Image courtesy: 3Dkraft
3Dkraft (Click here) tested the new HyperPrime CINE 35mm T0.95 prototype lens on the NEX-7 and on the first Full Frame VG900. This Cine lens for E-mount should arrive in 2013. The tester published some image samples an the results are promising. It’s interesting to see that lens on the VG900. Of course there is a lot of vignetting to see. I hope Sony and other third party lens manufacturer are thinking on making native FF E-mount lenses!
List to current SLRmagic lenses for NEX:
[shoplink 11187 ebay]SLR Magic 35mm f/1.7 MC (here on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 11186 ebay]SLR Magic Toy Lens 28mm Bokehmorphic lens (here on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 11185 ebay]SLR Magic HyperPrime 50mm f/0.95 (here on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 11186 ebay]SLR Magic 28mm f/2.8 lens (here on eBay)[/shoplink].
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There is a 50mm Cine lens as well , has it been announced at Photokina or they pulled it out?
The HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 (and also a rangefinder coupled LM version) is available since several months already. You can find a review here:
http://www.3d-kraft.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=116:about-the-limit-slr-magic-hyperprime-cine-50mm-t095&catid=40:camerasandlenses&Itemid=2
No mention of price. Maybe around £1k-1.3k?
Currently it is announced for US$ 1249.
not that much: 1250 usd
Is this SLR Magic lens shown just a Mitakon rebadge that you reported on a little while back?
http://matthewdurrphotography.com
It is a completely different construction than the Mitakon 35/0.95.
Many thanks, and interesting it almost covers full-frame, too. Thought about doing a comparison between those two lenses sometime, as the Mitakon I think sells for around the $600 mark?
http://matthewdurrphotography.com
The Mitakon is a different lens in both optically and mechanically
Thanks Andrew, I hope you all can get the customer hub-bub about the loose focus rings on the 50mm T.95 straightened out before this ships. Many are bummed so far about the apparent lack of support. :-/
http://matthewdurrphotography.com
Please stop reading the rumors. There was 200% support to that customer in particular. I did not want to mention but the rumors have changed so much I had to. He had a loose ring issue with the HyperPrime and a stuck ring issue with his 35mm Summicron during the same period. After using the lens for 2 months, there was an issue that we said we can fix. He did not want to ship it back despite his 3 yr service on LM lens, and said he will have it serviced in Hong Kong to save the trouble of shipping. I offered 2 days service when he was in Hong Kong but he did not want that. I offered 24hrs service by arranging OT service from our lens makers and he said it is still not acceptable and only wanted money back as he wanted money to buy the 50mm Summilux in Hong Kong. His 35mm Summicron had issues but he did not ask for his money back and he felt that it was no issue as only one of the screws got stuck due to a poor lens technician’s job -according to him. I have lenses repaired at Leica too as I have Leica lenses for personal use as well and it is not possible to offer 1 day service nor is it possible to ask for an estimated repair completion date. I am also responsible of the shipping fees to ship the Noctilux that needs maintenance back to Solms from the Hong Kong Leica Service centre.
Another sample is for Photokina we bought a Zacuto EVF Pro at Foto Lambertine. The monitor did not work as it keeps going on and off. What ended happening is the item was a brand new item but had been previously returned by another customer as parts inside were installed already by another user. The sales at Foto Lambertine determined the issue to be a damaged cable. I had to go back three times and by contacting their distributor they gave me a new cable that works. I am a bit upset to receive a brand new product that had been previously used (this would never happen in Hong Kong. Some think the return policy in Hong Kong is not friendly but at the same time you NEVER need to buy a previously used item). However, at the end the problem was resolved and I will not blame a product to be bad and have many issues due to a one off issue that can be solved from service.
The best service any company can provide is warranty service in case of problems. There is nothing any company can do if there is warranty service and the customer only wants to complain in all forums there is an issue and he does not want to have it repaired. Do you agree?
That guy must have a buyer remorse.
I tried googling / sony site , but how many dynamic range stops does the vg-900 have?
SONY, Give me a A99 for still photography
You mispelled VG900 😉
It’s fascinating to see these lenses and their image circles, using a full frame with the vg900.
Looks like a very nice lens as well. Short flange clearly opens opportunities to lens designers and f=0.9 (t=.95) is really fast. I hope they sell a bunch.
Our 35mm 0.95 lens covers for the FF when used on some scenes were the center frame is dark allowing for a longer exposure time. The lens was originally designed as a FF lens but the light falloff towards the sides were too strong for this wide so we called it an APS-C lens.
f/1.2 or 1.4 design would resolve the light falloff issue but we insisted to make this 35mm a 0.95 lens.
Andrew
I am really excited about this lens. I was wonder when you think it will be released and also how you think it will stack up against the nokton 50mm 1.1? If you could send me and email response i would be greatful.
“I hope Sony and other third party lens manufacturer are thinking on making native FF E-mount lenses!”
On Photokina, a Zeiss engineer told me that FF E-mounts would be larger than ordinary ones. I asked about the small FF Leica lenses but he said that with them, you always have colour errors in the corners, even with microlenses. Plus you need larger focal lengths for FF.
Therefore, I hope that there’ll be always APS-C NEXes around, even when FF becomes *very* cheap. I bought my NEX to have a *small* system after all. I really don’t understand the FF hype. The lower DOF is negligible and the S/N ratio advantage is a myth. So what’s the point?
We tried FF SLR Magic HyperPrime CINE 50mm T0.95 with the VG900 fullframe mode and the results are amazing. Very shallow dof, no color shift, no vignetting, no focus shift.
Hey Andrew. Any chance someone there can try some m-mount wides. eg something like a Leica 35 asph, or biogon 35/2 and check corners?
Unfortunately we did not design any M mount wide so did not get the chance to check. Im actually Andrew from SLR Magic. The quality of the FF Sony VG900 is amazing. I did ask about it and they said the sensor has microlenses to address the observations from the 7.
Ok, thanks for the info. I hope you get to sell a bunch of those lenses – they look great.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hhackbarth/8012602395/sizes/l/ looks like heavy vignetting.
That’s the 35 Hyperprime which is aps-c. Not the mentioned SLR Magic 50mm.
The post is a little misleading. The photo shown was our APS-C 35mm lens on the VG900 in Full Frame mode. in APS C mode there is no vignetting. How can I post images here?
Andrew, just post a link leading to an external site with your images
APS-C lenses will work perfectly fine on full-frame NEX, exactly the same way they already do on the vg900 (using the centre crop of the sensor). What full-frame provides is additional options. For A-mount, 3rd party (like this lens manufacturer), and the best small lenses available (lecia m, zeiss, voigt). Choice is a good thing to offer the consumer, and some are prepared to pay a premium.
But I can use lecia m, zeiss, voigt, etc also with a APS-C sensor. I just need another focal length.
The difference is that the lens is designed to throw light at a fullframe image circle. You are effectively discarding over 50% of the light, and a lot of DOF, and using the lens outside its design parameters. That said using those lenses on NEX APS-C is what many of us already do.
No, if all parameters are held constant — DOF, angle of view, shutter speed, object distance — the aperture is also constant. Therefore, you have the same number of photons on the sensor. In one case on an APS-C area and in the other case on a FF area.
The automatic APS-C mode is amazing in a way that it works with manual primes on adapters without the need for electronic contacts.
The 35mm 0.95 was originally designed for the M camera. However, when the design was complete it can fit inside of an M mount but the rear element is too large for an M camera. The lens has exceptional quality in the APS-H portion (sorry will not fit inside M8 either as M8 is even more narrow inside than the M9) so it will be a great lens for sensors of Super35/APS-C or smaller and will have practically no visible vignetting. We had a lot of request the lens should have a versitile M mount so that is what we did.
Thank you Andrew, I was thinking of getting the CV 35/1.2, but this lens might just be the ticket. I wish you guys could have designed a bit larger to fully cover FF.
The lens is a FF but the light falloff to the edges makes it only usable for extremely low lit scenes so we do not recommend it for FF use. To fill the frame without light falloff for FF means a rear lens element larger than the m mount and we did not want to do that. It is the same reason why there are not a lot of lenses faster than f1.4 for M42 bayonette. The most compatitable mount usually have some sort of design restrictions and we need to weighout the pros and cons for each design decision. If you do not plan to be filming with the FF sensor it should not matter. I am sure you have other mirrorless lenses before and did not worry it didnt cover the FF sensor.
Actually, I’m planning to use it for stills only. Would you consider to make the E-mount version only since this lens can’t be mounted on a Leica M camera anyway? I would imagine with a bigger throat size, you can make a full frame one. I’m leaning toward this lens because it’s actually sharper than the CV at WO. With video, most would not care that much about the sharpness. And if what you said is true about the VG900 microlenses, then I think you would have a big hit with this. From the sample I see here, this is sharper than the Mitakon.
If you had asked me a few months ago I would have liked Sony’s version of a D4, but on the other hand, I must admit that I can see some advantages in being able to take the vertical grip off at places where the camera should be less catchy so as poor areas.
I therefore hope that they will continue to improve the ISO, more fps and even more leightweight, a LAN connection and light in the buttons. A camera which takes XQD cards. It is a mystery to me that A99 does not take this card when sony has helped to develop it.
But the thing I really miss is:
100mm macro lens in G or Carl Zeiss quality!!!!
400mm F2,8 G
600mm F4,0 G
I’m excited to see what equipment they will show with the new multi hot shoe! 🙂
I wonder how it is that you can afford to get a 400mm and 600mm lens ( I imagine no less than $30,000 total), and you’re still shooting with Sony only. You can easily afford a second system to access to those two lenses.
Buy the way, it could be cool if its possible to make a WL connection to a computer with the new hot shoe, like Nikons WT-4!! 😀