Zeiss Loxia Lenses — BandPro 2014 from Clint Milby on Vimeo.
Hdslrshooter interviewed the Zeiss US manager and he spilled out some info about the future Loxia lenses (just watch the full video on top). He said a wide and a tele prime lens are very likely to come. And he “believes” those lenses will be on market by end 2015. We don’t know yet if those lenses will be “based” on the ZM line just like it happened with the other two Planar 50mm and Biogon 35mm primes. But let’s take a look at the ZM lens range:
Wide primes:
[shoplink 10875 ebay]Distagon T* 2,8/15 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9803 ebay]Distagon T* 4/18 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9804 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/21 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9804 ebay]C Biogon T* 4,5/21 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9805 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/25 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9806 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/28 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
Tele primes:
[shoplink 9810 ebay]Sonnar T* 2/85 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9810 ebay]Tele-Tessar T* 4/85 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
I would really like to see the 21mm f/2.8 and the 85mm f/2.0 🙂 And you?
Zeiss Loxia store links:
Zeiss Loxia 50mm f/2 Planar T* Lens for Sony E Mount at BHphoto, Adorama., WexUK, CameraPro.
Zeiss Loxia 35mm f/2 Biogon T* Lens for Sony E Mount at BHphoto, Adorama, WexUK, CameraPro.
Zeiss Lens Hood for Loxia 50mm f/2 Planar T* Lens at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss Lens Hood for Loxia 35mm f/2 Biogon T* Lens at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss 52mm Front Lens Cap for Touit and Loxia Lenses at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss De-Click Key for Loxia Lenses (5-Piece Set) at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss Rear Lens Cap for Loxia E-Mount Lenses at BHphoto and Adorama.
188 Responses
I’d like to see the 50mm Loxia that I pre-ordered months ago be available in the UK before they start worrying about the other models.
I believe the Loxia line is the best thing to happen to the E mount and is invaluable to its future success. The people at Zeiss make fabulous lenses and are on the right track. I am just waiting for Sony to release the A9S to go all in!
They are great lenses but I just don’t how they are the best thing to happen to E-mount and invaluable to its success. There are many other manual focus options that are just as good, if not better, for around the same price. Now if they were auto-focus, I probably would be more inclined to agree with you.
They make sense given the ethos of small and light. A bit pricey though and with no AF. Niche of a niche.
Agreed.
If they differentiate the ‘tele’ a little by making it 90mm aka 135mm on APS-C, I’m all in
A 21 will be great. I don’t like manual focusing on the A7, much rather prefer the rangefinder style of focusing, but with the 21 I can zone focus and shoot from the hip, something most AF lenses can’t do these days.
Really can’t see how focus peaking is worse than rf focusing. With focus peaking you can focus anywhere on the frame for starters… no focus recompose issues. There’s no need for ambient light… you can focus in terrible light. You can easily tell when the subject is coming towards or going away from the plane of focus. You can focus closer than 0.9m. You can focus with long lenses. Your camera doesn’t need to be pre designed for a select set of focal lengths for the framing… any focal length can be used. You can see a stabilised image. You can see what your polariser is doing. You can see what your filters are doing.
The list goes on. RFs are junk hack jobs next to focus peaking. Some of the favourite cameras i have use RFs but they’re terrible for focusing anything interesting with.
It may be wrong but it’s been called zone focusing for decades.
You are correct, zone focus is the proper terminology adopted by photographers in the 19&30’s.
Don’t contradict geno, he may toss himself to death. He already threatened us, I want a clean conscience…
Learn to use google and look me up in various forums. You’re giving yourself way too much credit.
There used to be slavery back then too… must we continue to practice it? Too bad there’s no table for everyday logic for you engineers to look up 😉
Now, now. No need to act-out!
Should we also imitate roaches because they’ve been around for a long time? 😉
What a dumb statement…….. 😉
I’d be surprised if i hear a worse come back this year… but i know if i do it’s probably from you probably hunched over a keyboard, typing with one finger at the rate of 0.5 characters a second, again 😉
>Should we also imitate roaches because they’ve been around for a long time? ;)<
Correct 😉
The mod has to be a registered user. Welcome to computers 😉
😉 You insist on winking at people, is a an Aussie thing? Its not very Mick Dundee, more Dame Edna if you ask me. 😉
Are you the same person struggling to figure out how to register a username? Rofl
😉
Isn’t that what you do?
Soon enough roaches would be smart enough to figure out how to register a username although you struggle merely to appear as different people. All the replies are at the same time but from different poorly chosen aliases… how pathetic LOL
From my assessment of your ignorance, a human life time isn’t long enough for you to be as good… so, stop hating and start worshipping… you might learn something.
Why so angry? Have I been too bad? Are you on drugs again?
I know it’ll test your limits but do yourself a favour and google me. People far better than you have hated me and i still don’t get angry LOL Do you think you’re something special? Also, your humour is embarrassing. The drug reference is probably because you’ve been prescribed meds in the past because you dont know how to use a camera and it made you beat your grandmother or something ROFL
You’re not exactly taxing the art of focusing by what *you* shoot though are you. Hudson may be photographing more than a bowl of soup at lunchtime.
Actually a rf is good for a bowl of soup because it’s terrible for tracking focus… another thing i forgot to mention.
As for what i shoot… there are these things called “links” on webpages… they’re usually underlined in blue… try clicking on them sometime 😉
These were all done on dslr ovfs(!) and no pre focusing…
600mm manual focused:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/tags/loreal600mf/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/tags/600mf/
400 2.8:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/3852064595/
Tilt shift:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/genotypewriter/tags/lisabarroncomau/
Let’s see yours?
http://www.hindawi.com/journals/criu/2013/192960/fig1/
Yeah, I think I have you beat – amateur…….. 😉
You’re prettier than i thought 😉
What a waste of money, I hope you stole or borrowed those lenses, or you have some good pics somewhere else.
Learn the subject and you might get a clue lol
Pointing out your photo misery is like shooting on the red cross. It’s nice to see you respond as if you had it, though.
You can’t even figure out how to register a username and you think you know how to operate a camera or better yet… know what someone else did with theirs? stick to rubbing your two IQ points together to rediscover fire Md leave the internet ROFL
And you don’t know the internet, either. An English grammar would also help. But go ahead, as if you had it. LOL.
“An English granmar would also help”
ROFL
I’m not trying to convince anyone rf focusing is “better”, just my preference in this case.
Sure… but mentioned it for your own good 🙂
have you used the voigtlander 21/1/8? its a wonderful lens. especially coupled with a helicoid close focus adapter letting you shoot close doubling its functionality.
Unfortunately I have not. I’ve heard good things about it and seen great pictures taken by it, but the size is the deal breaker for me here. My 21 weapon of choice used to be the ZM 21/4.5 when I was still shooting film. You can see my obsession with small size.
Sony should just introduce snap focus an deb done with it.
I think that flooding their production capacity with manual focusing lenses is a bad long-term strategy.
or it might be the reason why they are still in business today. they dont want to be another sigma…
Not sure these companies in this given market are to concerned with “long-term.”
These companies inferring manual focus quality prime makers? Zeiss one of the original and producing as, if not more interesting glass(the new Zeiss m mount 35mm 1.4) than the other such company leica(they may have a 28mm 1.4 coming out in production at some point though 😀 Not see that video on how some Zeiss lenses get tested? and not to destruction so you can see exactly what kind of punishment they can take which is quite surprising. This given market as in the present cameras and users with respect to use of such lenses as these where other makers for the other markets evaporated and no longer even exist to make such equipment due to historical reasons and sometimes ill-fated choices?
Sony + Zeiss = Magic! can we just agree on that much and then be critical buyers and objectively opinionated regards the particular lenses they output together(Zeiss 55mm 1.8 cough)?
You two make a good couple but little sense.
Meaning? Zeiss made m42 mount that is long lived. Zeiss developed designs for glass that are long lived. Zeiss makes lenses that are solid and long lived. Are you suggesting that in fact they achieved these things by not considering the long term implications of their designs and plans as they laid them out and proceeded with them? I guess that could be true in relation to the genius of some of the design work but manual focus prime lenses made to last a specifically long time in good form are certainly designed with long term useage in mind. Sony? DSLR vs Mirrorless differentiation longterm? EVF vs optical? Does it even matter when people wont be convinced not to just get an opposing system anyway to prove a redundant point of difference(a pursuit more popular than photography by far but not necessarily making the companies impacted money or garnering better equipment for users or objectively better photography) i reckon stop pandering to them all together longterm and just make great equipment as they have done successfully from the beginnings of photography as a popular medium. Doesn’t take some leica glass well? make a digital medium format camera suitable to perfection of photographic function that isn’t compromised by size like even the original leica cameras were intended to be presumably for travel and convenience. Is 35mm camera even so relevant now that we COULD have medium format camera somewhat inexpensively instead.
Lenses won’t AF in a few years GENIUS, again look-up Lytro. Do you think “Old Jerry” hasn’t figured this out.
please refer to your encyclopedia britannica 1969 edition for how Magic Leap technology will make augmented reality possible with synthetic 3D model visions which you can see with depth of field matching your own eyes point of focus as you look around the real environment.
why don’t you put that old dusty The Who record ‘Pinball Wizard’ while you are reading all about it 🙂 and well relive all those memories
Zeiss or their subcontractors only make a small number of auto-focus lenses, the Touit line for Fuji X and Sony APS-C E-mount. Zeiss is known for manual focus, Some of the best manual focus lenses in the world. The Sony Zeiss branded auto-focus lenses are made by Sony (or their subcontractors) and have no effect on the Zeiss made lens lines in terms of production capacity.
Yes, it’s only been working for them for 169 years.
Thanks! Sometimes the obvious must be stated right. LOL
i had the GREAT, but LARGE, HEAVY and espensive Canon 85/1.2L nFD… i sold it…. nothing comes near the weight, clearness, bokeh and brice of my OM Zuiko 85/2, latest version, mint status…. for around 200e
No one said the 85/1.2 has great bokeh the same way no one says the Noctiluxes are the best for bokeh. You should have done more research before you wasted your time with the wrong lens 😉
We are so lucky we have smart donkeys telling us that we made a mistake.
Not a surprise that donkeys can point out your mistakes when you have such poor wit in your come backs LOLL
I have that lens but check out the Rokkor 85mm f2, it’s much better. Against the Rokkor the only thing the Zuiko has going for it is its compact size.
How is the Rokkor 85mm better?
Does the bokeh suck? The bokeh on the rokkors are a bit harsh depending. I like the 50mm 1.7 I have though. The 135mm 3.5- bokeh is hot garbage, but in the right circumstances the lens can produce very sharp images. It’s just to limited. For an 85mm I need good bokeh.
Check. Though I did pay more for both of mine [ also latest MC version ].
What is that supposed to be?
Well it looks her top is rolled up…so i can only imagine the other half of that photo is of a guys head between her legs…
Caught in the act…
Check. Though I did pay more for both of mine [ also late MCs ]. If you google the lens and add “patent”, you may find a reference to its secret sauce.
I will most likely want a 21mm F2 & also hoping Zeiss would make a 100mm makro planar F2.
Last but not least, Sony, please make a FE 28-120 F4 G lens for the commoners 😀
There is a soon-to-be-released 28-135mm f4 zoom debuting at any time now. It looks a little on the large side but it is said that the weight is quite light. It may look expensive at $2,500 but this price is much lower than any other similar cine zoom lens out there. If the quality for this lens is there, I would take the plunge and buy it myself.
That lens is not for the commoner. The video guys mount this monstrous lens on a rig, so it is “light” in that respect.
There’s an old Nikkor lens 28-105 macro that is more that 10yrs old, pretty solid at F5.6 & F8, I have it still. Light & affordable. This is the range I’m talking about.
So hopefully Sony would release something like that with the optical qualities of the FE 70-200 🙂
FE 24-105 f4 OSS… cant wait 🙂
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That is a lens targeted for video lens and is huge and heavy due to it’s parfocal design and all of the external gear grips for video rigs. It is not intended as a walking around zoom for still photography.
What do you think about Sony Sony Sony’s rantings Mr Peiker?
I haven’t read them all, too long 🙂
War & Peace (minus the beginning, middle & end)
I acknowledge that it is designed for video use yet, from the sample images I have seen, it looks more than qualified for stills use as well. I agree the lens looks large, but almost all initial impressions conclude it is much lighter than it looks. I will be one to try it out myself before making any final conclusions.
Whats the point in having the “fastest autofocus in the world” when all the lenses that they seem to come out with are actually manual focus primes?!!
Which “fastest autofocus in the world” camera that Zeiss has made are you refering to…?
The Nikon1 V3 arguably has the fastest autofocus in the world (at least with continuous AF)
Zeiss isn’t sony….. did this fact escape you? All 5 Sony primes have af.
It’s kind of ironic that people say that they jumped ship to Sony because the E-mount system is so much lighter than a DSLR…and DSLR’s are too heavy and cumbersome blah blah
…yet you now have to do a lot more walking and maneuvering because all you guys seem to have is primes.
So if people are that weak and puny that they “need” a smaller and more compact system…then lol @ you for having to use primes
Walking and freedom of movement is THE most essential thing to photography, finding interesting angle on subjects and by way of natural as in realistic perspective mirroring our visceral experiences: not just artsy blahblah like ‘just shoot’. Having small primes with great wide open performance means you can carry more of the focal lengths and with greater speed too! if you have seen a wide ranging f/2 zoom with great wide open performance anywhere at all, let us all know, otherwise what you seem to be talking about is a compromise of actual photography for a ‘robust’ looking system which includes zooms that weigh a ton and cost a lot but don’t necessarily have anything like exemplary performance. But hey then you can argue what is pro/real photography simply by negating the best and most historically relevant makers glass and best system to use it on (as in they designed and others followed-new glass from other makers from these seems to get reiterated cheaper and even better all too soon after if we have to make comparison)…These super wide zooms that the for pro makers produce are only good for not even considering subject distance, not where an obstruction actually precludes stepping back a few paces…
>Having small primes with great wide open performance means you can carry more of the focal lengths and with greater speed too!<
And you think that'll happen with a MF sensor – GENIUS!
Here it comes………………
too late oldtimer
Bigger than canon 50mm 1.4 , bit heavier i think, and about as useless for the dammed moment >:(
Tired out a troll huh? XD
If the 80 f/2 planar Contax medium format lens was just a metal cylinder the 50mm 1.4 EF would fit inside…the Contax 645 Distagon 35mm 3.5 is big and heavy, but its super sharp, extra wide and well aren’t you pro life coaches and heavy equipment fanatics all about that kind of thing? it does have strangely good manual focus override if short or whatever but not bad for such an antiquated AF lens though..pity the focus by wire is troubling on my Sony’s Zeiss 55mm 1.8 :I
Digital medium format camera body NOT FILM ERA principally can’t ever be smaller at all?
You’re a bloody Brit, now it all makes sense!
Hello Confusius
You keep failing to see the point that its not the images you have shot, it is HOW you shoot.
yeah, freedom of speech and all that
A mount and one of these thank you Sony or it will be Nikon for the tie pin. (do i get credits for more posts like this? worse than vodaphone!)
You probably think Medium format images use a wider angle of view in general to be so cool looking, i’m just telling you this info nicely lol
XD
Other way around, good grief……….
good save!
No good save, might actually know something, might actually be tired of pontification, might be too old for your crap? 😉
In my hands i am holding a Contax 645 Planar 80mm f/2…its not that big…um no further comment…XD
Displacement, its the only way to accurately measure something. Like fat camp, remember? Now, put the Contax in a bucket, fill to top with water. Repeat with all your other kit and report back in the morning on the displacement of all your kit, OK.
Don’t worry if none of the kit works after you dry it all out, it won’t affect your photography skills, honest!
I just got a container as per your instructions but I cant seem to get the Tair 3 300mm in there with the chinons :I and yes i removed the trigger attachment already…
Apertures open or closed before immersion?
I refuse to put the Zenitar ME1 with square aperture in with them, that’s just sadistic…Jupiter 11A in you go..oh not too bad on the displacement that one…was it the AE or the EE that was better?!
The Contax is scratched already but i don’t think the electronics in the residual AF would like it much
No way am i putting my favourite contax for 35mm cam in there, I can see they are bleeding compact and i know how they shoot so whats the point anyway?
Actually i think you have no meaningful counter argument to such a thing thus resort to belittling what little knowledge i may have about such things that you do not have.
>thus resort to belittling what little knowledge i may have about such things<
I actually completely agree here!
you assume that they were using zooms on the DLSR before the switch? Your logic is that people dont like using primes? Just because you dont like to cause youre lazy?? hmmmm…
It can be a small, light system using primes. Or a big, DSLR-like system with larger zooms (either with or without the LA-EA4 adapter).
My Jeep is both 2WD and 4WD – I get to choose which I’d like to use.
Choice is good.
your viewpoint is narrow-minded as an eye of a needle
The dumbest logic ever.
Not sure if trolling, or just stupid…
He he, true, but they are not photographers, just nerding about to feel accepted or clever.
I want the E-Mount version of 18mm F/4 Distagon 🙂
Probably see it some day, but they might work their way down to it via the 21mm f/2.8 first.
Guy on the right looks like Christopher Hitchens.
My vote is for the 18mm 🙂
17? Just a weeee bit wider please.
I was just keeping it to the old M-series focal lengths 🙂
What Rich actually says in this interview is “we’re gonna do wides, and we’ll do a long”.
That indicates to me that they’ll release two wide angle lenses (maybe a 15mm F2.8 as well as a 21mm F2.8) and one long lens (hopefully an 85mm F2).
15mm F2.8 is too difficult for a full frame mirrorless mount.
Where does the “too difficult” come from?
If you’re thinking about flange distance, Sony E is 18mm and Nikon is 46mm, so that’s a serious difference.
But Leica M is 28mm and there is a 15/2.8 ZM. And they’ve managed to make it a lot lighter than the ZF version.
That said, I think Sony users would also accept a 15/2.8 ZA, which Zeiss never made (for some reason – possibly small client base).
too difficult comes from the fact that although weight could be decreased dramatically from Zeiss F to Zeiss ZM, the bulky size may not be compromised. If sony’s goal is to guarantee the portability, 15mm F2.8 may be too difficult to meet both light weight and small size.
Zeiss doesn’t care about Sony’s intention. They are making and selling lenses.
Yeah… I think we’re missing something here.
Distagon 15/2.8 is a Zeiss design. It is designed and even manufactured by Zeiss (unlike most of their lenses which are made by Cosina in Japan).
Zeiss knew how to make it for 2 vastly different mounts. I don’t see why they would not be able to make it for third.
I give you an example, how this can be done. You take a 15/2.8 ZF. You take an F-E adapter and you glue them together. Bum! You have a 15/2.8 for E-mount!
BTW: Zeiss is not a Sony subsidiary. And Sony “Zeiss” lenses are not designed nor manufactured by Zeiss. They are only licensed.
BUM! We are back to the size / weight argument.
we should draw argument circles so people know which circle they are on…. again… and again… maybe do a RPM count.
28mm is already a challenge with E mount. What an opportunity they missed…
35 mm is dead for me. I rather have a 28 mm than the already on the marked 35 mm. Thats because 35 is to close to a 50 mm. But why not elliminate the two and go for a 42,5 mm. That means i only need 15 mm, 21 mm ,28 mm 42,5 mm and a 85 mm. Instead of 15 mm ,21 mm, 28 mm, 35 mm ,50 mm and offcourse the 85 mm
35mm assures exaggerated dimensionality through perspective in all but dead straight on horizon shooting,
55mm for instance limits such off angle induced distortions in even casual shooting but at loss of that uber normal 42mm dimensionality that could work so well with shallow depth of field and quality common in only the 35/50/55’s:)
Therefore i propose an unusually fast and clean 42mm with excellent rendering for ultimate dimensionality from wide open:) but the properties of the other two cannot be dismissed altogether for reasons at least i noted above.
While losing a little of the resolution and by reframing by cropping the 35mm you can get the best fit 42mm on your image in post too 🙂 You can even shoot with 35mm but in 16:9 to get something similar to 42mm unless this is totally of my invention lol
However please add aspect ratio and focal length on screen framings with complete variation possible to Sony camera’s so that the image doesn’t have to be cropped up in cam and with opaque and transparent border options!!
I like 28mm a lot too.
square aspect ratio so you can crop to whatever you desire 😉
and no need to shoot in ‘portrait’ mode and all bloody grips would become obsolete
Yes, and a zoom function so you can view the crop whole screen too!
Where’s your website? I’m fascinated by what you have to say and excited to see your masterful vision of our tiny planet. FOC.
No pictures to show yet, WTF…… just more platitudes…….
This ‘so’ isn’t a gallery for the internets readership. omg i should take your role as chief comedian. I have lifelong had an interest in making art in the widest sense esp through new technology and in relation to all the tech i love in general considered aesthetically. I suddenly realized i should be doing photography ‘absolutely’ just a few years ago upon getting a camera and Sony now made me happy producing a digital camera that solved the problem i had of useless digital cam tech well over a decade ago.
Photography is objective not subjective: that’s just it, you should have some idea now or settle with having no idea at all about photography and troll a clowning forum with your ‘failed comic’ atonements and asides.
P.S. i’m working ‘a lot’ on that side of things too haha now don’t freak me out about it, i come here to read and enjoy finding out all the new information.
Visual photography is so 2014. We’re talking at a much higher level here, we’re talking “pre-visualisation without materialization or representation of dimensional content.” LOL
You don’t want a fast well corrected 42ish normal lens that has excellent rendering for well shots at that particular focal length framed to full resolution for those who know how to use it, instead you want to criticize opinion on something you have no idea about whatsoever and are scared by all the potentially important factual information you dismiss with every new meaningless jibe
Good god, got a ruler for Christmas did we………… Now, got any pictures to share and prove your points with? After all, I’m so thick I prefer visual-aids for education & enlightenment.
Full frame is dead to me. Why bother when APSC is so good nowadays. Time to move over to Medium Format but dang, my bank account won’t let me.
Why 35mm cam and not APSC? and indeed how absurd to also forgo medium format which will follow suit of 35mm camera regards APSC cams of past and be ultimately less expensive to have a photography system in, which achieves highest image quality, nuance and realism. Why move up to objectively better formats? Because in the near future that APSC and even 35mm image will look like a photocopy does now.
As managers of ‘parcels of objective reality’ our photographic subjects of timely interest deserve no less than medium format level of realism and it needn’t cost more than equivalent 35mm quality, or rather it cant even be equivalent anymore than APSC can to 35mm camera is now.
Medium format is better because the glass image isnt stretched to breaking point to the limits of optics and physics XD and the matter of achieving the near impossible gaussian blur for sufficient dimensionality in competition with future 3D media is overwhelming.
See what the so called ‘Magic Leap’ virtual reality technology has in store for our potential viewers and you will want as much out of objective reality authentically as possible, or indeed consider how having shallow depth of field and point of focus simulation on devices soon to be as common as iphones are now could effect those ‘masterpieces’ in 2D pictorical art in future if they don’t enter into Hollywood type Cinematic tip top quality format and corresponding lenses.
At some point perhaps that eye tracking device in earlier canon cameras could allow auto focussing that matches our wishes as we simply survey the scene too. Digital era sensor, Digital era Tech. Smooth and intuitive manual focus and dedicated buttons and controls and of course the glass, are all the analog era tech we need from the past now instead of denying ourselves all the progress happening in all fields around our photography.
What he said
A little knowledge & all that, WTF are you smoking. The future of photography is the photographer, not spewing yesteryears knowledge on a rumors forum. In the time it took you to write that re-hashed diatribe about a billion images were shot by people with cellphones. The cellphone is the future of photography, the computer and the entertainment system. Try a search for Lytro, good grief……..
absolute nonsense: meaning you know nothing at all.
EASTMAN KODAK – R.I.P.
In future, analog tech could as well save a presumed digitally based company: ironic huh?
There you go again Ronny…….
Good for you, now onto the topic of the day photography!
I dream about photography…
eeeeh… are you guys role playing some imaginary jedi VS sith battle? “your knowledge of camera’s is futile compared to my analog powers…” “Prepare for the phone grip of doom old man!” ‘ look I’m your father, now go to your room!”
Seriously, do you guys need some privacy or something? I feel like i’m intruding on some weird ritual.
says ‘nerdo’ lol
Shame, I thought you would be smart enough to get the analog power joke. Oh well.
and the ‘proper’ spelling one yourself…
smart enough? I just don’t like star wars >:I
Funny how you lecture others on education and jumping to conclusions, recognition perhaps? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog
um exactly my point
oh then I’m missing your point?
analog/analogue
analog: continuous signal: common word like all the electronics of our modern world
analogue: see below : more old fashioned useage
Analogy (from Greek ἀναλογία, analogia, “proportion”[1][2]) is a cognitive process of transferring information or meaning from a particular subject (the analogue or source) to another particular subject (the target), or a linguistic expression corresponding to such a process.
I could have just used word ‘analogy’ then…
Ah ok so you did get the joke, sorry 🙂 I was confused, figured you might understand but this comment section just turns everything into a giant effin headbutt contest. Anyway, yes digital makes photography more visual, instant checking or with mirror-less we can see exactly what we are suppose to be capturing. But it is the knowledge from shooting film (photography and motion picture) and the simple understanding software did not change the laws of physics that have really gave me a head start over a lot of the people who jumped in at the iPhone age.
You only become old if you stick to the old ways of doing things when they don’t work. the trick is to find out which ones don’t work anymore and you can only find out by trying the new stuff like the Lytro camera: the first model was horrible. I do like the HTC has done on their camera: two camera’s and software to calculate DOF and refocussing, it’s fun. But it will take a long time before you can replace a 400mm shot with a clever phone app. The real issue is: most people who come to argue have no clue and don’t understand the points being made. To understand the points you have to know as much as the person making them and int he age of google where a lot of people think they don’t need to ‘know’ anything just know where to find it depth of knowledge is becoming non existent. /rant
Yes i all but teach myself through curiousity and wondering why something in photography is the way it is 🙂 Analogue of photography with other media helps alot too, again the similarity between using curves in tonemapping images and those in music technology is so profound i only realized that i already knew how it all worked AFTER i had experimented on every single processing for some time, in the end i had known the answer all along through analogy…ironically you can never be sure a simple analogy wont be true in the end…I like FilterForge as it demonstrates an analog of modular synthesis in music technology and electronic music history oh and analog computing which proceeded digital…XD etc im not that old yet but i worked on these things of analogy for the larger part of my adult life before finding photography as my most absolute expression. Programming things with modular blocks with visual feedback (oscilloscope) made me smart lol i’m not technical about such, just passionate. Funniest thing is i already knew about analogy in all these forms from my art before i even knew that waves in sound operated so beautifully functionally together, one day maybe study or learn about the behaviour of lightwaves i guess lol
Lytro? just makes me think the way you say about it, why not do something similar but better using a stack of high res images or something by your own hand and with macro in image editor to process them all or something(don’t ask me but i know i could possibly get my photo processing app to do a’lot of shots in series with same settings lol or get experimental and put them in a non linear video editor and process non linearly? oh well you said i was smart sorry lol)…that’s what i would do,it doesn’t look all that ready as technology to use yet, of course this would prevent a single moment being captured but surely you could make something spooky or expressive all the same…a statue? XD and yeah…improvise
I hate some proprietary software :I including photoshop sadly…
frames from a video sequence could def work chopped up and moving too :I
—loves zombies 🙂
have fun making holograms!
thanks i will XD
well lytro is more a complete system, the camera shoots but it is the software that makes the pictures come alive, turning them into web clickable pics. Sure you can do this but… why bother hehehe.
Really shallow depth of field comes to mind, Playback using any media player that will run a high quality video back with some kind of scroller input from mouse wheel or slider on screen or swipe etc to move in and out of the image depth?
Or make in ‘Flash professional’ or something and make it a matrix that can play from a stack of these videos of stills series with Z depth transition over their duration? idk lol
Just make sure the stack pans from left to right around the subject and input from mouse…infact make X axis mouse thepanning around subject and Y axis in and out of depth and be done XD
Go for it 🙂 I’m afraid I got a tv series to shoot.
http://www.swivl.com/solutions/
If this is that one that can work with apps made for it, it could perhaps timelapse all of the positions in a 360 panoramic and the shots at different distances and finally work with some software to put it all together as a full panoramic rotation with depth on it too, using your cameras auto focus lenses etc…
I don’t watch TV lol but im sure its still fun to shoot, I do watch netflix if that is TVish still these days. I’m actually kinda surprised when people talk about TV i haven’t watched it for so long XD
Youtube+movies Netflix got it so well figured out 😀
The postmoderns were wrong, its not god that is dead…it is Television and all the thought oppression and consensus that it commited against society: thanks internets!
When is ‘Internet day’ anyway? :I and ‘photography day’ for that matter, shouldnt we celebrate these great things once a while instead of berating them all the time boom boom XD
Only certain nerds can get the jokes of certain other nerds. This is what sets you nerds apart from normal folks.
Glad to know you are around to explain all things nerd, takes one to know one I guess.
ironic that you know nothing about the use of lens projected image on glass in forming realist paintings of such periods yet know to ‘just shoot’XD… but it was on a television program i watched on youtube, its surely still highly contentious and yet the proof is in the overlay of a reconstructed model of the scene painted by a Dutch master and it all aligns as it should perfectly proving even masters had a few tricks 😀
Good god, we’re onto camera-obscura now. Where will it end………..
nowhere, you are a troll afterall
Remotely operated drones will suffice for such a photographer anyway not just ‘phones’…They already can go autopilot, i am sorry you lack the basic faculties to understand these developments or to go about aquiring knowledge of them peacefully
Forgot one lens that i think is needed. A 135 mm f.2 Lens. Im gonna get me this lens because i need a good quality 135 mm lens
And a 105mm f/2 i love portrait photography…dont shoot me lol but from looking at photos from 85mm,100mm and 135mm and beyond, its the fast 85mm that only seems to look interesting in a particular kind of shot and otherwise a little unnatural often 😉 good for some landscapes though too ironically 🙂
I like where you are going with this.
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FE 24-105 f4 OSS 🙂
Today my a7R arrives. A new camera and a new year. I am pleased.
I don’t use zooms and autofocus rarely and my cameras all live on tripods. Perfect for me.
I also bought myself an 87 Suzuki Samurai, in amazing shape, as my knees are 68 years old now, and only good for about 5 miles these days.
I am gonna have fun!
Enjoy and have a happy new (g)(y)ear
You too man, all the best. My new, well I guess an 87 is not new, Samurai, taken with the a7R:
http://carnagepro.com/photo/a7R/Sammy1.jpg
tnx, perfect vehicle to get around and nice cam for landscape, I guess now we will see those mountain views shot from muddy roads deep in the heart of nowhere 🙂
Wow why is it taking so long? End of 2015 is almost another full year.
A 15mm f/4 for @ 1/2 price of the 15mm f/2.8. I would buy it.
Not going to happen, but I’m totally with you on that one.
Of course it takes ages: that E mount is just not suitable for ff. Sony should stick to APS, or come out with a proper mount.
Or stick to sensors and stop making toys and dodgy marketing…
I would want a Loxia version of the Distagon T* 2,8/15
$$$$$$
Im looking at the loxia 50 mm, and compare this to Leica 50 mm f.2,0 Summicront. Why do they make the Loxia so big. It looks like a whale beside the Leica
That 15…that 15…it’s lustworthy. But, the price man, the price for the ZM is astronomical. What’s missing if you go this route- money in your pocket is what.
If I was a leica shooter I would be looking over here. How they can still sell those things at such high prices boggles my mind.
I want a 21mm and a 90mm comparable to the summarit-m in size
For the 90mm, just get a second hand Tele-Elmarit-M 90/2.8 thin version and an adapter. Very compact. A little over 200 grammes. Perfect for travelling. Not quite up to the Summarit but much cheaper and lighter – and still plnety sharp.
I have a Leica M lens outfit. It works well on my Sony A7S from 35mm and upwards – but not below 35mm. I’d love to be able to skip running my pics from the 21mm Elmarit through Cornerfix. With my Nikon DSLR gear the 24mm is my most used lens. I’d wery much to see a 24/25mm Loxia. No neeed for anything faster than f/2.8.