixel count (e.g., 36 MP) full-frame for < $3,000.
I want a full size body NEX 9 with FF sensor at 16million pixels
I’m still enamored with my A77. I’d love to have a full-frame camera or better yet a full square sensor. For me, the A99 doesn’t offer enough of a change to justify the expense. I can get that aspect now by changing lenses or distance. (Yeah, I know, not EXACTLY the same.)
What I’m *really* interested in is a high ISO performer with a higher density megapixel count so I can retain detail with larger prints. (Yeah, baby!) Also, a square sensor removes the whole idea of in-camera portrait mode. That all moves to in-head framing and post-process cropping, not how I hold the camera. Novel concept. That would be as big of a change for me as what the EVF did to eliminate pixel peeping. I’d still want a hand grip with that!
I’m investing in A-mount lenses. Hey, I think they rock! Great glass in the G and Zeiss line, and still the only auto-focus Zeiss for a mirror camera. ‘Chomping at the bit’ for a revamped 70-200 G II, 70-400 G II, the new 50mm Zeiss and updates to the existing Zeiss line.
Now if they’d only bring the mirror 500 back with a faster AF motor.
NEX Pro – not expensive FF mirrorless camera with inbody image stabilisation and with not very small all-weather body.
Sony has difficulty delivering lenses for the current set of Nexes. Burdening the E-Mount lens division with creating about five new lenses with FF capabilities does not look like a good strategic decision.
On the consumer side, it makes no sense to buy a camera body years before a decent set of lenses is available (bodies become obsolete fast). Thus, if Sony wants to go mirrorless FF and starts today, it would be 3-5 years before we see a complete system.
But if the Sony fairy asked my wishes, there would be three things that could make my mouth water:
– A FF system with in-body stabilization, EVF and an adapter for Leica glass, and Fuji-like native lenses that integrate the aperture in the lens.
– A compact APS-C camera with a very fast zoom lens and EVF
– A Nex with EVF, dedicated wheels for exposure and ISO and PASM, and integration of HDR and filters into the PASM wheel.
Releasing a fullframe NEX would expand lens options tremendously just like it has with the vg900. The mainstay APS-C e-mount lenses like the kit-zooms would continue to remain the most popular. But we could additionally leverage A-mount, and 3rd party and legacy if we want. It’s a winning situation, and doesn’t require SONY to develop anything else.
Chicken/Egg you have to start someplace, same as all new systems. Plus FF lenses work on APS bodies.
The day a FF body comes, so do some FF lenses. And as all Mirrorless systems have shown, you can launch with 3 lenses and have things pretty well covered to start. People keep complaining about lens systems for these new systems, but it hasn’t stopped them from taking off. With high MP cameras, and digital in general, lens systems will never be as full as the old SLR systems, most the old lenses are redundant, or made obsolete with evolution of lenses, cropping solves a lot of issues too.
Secondly, when the first mirrorless systems came, people went to old M42 and similar lenses every which way. Same would happen with the first FF mirrorless systems. Further with the mounts being able to be licensed we see 3rd parties jumping in. Just look at how many “holes” Zeiss filled with the launch of their 3 lenses for E mount. In it’s short life, E mount has just about all the lenses someone really needs.
No more SLT crap!!! Give us back the A-580 with a modern
16 mp sensor and a new firmware, for 750 $, body only!
Stop f–king people with expensive FF dreams. Didn’t you
heard anything about economic crisis? The real amateur don’t
need 3000 $ equipment for shooting superb photos!
So we are pretty clear that we want a real firmware to make the NEX & 77 into real contenders. So how do we convince Sony. Facebook campaign, Petition, shame them into action. How ?
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
A1 FF with 36MP and feature set to compete with 1Dx and D4, price for body only <5k€
Mk2's of Zeiss 16-35, 24-70, 135, and the G70-200 designed to best work on this pro body.
RX200 with 20-120/2.8 and integrated ND Filter
NEX FF Still body only <3k€, but only if a suitable lens set would be available to cover FF.
CyberShot RX200 with wireless control of Alpha flashes (hot shoe NOT required), EVF and articulated LCD, somewhat larger than RX100 (obviously)
I’d love for the nex7 replacement to be full frame. I don’t know if that would make it a nex7 or a nex9, but I want it. I would think body only would be in the $2k range. I also want a firmware update for my 7. Come on Sony. Show us you still care.
We got enough bodies !! I need a G e-mount lens with constant aperture
AND A NEW FIRMWARE FOR MY NEX 7 !!!
TWO HUNDRED EIGHTY SIXTH!!!
I check my mail daily for my A99. No nerves left to think about anything bigger or newer.
How about the next iteration of the A77 with improved jpeg engine and auto ISO range. All my lenses are for APS-C on Sony A-mount.
Thought about the SAL 70-200 f/2.8 but got the Canon version already and hate to part with it.
NEX 9!
Oh YEAH WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA !! A NEW BODY !!
Actualy there is a new Nex ever 5 month !!
What guy do you think about a new Nex every month !
after Nex 3,C3,3F,5,5N,5R,7 and all Nex cameras…
I hope :
a Nex 8 with GPS
a Nex 9 with GPS and touch screen
A Nex 10 with FF
a Nex 11 with touch screen and GPS
a Nex 12 with FF and touch screen
a Nex 13 with 36MP
a Nex 14 with 36 MP and GPS
a Nex 15 with 42 MP and touch screen
AND A NEX 16 WITH NO LENS
…
YIPIKAYE !!!!!!!!!
Someone asks 48 MP and maybe a 60″ monitor to see the pictures!!! A new 24MP camera (no video, please, NO VIDEO) with really usable 50-25600 ISO and ultrafine AF are enough (see D4 and EOS1) We need better lenses!!! Especially fast fixed wide-angle and improved fast zoom really made for FF sensors, maybe with quality of the Sony 500f4-G (never seen a quality like this before!) or SonnarT*135f1.8ZA. The price is not a problem for who work into the world of photo.
Full frame SLT/SLR with 36 -48 MP ,
I need to upgrade my a900 !!!
The a99 is nice but not enough by way of output image advancements over the a900.
I’ve already ordered the a99 as an upgrade from my a77.
Still have my NEX-7/Zeiss and may upgrade that to the RX1 but I don’t like the integrated flash and seperate EVF… would prefer that the other way round… RX2?
I’d also like a Waterproof RX100 (same as the TX5 and TX10 Cybershots). Waterproof to 20 feet for snorkeling with Whale Sharks. TX10 is fine but a waterproof RX100 would be perfect… and I wouldn’t need to buy a $1500 Underwater housing!!!…
SLT-A1 FF 36-48MP more photo oriented… cut back on the video… $3499 body only
RX2 – Same as RX1 but replace the flash with an integrated EVF – $2999
NEX-9 FF 36MP Photo oriented… less video! – $1999 body only
RX200 Waterproof to 20 feet – $750
…and most important:
Sony should issue a proper 18-month timeline for ‘A’ and ‘E’ mount LENSES.
Issuing a “Timeline” for lenses would not only give current Sony users confidence in their camera purchases but also give New and Canikon users a more definitive reason for buying or moving to the Sony platform.
Sony a75 SLT – an a77 with the NEX-6 sensor – for $1099
Why the difficulty in reading comprehension in this forum? The question was simple – what *camera* would you like to see next? Not – what *product* should Sony bring out next? So, why so many posts about more lenses for instance? Sure, we all want them, and a camera needs lenses to function – but that was not the question, so why do so many folk misunderstand/disregard it? (BTW, that last point is rhetorical)
If Sony released an A1 – it wouldn’t be an SLT – it’d be a mirrorless.
4 numbers = Minolta Film (?)
3 numbers = Sony DSLR A900
2 numbers = Sony SLT A99
1 number = Mirrorless NEX-7
I would love a mirrorless A-Mount series in a (semi) traditional chassis.
I’d also like to see Sony Release an A990 – a DSLR with Optical Viewfinder .. basically same as A900 but with updated sensor, and other tech.
fast focusing, high quality lenses for Nex-7. With short close-focus-distance.
60 or 85 f/1.8 (90 or 135 equiv)
260 f/4.5 (400mm equiv) at 550 gram.
NEX 9 with 24 MP Full Frame & 4Kp30, under $3000
I think that I am on hold for an expensive camera until there is a 4K capable camera.
FF – less emphasis on MP/resolution (bravo for keeping to 24MP despite having a 36MP in the chutes…) but other (non-MP) numbers & associated IQ’s really killer.
Let’s see 18+ EV’s without funky multi-exposure modes.
Let’s see really CLEAN ISO 6400+ (as per ISO 400ish on a900)
Despite my saying “less emphasis” – I’m guessing the market will demand 20+ MP; “teens” of MP’s probably won’t sell adequately in today’s market. 🙁 But I’d look close at a “mere” 16-19MP’s, if those other IQ factors were really high…
Why can we not have a stills only camera? I would love to have the option to buy a camera like the A99 with our all the video options. Make that and sell it for $1500-1800 and I bet you would sell a ton. As a professional photographer I never use the video option on my A77. The A900 was great in this respect, it was a camera for photographers. Take that approach again with better high ISO abilities.
+1
+1.
My perfect camera would be 16-18MP FF, OVF, super fast AF, and killer low ISO capability.
In the meantime I’ll continue shooting with my 7D. Konica Minolta 7D that is LOL!
Two words: Medium. Format.
Pour le prochain SONY:
un NEX 9 FF 36 MPX à 2500 euros.
Nex9 @ NO MORE than double the cost of Nex7
NEX 9 FF 20mpix 1500$
An A99 like body with the FS900 E-mount would be interesting. Ability to adapt a huge variety of lenses, image stabilization, good size camera for grip on larger lenses. Would need to make sure area around mount was clear enough to mount larger lenses, the adaptor would make A-mount lenses clear. A NEX body full frame makes less sense to me as it would be small for most full frames zooms and the like, plus losing stabilization on non NEX lenses.
I agree Bill. I’m surprised that an E7 or E9 doesn’t already exist (E mount EVF SLR form factor). Might be interesting to see what happens next year when the Zeiss E mount lenses are released. Will Sony launch a E7 to replace the A77? Will indicate how much life is left in A mount.
On the camera side, I’ll be happy with NEX 6.
But I badly long for that G medium zoom (and a tele zoom too). f/4 constant aperture (if not f/8).
And no, I do not want neither an SLR nor an SLT. NEX is perfect for me, native lenses without adapters, please.
FF mirrorless
80-12800 ISO
ND built-in
image stabilization
All-I 50 to 90 mbit video
variable frame rates 1-60p : ))
fully articulated display!
focus peaking!!
wifi and open API for developing iOS apps
$2000-2300
– and i’m yours forever, Sony!
What is still missing is a ff compact fixed lens. The digital equivalent of the Contax t2 but more pocketable and a better performer than the fuji x100.
That and more e mount lenses. Maybe an affordable 24?
A RX1 follow-up camera with a much higher pixel number (48 MP or more) that allows
a) a more powerful electronic zoom, and
b) to group adjacent pixels to produce variable effective resolutions (from 48 down to 6 MP) for dealing with very low light conditions,
thus replacing the need for an optical zoom
neither …
I want maximum support for AF-D at A99! For Sony, Minolta, Tamron and Sigma lenses …
I think the POINT OF ASKING WHAT YOU WANT IN THE FUTURE…
its because all last sony camera alpha are letdowns, period.
first you get the nex 5rn, you want it for the new playmemories, wifi, but then they say it had not built in flash, and if the insensor phase focus is like the crap in the nikon j1 where every few shots i get them in the picture and ruin them i will pass.
then the nex 6, the most decent and i believe mass target camera, so good that it make looks bad the nex 7, but the lost of “real” pixels for phase focus i cant stand, also i would like a new nex without evf or hot shoe but with built in flash.
the a99 is great, and everyone was waiting for it, but that nikon can get a 36mp pixel sensor from sony and sony only put a 24mp in the a99??? great for darkness, good for 100,000+iso, but what about day and well light, or photo in studio, you tell me i pay 4 times for a camera that will get me basically the same picture at iso100 than an a65, and that you almost had to invest in new lens system since most lenses are only for aps-c sensors.
and the “dont buy the a99 and neither buy me” the rx1, its a beauty, its a dream, even the price is good for what you get, but… they go and say, look we may do it but with interchangeable lenses, and everyone cancel their preorder, and as usual sony fan modus operandi go in sleep mode until the “next big thing”
SO WHAT I WANT FOR THE FUTURE
i want a camera than dont make feel like something is missing, that it will be fixed in the follow-up number model, i camera i want to buy with no regrets, without thinking “well its good enough until the next one”, i camera i can still hold 2 year after buy it and still felling i got the best, at least 1 year, but that non-sense crap of releasing models 2 times per year, dont you ask panasonic how that strategic work for them, look at apple one good product, never the best but one they stick for at least one year.
IM SAD, wait a longer time for photokina, to see all great cameras sony was supposed to give us, and all i get was a big “LOOK, DONT BUY THEM, BY CES WI WILL ANNOUNCE THE REPLACEMENTS” what a shame, maybe they will release what they should have been released now, maybe then we will rush to buy them, but maybe, just maybe, when the next announcements we will get this same xtrange-usual feeling.
I wish a strong slt camera or sony nex mirrorles and fullframe inbody image stabilization, less than 600 gram 24 megapixels not very expensive.
FF NEX with price as low as possible and no more than $3000. Megapixels count can be low as long as it’s not under 10, just gimme FF,
I want a second, cheap FF body to supplement my A99, so a low priced (say $1500) FF A95 please. It really doesn’t need many features. No need for GPS, articulated screen, HDMI, 14-bit raw, 2 memory slots. They can all be deleted for my 2nd body. 18MP sensor is plenty. I still reckon my 6MP SLR was better than my analog SLR.
I would like to see a camera like the NEX 5R, but with a form factor more like the NEX F3. Something with the flip lcd, dials/buttons, and speed of the 5R, but the size and pop-up flash of the NEX 6. The touchscreen would be nice too. I like the 5R, but I wish it were a little bigger. I think the 3 should be the smallest and the 5 should be bigger.
I also look forward to seeing them improve the AF technology. I bet in a few years they will figure out how to use the on sensor AF to its full potential and AF speeds will jump up even more. For now I will stick with the F3 until they have a higher end model I REALLY like. The NEX 6 is pretty sweet though.
Also, they need a good macro lens around 85mm or so. A sony one, that costs well under $1000. If they could make a nice 85mm f2.8 for under $500, that would be great.
No more any SLT. Please, do FF Nex with as low megapixels as possible. IMXO, 12-16 MP FF low noise matrix is enouth.
New firmware of A900/850.
FF nex no bigger than nex7
Sensor stabilized
Global electronic shutter (silent, no longer a failure point, prob less energy consumed)
Non bayer 24 mpix (ideally foveon style)
Phase and contrast focus
open lens control api for ease of 3rd pty lens support incl autofocus, aperature control
Even better EVF
2K-ish
But Sony strategy a mess – just getting decent lens range and we learn all are obsolete pending FF emount lenses…..
My ultimate sony camera… that i’m still waiting for… In turns of body design I want a competitor to Canon 1Dx and Nikon D4 but using a sony FF sensor… Sony Alpha A9
• Number of AF points and their sensor coverage to be like Nikon
• Full size pro body, complete weather and dust seals
• Large, big, bright, pentaprism 100% coverage OVF – not evf
• Fully articulated screen but with g-sensor for screen orientation detection.
• Low light capabilities like Nikon
• Wi-fi and GPS built in
• No pop up flash but instead built in wireless flash controller, with option to use own commander unit
• all the usual pro body and sony bells and whistles…
All this, and it MUST, ABSOLUTELY MUST be roughly the same price point as the competitors.
RX100 RX10 RX1 – fixed lens prime
RZ100 RZ10 RZ1 – fixed lens prime with EVF
36mp FF DSLR. Liveview, full remote control, inc remote AF, to enable in field tethered shooting controlled by Windows 8 tablet, using Helicon Remote et al.
Please new A77 firmware!
RX1 FF with tilt screen, OLED EVF, and fixed 24mm wide F1.8 zeiss lens. For landscape and portraits. <$3000
I want a new A75, A76 and nex8, nex9, also a new A88 and A95 all with the same crappy ISO noise as usual from Sony. 🙂
Sorry, I can’t contain my self on this one. This is so funny to see all of you asking things that NEVER gonna happen. Wow, so much creative people here, that’s why they call you “photographers”.
Sorry 😛
RX1 with E mount For 2500$, and apps, external mic in. headphone out, and 2 iso grid for flash, EVF, or mic.
Sony delivers better true to color images every time
A new NEX-7X update with:
– GPS
– Touch screen focusing
– Wifi
– USB charge
– The new hybrid hotshoe
– Phase detection focus
– In-body sensor stabilisation so you can use the Zeiss lenses for handheld video
NEX-5X with
– same as 5R but with the new hotshoe. Kill the propriety plug thing
NEX-3X become like a second camera for NEX7 owners, with:
– no articulating screen
– no hotshoe
– really compact
– bundled with 16-50mm power zoom
* Kill the NEX6 (an interim only), it’s a confusing lineup
* Update Minolta hotshoe accessories to new hotshoe (mic and small flash)
* And Sony, make some affordable f/1.4 OSS primes!!!
A few comments:
– Touch screen focusing
I don’t know if it’s really essential, since it’d be awkward to use with the EVF (settle on one — either have a great EVF and a lot of good external controls, or have a touch screen).
* Kill the NEX6 (an interim only), it’s a confusing lineup
No. Keep the NEX-6 line, especially if they bring back in-body stabilization — the NEX-6 would then be a good backup camera assuming it keeps ISS.
* And Sony, make some affordable f/1.4 OSS primes!!!
What would you rather have? In-body stabilization or OSS primes? I vote for the former.
Good point, if they give us an NEX-7X with in-body stabilisation, then no need for fast f/1.4 OSS primes, just fast f/1.4 primes.
Actually it makes sense:
– mid range budget gets you an NEX-3~5 and Sony lenses with OSS
– high range budget gets you an NEX-7 with in-body stabilisation and Zeiss lenses that have no OSS
I like this NEX-7X or NEX-8 (?) idea, mainly for the embedded GPS and Wifi (Tethering).
I’d love internal stabilization as long it doesn’t increase the size of the body by itself (or keep it as an external adapter). I also wish we could have Panorama, Filters Effects, etc… with RAW format.
a99 sensor on a900 body
LiveView, Wifi Tethering and simple video functions
@USD1,999
Or simply offer an factory upgrade for existing a900/a850 users to get new CMOS!
NEX 8: 24mp, Wicked Fast AF, Large Buffer (10fps upto 60jpgs @ full Resolution and 2 second buffer clearing.) Touch screen. Built-in GPS. Wireless Ratio Flash, 1/4000 sec native flash snyc. 1/8000 sec max shutter, Silent fully electronic shutter option. I could probably add a few dozen more items to this list…
I love that… (except maybe for the electronic shutter… I doubt it really works fine… but if does, why not?)
Yep, building a wireless flash transceiver into the NEX-7X body would be awesome.
+1
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1000
=)
To be short – if sony will not show any A88 type with FF sensor by Christmass I go back to Canon and buy 6D.
Its kind of a joke what Sony is doing to mid-range-amator cameras. Selling FF sensor to D600 – before have own camera in this price range?
@wojciech: Good for you! In honesty, you should go and buy the EOS 6D now, because there’s no point in waiting. It’s not like Sony will introduce any other FF SLT this year.
They already have their own camera in this range (if not price range) — A99. That’s all and they are not going to go beyond this
The A95 and A1 suggestion sound good, but mostly the A95. It would make sense to make another FF model to complete with the other brands. The lower resolution would also help in giving faster burst rates.
NEX-8, APS-C with 16-20 MP, TriNavi, very fast AF
And I really need a (zoom) lens with at least 300mm, better 400mm. Many, many people wants to replace their DSLR stuff with a mirrorless system. But at the moment they can only choose MFT (2 lenses with 300mm (FF 600mm)). There is no long lens for the NEX.
0. Settle on one NEX format. Whether it’s APS-c (24×16 mm), APS-h (hey, why not, it could be 28×16 mm or 30.2×16.7 mm), or FF — I don’t care, but I want them to settle on one format. The advantages to the users are obvious — you won’t need to worry if they suddenly decide to change the format after all, and your lenses are then obsolete.
1. APS-c NEX with sensor stabilization. Could be the next NEX-7 iteration. I really hope Sony brings AS back because it was a huge selling point. I don’t mind the extra bulk, even if it means that the compact NEX cameras don’t get the in-body stabilizer.
2. USB 3.0 with charging. Allow at least 1 Gbps transfer speeds (if 5 Gbps is impossible).
3. Full support of wireless flash, including ration flash.
4. Sensor-based ‘OTF-like’ flash (flash measurement during exposure, like with film). If not in NEX cameras, then in SLT (how hard could it be to include flash sensors among the AF points?). If it brings back support for old Minolta flash units (even if only in wireless mode), I’ll buy two!
5. Fast APS-c zoom lenses for NEX. I’m thinking of 15/16-60/70 f/2 or f/2.8, 50-150/200 f/2.8. The standard range should be easier to make in E-mount than in A-mount given shorter registration distance. If Sony brings back AS, the standard zoom could even be unstabilized itself (another selling point for a prosumer/pro NEX body).
6. Create a NEX to Vectis adapter — I know there aren’t that many V lenses out there, let alone good lenses, but at least four would be nice to use once again (17/3.5, 80-240, 400 reflex and 50/3.5 macro, maybe also 22-80). They are really cheap and the ones I mentioned are really compact and sweet optically. Plus, they are already weather-sealed.
+1 on the USB3.0 interface.
One more thing:
EYE TRACKING AF
How do I imagine it would work? In the EVF, there would be a sensor that senses your eye position. When viewing the scene, it shows what you are looking at (another custom option — brightening the particular area, showing a dot, or not showing anything), and when you press a custom button, a dedicated EYE-FOCUS button, shutter halfway down, or it tracks focus all the time that you are looking at the screen (another custom option).
Of course, it would likely not work with glasses (wide diopter adjustment required) and it would need calibration — simple, look at the EVF, track the dot that appears on the screen, or a dot appears in one corner, look at it, press the button, dot moves to other corners, then to the center, follow it and press the button along the way.
I know Canon already implemented it in EOS-50E years ago, and hopefully the patents on it are already expired. What it means is that the tech is trivial to implement and would fit the EVF philosophy well — touch screens (for AF point control) are awkward to use when looking through the EVF.
Sony A1 SLT with 36 MPX
How about a nice “photographer” oriented FF dSLR? WITH AN OVF! My A900 OVF is hard to beat (and note, I have a NEX-7). The EVF is just not the same. Also, many people don’t need all the video features.
More Nex Stuff!
But NOT more cameras!!! (Maybe just updates with Phase AF)
A new LA-EA Adapter for Nex6/Nex5R that uses the Phase AF function of the cameras, without the mirror! So I can finaly use my G Lenses on a Nex and don’t have to use those SLT Technology!!! (My A580 is getting old/don’t supported anymore!!! And I want to replace my A55!)
A small and I mean SMALL flash that suits the Nex6/7 with more power than the built in for indirect lighting!
Of course: Lenses, Lenses, Lenses……!!!!!!
But NOT as big (or bigger) as A-Mount!!!
G Lenses/Zoom Lenses (50-150/70-300/70-400/150-300/150-400) Maybe Power-Zooms if IQ is good…
Standard Zoom Lens with at least F3,5…
Fixed Lenses: over 50mm! Normal+Macro!
Last but not least:
Better IQ and ISO Performance!
Finetune JPG Engines and Firmware and stuff!!
So more Manpower for the “Software” before developing new hardware/cameras every few months….
Just my opinion! 😉
FF SLR! A900 body with actual sensor and lower noise.
The A77 is really a pain when working under bright sunlight conditions. After looking at the bright landscape the view in the EVF is like looking in a dark hole. After the eye has accomodatetd to the dark situation in the EVF it gets blinded when again looking into bright reallity. This is unacceptible and thus my next camera will be a Nikon or even a Canon if Sony still sticks to this cheap SLT stuff!
Karl
RX10 APS-C 16-20MP, with EVF, IBIS, flash, tilting screen, 16-80 f2.8-3.5 zeiss, good macro, bigger body with better hold like RX1 and RX100, price 999-
NEX(t) 😉
Nex 7n,r…x with phase detection on sensor, wifi, aplications and better iso results.
or
A square sensor 23,5×23,5 (4912×4912) 24 mpx look like nex7 with phase detection on sensor, wifi, aplications.
In both cases water(dust)proof!
FF NEX with
– best dynamic range and high ISO performance
– 16 Mpix is sufficient
– bigger screen (3:2)
– faster AF
– existing E-Mount lenses useable in crop mode
SONY needs to make a continuation of the A850/900. A FF still photographers camera with optical viewfinder, and no video. The only improvements needed are a better sensor with lower noise. better dynamic range and faster frame rate. Resist the temptation to jamb it with gadgets and effect just keep it pure and simple.
I want an updated version of the Alpha 77. (Say, the Alpha 79.)
– same general look and quality
– 24 megapixel APS-C sensor (but new sensor with better image quality)
– better high ISO ability
– dual phase detect AF (regular and on sensor), along with contrast detect for fine-tuning
– 5 axis image stabilization for sensor (with 5+ stops improvement)
– can take stills in movie mode without any interruption
– higher resolution EVF and back panel LCD
– touch-screen LCD
– updated menu look
Why would people want an e-mount FF? The lens lineup is poor. A-mount mirrorless would make more sense. I’d want:
Full Frame
Sized between nex and a57
Similar design to RX1 but larger with hybrid ovf/evf
A-mount or e-mount if they make the lens lineup better
Folks want an E mount FF because they don’t want an A mount mirrorless. A mount mirrorless gets you what Pentax made, a pointless bulky camera tied to a history/architecture the mirrorless customer wants nothing to do with.
If a person owns no E or A mount lenses, the lens issue is a non issue, everything has to start someplace. Build a FF E mount camera, start building lenses for it. There were no E mount lenses until the first E mount camera came out.
If you are going to stick to A mount, just keep it an SLR/SLT, going mirrorless in the mount would have zero purpose.
I would love RX-1 as a NEX FF with Zeiss 35 f2 lens as a kit @ $2000.
But, what I’m really waiting for is the a65 successor. Lower the pixel count to 16 or 18MP from 24 and increase the ISO to 102000. Increase the OLED viewfinder pixel count.
Also, the RX-1 is such an interesting deal. No fixed mirror like a99, so ISO performance should 20% better. Also, it’s the same price as the a99, but comes with what would be a $1300 lens. Sell the RX-1 body for $1500!?
– lens below 35mm with OSS, wide open / won’t spend 1000 for 24mm zeiss
– hate focusring multi turnarounds to go through the whole focusrange. (movie SEL50F18)
– higher movie quality, no just line skipping. (today res is far away from FullHD)
– i agree … weather sealed! … protection
– silent mode and please reduce mech shutter noise
– one more second in burst mode or higher continous. (new modes with silent shutter)
– app sdk with full access to all controls
– why not using USB for remote control, viewfinder, storage, StopMotion, advanced studiotec’s, webcam, pstation ext,…. ???
in my op the nex could b a bit bigger or deeper for cooling or other features.
😉
RX1 ok it’s very special .. what’s “nex ed”.. a ultra low light highspeed movie clipper / NEX with Exmor-Super-35-mm-CMOS from FS700? OK! Still Shots at just 8MP but 8 good ones could b better than 16 bad ones. 😉
RX2, Mirrorless, FF, 36 MP, Universal mount for interchangeable adapters to Leica, Zeiss and autofocus Nikon lenses, HDR, GPS, Tilting EVF with exposure preview, focus steering and focus highlight.
A95 SLT
A1 without mirror. Should read AF from sensor reflections.
A1 without video but perfected for photo. No compromises. Leave this to Leica.
More professional lenses. 20, 35, 16-24, 100 macro etc. All with SSM. Update all other primes (CZ 85, CZ 135 etc.) with SSM. (They must have been sleeping. How do they want to sell an Alpha 99 without adequate lens line-up to professionals? An incrementally better 300 is not enough.)
RX10, 5x zoom range, 16-20 MB, high ISO, high constant aperture
NEX7x with new hotshoe, GPS
CZ should make NEX tele prime
Actually I don’t want to see any more new models coming, but instead new firmware on its entire lineup of cameras (Alpha, Nex, Cybershot etc.) which will enable PAL/NTSC video selection — not just on the a99.
World Cam spec on the VG30 and 900 should be next……
NEX 9, FULL FRAME, WITH PANCAKE LENS, BUILT IN FLASH.
A NEX-7 FW
A FF NEX with a better EVF, left tri-navi as mode dial, a better grip(that won’t peel) with more room between grip and mount.
Lenses! We have as many NEX bodies (counting the video cameras) as we do lenses… How about some more primes, a G-series or Zeiss standard zoom and a long lens or two for NEX.
Expect an SLT with improved noise performance at higher ISO (say above 800), good for low light photography as well. The major limitation of SLT series (55, 57, 65 and 77) is it high nosie contribution above 800 ISO. Even many mid-level SLRs priced around $1000 give better noise performance, for example nikon d7000. If sony takes care of this and upgrade atleast a77 at moderate price ($1000-1500/body) it will be something great.
Make a break from the pack and take a page from auto companies. Release a new version of 65 and 77 with low noise sensor and focus limiting, then provide some small firmware upgrades for owners of the earlier models such as customer lens fine tuning on 65, focus limiting on both, etc. A bone to current owners while minimizing investment in the next models.
Or, for a real twist,introduce a body architecture that allows sensor/buffer/firmware upgrades. The margins would be out of this world! I’ll bet you’d find most owners would gladly drop $500 for the newest sensor/buffer/firmware every few years, maybe even annually. I’ll bet 65 & 77 users would pay much more than that for the 99’s quieter sensor, hybrid focus system and in camera focus limiting.
NEX-9A (A for Adventure)
FF 20-40MP
GPS (GPS needs to be standard in all models, no debate)
Built for travel/outdoors. Thus light, durable, sealed.
No EVF, No Moving Screen
Grip on both sides of mount
As many manual controls (knobs/buttons) as fit.
Also built new lens.
F4 16-24 Tilt Shift. Full AF, Power Shift/Tilt/Zoom controlled by controls in grips of camera.
RX1, 24MP, FF, 50mm f1.0, don’t mind the bulk, as long as it is smaller than a Rebel. No 50mm? Get a 40mm f1.4 in there. Everybody wants a Noctilux system without paying close to $10,000 for body+lens.
An RX Megazoom, HX-style high magnification zoom, RX100 sensor. A travel/nature enthusiast dream come true: HX200 style body, RX100 sensor, 24-200 constant aperture f2.8. Sony, you have to up your game in this segment now that Panasonic has a constant aperture megazoom.
+1 this would be totally insane. Sony’s aggressive bets have been paying off.
“RX1, 24MP, FF, 50mm f1.0, don’t mind the bulk, as long as it is smaller than a Rebel. No 50mm? Get a 40mm f1.4 in there. Everybody wants a Noctilux system without paying close to $10,000 for body+lens.”
Sony is a little too slow in the mirrorless segment compared to the loftier aspirations of Panasonic & Olympus. With EOS-M, you can see Canon is not interested in winning this segment. Nikon is getting a 3rd party sensor manufacturer, once they get out of Sony’s shadow, Nikon will be a force to be reckoned with. Their Nikon 1 system is a much promising line up than Canon or even Olympus in their 43’s early days.
Canon has so much confidence in their pro sports market that all this mirrorless excitement does not stir the Sleeping Giant. BUt Sony needs to improve their lens line-up with better offering than a slow zoom lenses and a lackluster 35mm f1.8…?
RX10, 24-85 f2.8 constant aperture fixed zoom, video mode with amazing bit rate, 240 fps in lower resolution
+1
A NEX-7x with GPS, Weather sealing, better noise performance in low light and phase detection on the sensor. A decent upgrade to the Firmware. Touch screen support. USB Charging.
I just wish the RX1 had a built in EVF or OVF… Seems so frustrating that they have something so perfect and compact and then I have to stick something on top of it and ruin all that potential.
Because of this… a FF NEX is what I’m waiting on… a 36MP NEX9 (hopefully a Fullframe NEX7 with new hotshoe… don’t like the NEX6 styling).
Sony A95 SLT with 18 MP FF sensor for $1800
First, I would really like to see a firmware update that would bring really useful exposure bracketing to mid level cameras like the A57,, along with restoring tethering, and activating auto ISO in Manual mode. Why is this so hard?
Next I would like to see a less expensive Full Frame camera, but without dumbing it down to the point of being unusable. Actually how about this. An SLT full frame camera, with the same operational characteristics as the NEX 6, with an 18-24 mix sensor, with wifi, apps , and GPS. All for about $1800?
Full frame Foveon like (3 layer) sensor camera – A mount, E mount or rangefinder with interchangeable lenses. 30 megapix equivalent
Actually, thinking it over a little more, what I really want is the A77 body and controls, with the 16 mpix sensor. The 24 is just overkill and not necessary, and has worse low light performance. So why not put your best sensor in your best body? (I still think that at least good AE Bracketing (for REAL HDR instead of the finalized JPEG they provide and you are supposed to feel fine with). So, for me, and A75, which is the A77 with the 16mpix sensor. If they want to throw in WIFI and camera apps in all future camera, including SLTs, that’s a bonus. But give us serious professional control with the best sensor.
24MP FF NEX with “SSS”
simply OVF men!
This may sound very shallow but for pro series nex in future can we have more different colour bodies? I go tons of silver lenses, looks like shit on a black body!!!
My interest is to use a Sony NEX as a UCAM (Universal Camera) that works with my Leica-M, Leica-R, Nikkor and Zeiss lenses, as well as a few Sony lenses when I feel like using autofocus.
So from my perspective, I would like a new NEX body with the following. For a camera like this, with all these features, I would pay up to US$3,500.
Must have:
01. Similar package as NEX-7, a little bigger and heavier body is OK.
02. E mount, so I can use all my Novoflex adapters
03. Full-frame sensor – absolutely must.
04. No AA filter – the D800E sensor would be very nice!
05. 24 or 36MP resolution
06. Standard flash hot shoe
07. Stronger body to handle heavier lenses (e.g. Leica Noctilux), flash, etc.
Nice to have:
08. Faster processor and more buffer (higher frame rate, faster AF)
09. Larger LCD screen with retina display
10. Built-in GPS
11. Built-in WiFi
12. Bigger battery or a vertical grip option
Cheers.
Two other items added to my list above:
Must have:
13. List of non-Sony lenses:
It is important to be able to create a list of non-Sony lenses, and select the lens I have currently mounted on the camera. For all these images, the camera should write the lens information into the EXIF file. (Of course, the camera would not know the exact f-stop used.)
It would be nice if Sony provided a table-like user interface to specify the maker of the lens, model, focal length or zoom range and max aperture.
For example:
Leica, Summilux-M ASPH FLE, 35mm, f/1.4
Carl Zeiss, Jena Biotar, 75mm, f/1.4
Leica, Vario Elmarit-R, 28-90mm, f/2.8-4.5
Nikon, NOCT Nikkor, 58mm, f/1.2
etc.
Nice to have:
14. Some minimal weather proofing for dust and moisture.
Cheers,
Roy
RX10 APS-C fixed lenscamera
Very simple, new a77 firmware including tethering and better high ISO performance.
Everyone gets caught up in the next “new and best thing,” while existing customers/owners get left behind. The a77 is my fifth Sony camera, so I’m a loyal customer, but it may be my last if Sony disregards the zillion calls for an update.
RX10 APS-C fixed lens camera, .
This will be my dream camera until FF-style versatile one is coming. But the most important aspect is AF performance. If it’s not good, it’s useless for me. I understand this is completely difficult for contrast AF on DSLR-grade sensors but.. anyway I need good AF performance.
I think the biggest advantage of compacts is their size. Smaller size makes snap shots easier, whilst the poor AF performance makes snap shots almost impossible! I’ve been tired of bad AF performances by big-sensored compacts like Sigma DP and Fuji X100.
Interestingly, most of revealed sample shots from RX1 are taken from “stabilised” objects. I wish this is just a coincidence.
A SONY DSLT !!! SONY A95 $1800 FF !!!! 😀 yeah to fight with D600 and 6D 😀
Sony nex 9, FF, 36 megapixels, tilting screen, two memory card slots, better in low light conditions, $2500-$2700
1. RX100 body with fixed ultra wide zoom 16-35mm f4 with better stabilization than current models, extend native ISO to 25,600 standard. For landscape, travel photography, group shots, architectural journalism, shooting low light inside cathedral, heh! $1300
2. A Megazoom, 25-400mm but with at least f4 at the telephoto end. Use that 1″ sensor currently housed in RX100, use a larger body like RX1 to house that massive 400mm f4 lens (we don’t mind it sticking out), collapsible zoom type to minimize “bulging barrell syndrome”, better AF than most compacts, CLOSE FOCUSING DISTANCE AT ALL FOCAL LENGTH. For wildlife, birding, nature, hiking, macro, your kids soccer matches. $1700
3. Update the already fantastic RX100 with faster zoom lens with lower magnification, 24-50mm but faster aperture, f1.8-2.8. CLOSE FOCUSING DISTANCE AT ALL FOCAL LENGTH SONY !!! For low light indoor photography at parties, dinners, functions, group shots under low light, night shooting, indoor events, close up object shots, macro, fast operation, fast start-up for quick snaps of the highest quality. $800
THE RX LINE DOES NOT NEED TO BE POCKETABLE, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE MORE COMPACT THAN REBEL, D300S, NEX.
DSC-RX10 APS-C Fixed Lens camera (35mm equivalent, F2.0 or faster) for ~$1,000.
As someone looking to get into more serious photography, but not seeing myself needing/wanting a full blown DSLT/R or ILC camera with good lenses yet, I was immediately drawn to the RX1. I want a lens and body combo that is purposed designed for what I’ll be doing most of all, which is street and indoor photography or people and places in all types of light (especially low light). However for the price I’m not sure I can justify the cost. That said, the other main driver for fixed lens is to drive the size down to smaller than a NEX and based on the RX1 results they could simply fit an APS-C sensor into the RX1 body for a reduced price point and I’d be pleased.
RX100 new Firmware!!!!!!!!!