Amateur Photographer reports that “Canon has no plan to incorporate an electronic viewfinder (EVF) in any future EOS M compact system cameras (CSCs) and will not be publishing a ‘roadmap’ of upcoming lenses.“
I don’t know if Canon is just trying to fool us. becuase cameras liek the NEX-6 and Fuji X-E1 are actually real hotsellers (at least according to those Amazon rankings). My guess, Canon is talking “xxxx-shit” 🙂
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Unfortunately, I believe Canon is very serious about ignoring EVF and focusing this system on non-enthusiasts.
I need a compact system camera for ski photography. Carrying a heavy DSLR setup in the backpack is not always an option.
Cameras without viewfinder do not work outdoors, and especially not in the snow. On top of that, Canon refuses to indicate how it is going to produce compact tele lenses for its M system. If the 18-55 is an indication, there will be no such thing as a compact tele lens for this system, in the same way that there is no compact tele lens for the NEX system. This renders the EOS M system completely useless to me. The whole point of an ILC camera is the ability to mount lenses of different focal lengths.
I ended up choosing between m4/3 and Nikon 1, and decided on a PEN E-P2 together with the optional viewfinder.
Are they simply admitting their epic FAIL?
Sounds VERY uncertain, not to mention unprofessional.
They should learn from Fuji. It shouldn’t be such a big transgression to assure your buyers that what are your plans.
Its not like there is a revolutionary focal length that your competition hasn’t thought of… Canon its not 1950…
Lens tech and features you can hide. Give us a plan.
Good for them! 🙂
Blessed ignorance!
So it’s a two-lens system. Wow. Kudos to Canon.
Bet the early adopters are loving this news.
I can’t understand the reasoning. Users who are used to smartphones and compacts are not spending thousands of dollars in cameras with interchangeable lenses + lenses. They have no idea what is lens aperture or ISO value, what is DoF or even sensor size.
A system camera with an APS-C sensor is obviously targeted at enthusiasts. Who else would buy such camera?
Worse thing is that this message is a kind of “Don’t wait for us”. Excellent marketing strategy (I for one was willing to wait for them a bit…)
The best part of this statement is that I don’t have to give a single euro to them. All I see is a dead end.
It might as well have said that the EOS M system is dead-on-arrival if that is truly the case
Too bad. it could have been a really cute new system
Ok, I gave-up , I will go for NEX-6 than. I’m waiting to see if there’s a “EOS FOR MAN”. I think canon will not do that….just only leave it for women….
canon M series sucks so far anyway. Maybe they will come up with smth. absolutely new.
They aren’t fooling us – they’re fooling themselfs. They dream of better DSLR sales, when in reality everyone and her mother, is looking for a smaller/lighter alternative. They’ll wake up, when it’s too late.
At the moment, Canon has no reason to push in the mirrorless market sector—they are doing just fine with their DSLRs.
If I were Canon, I’d have some serious words to say to the senior product specialist. The last thing you’d want to do is send out signals of arrested development of the EOS-M system.
Most young people grow up with point&shoot and iphone, which doesn’t have EVF. EOS-M target at them. I think cameras work fine without viewfinder. 99% of the world won’t become professional photographers.
The problem is Canon is ignoring a very large group of mirrorless camera users that want an EVF and more advanced features. This isn’t a problem now, but currently those people are buying Sony, and the more that buy Sony the fewer are going to buy Canon in the future as well. Also, if people look at the EOS M as an entry level SLR, canon is fine, but what if they view it as an entry level mirrorless? Canon doesn’t have anything more advanced for them to upgrade too so they might be more inclined to go with Sony. I say Sony, but could just as easily be Panasonic or Samsung, or a different brand.
Cool. Actually rather customer friendly: don’t waste your time, go look elsewhere, or you’ll be disappointed.
Nikon 1 & EOS-M. Two big players in the DSLR business, two big fails in the mirrorless market and in 10 years two underdogs in the camera business…
@Soren
don’t tell Thom Hogan or his disciples :p
As soon as there is a reason fot them they will react, don’t think they are stupid. They know more about what costumers want than any of us….because it’s their buisness.
@fritz
better to pre-empt than to react, because often to react is too late….
You got it wrong. Nikon 1 has the potential of a very strong future.
In a couple of years these little 1″ sensors will reach the same level of performance as current full frame sensors. With such a small sensor, Nikon has the possibility to develop some very compact lenses (which is impossible on APS-C systems like EOS M, NEX, etc…). As a compact system for the future, Nikon 1 makes a whole lot more sense than NEX or EOS M. Have you seen the autofocus and metering on Nikon 1?
An interchangeable lens system is as strong as its lenses. EOS M, NEX, Fuji X will never have tele lenses or ultra wide angle lenses that are in proportion to their respective camera body sizes. Never. M4/3 does and Nikon 1 will.
Of course sensor tech is not there yet, but Nikon (as well as Olympus and Panasonic) seem to be really planning ahead for the future. Nikon introduced the F mount over 50 years ago and it is still relevant. The Nikon 1 mount is designed to last 50 years as well, which is something that can’t be said about the ill-though-out EOS M, NEX, or retro chique Fuji X.
I don’t believe Mr Richard Shepherd. In one year time, the answer will be totally different.
It makes the Eos-M seem like a toe-dipping exercise rather than taking the segment seriously. The appleTV of mirrorless cameras. I would never buy into a new system without some idea of what lenses are coming. Maybe they really see this as a second, smaller body for Canon dslr users or as something some rich guy buys for his girlfriend. I don’t know…
Canon is missing out on a valuable and growing market segment by not pushing forward aggressively with this system. I know other major player “dinosaurs” who refused to change and give consumers what they want: they’re called the music industry, and look what happened to them–they were decimated by the change to digital distribution!
Ok, seems like there is no future for Canon EOS-M system. I’ll buy Fuji XE1 instead. At least they have promised to release new lenses next year.
Admin, I think you mean bull-xxxx not xxxx-shit. The ´shit´ is the rude part of the phrase which needs to be censored, not the ´bull´ =D
Canon seems to sit back and sell its name tag for some time now, i wonder how long it takes them to realize that they need to innovate or at least try to match their opponents..
Seriously, who cares about Canon? They are neglecting the mirrorless market and crippled feats from their DSLR, there were no improvement in video since the 5DMKII basically – although a lot of people believe that Canon is a video powerhouse, when they are not, at least in the DSLR/Hybrid camera market. They moved all their video resources to the EOS C cameras. But even the EOS C cameras are crippled by them. Canon is doing very conservative moves, I expected much more of them, Although Nikon has been conservative too, they are at least experimenting some stuff in their Nikon1 line up, experimenting with pics with sound, high-speed videos, etc.
They will go the way of Polaroid Land if they only concentrate on DSLRs. They are dinosaurs
Canon are the biggest camera manufacturer in the world. They’re not going anywhere any time soon, even if their mirrorless option is very dull.
And don’t forget all their other products like printers etc. I might take my photos on Olympus cameras but I print them on Canon printers (reluctantly).
Wrong moves by Canon. I guess they figure they can coast on their brand name alone; maybe they can. But it seems they are making all the boring moves these days, while other companies make bolder moves and capture people’s imaginations.
Again, they may know what they are doing…but it seems like poor business decisions to me.
This way, they’ll end up like Minolta – soon we’ll only be able to buy Canon printers.
“Shepherd replied that Canon’s extensive lens history suggests the company will bring out further lenses.”
are u kidding ? when was the last EF-S lens release ? not counting focus motor updates and repackaging, something like 2008. They could as well straight out admit they don’t care about EOS-M and that it’s a dead-born system.
Pathetic. After being the last to enter the mirrorless race, you’d have thought they would be watching the competition closely, and listening to what the consumers want. Instead they give us this glorified point-and-shoot abomination, and seemingly have little interest in producing a mirrorless Canon camera actually worth owning.
It looks like either Sony with the NEX-6, or Fuji with their X-system are the best bets, although Fuji are turning a bit into a mini-Leica with the outrageously expensive lenses. I mean give us some relatively cheap options at least.
No EVF no sale.
I would like to see Canon bring out a FF EOS-M with great controls, a nice large EVF, and a high DR FF sensor with low noise. They would own the mirrorless market.
Add a 24, 35, 50, 85mm lenses.
On what basis would they “own” the mirrorless market?
In the DSLR market, APS-C cameras outsell their ‘full-frame’ equivalents many times over. Why do you think that in the mirrorless market the opposite would be true and people would flock to buy a FF ILC with the increased cost and lens size that would result?
It would seem perverse to reduce the size and weight by taking out the mirror, and then slap huge lenses on it that negate that and more.