C. Garrarad had a small talk with Sony and wrote on Alphamountworld: “it is confirmed that they are working on a new firmware update for the new cameras announced with the 24mp sensor. We didn’t get into specifics but there will DEFINITELY be a new firmware version for them to address issues.“.
And if we are really “lucky” than the new firmware (version 1.03) should be out…TOMORROW! This according to a source of mobile01.
The new firmware will hopefully fix all issues we talked about in these days. As you know the problems was that the 1.02 firmware wasn’t updated for the new BIONZ processor which is used for the production camera. The pre production camera had a slightly different processor.
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I pray to the SLT, Pellicle Mirror, Poor-High-ISO performance, and one-third-less-stops gods that it is true.
Nice. It would be to see a full A77 review with Adobes ACR 6.5 and Lightroom 3.5
Any Carl Zeiss lens news? SR1?
Working on it. Zeiss lens release have been delayed for a couple of months. But there should be a new lens announcement within the next 2-3 months!
Thanks! Any lens news is good news. 🙂
I hope it’s the CZ 50mmF1.2 or a new 35mm.
XD
A new 35mm or faster 24mm is always appreciated.
Don’t we have already a fantastic CZ 24/2? 🙂
Yes we do, but Nikon and Canon have 1.4 versions
And our 35 1.4 is very “meh” too
Oh… very nice. So we’ll end up with something more than one lens per year. Me -> happy! 🙂
Assuming it hits the streets before the 31st of December.
my question is… “a” or “e”?
A
Just some activity that shows that somebody at Sony does still care about the A-mount would be nice.
i really hope this FW rumour is firstly true, and secondly, it makes a bloody difference! Although, I fear this is a quick fix for the malfunctioning cameras, rather than a polish of the high ISO performance. I think Sony are better to get the product fully functional so they can release it worldwide before they address the ISO performance.
The A700 got a nice ISO performance boost in FW 4.0, so theres a long way to go yet 🙂
Ahhh!!! Finally I can do away with RAW Therapy. Can’t wait to download Lightroom 3.5… Wonder how the high ISO images will look like now?
5N is also supported by Adobe updates!!
REALLY?
yes…you can get that info from details of Adobe update.
Any news on the NEX-5N “click” video noise?
About the 5N clicking noise. If you live in the U.S., Sony will make an “improvement” on the camera.
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/news-item.pl?news_id=439&mdl=NEX5N
They actually send you a FedEx next day air mailer (at no charge) and you ship out the camera body. They promise a fix time of five to seven business days. We’ll see how this works – my 5N is on its way to Laredo.
Update us to suppress hate in the threads.
True, but we have not heard anything from Sony Europe.
I was also waiting news from Andrea.
He got the NEX-5N and I presume he took videos with it.
Does it “Click”?
New rumor: Lightroom 6.5 is out!!!!!
O M G !!! give you LIKE !!
I have a NEX-7 on order, and a 35mm f2 Zeiss Biogon to put on it when it arrives. Do we know if there will be firmware changes for that camera. Very curious as to why there are hardly any RAW images for the Nex-7 anywhere?
ADMIN, Where is the 500mm lens gone????
Coming with the next FF camera.
eta june 2012 ?
Yeah, I think they’re focusing on the A77/NEX7 releases. I’m sure the lens went through (not mass) production, just a lot of polishing and quality testing.
Update for Camera Raw, support ARW files A77. I already checked some RAW images.
Noise at ISO800/1600 ? Looks fine to me and you won’t notice it when viewing till 50/60%, even without adobe’s noise reduction. If you crop like crazy and at 100%, little luminance noise reduction and gone is the noise.
They are doing some quite interesting comparisons of the updated ACR results over at DPReview:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&message=39469520
I would buy the A77 regardless but the proper ACR really gave an improvement which was nice to see. Now I wan’t that A77!
Read that thread at DPR forum and spot this line:
“Thank you for posting updated RAW-jpeg converted files. It’s like night & day difference compare to all the previous conversions. Now I feel much better about A77’s IQ, and almost forgive the small buffer, ready to buy one. Sony should really thank Adobe for saving their butt…”
Wow seriously, that dude didn’t know what a good RAW converter is capable of? I’m seriously disappointed with people that whine as loud as crying babies but have no photography knowledge or whatsoever.
Sorry to rant here, I’m an anti-DPR guy so I don’t feel like posting there.
So much hate. Why must Sony thank Adobe?
He’s the one who has to thank Adobe to be able to make a fuss about the RAW files, otherwise he can’t even make a fuss until Sony’s raw converter is out.
surprised that people still rely on Adobe when there so many more active companies out there doing a better job.
I was poking around on there and found this guys properly converting and comparing the a55, a77, D7000 and a580. They all pretty much look the same.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&message=39470648
the thread on DPreview seems A LOT more positive now, maybe the Nikon camp haven’t seen it yet. I guess I should really look into using RAW now 🙂
Check iso 1600 on the adobe soft….. Noise correction 0 and there is no colour noise. A bit more noisy than Nikon D7000, byt there are mode detail in it.
Why are people comparing a 24MP sensor to the 16MP sensor? Of course the 16 will have less noise…
Cos these people are trying to find faults by looking at pixel level and not looking at the great photos A77 can produce at “real world” distance.
Its pixel peepers that are making all the noises now.
People nowadays are not taking good photos and enjoy them, rather they are more interested in wanting to see how that fine speckle of dust looks on Your face.
Hahaha I know so true it is… As if the Pixel Peepers damn Sony for not creating a tool worthy of their talents… suppressing them until the perfect camera is created, thereby allowing them to finally take a real photograph worthy of making an actual print that someone “might” see beyond a flickr account LOL.
+1
You MUST pick on every single thing Canikon competitors try to throw at the market, Sony in particular, because they’re gaining too much name while by principle they suck. *sarcasm*
The information you have provided Andrea and the information I am reading in the commments is making me feel much better about the a77. I am in the camp that needs the High ISO to clean up good as I shoot night american football games at ISO 3200 or higher. I am using my a900 now as it cleans up better in lightroom than the a55.
Andrea, I had and idea. Why not ask for suggestions of new lenses that us users would like to see from Sony in the future. Then do a poll like you have done on the full frame cameras of the future. You could then provide the info to Sony and hopefully it will let them see what they should be putting resources into producing. Thanks!
Will the new firmware make Sony fanboys better photographers? I think not, haha
No but they have not had as many FW updates as canon fanboys on 7D’s or Nikons D7000. So maybe thats because they are already better photographers.
Please don’t waste other people’s time with pointless statements like this.
With new a77 firmware to arrive shortly AND today’s release off ACR 6.5 with support for the new cameras we will now learn if the a77 will live up to its promise of being a truly great camera and producing incredible images for the money.
From my point of view, it’s almost a re-launch of the product with production firmware and the third-party support to use RAW images.
I never shoot anything but RAW with my a850 and then process the image in PS, so for me knowing how well Sony does with .jpg is not worth my time and something I don’t care about at all.
It’s RAW that matters
It’s time to keep your fingers crossed and wish for good luck!
When looking at lots of the high ISO pics the JPEGS usually looked very comparable to or better than the APS-C competition but the RAW images were much worse. I think if the camera is capable of producing OK JPEGs then at some point the RAW conversion utilities should be able to do much better.
For the uninitiated, I’ve grabbed some RAWs from DPR and run them through ACR 6.5, and here are the results:
ISO6400: http://accessdesires.com/test-shots/test-6400.jpg
ISO3200: http://accessdesires.com/test-shots/test-3200.jpg
In ISO6400 comparison, I have the A77 and its immediate competitors, the D7000, D300s, 7D and K-5. The A77 shot does have more noise but just slightly. It’d be a far stretch to tell the difference between them if they’re all printed in the same size. Hardly disastrous result as the uneducated tend to think. Do take note that the age old 12MP sensor in the D300s holds off very well against newer counterparts. And guess what, it’s the ACR that takes credit.
In ISO3200 comparison, I pit the A77 against the D7000 and the 7D. Again, the A77 shows more noise, but hardly lacks any detail. Age old 14MP CCD from the A390 is thrown in for some good fun. This is considered by many as “unusable” above ISO800, and see how well it holds against modern CMOSes. Again, ACR takes credit.
If you’ve been processing enough photos, you’d have noticed that there was a huge jump in noise handling performance from ACR5 to ACR6. RAWs considered unusable in the past can easily have new lives by running through the new ACR6. And you’ve processed enough photos from different cameras, you’d have known that they all share the same noise characteristic at high ISO. The noise, the detail one sensor can have depends more on how you process and which converter you use, than the sensor itself.
Again, if you’ve shot and processed enough and experienced this, you can pretty much predict what to expect from new cameras / sensors and probably won’t crap out so much whiny junks like the past few weeks. The keyword here is to shoot/process more, not read. Yes, YOU, it’s YOU I’m talking about.
Check out this review of the a77 from DigitalRev, Kai actually dumps a bottle of water on it and although he dont like sony he somewhat says its a good camera
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1BI82nV9A