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5 minutes!
D800 listed for sale in prep, hope something good pops up
Hah!
check the fire admin 😉
Global shutter, <$2k AND 10 bit internal recording?
Awesome!
Just take my money!
omg. the Livestream player is always on autoplay. The moment the stream went live, all the 7 tabs with the live player that I had open started playing at once!!!
Thank goodness for Chrome having that little audio icon, or I never would have been able to close those tabs quickly enough!
smh at you LiveStream…
Holy! The echo, Mr. COO. The echo!
Ok they fixed it…
Wow. One person was clapping when Alec Shapiro took the stage…
Really, I used to be a sound engineer and the audio here is strictly armature level. Seriously no one check the audio prior to going live on the Web Feed. ECHO ECHO ECHO What What What LOL How Embracing.
and the video switcher >.<
and the camera work is soooooooooo bad.
Typos? How very armature of you… 😛
Deveron, don’t be a cunt.
The correct response would was really to be. Go out there and be very armature will you?
Holy crarp. I cant hear shit because of the horrible echo. 🙁
One thing is for sure: with the triple attack of A7, A7r and A7s, Sony will rule and dominate the system camera market. Canon, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji, Pentax and Samsung have already lost a tremendous amount of sales to Sony, and this will be the final nail in their coffee. Expect at least 85% market share for Sony by the end of the year.
Depends on the stores. I can’t get Sony in one of the local camera stores because they stopped carrying their systems. According to the owner their customer service was bad and it was upsetting their customers so they made a decision to stop carrying Sony so they wouldn’t be upsetting and losing customers in the future when Sony Service let them down.
reading scripts is getting weird looking o.O
*Finger mentally pressed against the ‘Cancel order’ button for the GH4*
Good Greif Phil your drawing attention away from the camera with that sock stuffed down your pants :-O, get a grip man this is not about you and how many babes you can snag if Vegas 😛
Hate how it keeps skipping, wtf? It’d be funny if it wasn’t so damn annoying >:
Right? And the resolution. I’ve got a great internet connection. What is the excuse for such low resolution?
Uh education, uh corporate, uh, uh, uh.
Oh wow.
“Bringing video from 1200 and 29 miles away from Tulsa Oklahoma with latency of less than a field.”
-Sony Presenter
Less than a *field* you say? Now that is definitely a measure of performance. 😛
Everything’s so awkward, been meaning to watch a comedy today, so think I’m getting my fix 😛
lmao, they should’ve practiced a bit more, but hats off to these two guys, they seem like they know what they’re doing, unlike Alec…
Dunno, I’m in the same boat. So ironic that they’re talking about the future in 4k but we can’t even watch it in 432p. o.0
Seems smooth on my end, other than it stop completely about every 10 min.. and I have to restart.
Dang loose nut behind my keyboard keeps making me miss keys, sorry I sound like i’m challenged, oh well … I try 🙂
Mine has a tendency to skip back about 3 minutes every 5 mins. or so …
If you are doing full screen, you may try running it without full screen. Other than that probably not much you can do if its a data bottle neck someplace prior to getting to your router.
Yeah I’ve gone back to “shrink” mode, and it’s been alright for a few minutes, fingers crossed it keeps up…
Did they say anything about A7s in the livestream yet?
Nope, talking on an on about at the F55-65 series cameras and now they’re talking about projectors…
Nope. Are you on a mobile device?
Won’t be announced today after all.
i cannot watch ….i am in china….
This feels like a high school project video…sooo awkward…
I agree. What kind of twat came up with this?
And there was much rejoicing. ….yay…
ISO goes to 400K ! like D4s…strangely they have not mentioned yet the A7s
I await with patience the announcement of Sony A7S, long live the A7S and low GH4
False alarm …. no A7s …
You sure? Sure you aren’t trolling?
Just making sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM
This was far more informative and entertaining! Thanks!
Very welcome 😀
You can never be sure …
When you think quality video, you almost always think Wells Fargo.
NOT!
They said at the beginning of the show that they would have an announcement at the end.
It mean one hour later ?
replying to yourself or is there some glitch in the comments section?
A7s is still not showing up…
Dat echo doe
It’s stopped working 🙁
I FEEL LIKE I’M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!
I’m drinking wine right now. Makes the show much more entertaining.
Need to get myself some too lmao
This live stream game me tumors.
The livestream killed me, brb have to haunt Alec…
I just don’t see how they can be talking about high end video products and production with such a poor video cast. Should they not have spent a lot of time/money to make this very, very smooth?
I’m guessing that the streaming solution is provided by the venue or something.. But i agree. Horrible stream.
The social media, the website, the internets, the yolos, the swags. Other stuffs and things.
XD
FUTURE PROOF TIME
Nothing is more boring than listening to COO’s and VP’s.
77min to go….
I like the guy saying “We are really cutting edge, like super cutting edge” – while holding Bob Barker’s wired, microphone from vintage Price is Right
Hah!
The IRONY is making me cackle like a madman
video keeps lagging or its me -_-
it is..
Actually it’s all your fault. If you weren’t watching, the rest of us would have had a 4k 120fps stream.
STOP HOGGING THE BANDWIDTH!!!
Live stream from Sony has issues. Not a great way to show how good they are 🙂
worst livestream ever
completely agree
Mine cuts out and says initializing live stream
Congratulations to the Sound Engineers, they did quickly fix the echo… we’ll blame prior problems on the Convention Center not letting them get in to do their job at a reasonable time and get it checked out properly prior to going live :-D. Dang now I lost the whole feed !!! What what what!
This reminds me of internet streaming circa 1992
When you take a fs55 and connect it to an IP 4k then you get oral diareea, bla di bla di bla, What a bummer it is this press presentation all jargon. Booh And exitement all over the place when you talk to the sony executives. bla di bla di bla
it’s like they don’t give a &^%*^ about us. I understand we are a tiny part of their revenue.
#DatIntroMusic
So far, the intro music has been my favorite part. 🙂
#initializinglivestream4ever
still better then the last sony presentation, where the japanese Cos could not spoke english very well
The boredom factor is off the hook. Some propaganda is fine but we are now bordering on the absurd!
They should go back and watch some Steve Jobs video to learn how this is done while keeping the audience engaged rather than wanting them to commit suicide.
Zzzzzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Zzzzzzzzzzzz
This guy should’ve stuck to the Sopranos…
Interesting technology though.
Yes, let’s archive Golf footage, lmao.
By the time they get to the A7s there wont be enough of my brain left for me to care.
By the time they get to the a7s, 8k is gonna be the norm
This is one of the most boring announcement shows I have ever seen. Hopefully A7s will be shown eventually, though I will probably be asleep by then.
Huh, nothing has ever touched the CD or DVD disks, is this supposed to be shocking?
Sounds like they shoved some left-over blu ray disks in a box and sold it off as expensive archival media.
Oh wait…
#acronymsontopofacronymsontopo…
Please, Sony, at least assign someone who is interested in the technology to present. This is getting really sleepy.
eh, fuggeda bout it, where’s the gabago?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBD94cs0T8
ITS COMING I CAN SENSE IT
I feel a burb coming on… maybe it’s a sign?
These guys know as much about their products as I do about space shuttles and rocket science …they know about company numbers -_-
yaiii
Here it is!
Here it comes!
What happen？？？？i cannot see！！！！
Remember, folks, that this presentation isn’t meant for photographers … but those folks in the industry, as they are known in Los Angeles.
Finally lenses and cameras
ALPHA MOUNT SYSTEM??? REALLY? Two completely incompatible mounts are a system now?
I love it.
Anything is possible in Sonyland
maybe its a liquid metal mount that can change from e to a.
popcorn
Ishizuka (A and E-mount) got the coolest intro music. Nice.
Finally.
Wuuuhuuu, finally A7s
YESSS, finally
ISO 409k?!?
120fps? me likey
too bad it’s 720p 🙁
The heck is that ISO oO
I WANT ONE too!!!!
Here’s the big one. 400K ISO
Holy crap, ISO like the Nikon D4s ?
But the D4 having 16mp.
“Hello everyone. My name is Ishizuka. Let me introduce myself.”
Didn’t you just… You know what, never mind.
Exactly what I was thinking lol
please tell the details！！！
Somebody give me some cash to buy the camera and a bunch of lenses.
50mbs xvac. Nice.
I missed the S. It’s XVAC S, so I think that means it’s 4:2:0 internally.
120fpt 720p finally!!!! 🙂
Wow
i was hoping for 1080 120 but this is good too.
Never has 4k footage looked as good in 432p… Bravo A7S
I laughed.
price :O
Now it’s announced, yippie 😀
409,600 ISO … 12 stops of light from 100 …
Form factor?
Only one lens announced?
Which is?
That power zoom that they mentioned offhand
Thx, not interested in PZ though
28-135mm f/4 power zoom, but its under development, so might be a while.
Apparently, and not an especially interesting one unless you’re big on video.
It wasn’t even really announced. They just said they were “working on it”. Well, it seems like decent news for the video people out there.
So it’s just a rumor then haha
a7s: S stands for great sensitivity?
No. The S stands for “sh*t just got real”
Hold up. 50mbps xavc you say?
120fps/720p you say?
Only goes up to ISO 409,600 you say?
Sony has failed. I’m never buying sony again.
etc. etc.
😛
If only we had image stabilization we would be in nirvana buggers
why would u need an image stabilization if you put the shutter all the way up with higher ISO? I do need the digital steadyshot for video but i guess i have to rely on my physical stabilizer for that. The low light feature is good enough for me to drop my Amount cameras for Emount
Yea, probably right. I don’t do video, so it may be just what I need for my astro-photography and other stills. Hmm … I’ll probably wait a bit to see if an Amount comes out with the same sensor. But I wont hold my breath in the so called year of the A (Really E mount) (Bastard Marketing Team screwing the customer) year
Is that it? I was hoping they’d show more about the camera.
Was hoping on more than just one new lens … Was is 28-135 F4 ?
28-135mm f4 power zoon, yeah. Something video optimised or whatever it was.
That’s a good lens announcement.
Looks like a proper cine lens, with gears for follow focus etc.
Did they say anything about a new lens? 28-135 would be perfect though. Even if it was 3.5-4.5 or something…
Did I really just watch an hour of Sony propaganda just for an announcement that could have taken less than 2 minutes? Ugh.
yessir.
“Oh, and we are working on a power zoom” = it’ll be $6k and you’ll see it in 2 years
lol, your a pretty negative person. never seen a good comment by you. depressed ?
“And it won’t work with with the FS700” 😉
About 2 minuts of info, and thats it ? …. Come on, some more spec etc …
Hmm I am going to have to wait for the A88s Alpha Mount with IS and all me lensees worka just a fine.
Did I miss the price or am I just hoping for too much in a first announcement?
4k —- external 🙁 did i get it right?
yes, what this means is the camera will be reasonable, probably in the range of the A7r but the “brick” to record 4k will cost ya
damn… i was hoping to put it under my copter for 4 k recording 🙁
The Q7 is fairly reasonable, $2995, if the 4K out is any good, no mention if it was 8, 10 or 12-bit, or did I miss that?
nope
nothing on FPS? Admin pls help
Alpha mount?? Wtf!
Huh, did they say Alpha mount on the A7s? no way.
They said that Alpha mount is the general term for A- and E-mount. But A7s has E-mount, of course.
Ok, Thanks
If you guys missed it, it’s 4K with external recorder only! ONLY 1080p internally!
same here.. was that the case?
internal limite to 50mbs/sec?
No mention of the AF
28-135mm f4 Powerzoom in development!
Very exciting! I’m just hoping it’ll work with the FS700!
The “new FE lense” is a 28 135 F/4 powerzoom for video users? No new prime? And nothing about a new autofocus? It would be perfect with an all around camera with ultra low light capabilities… Interesting camera, but i need more informations…
Wow! They did announce it. Loved the demo video shot in complete darkness. Full Specs? 🙂
Damn, 120fps@720p but not at FullHD. GH4 wins. Sony just doesn’t let the camera beat FS100 anyway.
does the gh4 make 96 fps in 1080p ?
yes, that’s the point. Although the bitrate of GH4 is adjustable to cope with the high frame rate. Sony is unable to keep a distance from the competitor. 12MP with ISO 409600 wins the game but the pixel is still a little bit less for the conventional market. Some people may love it but not all of them need it if the price is set more expensive than the A7R
ok, i did not figure out if the 96fps where in 1080p. but if this is the case… and the a7 is at 120fps/720p, then i think i will have to go for the gh4….shame.. i was expecting a bit more…
You may check this out from dpreview.com. GH4 can do 96fps @1080. I have suggested Sony to provide slow mo in FullHD but they just don’t listen. I hope they will provide a firmware upgrade or at least, provide a payable option to unlock this feature. Otherwise the video battle is still being hard.
120fps in 1080p seems to be impossible to archive….sad. Panasonic LX7 and FZ200 did 120fps 720p two years ago…..
Disappointed…
Glad to see the A7s is here. FINALLY I can get a camera with better, larger pixels, not just more pixels. Sadly, I had this video running in another tab for what seemed like well over an hour with 4K business, and the A7s seemed like it was barely a couple of minutes. Oh well, at least it’s here. Glad I skipped the A77, A99, A7, A7R etc. A camera to finally put my Fuji X100 down.
E-mount？A-mount？
It’s an A7, so E-mount. But both E- and A-mount are Alpha mounts.
ok then…
Now that is a load of bull, marketing should be taken out and shot!
Sorry to get riled up but Alpha and A are too close and every consumer will be confused now. I now understand not to confuse A with Alpha. Ok ok, How many poor folks will waste time buying an A mount for their E mount and vise versa. Good Grief I’m talking to myself again.
Take a guess lol
both！！！
Alpha mount is both A and E mounts considered together. Looks like they are going to market them that way…
2 in 1？really？
The problem is not Sony, but the BS of this site that created the hype with no clue!
the problem is not with this site, but with people who expect all rumours to be 100% true but at the same time complain that there isn’t enough rumours!
from the site:
Here is the definition of the word “rumor” according to Merriam Webster dictionary:
Date: 14th century
1: talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source
2: a statement or report current without known authority for its truth
3 archaic : talk or report of a notable person or event —- Content Copyright If you want to use any image from this website you have to ask for permission. You cannot copy more than 20 words from any of our posts. And you have to define the source with “Source: SonyAlphaRumors.com” (working link).
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lol they made it 409.060 just to be a litle more then the 408.600 from the nikon 4ds
both of them are 409.600
Yaaayyyy! Sony is the champion in the number of incompatible mounts in the photography world hurraaaay.. My ass!
That 28-135mm lens looks great. Don’t forget us A mount users though Sony!
It’s ok. The new E mount stuff is Alpha Mount… just like your A mount. You’re getting the love but just don’t realize it.
they have some more information regarding the A7s on the sony style usa website
No internal 4K, only via an external HDMI recorder. :-/
How come Panasonic GH4 can record 4K and A7S can’t? Smaller sensor? lower bitrate codec?
I would think a smaller sensor in a larger body (GH4) makes it easier to fit more chips in. There are limitations regarding the heat as well. A built-in 4K codec generates a lot of heat, which can hinder the sensor’s noise performance. If you move the circuit outside of the camera, you eliminate that problem. It’s easy to see that Sony is pushing the envelope with the small body – large sensor concept. I’m not complaining, of course. There are always compromises to be made in engineering. I’m pretty sure Sony will soon release a 4K A-mount camera, which won’t need an external HDMI recorder, but the body will be larger.
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/vq5f/index.html
Sony US site for the A7s.
A7s announcement was pretty short. S stands for sensitivity. It can go from ISO 50-409,000 It will be very very very clean in lowlight. The slide said it will record 4K via HDMI to various 3rd party recorders. Internally Full HD. It will be the first intervhangeable lens still camera to feature FULL PIXEL READ OUT to do video which means the full HD will be bery very high quality. Dynamic range has been touted to be extremely high too. Both still images and video was shown. They said this is their first push towards a continous developmwnt of the Alpha mount system in slowly merging consumer and professional products. A 28-135 F4 powerzoom lens is also in development for this full frame video beast.
I can’t believe he actually said “w… w… w… dot sony dot com/…”
How do people not realize that web browsers no longer need that preamble. They all assume that you want to access the world wide web.
yeesh.
No 4K?????
4K movie recording requires a 4K compatible recorder says Sony
No, if you want uncompressed raw it requires external. That only makes sense since there’s no way the internal storage could keep up.
Not according to the Sony specs… no 4K in camera,
My mistake. Dang it Sony.
4K by using external recorder. Sad?
of course…
how much is it going to be?
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/translation_img/products/vq5f/overview/spec.pdf
Contrast detection? No hybrid focus? Odd choice.
UGH! I was so into this camera as a backup for weddings, especially for the dancefloor. But contrast-AF on a dancefloor is a disaster. Shoot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LtbRLRhu0tg
Sounds cool, but damn, “only” UHD, no DCI 4K, only 4:2:2 8-bit out? Wtf. I’m still intrigued, but the specs sounds like this won’t be my next camera.
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/vq5f/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dEA_8A9TBGM
Official page for A7s
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-us/products/vq5f/index.html
very clean image at ISO3200 w/ good dynamic range. useable ISO up to 12800, x3 the battery life of A7R because it has 12mpix?, 1080p 60fps XAVCS 50mbps, and 720p 120fps? S for SuperCamera!
That’s it! I’m sold to E-Mount. Im buying an A mount adapter w/ a grip. I cant wait to preorder A7S. Thank you very much Sony! If the price is around 2k then im buying a pair
I am guessing around 3k
x3 battery life????
battery life would probably be around the same
No RAW Video Output……
Focus system: sensitivity range -4 EV to 20 EV
Canon 6D pwned xD
Of course it is surely safe to assume that NONE of the lovely software improvements (picture profiles, time code) will be backported to the a7 or a7r.
So…it just a cmos refresh…
$1699.99 / £1299 (body only), $1999.99 / £1549 (with 28-70mm F3.5-5.6 lens)
Source or Link?
Dpreview.com, but they have removed the info now ….