This isn’t a big news but if you think about it it’s actually a milestone for Sony:
For weeks now the most sold system camera at Amazon US is the Sony NEX-6! It’s five years I am wiring on SAR now and I have never seen a non-Canon/Nikon system camera on top of the Amazon US ranking! The US market has been always very conservative and not mirrorless friendly. I think Sony just changed this…
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These are the current Sony deals on Amazon US:
Save $380 on the Sony VGC99AM Vertical Grip with Sony A99 Digital SLR Purchase
Get up to $375 Toward a Sony a7 Camera or Lens with a Qualifying DSLR Trade-in
Buy a Qualifying Sony a7 Series Camera and Save on Select Lenses and Accessories
Buy a Qualifying Sony Alpha Digital SLR Camera and Save up to $200 on Select Sony Lenses
Save up to $200 on Select Sony Lenses with a Qualifying Sony Compact System Camera Purchase
Save $50 on Select Sony RX Series Digital Cameras
Save $50 and Get a Free Case with Sony QX Lens-Style Cameras
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not surprised given the steep discounts on the Sony NEX recently
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Good for sony. Maybe I should pick one up. I hear it’s fantastic. I hope they make an A7 that looks as rugged as this camera.
What? The A7 is “as rugged” as this one!
Can’t tell…never held the NEX-6. Hmmm…looks more rugged. Will have to give it a try.
The best selling camera in this list is a $80 Sony point and shoot? That really speaks volumes about Sony’s future dominance of the free world. And NEX 6 is heavily discounted here…
Let’s not forget that Amazon’s best selling anything fluctuates to algorithms I don’t think any of us know about or can comprehend….
Camrys sell more than BMW M3s.
And of course Amazon’s published numbers are unaudited.
They should not have discontinued it (have they?) and should have keep the price at this level from the start.
A friend of mine received an email from Sony with a “super offer” concerrning the 6. He sold his two Fuji T1 with all lenses and went back to a 5mIII and a Sony a7r. He said that the 6 is a camera he loves (he previously owned a nex5 and a nex7), but he can’t get fond of the 7r.
Its really the beginning of the end for Canon, and Nikon. They didn’t put any real effort in creating a Compact System Camera ecosystem, and now consumers are looking for something smaller, lighter, and more advanced to replace their current cameras with and neither Canon or Nikon produce one.
I agree. Like people are saying the average entry level interchangeable lens consumer doesn’t need all of the bells, and whistles of a DSLR. I expect to see the low-end DSLR market crumble in the next couple of years, and Sony, Fuji, and Olympus seem to be the companies that will benefit from this transition.
Yeah you right. I see most of the traditional DSLR companies taking a major hit because of it, and this comes just after the erosion of the point and shoot camera segment.
However Canon seems to be the only one of the two companies with a game plan, and they’re developing a pellicle mirror based camera.
Sony’s SLT solution was well ahead of its time, and only now people are catching on. It gives you all of the strengths of both mirror-less, and DSLR cameras.
I think as the sub $500.00 DSLR market evaporates Sony will stand to benefit the most.
I also see Canon, and Nikon being forced to either create a credible mirror-less alternative to Sony’s NEX/AXXX series or suffer severe losses.
I also see Canon, and Nikon also being forced to adopt EVF/Pellicle technology in their current DSLRs or face sever losses as potential customers move to SLT technology.
Sonys SLT “solution” played a major part in the decline of their share of the DSLR market even in their home market their market share fell below 5% .The SLT has all the size disadvantages of DSlr’s combined with all the weaknesses of mirrorless .
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/japan-2013-overall-sales-numbers-sony-dslrslt-presence-shrinks-mirrorless-share-increases/
Complete BS – Japanese number that’s all you got – There is a world outside of Japan.
Those are Japanese numbers not global numbers. To use them is utterly pathetic, because they are entirely irrelevant. Real number look like these, and the SLT generates over 30% of Sony’s imaging divisions revenue.
Sony’s SLT are growing rapidly, along with their mirror-less division. If you add their mirror-less, and DSLR sales you’ll quickly realized Sony will dominate the interchangeable lens camera market in less than five years.
Especially with “Sony Imaging PRO Support” being rolled out in North America, and Europe shortly.
Ha Ha Ha
Lance that graph shows the entirety of the camera market not just Sony .This has been pointed out time and again it in no way reflects Sonys market share.
The Japanese market number was just a demonstration not meant to cover the whole world , here are some well known markers from USA, Japan, UK/EU
Amazon USA { the worlds largest electronics retailer}
The A711 is 40th on the DSLR list the A99 doesn’t even make an appearance in the top 100 selling cameras
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-SLRs-Cameras-Photo/b/ref=cpv_lv_dslr?ie=UTF8&node=3017941&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-leftnav&pf_rd_r=0VB7Z531E2KJQ0ZQD9WH&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1869000242&pf_rd_i=502394
Japan
The A7711 nor A99 do not even appear on the list
http://dslrphoto.com/dslr/space.php?do=jranking
UK
The A7II sneaks ion at 50th position
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-Sellers-Electronics-Digital-SLR-Cameras/zgbs/electronics/14335821/ref=pd_ts_zgc_ce_14335821_morl?pf_rd_p=428021747&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-right-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=14335821&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0A8327S3677X19ZWHSDY#1
Germany
Miracle the A77II makes it into the top 20
http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/photo/760674/ref=zg_bs_nav_ph_2_571862
The A7711 is still behind { though by very little } the Nikon 24mp sensor .There is little doubt outside the Sony brotherhood that the impact on high ISO of the first round of SLT cameras had a detrimental impact on sales/
http://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-SLT-Alpha-77-II-versus-Nikon-D5300-versus-Sony-SLT-Alpha-77___953_919_734
As an instantaneous snapshot of unaudited numbers from a single retailer, it may or may not be an interesting data point, but it is indicative of not too much of anything at all.
How many total units were sold by month worldwide since launch? What is the revenue, and what is the income, after deducting ALL costs? Importantly, what is the trend?
In the past, many new models sold well in the first month or two, and tapered off quickly afterwards. So exactly what does an Amazon snapshot prove about anything, one way or the other?
The data on Amazon.com is updated on an hourly basis it doesn’t take much to track trends by simply looking at the results regularly I ,and remember this is the most DSLR dominate market on the planet so if DSLR’s/SLT’s don’t do it there they are less likely to do so elsewhere
The CIPA statistics cover all the Japanese camera production and shipment the fact is that even on what has so far been a good year for mirroless with a new model released every half hour or so lol. The overall volume remains at 77% DSLR 23% mirrorless.
The BCN numbers reflect actual sales in Japan.
The DSLR market is basically Canon and Nikon with depending on data sets they hold between 85-90% of the market with Pentax and Sony bringing up the rear. Interesting that you complain about the Amazon,CIPA & BCN data all of which reflect sales. While conveniently ignoring the graph that has been post here many times which doe not show in any way Son’s share of the market.
Your defensive post is no surprise as you among the trio of Sony apologists/fanboys who defend everything Sony . I expect VLAD and ZOHEE along shortly.
That’s funny, cause the A77II just finished whooping the Nikon, and Canon’s best camera.
Just to be clear the Sony’s A77II, which is a SLT is the best APS-C DSLR made today.
I think the only weakness around here is your common sense.
I don’t think it’s quite the beginning of the end for Canon and Nikon, although they are sorely lacking good mirrorless options. Micro 43 and Fuji-X are definitely becoming mature and worthy options for most shooters. Sony FE is exciting, but it will be a long time before there is a full lens line.
All Nikon or Canon has to do is to create a FX mirrorless camera that can do on-sensor PDAF for backwards compatibility with their decades of existing lenses (via adapter) very similar to the Oly E-M1. Then they can start releasing new mirrorless lenses and they’re back in the game.
Actually it is. Nikon barely survived the point and shoot market crash, and has only been limping along because of traditional DSLR sales. Should the low-end DSLRs market crash, Nikon will be in severe trouble. They’re already posting losses.
Plus on sensor PDAF isn’t ready, and won’t be ready for semi-pro/professional levels of performance. Plus Sony owns all the patents, and I doubt they’ll share to their direct competitors.
Maybe Fuji, or Olympus will buy them out.
You business geniuses seem to forget the gigantic losses that have been made in the camera divisions of all the big mirrorless players in recent years.
Nikon have posted a profit not a loss { 46.8 billion yen} Though unless they do some thinking long term they may well struggle as amongst all the big camera making companies Nikon have the least diversity with cameras/lenses making up the vast majority of their business.
http://asia.nikkei.com/Markets/Tokyo-Market/Nikon-profit-climbs-10-despite-sluggish-sales
The only camera companies making money are Canon and Nikon .Sony as with Olympus and Panasonic have lost money in their camera divisions
Sony
https://fstoppers.com/gear/sony-imaging-posts-loss-third-straight-fiscal-year-9349
Olympus imaging division has been losing money for so long that they are now going to merge the imaging division inside their successful medical division to hide the losses
http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/540618/olympus-narrows-imaging-loss-but-camera-sales-disappoint
Despite what so far has been a good year for mirrorless the numbers of cameras shipped breakdown as 77% DSLR 23% mirrorless . And the DSLR market is hugely dominated by Nikon and Canon
CIPA
http://www.cipa.jp/stats/documents/e/d-201405_e.pdf
Thanks for the CIPA Japanese documents, but do you have anything to offer that isn’t completely useless.
He’s spewing garbage. I think you hurt his feelings. Maybe a little Sony Pro will make him feel better.
Sure!!!
What seems to hurt feelings around here are facts
CIPA statistics cover all the Japanese makers , both production and shipments with detailed numbers . Sony fanboys live in a world of denial .Sony’s camera division is losing money year on year .
“Canon and Nikon, although they are sorely lacking good mirrorless options. Micro 43 and Fuji-X are definitely becoming mature”
For not having good mirrorless options, Canon and Nikon mirrorless outsell Olympus, Panasonic, and most definitely Fuji in most markets.
That’s really the point. The low-end mirror-less, and DSLR market entirely two different creatures.
SLR cameras will likely return to their roots, semi-pro, professional, advanced amateurs, and much higher price points (over 1k). They’re just too much camera for the average person.
Sony is the only current SLR company that is effectively transitioning away from the consumer SLR market, growing its overall SLR market share and increasing its SLR revenue at the same time.
They saw this coming, and created a modern consumer mirror-less market, and modern semi-pro/Pro SLT market to replace the traditional DSLR in less than five years.
Its nice to see their hard word actually come to fruition.
Sony has been struggling in the DSLR space since they acquired Minolta-Konica. They first tried to make a splash by offering very nice cameras at a price point that severely undercut Canon and Nikon.
Then Sony decided to raise back their prices to match the big boys.
I had Sony DSLR equipment, then went to sell it. The residual value in the US was in the toilet. Until the secondary used market is anywhere near that of Sony or Nikon, there is nothing in past trends or in the mere passage of time that indicates it will replace anything.
Keep that thought. We’ll talk in a few years. ;^)
Well, if Sony wants to erode the entry to mid level of CaNikon, they should concentrate more on APS which they currently don’t.
The APS E-system has no particular strength apart from cheap high performance bodies.
– No good pancakes
– No good tele
– No good standard zoom at a reasonable price (like the Fuji)
– etc…
If Fuji at some point announces a body with the specs and price of the A6000, there’s really no point in staying with the E-system, unless you want FF. My last hope is that Sigma comes out with a good lineup of lenses for all APS mirrorless systems. Until then I won’t invest in the E-system and instead will use my legacy lenses on these decent Sony bodies. But that’s hardly a mainstream purpose is it?
Sony Imaging PRO support ROCKS
Its going to lead to complete A7r, and A99II dominance.
and joe is a moron.
“Its really the beginning of the end for Canon, and Nikon.”
Yep, and that link snapshot to Amazon is overwhelming proof.
This list is usually driven by price. So what’s more interesting is number 4, the RX-100III at full price.
Not really the RX100 is outstanding, only an idiot wouldn’t buy one.
I use A7R, a6000, Nex-7, Nex-6, Nex-3n, E-M5, GH4, Ricoh GR and GXR. Forgot K-3 lol pretty much a camera whore. Nex-6 + Sigma Art 60mm is my best camera lens combo. Search for some images and see for yourself. Nex-6 is really the best value. You can get an open box one at B&H for $400 then turn around and sell the kit lens for $100. I am soon on my way to wearing out the Nex-6 like I did the NEX-7!
I thought it would be the Samsung nx300 or Panasonic gh4. Americans are cheap stingy anyway.
Nex-6 is slow focusing compared to an SLT. It is too limiting for my style of shooting. And kit lens is small but has ugly aberations. It is not a kit for an advanced amateur. But for the money they sell it off now it seems a good deal as an iphone upgrade.
Cameras like the A77II are clearly designed for those demand all-out performance, and its ability to take 12 full focused pictures in a second is outstanding, but its designed for a entirely different type of photographer (semi-pro/pro).
The A6000 is designed for the casual photographers who wants something that’s a little faster than you average consumer mirror-less. This is why the A6000 will likely dominate the market filled with cheap Nikon, and Canons DSLR when its price drops.
I demand all-out performance as I do a lot of concert photography, so I don’t consider myself a casual photographer. Nevertheless I own A6000 and find it very useful as a camera that I can carry around all the time with me. It’s a street photographer’s little wonder, perfect for constant practicing of composition and social shoots where it becomes much less visible than big DSLRs. And when it comes to concert photography, it’s useful as well – as a 3rd camera in the set, the other two being “dedicated tele” and “dedicated wide” A99s.
Next year when the A6000 hits that price mark I will jump on it. NEX 6 is a good camera but the advantages of the A6000, and no particular need at this time, will make me wait.
Quite right. The A6000 hits the sweet spot of performance, affordability and production costs.
Why did you post a picture of all of the compact camera rankings and not of the compact system camera rankings, since that is what the article is about???
This rumors site is soooooo pathetic.
Your expectations are off. You expect exciting new news leaked about future offerings.
Think of the “….rumors.com” sites as rather “….gossip.com” sites, and you’ll enjoy them more.
True, no proper lens lineup (Fujifilm did), no dedicated accessories, not even a proper fast portrait prime on 2.8 wide for night photography, but I only I find this, YAAAAY Canon P&S don’t sell as much as NEX6. Big deal 🙁
Pity there is only one other “nex” camera in the top 100 the A6000 in 53rd spot
My only question is what is the number sold… I’m thinking that the market size for that type of camera has been shrinking… so even though having the top spot in any market is a good thing, it isn’t a great thing if the market is disappearing.
The future is Sony’s
Sony PRO ROCKS
With pro support for 21st Full Frame cameras none has a chance.
lol. There is a little bit more to it than that. The support needs to work and not just be ‘Pro’ in name only. Plus you need the product to go with it, with the full range of accessories to go with it. A7 series is far from having the full range of accessories that most pros require. The video camera range is different. That can support pros fully.
“Compact mirrorless digital camera” back in time people just think it as similar of a common digital camera. until the first generation of Nex7 announced as flagship mirrorless draw a lot of attention who are demanded for this kind of ‘serious’ camera. Sony made the first step officially enter into interchangeable lenses compact mirrorless system. this is strong commitment from Sony to ensure the birth of new Emount ecosystem will get priority in the future. Sony know mirrorless is the future! But this could also an attempt stab on own business (A mount); that is the reason the adapter coming in place closing the gap. To continue the mirrorless leading effort in this new eco system, sony updated their roadmap with series A7 FF bodies, demontrated leading class fast AF in A6000 semi pro category, new king of ISO/DR sensor, cheapest FF, awesome video codec XACVS, some lenses from zeiss/sony – a great milestone!
Unlike Sony created new ecosystem for interchangeable lenses mirrorless segment, Canikon they took different approach – M system and V system (both are very small sensor) seem target the same group of users (digital camera segment), I would say both Canikon does not really answer to Sony E mount ecosystem, IMO they worry that could hurt their existing eco system. May be ILMS sound stupid to threaten their ecosystem lol…
So, what about A mount (dslr)? I speculate A mount will keep going with refreshing greater spec. Amount is not going to die at anytime soon! many of ‘them’ mad, rating, angry because of slow update for long due A99 lol…. bear in mind this could be a counter measure to answer canikon new FF dslr, cross finger 🙂
Fuji now at the right path, right threat to future Sony E mount eco system. I speculate Fuji will launch FF at 2016 once they have done more lens on current APSC segment, Fuji is ready to go FF 😀 Sony needs time for emount lenses expansion! Same goes to Fuji. Let see who did better for ILMS soon 🙂
Well that did not last for long. Canon EOS Rebel T3 is now outselling it on Amazon US.
LOL, look at how many used ones are being sold as well though. Clearly people realise their mistake when they buy this camera and want to get their dignity back.
Canon Rebel T3i has 3X more used ones on offer than NEX6. So, what’s your point?
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Hey, where are the Samsung NX cameras….