From left to right: Yosuke Aoki, Vice President Sony Digital Imaging Europe
Atsushi Ueda, image quality engineer for Sony mount A and E,
Naoki Miyagawa, optician engineer for Sony mount A and E.
Image courtesy: LesNumeriques.
I am still not 100% sure about it but tomorrow (Sunday 6) there is a fair chance Sony will unveil new FE lenses too! Last weeks Mark Weir from Sony US said we won’t have long to wait to see the new lenses. And he also said fast aperture lenses are in the works too.
Today a French SAR reader (Merci Max!) pointed me out to a new Sony interview posted at Lesnumeriques (google translation here). Here Sony FE lens designer Naoki Miyagawa said he would like to build an e-mount 85mm f1.4 (or even f1.2) if he had time (given by Sony) to do so. And I don’t know why but my instinct says he already designed the lens and that it’s ready for the market 🙂
The official Sony FE lens roadmap.
Damn would I love to get a 85mm f/1.4 lens (don’t need the extra weight of an f/1.2). This will be a hot day tomorrow!
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I don’t think I would be able to afford a 1.2. I would be happy with 1.8
Yes, I would too. A 1.4 would be much bigger and probably twice the price. The focus for me must be on quality. The 24-70 f/4 got shot down before it made the shelves and that is a bad signal for photographers wanting to make the switch to sony.
85mm!!! YES!!!……It’s gonna be expensive ain’t it? T.T
Hope this prime is no wider than f/2.8, like 35 f/2.8.
Admin can tell us if there is any chance at all of new sony alpha glass ?
85/1,4 is not likely. There is no need for such a lens. There is high-iso and steadyshot. Most probably would be 85/2,8. Maybe 85/2 but that makes the lens huge like nikon.
RF 85mm f2 is tiny, nothing like big SLR lenses.
But when you try and fit AF into RF sized lenses…
Not to mention OSS, electronic aperture, internal focusing, battery, leaf shutter.
So this 85 1.4 is not really a rumor, just something that you would like? If you received no hint of this, why would you post it?
Because admin is allowed his own personal opinions too
He’s more than allowed to have opinions, but it is very misleading and should post his opinions in comments, not as posts. It’s sony alpha rumors, not sony alpha dreams and hopes.
If you read the comments you’d think it’s the latter :p
Sony seems to be very committed to FF and E-mount. I hope they start showing the same commitment for the A-mount soon enough to avoid the revival of the annoying “A-mount is dead” syndrome!
Revival? This syndrom has only been getting worse, and for a good reason. Since the release of A77 Sony made no serious claims in the DSLR market, and A77 was released 3 years ago.
Sony can thank its lucky stars Canikon hasn’t moved into mirrorless in a serious way because Sony’s marketing department is so terrified of Canikon I can’t imagine what would happen to e-mounts. ;^)
Sony has a poor history of competing with Canikon head-on in SLRs so they’ve moved to the smaller pond of mirrorless where fellow SLR drop-up Olympus and some relatively small fish like Lumix (Panny) and Fuji are all they have to worry about. As long as Canikon keeps milking the SLR segment and largely ignores mirrorless (out of fear of cannibalizing their cash cow?) I expect Sony’s lazy marketing department to keep following the path of least resistance. Sony’s the only player in FF mirrorless so it’s logical it gets the most love plus so much of their stuff like FE lenses will work on APS-C bodies so why not?
I have some hope Sony’s marketing department has actually bothered to put together a coherent strategy based upon a graphic of a strategic roadmap SAR posted. So far, every announcement pretty much adheres to it. I’ve been saying for a while – hardly Nostradamus as I think many see this too – the a-mount bodies won’t get released until the 2nd half of 2014. Following a summer a77II release, I wouldn’t expect any other a-mount body until fall to squeak into the Christmas season.
I lke to use a 90mm f 2.8 macro which for me serves the funtion of this lens.
If this lens did macro I might have some interes..otherwise not.
I think that your needs may be addressed by the manual focus lenses Zeiss plans to release in the 3rd quarter. Certainly, a 100mm macro should be in the works. Makes a little more sense if AF isn’t a priority, which, in macro, it really isn’t.
Many people for good reason only use manual focus for macro.
The traditional simple setup invelves prefocusin for the desired magnification ratio, preseting up all lighting , and then moving the entire set up in or out and taking the picture when the subject is in focus.
Today several factors make autofocus a much more usable alternative than in the past.
Internal focus lenses have front elements that do not move in and out, therfore maintaining a more controlled subject distance while focusing.
New high speed and tracking af sytems also make af quicker and easier.
The primary barrier to af is the fact that the af may choose to focus on the wrong part of the subject.
By practicing with your camera you can learn how to make your camera af on what you choose rather than what your camera chooses.Use of focus lock is a good practice.
These factors make af a much more usable macro option than in the past, particularly handheld and with rapidly moving subjects.
I actually use af more often then manual and have become quite good at convincing a sometimes stubburn camera to do it my way
Also, cheap 3rd party macro extension rings exist, that maintain communication between lens and camera. So AF, aperture, OSS, MF override, lens info, operate as usual. EVF makes it even more easy to work with.
Extension tubes are inexpensive and good for occasional use.
If like myself macro is youre most important type of shooting then niether the image quality or ease of use compares to a true macro lems.
I shoot almost exclusively macro and tele
An interesting and practical use for an extension tube is with a long tele zoom.
Not only does it all slightly closer focusing but also since these lenses generally are shorter in foc length for close focus than at infinity they actually increase the focal length at close focusing distances.
The result is a greater increase in magnification than you would expect based on the math.
Allthat being said I rarely ever actually use my extension tubes in the field.
I am using a Leica 75AA on A7R. The results, when all things being ideal, are superb. But it also has limitations from the camera, the shutter being the main factor.
I do not see a fast FE 85 being very useful (for an A7R) compared to say a DSLR/DSLT. What is needed is a FW fix for the A7R or a new cam with better shutter characteristics, preferrably with a trade in option for the A7R.
Silly, silly. An 85/1,8 would be my bread and butter
On which cam?
To me, the cameras are very attractive and good value but the lens lineup is absolutely terrible and doesn’t look interesting for the forseeable future. I’m not interested in the available lenses and they’re not good value at all. Wish Sigma would make some lenses for it, preferably some fast lenses with stabilization. I like Zeiss lenses but I think they’re typically a huge ripoff.
The Zeiss FE 55mm is pretty much the best standard 50-ish on the planet, bar the Otus. It’s actually pretty cheap when judging its performance, certainly not a rip off.
exactly. my first reaction when they released the price was “are they mad? thats ten times the price of other 50-ish 1.8 lenses” – but after using it that totaly switched. that lens is awesome, as said, easily the sharpest lens i ever used (and my bag is full of canon L glass) – its actually pretty cheap for what it is. happily sold my canon 50 1.2 for it.
Still testing mine only I paid 700 for mine and now I think I will be selling the 35mm since I really cant afford both and I like my canon fd 35mm 2.0 concave better. So far I am impressed with the 55.
Fast mirrorless AF probably won’t work with 3rd party lenses.
First Sony is preparing to challenge Cannon’s DSLR video… now they are challenging Canon’s legendary 85mm f1.2?? Sony is definitely serious! If this rate continues people will have to stop referring to the pro camera market as Canikon.
What will the new name be?
CanSo?
Sonkon?
SoCaNi?
Canony?
I’d prefer a 85mm 1.8 OSS :3
100mm or 105mm, f2.5 OSS
An 85/1,8 OSS would be ideal. I also need a 50/1,8 OSS and a 35/1,8 OSS. All T/1,8, not F/1,8. To go with the new A7S. Then I’d be happy. And a 135STF FE OSS.
Please give us APSC 85/1.8 OSS Please! Fuck this FE crap!
1.8 would be the best choice. Otherwise i will buy the Nikon 1.8 G with adapter for the A6000 (lost the U$ 100 discount on Amazon, snif….).
I KNEW IT! Exactly as I said it before. Sony was going to skip apsc 85mm and make it for FF.
good call and it makes more sense to make it FF since it would work just the same on apsc
Actually not exactly the same. It would be cropped from FF to APSC so wouldn’t be exactly 85 anymore. Also APSC view would be slightly distorted. Think of it as giving a little kid who needs small glasses, huge elderly sized glasses. If you wear glasses you will understand. All it takes is for sony to also come out with a superb fast 35 along with the 85 and I might just have to upgrade to FF.
it would be cropped but it would still be 85mm that wont change. if you use the 50mm 1.8 oss on a nex then the 55mm on a a7 the 55 allows you to get closer. A 85mm made for apsc would still look the same as having a full frame 85mm.
Yes you are correct. It will actually still be 85, because the distance the A7 FF sensor from the flange is the same as the NEX.
You’re analogy makes no sense whatsoever. 85 mm will always be 85 mm.
Dof is different
If your having difficulty understanding that having a different flange distance between the lens and the sensor you will get a different FOV. Yes a 85mm lens will be always 85mm, but the FOV wont be the same 85mm FOV on FF vs APS-C. Most lense you buy from retailers there will be a description specifying the FOV in mm FF vs APS-C.
Here you can read it with your own eyes.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1029862-REG/sony_sel70200g_70_200mm_f_4_5_6_g_lens.html
The Sony FE 70-200mm f/4.0 G OSS Lens is a full-frame E-mount lens with a short to medium telephoto zoom range with an equivalent focal length of 105-300mm on APS-C cameras. It features a constant aperture of f/4.0 for good low-light capabilities at any focal length and smooth out-of-focus elements. This makes it useful for portraits and sports photography where you want to separate the subject from the background.
For APS-C you don’t get 70-200 you get 105-300. Do you understand?
I’m surprised that everyone seems to prefer a f1.8. Am I the only one that’s tired of seeing only f1.8 lenses from Sony in e-mount and nothing faster? I suppose at this focal length, OSS would be very important and that adds to the overall size of the lens. Faster lenses are usually more expensive so i guess it makes sense. I just find myself much more intrigued by what Fuji is doing with their XF series lenses, but I prefer the Sony bodies.
No you are not. All this f/4 zoom, f/2.8 prime (lol? srsly?) is fking dreary to say the least. I’m not sure why is it they refuse to make some decent glass instead of pumping out cameras all day long.
35/1.4, 85/1.4 would’ve been a lot more useful than another stupid camera. (Admittedly 4k is cool and a7s look like a good camera.)
f/1.4 and faster lenses are reserved for A-Mount. There’re 35/1.4, 85/1.4, 135/1.8 and such. E-Mount was supposed to be compact, not a replacement for those lenses.
Because clearly Sumillux 35/1.4 is a big, heavy, clunky abomination, amiright? Save those marketing BS for yourself.
Agreed. Everyone and their sister has an 85mm f1.8 already. Another 85 1.8 would be… well… just another 85 f1.8.
Where-as an f1.4 has the potential to be a ‘stand-out’… and an f1.2 has the potential to be ‘legendary’.
I’m gonna start saving now for it 🙂
I am a bokeh whore and all but 1.8/2.0 is a good compromise I guess for size/price
85mm f/1.4!!! Bring it on Sony! As a side note I find it interesting that Naoki Miyagawa’s favorite lens is the 138mm f/2.8 STF…perhaps a hint of what’s to come!
I would love a stf for e-mount
I gotta tell you – the 135 STF is pretty compact. I use it on the A7r all the time.
Really? I was thinking it was the same size as the sony 135mm 1.8 that I sold last year. I really miss that lens. The stf is on my list either way. I wonder if the coating is different on the minolta version.
what is going on in that picture, crazy bokeh? no pun..
that is the stf lens. It was made for bokeh. It has two sets of aperture blades.
thanks., hmmm… googeli’n……
That sounds far more like he has not been given time to do it and has gone public so users can show there is a demand and twist Sonys arm to giving him the time to design it.
Oh, an Ultrawide zoom, even through its only f/4, but well, i’d like to have one for sure!
Guess we have seen the last of APS-C lens development. Cry cry.
This appears to be true.
Yep, that seems to be the case.
That’s not true!
Sony just released the new SEL1850!
No seriously, I’m afraid you’re right.
would buy that thing instantly and sell another of my canon lenses. heavy 5D3 only needed für reportage work than. *dreams* a 1.8 would be sufficient though, could be small and compact, just a tiny bit bigger than the 55 1.8.
Probably same size as 55/1,8. Same as A-mount easy-choice lenses: 35, 50, 85 all same size.
The lens i would like to see is a 24-135 f4, professional grade. For my magazine and corporate event work that range lens would be ideal.
I would easily spend 2,500 (US$) on that since it would make my job much easier. I do not think I am alone on this wish lens, (24-70 was landmark 10 years ago). Changing lenses in a dark room during a presentation is just not my idea of smooth work flow, that range would eliminate most of that (for me)
The 85 1.4 is needed and will be welcomed, but it is just a repackaged SLR lens with little or no real development required. It should have been in the lineup 4 months ago.
24-135 f/4 sounds like an A-Mount lens.
And 85 f/1.4 already exists for A-Mount by Zeiss.
E-Mount is reserved for more compact narrow-aperture lenses.
“E-Mount is reserved for more compact narrow-aperture lenses.”
…said nobody at Sony.
That makes sense if over 50% of E-mount users also own an A-mount camera, which is highly doubt.
Otherwise Sony should start making A-mount lenses with OSS, which I doubt as well.
I mean, isn’t the whole point of interchangeable lens cameras that you can choose the lens that best suits a specific need? Sometimes you want a small lens but sometimes the size really doesn’t matter.
And who knows if Sony is planning to release A77 and A99 like E-mount cameras in the future.
Don’t be silly. You don’t need A-mount camera dear. Try the LA-EA4 adapter.
How many Sony A-mount lenses have OSS?
none because A-mount has that built in to the body
I have the Leica 2.0 90mm APO Asph., so it would have to be a killer lens to replace the Leica. That said, realize that we are talking a big piece of glass on the FF A7/A7r/A7s once we are going beyond f/2.0. Of course, that assumes a first class bit of optics without in camera compensation of any sort.
how’s the AF?
How about some tilt-shifts?
you are on fire! cracking up..
Anything too different to what we already have for dslr mounts might not be a good idea because of the existing corner color shifting and shading issue.
85/2.0 w/OSS. I’d give up some speed for smaller size and OSS so you can use it for handheld video.
Day one purchase for me, even if I have to sell all my lenses to afford it.
85mm 1.4 is useless if it’s going to be as large as the Fuji and Panasonic equivalents. 67mm filter size portrait lens is what I have on the 5D. Stop dreaming and just give us a compact 85mm 1.8 or 2.0. if we needed a FF cannon we have the A99 to use it on! Sony needs to see its ranges as complementary, not duplicate what is already in the other Sony systems!
In fact. Stop dreaming and just give us a lens, ANY lens! God knows the gap is so huge, any lens would be doing us a favour.
There are a couple of things holding me back from moving to Sony – a 85 1.2/1.4 lens and an off camera TTL flash cord. If I get both, it is finally time to say Bye to Canon.
I have the first generation Canon 85mm f/1.2 and it is a huge and heavy lens. I would sure want a bit larger grip/camera to keep such a beast comfortably in hand. I’m not so sure that a small form factor works for all lenses and all users. In fact, the grip is too small for me, even when I have the vertical grip attached to my A7.
I have the same lens and I agree it is a heavy lens. The E-mount equivalent should be less heavy, I am assuming. It doesn’t have to be a 1.2. If a 1.4 aperture helps with striking a good balance with the camera body, so be it. But it needs to be at least 1.4 for me to switch. The Nikon 85 1.4 (the older one) is pretty lightweight compared to the Canon 85 1.2.
there is one more problem and that would be there flash system sucks for anything serious even though there flash design is the best. I just use manual flash with nikon sb-28 and yn II flash with my A7.
I want 24-105mm f/4… not very original but I’m sure I’m not the only one…
Make that 24 105 G please. Dont need another overpriced Zeiss…
+2
+1
I really like that. I was thinking a 24-50 f2 but 24-105 f4 sound very good for events since I use flash.
By mid-May, the Sigma 24-105 f4 Art will be available for A-mount ( it’s already being sold for C&N ).
Can anyone seriously believe that A-mount is not dead? We have yet to hear a thing about A-mount from Sony, but tons on E-mount. I just wish they would hurry-up and sell the damn thing to Hasselblad and be done with it! At least A-mount folks would know where they stand. A-mount is dead, dead, dead. Oh, like the lens roadmap, where is the A-mount roadmap? Long live the year of the A-mount Alpha!
Dan
Isn’t A77 II will be announce soon?
Exactly why do you care? Merely trolling? ;^)
SAR needs to split into two message boards, one for technical discussion and another for chronic complainers like Dan.
so a A77 mark 2 is a e-mount? Everything has its time and as much as I don’t care about A-mount anymore I don’t think its dead until they say its dead.
The A-Mount is not dead, you however are brain dead.
85mm f/0 with OSS, please. Why bargain?
a good laugh there! Thanks 😛
I refuse to buy another Sony product till we get a fast prime and they correct the 7r shutter slam. I’ve spent over £3,000 and I can’t use my gear on a daily basis.
Remember, by refusing, you’re only hurting yourself, never Sony.
LOL. f/1.8 is SLOOOOOOW. And “shutter slam”? Give me a break! Do Sony a favor and go buy a Canon system.
All my 1/125 images suffer shutter vibration. Can you show us some of your handheld 1/125 or 1/100 pictures made with A7R and a, let’s say 55mm 1.8?
Handheld at 1/3s with a stabilised 35mm (click to see bigger): http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/11711166705/
More:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/tags/canon35mmf2isstabilisationtest
It worries me that’s the type of pictures being taken with a 36mp camera
If something like that worries you it means you’re old and weak. Stay near the fire place.
We asked for 1/100 or 1/125. Besides, why don’t you use a phone for these pics? It’s cheaper and smaller.
You have much to learn about photography. Bet you hear classical pianists and say you can play piano on a ipad as well ROFL
Learn the relationship between shutter speed and shake. No wonder how your shots are blurry. People dont need to be in to photography to be able figure out that a higher shutter speed freezes motion. Even a 7 year old would know that. How stupid can you be?
That’s what you get for wanting more than you need. My a7 is perfect. And the 55 is a fast prime. If the dof was any thinner focussing would be a nightmare.
That’s cos you spent money but never learned how to use the camera. I use my a7r all the from 12mm to 600mm on a regular basis.
You should have tried before you bought. Sony is good on paper but has a ton of little problems creeping up over time. This applies to computers, mobiles and cameras.
Canon and Nikon, instead, consistently deliver the goods. Just saying…
Dear Main Boss Here^ The Sony G Macro won’t have OSS?
I WANT TO BEAT HIS ASS. we already have 2 primes.
GIVE US A WIDE ANGLE ZOOM!!!!!!!!!
Notice how the guy in the middle kept his hands, just like a monk
An 85mm 1.4 would have a blue badge on it so I don’t expect it to affordable. It would be incredible and highly sought after but it’s not going to be at a price point that will make a lot of people happy. Sony has taken on a pay to play marketing that has been working for them in the high end stuff so better start selling some pictures!
“85mm f1.4 (or even f1.2) if he had time (given by Sony) to do so. And I don’t know why but my instinct says he already designed the lens and that it’s ready for the market ”
You are just speculating. Of course 85mm is very probably, but judging by their previous lenses, it will be f/1.8 at $1000 or more. They are thinking about a couple years in the future when they will need to sell people a f/1.4.
55 1.4, without AF to make it smaller and more affordable. Et voilà. I’m happy.
We can hope that Zeiss will come out with those native, gorgeous, fast manual lenses to accompany the great Sony/Zeiss AF optics. To me, that’d make sense of the relationship, Sony produces the fast-ish 1.8 AF primes, and if you need something faster, Zeiss could supply the 1.4 manual focus lenses.
I don’t really understand many people’s obsession with 1.4 or even 1.2 primes. 1) we’d be looking at larger glass, which would leave people to complain (some sites already complain about the size of the 55mm) and 2) obviously the price wouldn’t be nearly attainable by most us mortals that don’t also make a living from photography.
I’ll admit, I’ve been pretty envious of Fuji’s excellent and fast primes, but at least to my amateur pixel-peeping eyes, the difference between a 1.8 and 1.4 prime lens isn’t all that much with regards to bokeh or added light-gathering capability. As long as the lens in question is sharp straight from 1.8, I’ll take the hit if it means a smaller and more affordable lens. Also, when mounting 1.8 lenses on a FF sensor, to me at least, I can’t see any need to get any shallower depth of field.
Now, I can understand having a wider aperture on a wider lens since you’re losing a telephoto len’s natural ability to isolate subjects, but an 85mm at 1.8 is good enough for me and most other hobbyists I would assume.
If there is something I’m missing here as to why a 1.4 lens would be much more desirable than a 1.8 lens, please fill me in. Are people just equating 1.8 with consumer plastic lenses from Nikon and Canon and can’t imagine paying 1k for an 1.8 lens even if it’s far better optically? Is that it??
It is as you put it “obsession”. I know people that wish for f1, but have problems with focus at 2.8. I own a f1.0 and rarely use it. I gravitate to my slower sharper lenses that get the job done. Three of my primary use lenses are, 21/2.8, 28/2.8 rangefinder, 24-105 f/4 SLR.
I think a 85 f2 would be wonderful, but the 1.4 optical design already exists, so it will probably will be in the lineup.
Also, fast glass attracts attention (marketing). So if Sony produces flagship lenses, they will sell more of the average lenses.
It’s the human condition; always wanting what we can’t have. And when it does become available it will no longer be wanted, it will be too expensive, the performance is not good enough, it’s too big, there is some esoteric feature missing etc etc. This is especially true for SAR posters.
Everything’s a tradeoff. f1.4 and f2 lenses will generally be sharper and better corrected than f1.2. I only ever use my f1.2 lenses when I need f1.2
I completely agree with what you say.
There needs to be both lenses corrected for fast apertures and ones corrected for slower apertures (typically with a smaller max aperture). Leica has been doing this for a long while with their Summilux vs. Summicron vs. Summarit vs. Elmar, etc.
When I stopped running after apertures and started looking more closely, I started preferring lenses that have better correction than just a larger aperture. Sadly, in the 35mm world, shallow dof and good IQ can’t exist together (south of 100mm). We have seen an exception or two very recently with the 50 Otus and 50 Art. Hopefully there will be more in the future.
Right now when I need both shallow DOF and IQ I go for larger formats.
Totally right Ben, my wish list of lenses that probably goes well with my A7 is:
24mm f/2
35mm f/1.4
85mm f/1.8
200mm f/2.8
And I hope that all of these lenses come in G brand
These Sony engineers (on the photo) don’t seem too tired to be honest. I thought Sony are working around the clock to populate the lens line-up. But these guys look like they are comming back from a holiday!
We’ll being Asian men they actually look a bit old and tired like they’ve been working around the clock. They should still look 21
You’re joking, right?
I’ve been waiting for this lens but it’s been killing me to hold off not buying the 55 mm. Always loved the 85 versus the 50.
Are there no other landscape photographers exited about an A mount F4 ultra wide zoom? I can’t wait! For landscapes I could care less about F2.8. Give me a sharp F16 Zeiss at a more affordable price and I will be thrilled!
f2.8 can be good for landscape also, such as the milkyway and northern light. you almost never need to go to F16 for landscape with a UWA lens.. f8-f11 Is the sweet spot without to much diffraction.
F/16 is fine if all you want is around 5-12 megapixels.
Photographers use tilt to solve that very problem
You’d think the people at Sony Imaging would be able to take a picture with everyone in focus … geez …
That’s what you will get if it’s f1.4
At least the executive’s in focus
Bring it on Sony, even if it’s 85 1.8, it will be very useful focal length for portraits.
And please stop the Zeiss rubbish, just give us good and well priced Sony lenses.
Would love to see a G series A-Mount Macro right now the only quality macro lens native to the a-mount is sigmas. Which is either 105mm or 150mm. Would love to see a 150mm or 180mm Macro lens from sony.
lens designers look a bit shy in front of the lens, don’t they 😉
I understand there is a lot of manufacturing and materials engineering that goes into lenses today, but I assumed the actual optical design for the last 50 years was done by computers.
What these designers have to do is design a lens for these cameras that is not overpriced. Pedestrian lenses are way too expensive, all of which is another contributing factor to the demise of a once grand hobby.
Yes, let’s call it what it is. We are not making a living at it, nor are we artists making a living at it. It’s a hobby, and these days a way expensive one. With plenty of other competing ways in today’s world to have a little fun in what little spare time there is.
Take a long term view, lens designers! Design affordable products. If your product people are the ones pricing it so high, yell at them.
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I do not mind paying for top quality FE 85mm. Aperture f1.8 or f1.4 does not matter. Zeiss or Sony, it must have top quality optics to match FE 55mm. A 85mm (non macro) is a must have for portrait photography!