You can now see the very first image samples taken with the Leica M-modul for the Ricoh GXR at http://www.grblog.jp/. As you know the module will be available in fall and feature a new APS-C sensor…yeah would have been nice if they would have added a fullframe sensor instead 😉
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Resized images only ? No full sizes ?
Hello
All the information available so far confirm the use of the same 12MP sony sensor of the other two existing A12 modules, so I don’t know why the article mentions a new APS sensor.
also IMHO , a serious camera site should not mention the lack of a so called FF sensor. there is NO camera on the market with interchangeable lenses and of that size with a 35mm sensor. and Honestly , it does not matter . the quality of the APS sensor makes it a better choice to allow smaller size of body AND lenses , plus enables the design of better lenses at a reasonable prices
Harold
It matters when the module is designed *specifically* for a mount that only has full-frame lenses…
RE: “Honestly , it does not matter”
Harold,
it matters THE MOST. With any crop, you loose fast wide angle, you increase DOF… It is only good for standard and tele in case of APS-C, and only for tele in case of u43.
Think for a moment, how to get fast 35mm… By attaching big, heavy and expensive 24mm???
Harold?you said NO camera on the market with interchangeable lenses and of that size with a 35mm sensor…then …how about leica m9?(although it’s a.rangefinder camera…)
I agree that FF isn’t important on the mirrorless body. In my point of view, compact size is quite important for me . Larger cmos size is a pro of cause , but if the camera or lens is bulky due to the larger sensor(such as NEX-5 slim body but bulky lens…) , maybe I prefer m43, or even a pentax Q.
I’ll bought the E-P3 Instead…NEX? Sorry….if I need better PQ , I’ll bring my dSLR…
someone maybe said I’m a fool , but I treat the mirrorless(or prosumer dc) a toy , bring it everywhere with ease and shoot what I like (lomo style?lol?)
Guess FF matter to some, a lot of Leica M8 users upgraded to the full frame M9. If this was a full-frame M mount back, folks would be standing in line to snatch up GR cameras with M-mount modules for entry level leica lens shooting and to to adapt all those Leica R lenses. M-mount is very short and also have adapters for almost any other lens system on the market.. a FF sensor would be a rocking huge deal, Ricoh would be dealing with a Fuji x100 kind of problem trying to fill orders.
The APS size sensor is probably why they used a 15mm f4.5 for some of the test shots and to pose on the camera.
Interesting, further down in the post is a picture of a mounted RICOH RIKENON 55mm 1.2 (effective 85mm 1.2 I guess) maybe Ricoh are thinking about getting into M mount lenses for the new module also.
i think the reason why others would prefer a FF sensor for the M-mount lenses is because of crop factor, not necessarily IQ. that way their wideangle lenses will still be wideangle lenses and not become standard lenses
FF sensors, being larger, cost more. And with all things semiconductor, costs go up polynomially at least.
If the camera were larger I would not care. A mirrorless full frame camera that can take any lens ever made would be a dream camera for me and open up many more creative possibilities with all of the great classic full frame lenses since the 1930’s. Every lens has a unique “look” to it. I relish the thought of using my f1.0 Noctilux full frame using a non rangefinder camera (EVF). Even though I use a Leica M8, this would give me more capability for my M lenses that I would not have with just a rangefinder design. Nice thing is I could use some of the great used SLR lenses on the same camera. Minolta made a great 50mm f1.2 Rokkor X that is cheap on Ebay.