At minute 4.25 of that Zeiss interview from Abel Cine they confirm they will launch a wide angle Loxia later this year. We can expect that wide angle lens to be based on one of the current ZM lenses listed below.
Wide primes:
[shoplink 10875 ebay]Distagon T* 2,8/15 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9803 ebay]Distagon T* 4/18 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9804 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/21 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9804 ebay]C Biogon T* 4,5/21 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9805 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/25 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9806 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/28 ZM (Click here to see images on eBay)[/shoplink].
Zeiss Loxia store links:
Zeiss Loxia 50mm f/2 Planar T* Lens for Sony E Mount at BHphoto, Adorama., WexUK, CameraPro.
Zeiss Loxia 35mm f/2 Biogon T* Lens for Sony E Mount at BHphoto, Adorama, WexUK, CameraPro.
Zeiss Lens Hood for Loxia 50mm f/2 Planar T* Lens at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss Lens Hood for Loxia 35mm f/2 Biogon T* Lens at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss 52mm Front Lens Cap for Touit and Loxia Lenses at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss De-Click Key for Loxia Lenses (5-Piece Set) at BHphoto and Adorama.
Zeiss Rear Lens Cap for Loxia E-Mount Lenses at BHphoto and Adorama.
Thanks Stanly for spotting the news!
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Sony Zeiss rumored a 25/2.
As of owning a superb 24mm neither the Sony Zeiss nor a Loxia 21 or 25 would be much interesting for me.
If they’d come up with a Distagon 18mm I’d be in right now. 🙂
Same here! I’m hoping for a super sharp 18mm Loxia prime.
awesome! then it will be 21mm 🙂 it’s a deal 🙂
Where/When did “Sony Zeiss” rumour a 25/2? I hadn’t heard that before now.
I think it was Jan or Feb in one of the Roadmap posts.
True or not – I actually don’t care as I wouldn’t go for 25mm anyway.
Yes! A compact, light 18mm f/4 would be the perfect ultrawide and could even coexist with a standard-wide 25mm f/2.8 that is rumored for this year. I am hoping Zeiss will still stay true to its mantra of keeping the 52mm filter size consistent throughout the Loxia series, even with the addition of wider and tele focal lengths.
Nice! I’ve been waiting for a native wide angle. I hope it’s a 21. 25 will do.
Did you hear the prices he said near the end of the video (6:20) for the 3 zoom lenses for video cam?
The 20-80mm and 70-200mm they sell for $19,900 each at attractive price.
The 15-30mm is $23,900
The package of 3 is for $59,000
By the way, the adaptor is $400
These must be nice for 4K ‘porno 🙂
Hoping for 18mm or 15mm 🙂 and hope they push through an 85mm at some point
So does this really mean that Sony is skipping a99m2 and going straight for a99m3 right after this new Zeiss is out?
I wonder if it’s the 25/2.8 as it can have the same filter size as the other two.
The 25/2.8 is most likely, IMHO. If so, we will get an extraordinary lens with extreme resolution.
That’s a good point but I’ll prefer an f2 but a bit bigger if iit is needed
While everyone is hoping for the same-old, I’ll vote for a 20mm F2, super hi rez lens, with 9 rounded blades. 🙂
Zeiss should bring something new with this new Loxia branding, not rehashing some old optic designs with modern manufacturing.
BUT: it is the ONLY “native” 70-200 / f2.8 E-mount ^_^
would be interesting to make a fun-comparison between this compact lens and some existing 70-200s. Especially stuff like focus-breathing, and parfocal abilities. And sharpness + T-stops.
21mm would mach up perfectly with the 35mm and 50mm, for me the 25mm would be a bullseye, it would fit my landscape photo just nice. The 28mm is to close to the existing lenses to make sense. Wider lenses seems a bit strange at the moment, as there would be no lenses in the 20-30mm range. If ther is more than one wide angle, I do hope one of theese is 16-18mm range.
C Biogon T* 4,5/21 would be perfect.
I’m hoping for a 24mm or 25mm, but I think a 18mm or 21mm is more likely – I get the impression that more people are requesting ultra-wides than ~24mm.
The Touit line jumps from 18mm equivalent to 48mm equivalent.
I said a few weeks ago, mark my words, a wide angle loxia is the next lens. Inside source tells me 21mm is the focal length. People made fun of me at the time of posting it
21mm sound like it. Maybe 18mm. Both should do fine for me. 25mm is too close to existing 28 lens.
True. I made fun of you…
Are you Bob Israel?
35/2 & 50/2 are on the market, now Loxia 25/2 + 85/2 please to make the most desirable set and next year bring 21/18mm, and all should be happy 🙂
15 mm would be perfect. And then a 24 mm. So i then will have 15 , 24 , 35 and 50 mm to use on my A7. Autofocus lenses goes on my A99 ( Soon A99 mk II )
A lineup that would be just perfect for me to, but lets get that 24(25?)mm out first.
I wish the Loxia lenses targeted wider apertures. As beautiful as the images from the Loxia lenses are, none are interesting to me because they’re limited with a relatively smaller aperture (relative to manual lenses from Voigtlander, Mitakon, Rokinon, SLR Magic, etc).
I have:
Rokinon 14mm f2.8
Voigtlander 21mm f1.8
Voigtlander 35mm f1.2
Mitakon 50mm f0.95
Rokinon 85mm f1.4
I love what I’m able to do with these lenses on my Sony A7s. Still I love the rendering of Zeiss, and I would eagerly replace my lenses with an entire set of Loxia lenses if Zeiss developed them at f1.4 to f1.8. Besides the superior image quality of Zeiss that would up my game, EXIF data would be very appreciated.
I’m glad they are not. F 2.0 is just perfect in my book.
Well I’m glad they work for some people. The good thing about manual lenses is that wide aperture lenses are able to still be design as relatively small and compact. I hope Zeiss expands their Loxia line into offering wider aperture alternatives.
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There are two cases of compact large aperture lenses I know of. Both are heavily compromised.
Leica M: Way too expensive. (Most Leica M lens buyers I know personally, have not the time to do serious photography or travels, because they work like crazy for that gear.)
Voigtländer: Affordable lenses, but not so great wide open. (Their good lenses like 35/1.2 Aspherical are huge too.) Maybe the new 50mm/1.4 is the only exception.
PS: The Zeiss ZM 35mm/1.4 is compact and good quality too, but I fear as a Loxia version it would be above $2k, which is too high for the average person with an average income. So, I’m saving for the Loxia 35/2.
Yes I would LOVE a Loxia 35mm f1.4, and I would pay $2k. The 35/2 already exists, i would love to see a 35/1.4 come in the future.
Dont like focus by wire or why dont you get the FE Distagon 35/1.4? Absolutely love mine, cant stop shooting it.
The only drawback is fbw. While AF is more important to me for photography and fbw works for me there, I definitely hate it for pulling focus in video.
I’m definitely got my eye on the new Zeiss FE Distagon, but that size…. I don’t know if I can stomach the size. My coat pocket is my camera bag, and the A7s viewfinder hump is already ripping up the inside of my coat pockets. I’ll need to hold it and see.
I don’t need autofocus, I don’t like it. With Focus Peaking, manual focus is FASTER when composing scenes that aren’t center focused. And yeah, I don’t like focus by wire, but can live with it if it’s responsive enough. I’m happy with my Voigtlander 35mm f1.2, but I would upgrade if Zeiss made a Loxia version of their ZM 35/1.4
On the A7II its size is ok but the max I wanna go. On A7s it must feel a bit off. But since youre shooting the Mitakon 50/.95 I figured size is not an issue.
Good to know. The Mitakon is pretty large, bigger than I’d like, but I love the results so I live with it. If the new FE 35/1.4 is comparable in size, I might be cool with it. I’ve got to try it in person. I’d still prefer a manual smaller Loxia 35/1.4 based on the ZM size, but the results I’ve seen from the new FE 35/1.4 look amazing. And to me it looks like a clear upgrade over the Voigtlander 35/1.2. I’m interested in making the jump. Thanks for your perspective.
By the way, I think it’s a myth that the huge size of many modern lenses is caused by the AF mechanism. Look at the optical construction of the FE Distagon 35/1.4. The front element is huge. The whole lens is not much bigger in diameter and length than the glass itself.
The difference in size between the FE Distagon 35/1.4 and the manual ZM 35/1.4 has to do with the totally different optical construction, which is much more sophisticated in the AF version. Look at the 50 mm Planar vs. the 50mm Otus. Both are MF.
Also, all the huge modern super high quality “pro” zooms are big due to their optics, not because of the AF mechanism. They have 12 – 15 or more elements and perform on a level, that seemed impossible 20 years ago. That comes to a price.
Maybe the wide-angle lenses will be f2.8 only like their ZM counterparts. A f2.0 25mm would be very welcome.
How can he say the lenses are $60k for the 3 zooms and have a straight face?? hahah I know a lot of work goes in to making them but daaaaaaamn!!
Ones who are looking for a DSLR with a standard kit lens are saying the same thing about high quality primes.
-How can he say the lenses are $1200 for a single focal length and have a straight face?!?
I guess you might be right. But still… 60k?? hurt my ears hearing it! haha
My bet is 25mm. Most practical next choice, and a final Loxia set covering the typical cinema primes range of 18/25/35/50/85 would be pleasing to filmmakers, I imagine.
I fear the worst. A boring 20-24mm lens. Give us a 17mm.
I call it versatile. Ultra wide angle lenses are good for special uses, but they should be released AFTER normal wide angle lenses.
Bread and butter could be considered boring, but it’s one of life’s essentials.
What about 14?
http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE14M-E-Ultra-E-mount-Cameras/dp/B00HAF167Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1429189706&sr=8-2&keywords=Rokinon+FE14
Thought about this one. I might pick it up still in A mount. Performance looks pretty good.
Where is the Alpha A-mount A99 replacement?
I think it time to display some rumors about the upcoming event.
@Admin, please show us some 🙂 .the A99II specs would be wellcome.
FYI: Zeiss is a lens manufacturer.
Actually, the 4/18 and the 4,5/21 are outdated and out of production according to Zeiss website
So there is only 4 options left:
2,8/15
2,8/21
2,8/25
2,8/28
And I think 28mm is too close to 2/35 Loxia, so it’s lower priority.
For that reason I think there are only 3 options left:
2,8/15
2,8/21
2,8/25
All of those are $$$$$$$$$$
The 25 is not. $1000 is affordable for such a good lens.
You may be suppriced to see Loxia 25/2.
A wide angle is 35 or 28 mm. Everything beneath that, even 24 mm has always been called super wide angle. I bet Zeiss sticks to that tradition.
Agreed. 25mm would be the best.
Further down the road a Loxia take on the CZ zooms would be super interesting.
Sorry to burst your bubble Bob, but you read the title of this article, yes?
This isn’t the first time Zeiss have mentioned a wide angle Loxia.
Surely high price lenses but still as much vignetting than lens costing the 3rd 😉 for global performance not better than Sigma http://ilovehatephoto.com/2015/03/31/the-mighty-fifties-zeiss-55mm-f1-8-vs-loxia-50mm-f2-vs-sigma-50mm-f1-4/
how about 25 mm?
Joking aside, there is no strict definition where wide angle ends and super wide angle begins. I would rather see super wide angle as a subset of wide angle lenses. A 25mm is much more likely than a 28mm. Some even call 40 and 35mm “normal”.
I would be shocked. Since the Loxia series is just tweaks of existing Leica lenses. I don’t think Zeiss wants to bother designing completely new lenses for E-mount.
The two current Loxia are based on these:
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/zeiss-ikon/biogont235zm.html
http://www.zeiss.com/camera-lenses/en_de/camera_lenses/zeiss-ikon/planart250zm.html
So there are simply no more ZM lens with f/2,0
But I think you are high probability to be correct about 25mm.
2,8/15 costs 4600 USD. So this is out of the picture in my opinion. It’s super niche.
The two remaining realistic guesses are:
2,8/21
2,8/25
I guess it will be either a 25mm f/2 or 21mm f/2.8. I Wish it was already in stock.
This is amazing. You were right all along.
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/official-zeiss-announces-a-new-batis-lens-line-for-sony-fe-25mm-f2-0-and-85mm-f1-8-to-ship-in-summer/
How i wish! Hope all of them f2, except for the 18 or 20mm that could be a bit slower.
Sounds like dreaming to me but a nice one. Maybe a 2,8 would be less improbable…