Yesterday I reported how Sony EU sites like Sony Germany (Click here) and Sony UK (Click here), where claiming Sony E-mount cameras would have built-in on sensor stabilization. One trusted source confirmed that Sony EU sites are currently undergoing big changes on all levels (text, links and images). So the errors you see on the pages right now are being fixed (very slowly).
That said it’s still interesting to note that the on sensor stabilization image has been created from scratch. So something is going on, maybe this image is meant for a future new E-mount APS-C camera?
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Note on the rumors I am working on. It’s harder to usual to grab reliable rumors. Sony is spreading conflicting information to hide the truth. That’s why I prefer to be careful and wait for final proves before to posts specs about the next High End NEX-7 and A77 successor cameras. But they are coming…don’t worry 😉
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Sony is spreading conflicting rumors? Surely this means that either something very big is coming, and Sony is trying to baffle us. OR, this could mean that they are trying to prevent rumor sites like this from spreading how sub-par the new cameras. Im sure most people will hope it’s the former rather than the latter; yet I’m not sure why they would want to do this in the first place…
I was thinking the second option myself, not least because of the lacklustre A5000
Look at the coordinated release strategy and hype build-up for the A7 where Sony got the users into a frenzy concerning a camera they obviously thought would merit the excitement
A deliberate misinformation campaign concerning the NEX-7 and A77 replacements does not bode particularly well
Very brave, if intentional. Unprofessional otherwise.
I find this picture somewhat disappointing. I was hoping for arrows going to the front and back, indicating the z-sensor shift.
High end APSC NEX 7 succ. for 800 Euros? Ehm … No!
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+1 That sounds more like a 6/7 successor…
ehm yes please cheaper the better, I have bills to pay
My understanding from the rumors so far is that Sony will “focus” most of its efforts on AF.
Both the its speed and accuracy. The principal challenge of most mirror-less cameras have been this.
As much as I love my NEX-7, when taking the kids to the park, my old Nikon D90 is still irreplaceable.
When tracking AF is close to mid-range DSLR, only then will mirror-less camera become a real threat to CaNikon.
Lets hope for the best.
Very true. I even forgot about AF option on my NEX.
Indeed, I can thank Sony and my NEX cameras for becoming quite an expert at Focus Peaking focus !! However, both 6 and 7 AF is usable (not that I see any difference between them !) in good light, if a high keeper rate is not crucial. If so, the LA-EA is the way to go…
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Fuji X-T1 can be that camera….
Not until they fix the video. I use it often.
You use video on a camera that’s not been released yet? Impressive.
The specs are know.
No PAL support unfortunately, that is why.
I am not suggesting best in class – all-in bit rate video codec, a la GH3 or Black Magic cameras.
My neighbor shoot some video with his E-P3 on his daughter 1st birthday.
Complete ruined by terrible flicker from the artificial light, only discovered it when he was editing the footage.
Getting the frame rate right for the region you are selling your cameras should be consider a minimum.
Having a good bitrate is nice.
Having a good and efficient codec is more important for video.
Having a good (fast and full sensor preferrably…) sensor read out and sampling algorithm is most important for quality video.
Sometimes there’s too much emphasis on the first, too little on the last point. An FS-700 can show good quality 1080P video at 24 Mbps AVCHD. Are there compromises (mainly in shadows , static video shots and PP lattitude), sure. But it’s still good compared to video from most APS-C/FF DSLR’s. You’d need a RAW hacked mkIII or a Panasonic to beat it in certain areas. Or just shoot the FS700 in RAW of course… but that’s not the point here.
I think it is a mistake. Some stupid guy confused A and E mount and told some other stupid designer to make this picture. None of them know anything about Sony’s cameras. It’s a shame.
I was wondering that as well
It would be pretty bad if true – I increasingly have the feeling that a lot of people in the management chain are not photographers and have absolutely no personal interest in the product they are developing and marketing
That is not just feeling, that’s a fact. The business unit managers and marketing managers know only profit, revenue and market share. A camera is just a tool how to achieve them.
I don’t need IBIS, Z shift sensor or more megapixels.. fast and accurate AF plizzzz!
There’s A-Mount for that.
Fast, yes. Accurate, not particularly. The A700 sensor was far more accurate than the A77.
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Thanks… but small size is important for me.
Small would be nice. I’m a seasons ticket holder at Pittsburgh Steelers games. The rules for bring cameras into that game are “small camera”. The length of the lens is limited to six inches. I have a very good six inch zoom I would like to bring into the game and capture action on the field. I’m hoping Sony makes a “small NEX-like camera” that would be innocuous for me to get into the stadium. It’s the big pentaprizem FF cameras with a long lens that they will not let you use. I got kicked out of the game when I got caught me with my A900 and the Sony 70~300mm G-lens SSM lens. If Sony would make a more light sensitive camera with better auto-focus I could get away with bringing in my 500mm f/8 Mirror Reflex lens or my small (six inch) 210mm zoom.
You could get the Tamron 18-270 into the game, it’s under 6″ and that wide range of focal length would be useful.
Superzoom bridge camera
Autofocus on SLT cameras is in need of significant improvement.
Why not on mirrorless full frame? An A9R with bigger body (but not as big as a DSRL), IBIS, electronic first curtain all wheel/buttons controls. More MP welcome. Well, as to faster autofocus, not a bad thing, but, personally, I use everything (glued) on manual and almost always legacy (Zeiss Leica) lenses
I don’t think it’s possible at all, I mean IBIS in FF E-mount camera. There seems to be no space for the movement or corners will be cropped.
It’s definitely possible for native E-mount lenses, since the rear element is actually inside the mount, nothing is in its way, might not be so easy for SLR lenses though ,especially the ones with a large rear element.
I see, right.. Moreover, because of the shorter register, smaller sensor movements are needed to achieve same effect as on A-mount. Hmm, maybe, maybe..
Or they’re trying to flush out the sources…
The “error” is in the word “All E-Mount”
I still believe the illustration is correct
I want to believe
Good to know that you are working on nex7 successor rumors. But you better hurry and post them well before the official announcement date.
This site is turning more into a news and deals site.
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Sony may be giving sellect people sellect missinformation to see what shows up on rumor sites.
Admin does need to take reasonable steps to protect sources therefore posting every rumor as soon as it comes in might be too risky.
Im glad we have this rumor even though we dont know if it is true.
If this image turns out to be true …the illustration is for a 2 axis ibis …not 5 axis ibis.
Starts to look like we’ll know nothing before the actual announcement at CP+… The XT-1 will be shipping by then, yum !
I can’t wait until you buy an XT-1.
lol
What sources? They are all from Sony sites LOL
Agree. More and more I have the Impression that there are no such “sources”. At least none with insider knowledge. Let’s face it: It is just a few days before the announcement of the Nex 6/7 successor, and all we have is a somewhat suspicious possible price. At this very moment, there must be literally hundreds of people who have already SEEN the final product!
Exactly, the A7 rumours here were clearly a ‘managed’ release – masterfully done by the way – though I think they took it a bit too far as the backlash we are now seeing in some quarters is a rather obvious consequence
Obviously, I’m disappointed the rumor isn’t true but it’s what I predicted so at least I got that much right.
The theory that it’s an upcoming model always made more sense. However, I’ll stick out my neck again and predict it’s not one we’ll see in 2014. Why? Because I can’t see Sony releasing an a7/a7R without IBIS and then release a lower-end a7000 (cheaper than the NEX-7) with IBIS.
Which is too bad. It seems to me IBIS is one final piece Sony needs to trounce the compact camera competition.
Also, it is the one piece to make all the e-mount fans happy screaming for the immediate death of the a-mount but it’s mere existence is an insult. And we all know Sony is all about making e-mount fans happy while ignoring us a-mounters. (That’s a joke, folks, so take it easy! 😉 )
Not sure that it is IBIS that Sony needs to “trounce” the competition.
I would state that it would be fast and accurate AF, specially tracking AF.
Of all the good reviews A7/A7r I have seen, the one common theme that was holding the camera back was AF speed.
It has been the achilles heel of Sony and believe they must address this asap.
Lack of IBIS is what is holding me back from buying a A7/A7r. Hopefully next year…..
I understand. IBIS would be great.
I know people who were “holding back” because it did not come in white.
I was pointing out that in most reviews, the relatively slow AF was mentioned as a negative.
This means Sony has burned all A mount sketches so the illustrator didn’t has a choice but to use the E-mount camera sketch for an A-mount camera, hahaha.
Admin, any news on FW updates for a7r?
Any Sony NAB 2014 rumors yet?
Remember, we still have that mysterious 4k alpha body tease floating arround from last years NAB.
Im trying to figure out if that was a Sony Pro group product of it is intended for Alpha group.
Its just strange that a camera like that would be displayed at NAB
The most interesting thing about those two prototypes from NAB last year is that they featured FZ mounts. The DSLR body had an a-mount adapter with a 24-70 mounted. As far as I can tell, Sony does not (yet) sell an FZ to A-mount adapter. If the 4K a-mount camera is released with an a- mount that unscrews to reveal the FZ mount, this would open up a host if adaptation options including PL mount lenses.
Exactly!!
But which Sony group would control this camera? Alpha? Sony Pro/broadcast?
This would certainly be a very VERY high end DSLR style body and not targeted for any “consumer” market in any way.
So, yeah…I guess this could be Sony Pro’s first “DSLR-ish” product!
How would that make the Sony Alpha department feel?
Hopefully it would signal the beginning of tighter integration, coordination and communication between the departments. The MIS hotshoe sign of this potential coordination. Sony was supporting 3 or 4 different hot shoes. The MIS shoe is greater than the sun of all it’s parts and more advanced than any other camera-makers’ hotshoe. How great is it to feed XLR audio through the shoe and provide phantom power to microphones?
I would imagine this camera would be collaborative but ultimately the alpha group would be producing it, just as the video group produces the e-mount fs100/700 cameras.
As a former Pentax user, I am not so positive about sensor SR: it degrades IQ in some circumstances. It was the case for Pentax (K-5), and there are reports about hyped Oly 5d (or whatever it is called) SR that it causes blur at shutter speed close to 1/100.
It’s better to have it and choose to not use it than not have the option at all. That said, I do not expect e-mount to get it and if it does than it will only be on the aps-c cameras.
Not that simple. Pentax implementation, as well as one of Olympus, doesn’t have an option to fix sensor steadily. So, once switched to NEX I was amazed how sharp images were. My pentax ones always were blurry.
On a-mount, steady shot is a simple menu option, on/ off for stills and on/off for video. I’ve taken tack sharp images and always leave it on for stills, even when tripod or studio shooting. Video steady shot is always off by default on my camera – it is digital and ruins video sharpness.
As I said, you have no option to fix with pentax and olympus (hyped 5-axis). So, if the implementation would be similar to 5-axis, it can lead to always blurry images taken at certain aperture.
For God’s sake: Olympus OM-D, Sony A99. Why so slow Sony?
NOTHING DIFFERENT IS GOING ON THAT’S CAUSING THESE SONY WEBSITE ERRORS THAT HAVE BEEN ONLINE SINCE MID-2012. THEY RARLEY FIX THEM AND YOU JUST DIDN’T NOTICE THEM BEFORE. YOU’RE REACHING
Also – The website is the absolute last thing to get updated.
One of two things may be going on with the mock-up:
Either it refers to digital steady shot (like the a99 video mode steady shot, which is terrible), which may make sense given the graphic indicates it is only on two axises, or a designer confused an e-mount feature for an a-mount feature.
Sony should keep a tight lip on the A77 and expecially their a-mount full frame plans. Thats IF they plan on implementing something breakthrough or class leading. They know SLT, despite its major advantages, is a polarizing technology. I see this as being a hard hand of cards to play.
“…something breakthrough or class leading”
Heard that too often about their A-mount announcements. It’ll be another model with some things added and some useful but expensive to manufacture things taken away.
Judging from the A58 and A99 I think I am going to be underwhelmed by the A77 replacement.
Yeah, I’m feeling the same. I don’t see the massive price increase over the current cost of a A77 justifying a purchase. Unless your pushing the hardware, the A77 is one fine camera. I don’t do enough video to care much about any codec issues either. I just can’t see what “special sauce” would drive a serious buzz around the a77 replacement. 36MP? Whatever, I barely need the 24 I already have. People seem to either be going for smaller cameras or splurging on the full frames- less middle ground purchases these days.
The a77 was $1400 upon release, the successor is rumored to be around that price.
SLT should be fine if they can increase the light transmission (rumored to be 1/3 improvement) plus improve the ISO performance. The combination of those two would make the sensor gain negligible on higher ISO.
The bigger issues are AF performance, AF point coverage, small buffer, crummy video codec / output options and lack of options / poor options in the menu/firmware.
IBIS is paramount and the most important feature to focus on. Want it on FF E mount and all other models.
I’m starting to think that the Picture was made back before the first NEX was released, as a feature that at the end was not included at all
I kind of feel that the A77 replacement really needs 5 axis. I’m not saying it’s necessary, but to push your crop sensor DSLR’s you need something attractive. 36MP might be one, but I think the MP race hype is somewhat over (I wouldn’t mind more though eventually).
Less light through the SLT is great, but for existing A77 owners does it really matter? I’ve never cared about the 1/3rd lose anyhow.
Oh yeah, better ISO- now that is a seller option.
5axis SR is overhyped. In practice it (one of EM-5) turned to be even worse in general than simple IBIS of Panasonic GX7
Why is it overhyped? I haven’t read one long term review that doesn’t cite it’s significant advantages. GX7…..fine camera. I just bought a EPL1 to see if I like the micro 43rds and the 45mm 1.8 for fun. But, if I do like it I’ll lean toward the GX7- good looking and great performance at a much better price than Oly’s offerings.
I agree with you. 5-axis over hyped. For real life use you only need 3-axis IS. Olympus fanboys can see Robin Wong’s omd EM10 review where he says there is practically no difference between 5-axis and 3-axis.
I doubt Sony is intentionally spreading conflicting rumors. This isn’t Apple iPhones… there isn’t going to be a big Steve Jobs presentation with millions of people following the product announcements.
Conflicting information is more likely a result of a lack of a clear path within Sony. Nobody knows — because nothing has been decided. One guy sees a memo about the release of the mirrorless A5000 and spreads the rumors that “A-mount is mirrorless now”… another guy sees a SLT prototype sitting in R&D, and spreads a rumor about it. One guy sees the marketing department doing a work-up that lists as 1200 Euro price, and rumors that it’s going to be the price of the camera. (Though it could just be a fictional number inserted by the art department).
If Sony had an imminent plan and product release, I suspect you’d see more consistent and uniform rumors. The lack of consistent rumors tells me that Sony itself doesn’t know what it is doing yet.
Adam, I totally have to agree with you. I think the only real reason that nothing has leaked out yet, is that Sony is STILL (two weeks from CP+ !!) undecided about which one of the numerous prototypes they’re going to make final and release. Yup, I think they are *that* confused, and that they’re still pondering the announcements of both the XT-1 and E-M10, and trying to decide how to set themselves from the pack.
That’s not very encouraging, AND it means there will be a longer than usual delay between announcement and availability, as nothing might be ready for final production yet !
At least this is how I interpret the total lack of consistent rumor on such a nearby product.
It tells me we certainly won’t see an A-mount announcement any time soon. As to E-mount, the rumors have been far less inconsistent.
Quite a lot of … May-be.
Well maybe Sony will only come up with an A7000/A9000 mockup.
And it may then be intoduces, as a kit with a new faster G-lens later this year.
IMHO such a lens would be, at least, as important as any kind of E-body upgrade.
That might also explain why few details seem to have leaked so far !?
Clearly, the stage is set. The battle will be between the Nex 7 successor and the Fuji X-T1. I don’t care for full frame nor 4/3. The winner will have the best autofocus.
I guess Fuji then?
I will purchase the NEX-6/7 successor provided it has built-in on sensor stabilization and an improved EVF compared with my NEX-6. Faster AF would be a welcome bonus. I would expect 24Mp sensor and the new flash/microphone shoe. I find it frustrating that I lose stabilisation when using my Alpha lenses on my NEX cameras. Damned Tamron even removed stabilisation from their A mount lenses. What a mess.
Удалили, вчера еше была ссылка на стабилизацию матрицы http://www.sony.ru/electronics/obiektivy/sel24f18z
Also gone from the other sites too.
This is not a new image, last year when all the IBIS rumours for the a7 this was on the Sony Australia Website. Don’t know if its still there but when I purchased my a3000 at launch it was in use
If true, that would be great, as that is one of the main things holding me back from purchasing an E-mount camera over other choices (like A-mount and Olympus cameras). I’m still planning on getting the A77 successor, but I could later get an E-mount for situations where I don’t want to carry that much…whereas without IBIS, I might go with an Olympus camera instead.