As I told you many times in these weeks Sony has a big announcement in early May. There will be definitely a new A77 successor but I was confident Sony would announce more stuff. And well, Mark Weir from Sony just confirmed new FE lenses will be announced “very soon”. And I think some A-mount lenses will come too. But that’s still not SR5 confirmed yet. Mark also says some “unique cameras will come too! These are some key info he shares on the BH video posted on top:
38:00 min Mark confirms Sony will launch very fast FE lenses.
39:40 min Mark confirms we won’t have long to wait to see the new lenses! And he said the people who makes Sony suggestions about lenses will be very happy 🙂
47:30 min Mark answers about the light leak issue
54:50 min Mark says Sony wants to make cameras that have been never made before. And you will see more of that shortly!
1:14:00 min Mark says they will be releasing more “Servo-based” zoom lenses.
This means I have now seriously go back to work and contact all sources to try to get some SR5 rumors! And you readers may help me to keep an eye on forums and sites to see if we can catch some info about the next Sony announcement! This is going to be an exciting time once again here on SAR!
Reminder: These are the new Samyang lenses announced today (two of them for the Sony A7-A7r):
8mm f/2.8 UMC Fish-Eye as Sony E mount (Click here).
10mm f/2.8 ED AS NCS CS lens as Sony E mount (Click here) and as Sony A mount (Click here).
12mm f/2.0 NCS CS lens as Sony E mount (Click here).
8mm T3.1 Cine UMC Fish-Eye II lens as Sony E mount (Click here).
24mm f/1.4 ED AS IF UMC lens as Sony E-mount (Click here). Compatible with A7 series.
35mm f/1.4 AS UMC lens as Sony E-mount (Click here). Compatible with A7 series.
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Any chance of a Sony 200mm f4 macro lens for a mount?
Nope.
A very ‘minuscule’ chance. (‘minuscule’ because it’s a ‘macro’ lens… get it). Sounded better in my head. 🙂
Also, we need 100mm f2.8 Macro for E-mount.
I am so so tired of the Emount now!! SONY give us some A-mount Camera’s
Something to replace the A99
PS i think people r mistaken, i am not saying this to the admin 😀 the admin is awesome who gives us all this news 😀 and i love him for that 😛
i am just tired on Sony focusing so much on E mount only 🙂
Now since you wrote this with big letters maybe Sony will actually hear you…
Let me also give it a try : SONY GIVE US MOOOOOAAAAR E-MOUNT LENSES FOR THE A7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really hope this helps Fahad, thanks for screaming with me, together you and i are strong. i really feel a connection here.
Peace out bro, peace out….
🙂
Thank you for taking a joke 😉
mmm let me think maybe there isn’t any , would you prefer if admin made stuff up ?
hay, i editied my post, i want not saying this to the admin, the admin is awesome 😀
Dude, check yourself. The A99 is relatively new, in terms of Full Frame DSLR life cycles.
sure thanks for your information 🙂
more e-mount news please 😀
still unsure about getting the A7 but with a certain lens you might get me to buy one :3
I think the normal APS-C e-mount is done for Sony. Expect no new APS-C e-mount lenses for a long, long time.
Which lens?
unique camera = z shift sensor
Nope it’s the barrycam
The barrycam wont be out till 2015.
54mp stacked sensor.
That’s quite a line-up of unfortunate facial hair.
Harsh , but true lol
The only problem with “very fast ” lenses will be the price, Sony charges £650 for an F2.8 35mm compared to say the Canon 35mm F2IS { both faster and with image stabilization} at £450 or the 2 stops faster and excellent Sigma 35mm F1.4 at £610, Wonder what Sony think they can charge for “very fast ” lenses
I’m not saying it’s right, but you just can’t compare DSLR lenses to mirrorless when it comes to price. Mirrorless lenses are simply more expensive – whether that is market driven or down to higher costs and lower economies of scale, I don’t know.
I do not mind paying more for more my 55mm is worth its price compared to the competition. The 35mm not so much, either lens mentioned by Bob are an excellent option .There is no doubt that as lenses of the same focal length get slower it becomes easier and easier to design them. The Canon is faster of very high image quality,and has an IS system built in. The Sigma is a full two stops faster, very good wide open,and superb corner to corner at F2.8
Not true! Simple most mirrorless lenses doesn’t have any lens alternative from sigma-tamron or something thats why price is higher, it’s just marketing feature, not real reason to sell-buy 35/2.8 for 1000$ of 55/1.8 for 1300$ crazy sony and zeiss…
What is not true?
But the ‘new’ Sony has been very reasonable with their pricing over the past year – not just with their camera bodies, but with their (non Zeiss) e-mount lenses. I think there’s hope!
This guy says they specifically made 24-70 f/4, not f/2.8, because they wanted a compact 24-70 FF lens with OSS.
So, Sony indeed views FE as a compact system, not a replacement for A-Mount, at least for now.
Saying they wanted a compact lens is not the same as saying they want a compact system. Sony can make big lenses or small lenses. The key here is flexibility – you can have a small A7 / 35mm f2.8 combo for a very light and easy to carry walkaround camera, or you can attach big lenses that compromise weight and size advantages.
It certainly looks like they’re prioritising size over speed, which strongly suggests they want to keep the system compact… There’s always the option of using an adapter for large fast zooms…
Though… of course the A-mount fast zooms don’t have OSS.
They don’t need it, because they have a in-body stabilization system, which is the better system. The in-body stabilization systems are compatible with every A-Mount lens that has been produced since 1985.
But that makes them not such a good choice for the A7/7r.
It doesn’t make sense to use large DSLR lenses on a CSC. Just keep your DSLR for the larger zoom lenses.
He said it was so it could have OSS. He also said they would be coming out with faster lenses as well. The choice to go small was about which lenses to do first, not about which lenses to do at all.
No.. as he said himself. On launch they went for lens sizes that complemented the form factor of the camera, and Fast lenses are on the they.
It is really only the 24 – 70mm that could be faster. By the time you get to the 70 – 200mm your Dof at f4 is so short anyway it’s not a real disadvantage. With optical view finders, faster lenses help you focus with a brighter image in the view finder. Not a problem on an EVF.
The longer focal length, the more narrow DOF you get, but at the same time the longer distance to the object, the broader DOF you get. To achieve narrow DOF at a distance, you need a very wide aperture (like the famous Zeiss 135 f/1.8), or a very long lens (like those 600mm they use to shoot football).
While what you say does make sense mathematically. Visually and in the real world it is not. I can suggest the following video link which explains this better than I can (view from 15:15min onwards). http://provideocoalition.com/freshdv/story/video_tutorial_understanding_depth_of_field/
But a long story short. You would think the at a given aperture. A 50mm lens with a subject to distance measurement of 5m would have the same Dof as a 100mm lens at 10m (giving you a subject the same size in frame in both instances. But due to the large difference in perspective of each lens the 100mm has the effect of rendering the background radically more out of focus. even though mathmatically they are the same.
Hence f4 on the 70 – 200mm will have a nice short Dof comparatively.
At least for me, in real world it does. I tried shooting reportage with Minolta Beercan, and at 210mm f/4, when shooting from a distance, it does not sufficiently separate people from each other.
Sony needs to announce a “BOKEH” lens to compete against the Fuji F1.2. Can’t wait to see how they make it small and compact as in order not to be attacked by the got a be small crowd.
Well there is a rumoured 85mm f1.8, which I’m looking forward to. I’m sure it will compete in terms of bokeh.
Sony has 135 STF. There is nothing that can beat it in terms of bokeh.
Would love to see this in E-mount. Using CDAF you could actually make it an AF lens–not a quick AF lens but an AF lens. Phase detection won’t work because the internal filters throw it off but contrast is contrast.
The STF is meant to be used manually. Just use focus peaking.
Based on the design, I don’t think this will ever be an AF lens. I met a group of Sony reps recently and showed them the lens. None of them had ever heard of it. Sad
That just about sums Sony up. It’s why they constantly fail and will continue to underwhelm the dSLR market.
Amen 135 STF is the greatest bokeh lens ever made. And it’s pretty compact.
Is the STF a manual focus lens?
It is, but it doesn’t take long to get the hang of it and the results are stunning.
But not for night photography, its a T4.5, and manual focus
I’d stick to the 135mm f/1.8 Zeiss for night photography.
what is the real difference btwn the fuji and the 55mm 1.8 ? They cost about the same only the sony is FF so I would think the 55 competes very well with the fuji.
The difference is that the 55 is much better…
I hope so i just ordered one now i am broke..lol
Minolta 58mm f1.2
Yeah but being a smaller sensor it is not reaaalllyyy f1.2…
WHERE THE HELL IS MY ULTRA WIDE ANGLE ZOOM LENS????????
Where the hell were your parents when they were supposed to be teaching you manners? 😉
where the hell were sony managers parents when they were supposed to teach them manners and good business practices?
no wide angle no go. wothless piece of shit system. with other focal lengths you could use an adapter but not with wide angle. also there’s already the 70-200.
if there was an FE ultra wide zoom I would sell all my glass and bodys and just get the A7.
Uhm…you can adapt wide angle lenses without a problem. Go get a Canon EF Metabones adapter and a 17-40mm f/4.
that is stupid. then I would lose all the advantage that the sony FE system could give me. not even mention at a much higher price. Also doesn’t have AF and IS.
It would be a lot smarter just to get a canon body and that lenses.
It’s much better for me just to keep my D610 with 16-35mm F4 VR (ALSO THERE’S LOADS WIDE ANGLE LENS OF OPTIONS). Not only it has a better ovrall image quality it also is a LOT cheaper gives me VR and it’s almost the same size and weight.
that would make a bit of sense if with a telephoto lens since it’s already very large and heavy it wouldn’t be that much of an hassle to have an adapter.
Actually you would have AF and IS with a Metabones adapter. You want a lens that is big by design, just adapt one.
no retard. I won’t want a big lens by design. As it was explained in the video you don’t need to have big lens. example 10-18mm f4 oss is a very small lens compared to others aps-c wide angle zooms that don’t even have IS.
As for the AF it only works with some canon or sony lens which sucks. Also AF is a lot slower than using native lens. It’s an expensive piece of crap solution.
UWA zoom is the only thing which will partially redeem this mistake of the system. 18mm flange for 44mm image diameter is simply wrong for everything else.
Of course you will see color shifts and unusually long minimal focusing distances, but at least THIS lens could be smaller than DSLR counterparts.
Why is it a mistake of a system just because it doesn’t appeal to you personally?
My personality has nothing to do with that mistake of a system, geometry and optics does. 18mm flange for 44mm image circle simply creates the angles of light which, when falling on a sensor with color filters, produce color shifts. Plus rear element being close to the sensor increases minimal focusing distance. To avoid those two problems, you have to make EACH lens longer – instead of having a longer flange to begin with. If you don’t understand what I am saying, just draw a lens and a flange and a color filter to scale.
It’s really hard to guess where you have placed your lenses. Do you have any hints in which direction we should guess or search?
At 1:14:00 (ish) he notes that they will be releasing more “Servo-based” zoom lenses. I personally effing hate them… but there’s a bit of a scoop.
Missed to include that in my post! Thansk for reminding me to it!
Great work again Andra! And thanks for showing us the timetable.
Servo-based zooms are probably going to be designed with an eye on the market for video work. There’s more to e-mount than pure still cameras.
I’d love a nice 70/400 f4 (A mount) with “internal zoom”: like the Nikon 200/400 f4.
I’m so looking forward for these new A mount FF coming.
Glad to see Sony head in the right direction. The future is clearly mirrorless, and their advantage right now is the E mount and FE lenses. The best way to realize such an advantage is by focusing the majority of their resources in that area. They have never been ahead of the competition with the A mount, so the quicker they divest in that, the better. It may be difficult news for some to take, but Sony really is making the better business choice here.
Right, better business choice is too alienate and anger your most loyal fans. With all the Internet peer-to-peer marketing, that works well.
Sony… what about bring back the Minolta 200mm f/4 Macro G with SSM and nanocoating for a reasonable price?
Reasonable price is the hard part. Hardest one I think.
Sigma make a fantastic 180 F2.8 macro with OS !!
I hope you are joking. The original Minolta goes for an insane amount in used condition. Imagine the Sony markup: cheaper quality housing and 1.5 times the Minolta new msrp.
I want a 5N styled FF e-mount body with IBIS!
PLEASE !
In a 5N-sized body? Okay.
A7/A7R need a 35/1.4, 85/1.4, 24/2. And raw lossless via firmware update
and 135 1.8, or even 2.8.
I just want a 35mm F/1.4, and 20mm F/1.8, and an updated 24-70mm Zeiss for my A-Mount, that includes; weather-sealing, SSM II, and multiple FLD glass elements.
50mm f/0 please.
And a 12-800mm f/1.0 that weighs 0.25kg with 13 stop stabilization 😉
Sony has great system NEX. But lenses chooise is limited. We need 1.4 lense for NEX cameras, as 50 1.4 35 1.4 . It’s about time with release of A6000 to bring PRO level lenses with NEX system. The only thing holding me back of getting A6000 – lack of Pro lenses. 50 1.8 and 35 1.8 good but nothing more!
Yeah and a 85mm f 1.4 and APS-C 70-200mm Zeiss
APSC SEL 85/1.8 OSS and 70-200/2.8 or 50-150/2.8 OSS G will be enough. Fuck this zeiss for its crazy price! SEL 50/1.8 OSS is simple sony lens even not G and quality combo is very good for competitors…
I personally think Sony will not release anymore E mount lenses for NEX system. They put all forces for their A7 and FE lenses and forgot about NEX users. I think they believe that having 2 @fast lenses@
as 35 1.8 and 50 1.8 is enaugh for us. And this is pitty. This lenses as nowhere close to canon or nikon dsrl lenses in terms of bokeh. I need NEX to be able to capture nice bokeh portraituire and i can;t
Yes it is! For bokeh I use some MF lenses but it’s pretty difficult to use in conditions I like to shoot. Thats why I think about to buy another system and fill sony holes with existed lenses – Samsung NX300+85/1.4 SSA make me happy
I’m really looking for a new rx with aps-c sensor. The new canon g1x mark ii didn’t convince me and since Sony can do it better, I hope that they will have new cameras in rx line soon
I just want a freakin’ a99 fireware that fixes bugs and not just lens support! Grrr….I have a feeling that fireware update is coming in the form of a camera, and I suspect my gullible self will be all over it. Sigh…I loath me
MY DREAM: new “a7000” camera that competes with Oly EM1 and Fuji XT1, but using the new super fast AF. *Weather sealed,* great EVF, tri-navi, touch screen etc. And also some new *weather sealed* E-mount lenses to go with it, including my 2 most wanted: 16-70 f2.0 – f.4 IS Zoom, and 100mm f2.8 Macro IS. But these things will probably not happen. :-/ Or maybe… 🙂
100/2.8 Macro could, but 16-70/2-4 is extremely doubtful, considering the size of A-Mount SAL1650, which is a 2.8 constant, and E-Mount SEL1670Z, which is a 4.0 constant.
You are right. But it was just my dream.
Yessss…..fast FE lenses come on! I’m already getting excited from this 🙂 Daddy wants a fast 85mm…
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85 f/1.8, 24 f/2.8, 100mm f/2.8 macro just you wait.
My favorite portrait lens for ol’ Nikon F always was 105/2,5!
FE 105 would be even nicer than 85?
Yes!!! 24mm and an 85mm please
A new RX with the 50MP sensor found in PhaseOne/Hasselblad/Pentax will be great.
lol Just casualy walking arround making billbord size prints .
Haha.. yeah, well it makes sense to me because RX1 had higher sync speed than DSLRs because of leaf shutter, which btw is one the main reasons for people dishing out for MF. But imagine a MF camera without a mount… that’ll allow for cheaper manufacturing so I imagine a MF compact at $5000 price point would be possible. I would pay $5gs for it
Great idea! A 50mp medium format CMOS sensor equipped Sony RX camera with an 80mm Carl Zeiss branded Planar lens at f/2.0 would make all of us digital wedding photographers able to compete with the Contax + 120 film + Richard Photo Lab obsessed hipster/Gen Y crowd 🙂
Heck, make it equipped with a Zeiss Planar 80mm f/1.8 with a leaf shutter and it’d been the reigning king of bokeh, even shallower than the mamiya 80mm f/1.9 manual focus lens that’s available for the mamiya 645 and phase one digital 645 bodies.
I’d pay
… $5000 for that camera for sure!
“very fast FE lens” sounds like 85/1.4 to me. But is it only me? I want a pancake lens for FE……
Pancake for FE can only be 18-20mm, slow and produce insane color shifts even at f/2.8. With the current optical and sensor technology that is.
A 30mm f2 pancake (similar the Samsung) would be nice
The Sony moron lies too much. His 35mm is a half the size of FF f/2.8 primes? Have he seen Canon 40/2.8, an FF lens, which is HALF the size? Or does he want to compare with lenses 1-2 stops faster?
No 24-70/2.8 with stabilization he says? Is he not aware about Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD SP (Model A007)?
These are lies I caught in just 1 minute of watching. Sheesh!
I guess you just wanted to do some trolling around, but …
First of all the Sony 35mm lens stays much closer to the sensor and with the A7/r it is still smaller in ALL dimensions than the a Canon 5D with the 40mm pankake!!!
http://camerasize.com/compact/#312.345,487.394,ha,t
Secondly you are comparing it with a 40mm lens that also stays much further from the sensor which is much much easier to make compact and of course is narrower.
Whatever the reasons (of which I am well aware – E-mount is simply suboptimal for FF), Canon 40 IS much smaller than the Sony FE35, and not the other way around as this guy said – making him a liar. And me, as always, factually correct. 😉
hater. Someone needs to learn some manners.
A lie is told with the intent to deceive, which is different than saying something which could be proven to not be completely factually accurate. Whether or not the 40mm is larger or smaller, mark may not know the dimensions of every single lens made by a competitor.
Honest people don’t work in marketing. They are hired to deceive.
I am hired to capture photographs for marketing & communication departments every week. I am not deceptive. I cannot say everyone is honest in the various marketing departments, but I can say that not all of them are dishonest.
And the fact that the statement was made in the context of “compared to much faster lenses” . The C lens is still a 2.8 and Another focal lenght. Instead, compare to most 35/1.4 and the picture looks different.
But , yes, there is one 3rd party manufacturer that offers a stabilized 24-70/2.8 .
Hope the new servo lenses will be compatible with the FS100/700. The 18-105 was a huge fiasco in that regard…
for camcorders maybe, its flawless for the sony nex cameras with 0 distortion in video.
Remember…We’re talking about Expensive High-end camcorders. Sony NEX cameras will never cost what a FS100 or FS700 cost. So it’s a huge fiasco given it’s a lens aimed towards videographers.
85 1.8, 135 2 and that’s all I need
Man I don’t know. The a7 looks hot like a model but I bet the sex is like doing it with a cardboard display. Its as sterile as can be and operating it is a real rectal exam- nothing but a pain in the ass. Too small and dainty. The sensor is the only redeeming quality for this thing. Even then, I can’t bring myself to own a toy camera. Even a Sony rep today at a sony style store told me they were more geared toward your average consumer. I tried holding it but lost interest after hitting the shutter and listening to that god aweful sound. I think my a100 was quieter than that. Its got a grip only a midget could love. Total fashion accessory for yuppies.
Watch the video and check out some of the amazing images captured by the two pros, you may change your mind. Obviously they think is a great tool for doing the work they do, which is photography.
I’m pretty sure Sony’s paying them (they’re not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts), and the entire video felt like a cheap sales pitch. The pictures were excellent, but I’ve seen much better pictures taken by members of this forum using older Alpha DSLR/SLT cameras.
I’ve owned one, and returned it after three weeks, after it became abundantly clear it wasn’t a DSLR replacement.
IMO the best photos I’ve seen so far were taken by A850/A900 users.
Yes and this is seriously my point. These pics shown were completely unimpressive to say the least. Your standard “I’m in a foreign country- look at the poor kid” effin pics. The only takeaway is two things. If you have lens lust and a hard on for adaptors its great. Also, the advantages in terms of video are evident as well. But so what? Dslr has the ergonomic advantage, faster lenses, and slt can do video just as well. Am I the only one who thinks Sony’s abandonment of alpha is simply going to push users to Canikon and not e mount?
Once the new Alphas hit the market we’ll all probably forget about the A7/A7r squeakier toys for a time. We’ll continue to associate A7/A7r usage with weirdo photographers undergoing some kind of strange artistic image crisis. Hopefully most of them will come to their senses and drop them.
Sony hasn’t abandoned the A-Mount, they’ve just put it on hold long enough to give the A7/A7r a head start.
Sony’s fear of the A77, and A99 revisions severely cannibalizing A7/A7r sales, is likely the reason for the delay. Which makes sense because mirror-less adoptions rates are dropping, and for good reason.
Stick with your bricks, stay clear from technological advances, they don’t want you near them.
You might want to consider one of Nokia’s new photo-centric smartphones. They’d probably work a lot better for you.
Oh? Downgrade from aps-c interchangeable lenses to 1″- short integrated module? I don’t want to be like you, who clings to the pentaprism and redundant mirror that doesn’t have to be there.
You’ve obviously missed my many comments on SAR that I could care less about mirror versus mirrorless. If SLT gets replaced by mirrorless tech I’m fine with it as long as it works and doesn’t chuck Sony’s a-mount lenses over AF incompatibilities or dump the mount entirely.
For the e-mount acolytes constantly thumping their chests for tiny for the sake of tiny you cats should be pushing Sony to M43s since they could obviously shrink bodies even tinier with tinier sensors. Especially considering Sony’s mirrorless tiny for the sake of tiny strategy has been to chuck anything and everything like IBIS worshipping at the alter of teensy tiny, ergonomics be damned.
Since the e-mount fanboys obsess over what they carry, buy a cellphone so you don’t have to fill 2 pockets with photo equipment. In fact, one teensy tiny bigot the other day on SAR actually was cheerleading going the cellphone route talking up some fashion photographer he knew who was indeed using one for his professional shoots.
What comments I haven’t missed are you repeatedly bashing E-mount and calling them teeny or tiny or squeaky or whatever under every piece of news these days. You have become very annoying, like how Barry was when he brought up 54mp under every post. Only you’re even worse than he was, since he was hoping for the future to come soon, but you’re just here obstructing progress.
Sony should be eventually replacing all A-mount lenses with E-mount lenses just because they could be smaller. Of course the setting of this should be that Sony dumps the strategy where it cripples E-mount lenses in the name of size reduction(which seeing what’s been done to the 70-200/4 and 24-70/4, isn’t working), and actually shrink the primes to the size range of rangefinder lenses, like Contax G’s 35/2. It obviously can be done, they’re either rushed or not trying hard enough.The useless gap between the A-mount flange and E-mount should be nothing more than a transitional defect, inavoidable as the upgrade to mirrorless commences.
The a7/r’s out, it’s already telling you that Sony will not sacrifice sensor size for further reduction of volume. Stop ranting just because it happens that your hand isn’t grown to fit the camera.
And all Sony’s DSLR users will buy Nikon and Canon. Great marketing strategy genius. Your completely retarded to even suggest something as stupid as Sony dumping the third largest Global (yes there is a world outside of Asia) DSLR market share for a mirror-less camera mount.
It’s a transition you dimwit. It will happen gradually in a duration of years with transitional products. I’m certainly the genius if the reference point is you.
No its not.
Sony’s plan is to diversify it product line. They will continually produce a better A-Mount for DSLR users, and a better E-Mount for CSC users. DSLR users and CSC users are two completely different target audiences, with entirely different sets of wants, and needs. Those of us with business degrees already understand this, so we don’t sound like complete asses.
You sound like a troll
Nice, a business degree. I’m sure the European that messed Sony up had a business degree too. Good for you.
You can’t fit many of your supposed “technological advances” into a small camera body. Larger full featured cameras like Sony SLT A99 will remain the obvious choice for those unwilling to accept any compromises.
Are you too small or physically weak to handle a real camera? Maybe you need stilts and a gym pass.
Larger full featured, of course. I’d much welcome a 50% larger a9 that takes 2 batteries with 5-axis IBIS and dual Bionz X. What I’m opposed to is stubbornly refusing to let go of the mirror so that there’s a big hole in the camera that essentially does nothing but let air and light though and makes the camera uselessly thicker, and making bloated bodies to accomodate the gorilla hands of some people’s, like yours?
Why? SLT cameras are evolving at a much faster pace, SLTs are large enough to carry larger more complex features, processors, and RAM. The new translucent mirrors are down to 20% the future will be less than 10%. The dedicated AF-Sensor gives them a massive speed advantage that will only get faster. Their frame buffers are growing in size.
When the mirror is finally removed Sony is going integrate Z-Shift into the DSLM cameras making E-Mount ownership pointless.
You say it like they squeeze in features to fit the body size? Shouldn’t it be the other way around? Adding features and either packing them denser or making the room? A mirrorless couldn’t have more complex features, processors, and RAM? Is the a6000 not fast enough for you? NEX-7 already had 10fps,they deliberately kept the feature off a7/r probably for extra upgrade room in future models, buffers take almost no space at all, memory density seems to be what’s increasing the fastest.
How could you be certain Z-shift is even coming? Let’s just say it is, it would still come to E-mount, because it has nothing to do with the mirror. Macro needs extra distance between the rear element and the sensor, you go over infinity if the sensor moves the other way, up front to where the mirror is now. You only need minor movement if Z-shift is for focusing and doesn’t involve the space taken up by the mirror. So the obvious choice is to have it on something that could add extra back room instead of front room. If you add Z-shift to A-mount, it would go really thick, like MF thick. Why would somebody want an FF or even APS-C body that’s as thick as MF?What were you thinking…
Seek therapy, you obviously have serious issues.
Nice, you’re the one ranting on every post along with earl and actually confused about which way the sensor should shift, and you’re suggesting therapy to me.
Whatever you’re on, don’t smoke it anymore. It’s bad for your health. Some health advice from me.:-)
“Denial is more than a river in Egypt.”
Right on the spot. It’s also the river responsible for carving out the sulci of your brain.
So what you are saying is that the SLT is still a compromise (as in your plan they get rid of it) and that in the future the A-mount camera will morph into the FE mount camera…Bizarre…
No, they’ll likely be some kind of hybrid in the future.
What is it with you guys and your obsession with doing weights…Its all a little bit brokeback mountain eh?!? What do you think you are, Alpha males…..
The A99 might be as advanced as it might want to be, but those with big hands are long using a D800, 5D or D3/4… For those who want something they like to carry around (I never used my 5D Mark I, always carried the Nex-5), use any, I mean, really any available full frame lens, there is only one choice. That is the A7(R).
And the funny thing is, there are so many (nice) A-mount lenses around, and most are actually full frame. But only the A77, which is APS-C, sold a little. Already now there are more A7 users on flickr than all of A99, A900, and A850 together. I wish A-mount for fullframe good luck, because actually I also like it. But you couldn’t even call it a come back. But better late then never.
Did I mention I use my A77 almost as much as the A99. I’m a serious A77 fan. After looking at the stats I’m now considering a RX100 purchase.
Its good to see the RX 100, and A77 on top, with the A65 in eighth place. Actually the A77, and A65 are the A-Mounts strongest sellers. The A77 and SAL1650 is an excellent combo. The DT 35mm, 50mm are stellar performers too.
So what your saying is the A7 (and every other E-Mount) is currently being trounced by an three year old APS-C A-Mount, and a compact point and shoot camera on Flickr.
http://www.flickr.com/cameras/sony/
Sony’s A-Mount Full Frame’s won’t become popular until they sell for prices that are inline with the current market trends. The A99 is still $600.00 ($2299.99CDN) over priced, it should be sold for less than $1699.99.
If Sony’s smart they should introduce a 36mp version at the $2299.99 price point.
DSLR format has no bearing on how fast a lens can be. There is no technical reason why Sony will not continue to roll out faster lenses…The EVF means that you don’t need faster lenses to give you a brighter viewfinder image. So no point dropping a extra grand on a lens that is soft as a babies bum wide open…
Why waste money on a under featured tiny camera with poor ergonomics. If you like the EVF so much you should have bought an A99 so you could use more than three lenses.
You must have GIANT hands…Each system has it advantages and disadvantages…As Sony is showing, with the A7 and now the A6000, you no longer need door stop cameras to produce the goods. That will only continue….It’s called inevitability… I feel a nervousness in your voice about A mount 🙂
No, I don’t have giant hands. Yours must be puny. If my a65 is too heavy for you there are 1 pound dumbells little girls use to tone up that might help. ;^)
What so many e-mount fanboys who get excited over killing off the a-mount need to realize is there’s a diversity of thought. Just because you prefer something doesn’t mean it’s absolutely the only way to think. Don’t forget, Canikon is only creeping into mirrorless and they’re wiping the floor with Sony.
When I first looked at Sony, I looked at an a33. It was noticeably smaller than my a65. So, if size is an issue, there’s no doubt Sony can slim down their DSLR bodies without going overboard and ruining ergonomics like they did with the NEX/axxx line-up which just absolutely sucks, IMHO.
Dude you shouldn’t assume things…. if you look at my posting above you will see that on the contrary I will also be upgrading to the new A mount when it arrives…It’s more to do with the assumption that some A mount “fanboys” have the A-mount is superior because it is larger (dumbbells to tone up. What are you 12?)..This is completely outmoded thinking… The A7 ergonomics are bang on and currently the best Sony image quality available..the A6000 has the best Sony autofocus available…Those are facts…So yes inevitable.
Actually, the a-mount is superior because it’s larger. They’re not a “doorstop” but far better ergonomically. The other problem with the e-mount is to make it teensy tiny for the sake of tiny Sony not only sacrificed good handling but IBIS as well.
No, I suggest you use 1 pound dumbells like pre-teen girls so you’ll be able to handle the “GIANT” “doorstop” you apparently plan to purchase.
BTW, I get different strokes for different folks so I’m fine with Sony supporting multiple formats. What’s sent me over the edge with the e-mount fanboy crowd is their feverish demands to kill off the a-mount because they view it all as a zero-sum game and don’t care how many a-mount owners are screwed if they get more product development attention.
The A-Mount is Sony’s Flagship Camera Mount. All of Sony’s major technological advances have been incorporated into A77, A99 revisions, and will likely be standard in the new A-Mount camera bodies (A88, A1).
Why? generally people who buy the A7 and not going to buy an A99 and vice versa?? That make no sense…
Yes we all know that the new A mount will have features the FE mount won’t have. Or not for a while. Which is why it exists. Or perhaps more logically in the near future will be aimed more at the motion cross over market. Which is what I am looking forward to in the new camera
As you know Sony uses IBIS to allow use of older minolta glass with stabilization. That is not really an issues for a new format so they made it OSS. There are arguments for and against each system. In the end is doesn’t matter which…
But the persistent idea that a larger camera makes a better camera is an anachronism. The new mirrorless cameras show that you don’t need space to fit technology. You don’t need space to gain performance. The only reason for space is the Mirror/SLT box and the flange distance required.
In all honesty Sony probably will kill off A mount eventually and probably wean everyone onto the FZ mount over time as it is more adaptable than the A mount, And all other camera lines will be FE/E…I’m not being a fan boy…just logical
Not really. I’m just smart enough to see through the mirror-less marketing blitz, that your so obviously blinded by. Full Sized cameras (DSLR,DSLT,DSLM) will remain the choice of professionals. CSC are geared to the enthusiast crowd.
and film will always be better than digital…
Mirror-less camera adoption offers no financial technological benefit for the average semi-pro or professional photographer currently using a FF DSLR other than weight savings.
We switched to DSLRS in order reduce our processing costs, and digital’s increased versatility. More importantly we were able to transition to digital without having to buy new lenses. The switch cost us between $2000 to $4000 for the new digital body.
If we had been forced to buy new lenses that transition would have been mush slower, and cost prohibitive for most photographers. Most would be using film today.
The average lens library was worth valued well over 10K back then, now its closer to 20K.
Mirror-less single largest disadvantage is its lack of native backward compatibility with current lens libraries. Adapters will not suffice. As a result they will remain a small/niche segment for professionals for the foreseeable future.
Also current mirror-less cameras offer little additional advantages over current DSLRs other than their size. Most are crippled by small sensors poor AF systems, short battery life, and the only Full Frame CSC available is plagued with quality control issues.
yes yes as you have posted before and would have made sense a couple of years ago…But time moves on.
“We switched to DSLRS in order reduce our processing costs, and digital’s increased versatility. More importantly we were able to transition to digital without having to buy new lenses. The switch cost us between $2000 to $4000 for the new digital body If we had been forced to buy new lenses that transition would have been mush slower, and cost prohibitive for most photographers. Most would be using film today”…..No photographers switched to keep their clients pure and simple. It’s called the cost of doing business. Go cry me a river
“The average lens library was worth valued well over 10K back then, now its closer to 20K.”..Thanks for failing to adjust for inflation
“Mirror-less single largest disadvantage is its lack of native backward compatibility with current lens libraries. Adapters will not suffice. As a result they will remain a small/niche segment for professionals for the foreseeable future.”…New young photographers coming through don’t care. Lenses are getting sharper better faster and cheaper all the time. Legacy glass on adapters work perfectly fine if you want them
“Also current mirror-less cameras offer little additional advantages over current DSLRs other than their size. Most are crippled by small sensors poor AF systems, short battery life, and the only Full Frame CSC available is plagued with quality control issues”…..You’ve been asleep a lot lately haven’t you. As Sony themselves have pointed out. They had a leap in Autofocus technology between the A7 and A6000 and that will just continue. So that just doesn’t hold water dude.
Apparently you haven’t been to a College that teaches photography, ever, and your now talking out of you backside. A Canon, Nikon is a course requirement.
New photographers are buying Canon’s EOS 5D Mark III, because its the industry standard.
New photographers are buying Canon’s EOS 5D Mark III, because its what their instructors use.
New photographers are buying Canon’s EOS 5D Mark III, because they get a massive student discount.
New Students aren’t stupid enough to buy a niche camera with a very limited selection of lenses.
The A7 is a niche camera and will never become an industry standard.
If the EOS 5D Mark IV or V arrives with a EVF the Sony’s A7 will be all but forgotten.
Well yeah I guess a degree in the subject doesn’t count…The funny thing is I shot on film as did many of my fellow students…haha..classic!
“The A7 is a niche camera and will never become an industry standard.”…So what you are saying is that there is no market for EVF 35mm cameras…And your shooting with Sony because??????
“New Students aren’t stupid enough to buy a niche camera with a very limited selection of lenses.”…So by that logic nobody is going to shoot with Sony at all then???
“If the EOS 5D Mark IV or V arrives with a EVF the Sony’s A7 will be all but forgotten.”…So all Canon has to do is bring out an EVF..and its all over…Man yours a Canon marketers dream!! Depressing..But a dream…Also by the time that happens Sony will no doubt have the next version of the A7 in the pipeline. So no worries there as the next 5D is at least a couple of years off.
Thankfully you are talking nonsense. Shooters use what suits them. I was shooting Canon. But changed because the A7 has better image quality than the 5D mark 3 and I like the EVF style of shooting. Clients like the camera. They are generally not as stuck in there ways as old photographers…
You right shooters have spoken an 82% are DSLR users with the majority using Canon or Nikon products. Sony DSLR usage is shrinking daily because of their lack of attention to the A-Mount. So the both the A-Mount, and E-Mount are essentially niche product lines now.
Oh well the other 18% will just have to keep “struggling” on…
Nice edit…
“New Students aren’t stupid enough to buy a niche camera with a very limited selection of lenses.”
Funny you say that. I know three photography students who owned Canon 5D.. And are buying/have bought the A7 and love it. 🙂
Crippled by small sensor???
What if it’s a choice that you make that you go with APSC and don’t want full frame?
I am using 18-200mm lens on my NEX-7, show me an equivalent lens in full frame that can be viably carried around all day anywhere you go…
Poor AF?
Have you seen the A6000’s AF performance? Pretty damn good I’d say.
Plagued by quality control issues?
Really? This just shows you have no credibility…
The A7’s light leak issues that you are referring to are not quality control issues but down to the tolerances all manufacturers use and it’s something that all manufacturers have on their models.
But Sony at least acknowledged that for a certain type of photography (a very niche small portion of photogs) the tolerances are not tight enough and are looking into it.
Talk to me when you own a real camera. Until then buzz off fucktard.
Classy…
Thanks for showing us the real you.
BRWAT I totally agree with you. I am simply a 57 years old hobbyst passioned now with the artistic side of photography. My first cam was a MINOLTA XG2 and my last one the A77 with many good A lenses but after a day carrying my back pack I allways last thinking about changing my system. IMHO today I could get an OLY EM1 with a pair of MZUIKO PRO ZOOMS plus an RX1R and cover everything at very good if not excellent IQ with less than half the weight and bulk and if you want or need more specialty lenses you could add VOIGTLANDERS f 0,95 so. It is a matter of personal tastes but sooner or later small and light will win this war. Best regards and sorry for my terrible english !!!
I wont diagree but pics and vids just wont tell me how it will work for me. I have to use it for a week and decide which I’m out of luck on that. I wish it was more rugged like the fuji xti as well.
Rugged? it is a magnesium body? why own a doorstop…
CSC/ILC are no replacement for a DSLR/DSLT.
For many people they are.
Yeah thats what Large format press shooters said about 35mm cameras…Join the 21st century buddy…
I have, its called A99II (or any other SLT enabled FF Sony camera, now and in the future)
I’m sure the A99 mark 2 will be great. I will be waiting in line with you. But the fact is FE mount is just as justified as A mount. More usable in many circumstances….
Sounds like you are the one that is more worried about “appearance” than substance if you care more about the sound that it makes than the pictures that it is capable of taking. Maybe you should get an iPhone 😉
I reLly need that wide angle zoom to be spectacular. If so, I will sell out of all apsc E mount and will go all FE. Make it so. Also, I need that 85mm to be awesome.
It won’t be. They never are. There is only one decent one in the world in modern lineups (nikon) and it is big, retrofocal, and very expensive. you will complain about price and corners on the FE ultra wide zoom. its a promise.
I think they should focus a little bit more on A-mount. We don’t have a 70-200 f4 (even E-mount has one) or a tiltshift lens…or a new Wide angle prime besides the 20mm f2.8 for fullframe…What about a 24-70 F4? or a 300mm f4 G…A new update to Macro lenses or if they want, a 200mm f4 macro to increase the number of lenses in the lineup. Or a new fisheye besides the 16mm f2.8. What about filling the gap between high-end lenses and easy-choice lenses? We have a great 85mm f1.4 (but pricey) and a very good 85mm f2.8 but no 85mm f2. The same with the 35mm…we have an outdated but pricey 35mm f1.4 and a great 35mm f1.8 (APS-C only sadly) but no 35mm f2.0 fullframe-compatible. Sony either wants your money or they want to screw you with limited alternative choices.
They should re-release all the Zeiss lenses with SSM and/or weathersealing, release a Flash unit with radio triggering built-in. There is still a lot to improve in A-mount. If they’re going to release a new a99 succesor, then they should release a a85 and a high end A-mount camera just for the sake of having it. Maybe make it a OVF model just to see how the market reacts to such a camera like a limited-run production.
Yes, sony will re-release the Zeiss 85mm and the 135mm lenes, not in A-mount but in E-mouont… I think they have sold more A7, A7R then the a900 and a99.
^^ No doubt the A7 and A7r sell more but how many people are buying E mount lenses. E mount is still a very immature system and Sony cannot kill off the A mount so soon when E mount is not viable at present for everyone.
Some people still doesn’t buy A7 or A7r because of lack of lenses. The point is that they don’t have to focus on one mount. Sony is big enough to have plenty of lenses in both mounts
“What about a 24-70 F4?”
Get Sigma 24-105/4 when they release it for A-mount. Much better value, much better range, and Sigma will convert it to a useful mount when Sony admits they dropped A-mount.
Zeiss 35mm f1.4 A-Mount
I agree 100%. When it comes out I’m going to burn or bury my current G-Series.
Didn’t you say in another post that yours was very good? If it’s so good, why dump it?
Cause I said its only “very good” on my Full Frame not great, excellent or even outstanding like my three Zeiss primes (24mm, 85mm, 135mm). Its garbage on the A77 (my wife’s 35mm F/1.8 trounces it on APS-C), its not weather sealed, its screw driven motor is as loud as the A7 shutter, and its soft wide open. However I only bought it for $600.00 second hand.
I’d dump/drop kick-it for a Zeiss in a heart beat
you lustful bastard! 😉
I love that a Sony representative actually acknowledged that the 10-18mm f4 partially covers full frame sensors.
Also pretty cool that they recognize the value of third party products. Shows a level of confidence that they have in their own products.
Very fast…in my dictionary that means faster than f/1.4, and that he’s probably exaggerating.
No, f/1.4 is very fast.
I said “in my dictionary”, I’m not trying to argue with anybody. Think what you want.
Sony doesnt use ‘your dictionary’. Only you do.
Get over yourself.
Oh look, a smarta**. Did I mention anything about Sony using my dictionary? I said I’m not here to argue, go pick your fight somewhere else.
in my dictionary, 1.4 is fast. 1.2 is very fast!
Exactly my opinion too.
b&h said they would answer all the questions submitted to Twitter…where?
Darlings; A mount is soo last season, I wouldn’t be caught dead with wearing A mount!
And very expensive too, i’m sure
very fast better mean 1.4 or faster… 1.8 is not “very” fast IMHO… heck, even 1.4 is a rather common wide aperture lens these days, maybe “very fast” should be reserved for 1.2 or…. .95 lenses….
The video is totally Sony sales promo tv and nothing else, very disappointed to watch. I’m very sure there must be someone asking the shutter shake issue on A7R, but no mentioned at all. And they keep saying AF is fast for sporty use? What?? That photographer who does magazine cover photo jobs shoots really boring photos, unbelievable to have him on stage to talk about photography. The host photography work is satisfactory although not exceptional. Overall a waste of time to watch this video as I expect to hear some useful information in order to decide if I should grab one of these A7 series camera.
One other thing. When will modern hipster style finally die. The coked out fancy black rimmed glasses and sole patches. It’s over guys, thick assed rimed glasses aren’t in style anymore. I’ve declared the end of it. This rant has nothing to do with cameras.
Admin, time to rename this site to match its content I suggest sonyalphaBS