Since days there are rumor floating around the web saying the NX20 has been delayed till early 2012. Now I just got the info from reliable sources saying that also the NX200 would come a bit later than expected (and not in July). I have been told that also the lenses would come on market a bit later than expected because they are undergoing some last minute design changes. I don’t know yet the reason for the delay of the camera.
I now expect the NX200 to be announced in late August/early September only!
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And so they tease…
Building tension in us gear heads.
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Last paragraph was scribble scrabble
they may have delayed the release now that olympus has already announced 3 new cameras, all with very fast AF speed. So Samsung has to at least come close to some of the high points of those cameras. this may not be a bad thing, as it means that theyre trying to fix or plug up any glaring weaknesses. who knows, they may make last minute design changes. i find that the samsung lenses design is more close to canon lenses than let’s say nikon cause their form is more curvy then the sharper edged nikkors and sony zeiss stuff. IMO the nx100 should have followed the design of the ex-1, but the lenses wouldnt match it as well. but i expect the nx200 to have at least a rubberized grip, better body material, magnesium alloy or at least a heavier better plastic and a movable screen. i hope the screen folds like the ex-1 so it can be turned around and off if anyone wants to stick an optical viewfinder on it for their pancake lenses.
As for sony announcements i wouldnt be surprised if it was delayed again, as the minolta ppl in sony have a hard time understanding what timely release and customer support means. they used to have good equipment, but never marketed and supported them. and with the nex c3 , you can see the direction that theyre going, it wont be too long before they shave the camera down to the size of a pack of matches.
Panasonic has already killed their gf line by dumbing it down because the gf-1 was and is so popular, it probably ate profits in their other g line.
Pentax is now pounding away at the last nail in their coffin when they release their little ultra expensive csc camera with a point and shoot sensor.though i cant understand why they woulld release something like that. any scs camera pentax makes would be popular enough to kill their dslr line…and they barely have little scraps left in that market.
if samsung plays their cards right and releases decent cameras at affordable prices, with a decent lens line, they may stay around for a long time to come.
I think you’re totally right: Samsung recently has a record for withdrawing already announced products to re-design them to meet (or say, copy?) the specifications of the competition. Probably after the G3- und E-P3 launch they were forced to change something (did I say copy?). The same happened after the release of Apple’s iPad 2. Samsung took its just announced tablet back to the drawing board to make it thinner etc…similar things happened with phones. Strategy: Have matching design and include some more bells and whistles while selling for a similar or lower price.
I also thing they could be around successfully if they do it right.
Samsung is a colossal enterprise that arguably as big as Sony/Panasonic/Olympus combined, if they decided to get into the camera business then they mean it.
i think the delay is for the better
Here’s a better strategy: Build BETTER products than your competition, rather than “me-too” products 6 months later.
Well, that depends on who is the competition. No one seems to build better dslrs than Canon or Nikon, just ask Sony, Pentax and Olympus.There is NOT one camera that can do everything for everyone. the best camera doesnt ensure you get the best photos, neither is having the best lenses in the world, just ask 99.99% of Leica users, who seem to think that sharp photos with a ” Leica glow” equals that of a great photo…not. Or ask the many pixel peepers who do more looking at corners of photos than going out and actually doing photo taking. Ask people who like to use 1.2 lenses..see if those lenses take greater pictures than lenses slower than f2.
These are Samsungs first two cameras, and they were nice enough to make 3 small pancake lenses for their compact system, unlike Sony, who cant seem to make up their mind on whether they want to make dslrs or dslt’s, full frame or no full frame whether they should make the nex bodies smaller or even smaller, or whether they should include knobs one year or not the next.Their long waited a77 is set to come out but they dont even have concrete plans on what their entry level lines will be. Mind you, the Canon rebel is that companies best selling dslr. And here sony is trying bank everything on one mid range semi pro camera.Wheres the pro models, the lower models, the plan, the direction? There is none.Since buying Minolta they are a rudderless ship going left and right in circles.
I work in a camera store myself and I can tell you one thing, when customers..most customers spend over 600 on a camera..its going to be a dslr..not a Panny or Olympus m4/3. they buy a sony nex only cause they can impress their friends with that cameras 7 fps. they will not fork out a grand for Zeiss lenses..if they ever come out.They will not spend a grand on m4/3 lenses as well, rather if they had too, they would buy a canon L or nikon lens. There are too many types of cameras out there and the pie is getting smaller and smaller.Most ppl who buy csc cameras are enthusiasts or dslr users. Most ppl who by compact point-shoots upgrade to a canon g12. Most customers who have bought a sony nex could care less about new lenses, as they have already spent 700 on the camera-kit lens with the sony nameplate.
If samsung is smart than they have to cater to the dslr crowd, unlike what panny is doing with their gf2- gf-3.You just wait and see, if most of my customers wont spend almost 700 after tax on the gf-2 , they wont buy the gf-3. Panasonic has effectively killed 2 consumer branches with one stone.the camera is too expensive for point-shoot noobs, and no self respecting enthusiast will touch it, esp when the gf-1 is a much greater camera. People dont just see 700 dollars as an imaginary thing, 700 nowadays gets you a pretty big lcd
tv..and customers will not spend 700 on a camera unless they see themselves using and getting more enjoyment out of the camera than that big screen TV..which is few and far in between.
Totally agree!
Samsung may be a big electronics company but right now, they are nothing in the mirrorless world, yes they have huge potential but so does Canon and Nikon of they decide to jump in. You cant fid the current nx in the shops as they have all but run down the stock or stopped stocking it while waiting for new products, doesnt matter how much spin or glass half-full, if you look at there other divisions, tv’s, cameras etc then this slo……………w release would not be acceptable. I think people have been tempted by the NX but since those early days Samsung have delivered nothing, in nearly 2 years? the core of the system is exactly as day 1, 30mm prime, 18-55 and 50-200, yes they added a 20mm(wow that was aweome, not!) and an unstabilised 20-50, big deal. Their achievments since day 1 with NX10, equal zero in fact, just lots of rumors and lots of talk of lens roadmaps and this and that and actually delivering nothing to the marketplace. Samsung are number 1 joke in Japan as far as cameras are concerned!
I know why they haven’t yet, but I REALLY wish Canon would get off it’s rump and get out a mirrorless body. It would need a new mount, but they could make it backwards compatible to control their EOS lenses. I know why they haven’t — it’s a sound decision from a business point of view, but as a consumer, I’d really like a Canon option.
I imagine that after Olympus’ recent product dump, they decide to improve their own AF speed. Because if it is not on par with latest m43 (or upcoming NEX-7) then the NX2* cameras would be as good as DOA in the market.
When Samsung delayed the Tab 10.1″ for the iPad2 dimentions, we got the new Tab thinner and lighter than iPad2 with a excellent software, so I don´t strange Samsung is redesigning the NX200/20 because the new Olympus and Sony.
Yes, me too think they delayed the bodies to match some specs of Olympus/Panasonic/Sony and for me it is a great news. But don’t know about the lenses.. I need that 16mm before november 🙂
it wasn’t delayed, they simply didn’t plan to announce anything this week. the rumor was fake.
if this means that we will get a better camera than i can wait a couple of months more : )
“next announcements (Samsung, Olympus, Panasonic, Sony) will be made in one and half month”
What will be announced by Olympus in August?
I am the internet’s complete lack of surprise. Just like nikon’s endless mirrorless patents I will try to care once I see “in stock” in my Amazon checkout cart.
When it comes to nikon or canon mirrorless camera rumors, i doubt that they would get into the market at this time.their dslr lines are doing so well that any smaller camera they make with equivalent I.Q would eat into their profits.If they were to get into the csc system, their sensors would have to be at least a bit smaller then the m4/3 ones, but with with very close I.Q. to m4/3. I cant see Canon or Nikon making something that would equal in price and I.Q as their entry level dslr’s..it would be like creating 2 systems to compete for the same market share they already have.
As for the Samsung rumors being true or fake, no one knows until it comes out or not. In the realm of aps-c sensor csc cameras, there are only 2 choices. Samsung or Sony. And right now, i wont waste my time waiting for Sony new lenses, if they ever come out, it will cost a fortune for those Zeiss lenses. I dont see many women or men for that matter who buy a nex to spend a grand or more on a lens. Many ppl talk about premiere lenses and full frame this or that, but the truth is very very few ppl can afford or justify those prices. Iam fine if samsung never makes a lens faster than f2..as iam not one of those ppl who like to walk around with a 3 lb lens just to show off or look like some pro wannabe.
And as for Olympus, i do like the Af speed of their new cameras, and i think that the panny gf-3 with the noob look and design will effectively drive their gf customers away to the pens. One thing i dont like about the pens are their prices.When you are a top 2 camera company like canon or nikon, then you can charge those prices..not when you have market share scraps.
I also hope the nx20 will have a very close design like that of the nx10. I thought the nx10 was a wonderful design of a camera, it looked like an dslr but it was thin, small, and had a really good grip for its small size. i seriously hope samsung doesnt screw around like sonyminolta does and change design just for the sake of changing it. there is an old saying that sonyminolta seem to ignore at every turn, which is.. ” don’t fix things that aren’t broken.”
Announcement is delayed. The sales dates are the same – September.
Samsung decided to announce NX200 at IFA 2011.
02.09.2011 – 07.09.2011
Right move IMO.
It’s vacation time now. July is not good to attract new users…