TheCameraStoreTV posted the first full (video-) review of the A6000 and has really little to complain about the camera. Even the EVF is a positive surprise despite the lower resolution! And the conclusion is quite simple, they say it’s a “fantastic solid product”. Watch the video, it’s really worth to take 8 minutes off from your work to see it!
This is the updated preorder list with US and Europe links:
Sony A6000 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama, BHphoto (Click here), SonyStore (Click here). In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, AT, NL, BE, CH, FI, SE, PT, WexUK.
Silver A6000 at WexUK (Click here).
Sony A6000 with lens at Amazon (Click here), Adorama, BHphoto (Click here), SonyStore (Click here), Sony Canada (Click here), WexUK (Click here).
Silver A6000 with lens at WexUK (Click here).
Sony 70-200mm FE at Amazon (CLick here), BHphoto (Click here), SonyStore (Click here). In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, AT, NL, BE, CH, FI, SE, PT
DSC-H300 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
DSC-H400 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
DSC-HX400 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
DSC-WX350 Black at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
DSC-WX350 White at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
DSC-W800 Black at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
DSC-W800 Silver at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here), BHphoto (Click here).
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These guys keep on making great reviews.
Good points about the interface, maybe some would finally understand why the NEX-7 layout is so special.
Maybe the majority just doesn’t care. Not many people complained about the mode dial on the A7 as either.
Tri-navi is really special. I hope it will return. The people who told Sony that they prefer a modal-dial are probably people that are in auto all the time anyways. And for that you don’t need any dials.
I guess you are right.
Exactly!
What’s wrong with Sony? Are good controls somehow reserved for more expensive “pro” models?
And if there really is so many users who wants the mode dial, why didn’t Sony put one dial to the left and the double dial from NEX-6 to the right?
Lol, I thought exactly the same.
The benefit of a super-aacessible mode dial is for people who go back-and-forth between manual and one of the priority modes. People who photograph in frequently changing light with fast subjects often like one of the priority modes, but also want to quickly change to manual if the priority modes isn’t doing it.
But I agree it doesn’t have to be located where it is on the A6000.
I’d argue that, overall, a dial for each of the three basic settings outweighs any mode dial benefits. Add to that the crappy back dial (as properly described in the video) and the NEX-6 interface only makes sense to cripple the camera towards the low-end.
Yea, if someone switches frequently to M he would also care about dials.
Btw. I find the critique as regards the back dial a little too harsh. It takes about a week to get used to it but after that, there is no accidental triggering while rotating the wheel (unless you have very big hands).
Re:Tri-navi, I personally never used it too much but I see the potential for it. I suspect it will come back in some form. The example I will remind everyone of is Quicknavi, which I loved on my A700 but was absent from a generation or two of SLT bodies but it’s back on my A7 in a bit more of a refined form.
What’s special about it? Does it provide functionality like Fuji’s dedicated dials (including A positions), or are they just extra dials that you can set to shutter, aperture, or ISO while still relying on the virtual mode dial of most NEXes?
What advantage does the Tri-Nav system have over the dials of the Fuji X-E1 or X-T1?
People seem to really like Tri-Nav, but I haven’t figured out why.
It’s special because you have three dials, one for each function. Or two good dials, as the one on the back of the camera is not that great. Compared to Fuji, it’s the same as why every other camera on the market has unlabelled dials – versatility and ergonomics. The tri-navi specifically, you should see for yourself, it covers quite a lot of things. Here’s an overview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GxQBJeXl0g
Any thing new you learned from this review to love it?
nice, but it’s time for clearer Amount rumors now! Thanks!
+1
Damn! I am at work & can’t access youtube. Boo Hoo…
What are the comments about
1. AF in Low Light
2. AF Tracking in Good Light
3. High ISO Performance
Well, I watched the AF test (at 1.45) 1080p full screen and it’s practically uses. He uses such a huge DoF that everything is in focus, including the background trees and distant subjects. I expected more from this review (I enjoyed watching most of their other reviews).
lots of blah blah, nice product, rock solid, several reminders that the tri navy system we want is not there and the reels should be inverted. So, once more a confirmation that this camera is in NO way a replacement for NEX-7. Thanks Sony for the footkick in the butt.
For realz?
It seems to me that people are not really excited to see this camera after the release of the A7. Sony marketing kind of released it backwards. They should really change the person in charge there….
Off-topic. Cameras at the World Press Photo. Interesting to see which Sony cameras were present.
http://hastalosmegapixeles.com/las-camaras-de-los-world-press-photo/
Nice but not surprising. The 5 series got really good with the 5n and the RX is still in its own league. Despite of its age the 5n also holds its used and new value really well… which is sadly also a testament of the lack of improvement in successor models (actually, they were downgrades imo).
Agreed, not really surprising, except maybe the RX1 number. Judging by this data alone, imho, Sonys are still used as secondary cameras.
I’ve always enjoyed their reviews.
so bottom line: a6k sux. NEX-7 is much better except for the menu?
You need to watch it again, lol…
why? i’m happy with my NEX-7 sitting on the shelf from a while.
the menu still sux, but for more then 3 years using it think i know it… but still sux 🙂
nop still a6000 is clearly a better camera for half the price, except for the tri nav.
better for you… for me is only money for nothing 🙂
Watch the vid.
The new camera looks to have considerably better/faster focus and much better higher ISO performance than the Nex 7.
agree, replacing NEX-7 with a6000 is indeed spending money for nuts.
Great news ! I wish the review would have been a bit longer and more in-depth, but overall we learn what we really needed to know, AF really IS super quick, hooray !!
Now I wholeheartedly agree about the TriNavi, and since it disappeared, how it would have been better to have both wheels inverted. The great news is, since Sony seems to have *finally* cracked the AF code, it SHOULD transfer to the true N7 replacement when/if it finally comes !!
Do you have any vision of the N7 replacement camera release date? 😀
2015, 2016?
In the CameraStoreTV video, he says the A6000 is the replacement for the N6 *and* N7. Given they are the firsts to do a full review, they seem to have good contacts to Sony. I’d concude from that: N7 replacement will likely not happen at all.
any reason he’s taking shots at higher iso than necessary?
I think the A6000 will have better jpg processing, raw ISO will prob. be not much diffrent ic with the Nex7 (i own next to a handful other Nexes). The 5N wil still be the champ of the high iso range in raw (not in .jpg)
In the second burst series I have the feeling that the AF focused more on the background and less on the scating man even with a wide angle lens..(bad example?) Also there is not enough talk about the color rendering. I find the second gen sensors (Nex7,5N,F3..) more pleasing and 3d than the later generations (nex6).
I hope to see more examples to convince me before I push the buy buton.
They don’t show any in-depth AF testing despite their claim. A series of three pictures or so of a dark skater in front of white background, that’s it. Continous AF during video?
And high ISO maybe better than before, but no word on low ISO. Looking at the test shots that are around at the moment, the ISO 100 performance seems pretty unimpressive. Compared to similar shots with the NEX 7, they seem pretty mushy to me. Did anyone notice that, too? Hope that has to do with a bad preproduction JPG engine.
My only real fear would be the same very bad jpeg rendition that is exhibited by the A7. That would be a immediate return for me, then…
lol: http://www.imatest.com/2013/11/sharpness-texture-log-f-contrast-imaging-resource/ JPEGs are very good in the new engine, just because you always post images with blue cast in your blog and have become used to them doesn’t mean AWB is supposed to err on the side of blue.
bad jpeg engine on the a7? uhm..no. just turn noise reduction off, set the colors you want and et voila, doesnt look so much different from fuji cameras and waaay better than my 5d 3 does.
Yep, I’m confused about the bad JPG claims you keep making, Claire.
The only site I know of that heavily criticised the JPGs was DPReview, but then they freely admitted that they did not turn off High ISO NR (which by the way seems to affect low ISO JPGs) on the basis that “On” was the default setting! Unbelievable, Jeff! I assume they left all the other settings on the camera at default too, right? Of course not. For a supposed professional review site, it actually verges on pathetic.
Did you turn off High ISO NR, Claire?
maybe something was wrong with your camera. I find that even the lowest quality jpeg turns out pretty good. I normally shoot raw only but now I plan to shoot raw & jpeg because I find the jpegs very nice. I did tweak them a bit in camera with saturation, sharpness and contrast.
Check out http://www.dcfever.com/sony/readnews.php?id=9928 (loading takes some time…), scroll down to the photos of the girl and download the originals. Even the EXIF says ISO 100, but look at the colour noise, the mushy skin tones, the JPG artefacts. What’s that? The NEX 7 was way better.
The AF tracking test is just ridiculous. He’s photographing subjects in 20m distance and the camera more or less leaves the focus at infinity. Notice the sharp trees in the background. In that scenario, I can get a similar hit rate with MF. Try again and this time, let them come closer such that you get a separation from the background. If that still works, I will be convinced. If it still works at less light than in sunny daylight, I will be excited.
(However, it’s still good news that someone who used the camera says the AF won’t disappoint us.)
The arrangements of the two top dials is just so stupid that it makes me think noone ever tested the camera before it was released. Here’s hoping that Sony will soon release a slightly upgraded Alpha 6000 MKII where the dials are exchanged.
dear sony here my wiches for the new A79
Image sensor of 36mo px without filter like a7r
remove semi transparent miror
can choose in manual the limit of auto iso to not go don or up.
in manual shutter speed change by itself if i zoom for exemple like if i shoot 70mm minimum shutter speed 1/70, if i zoom at 200mn shutter speed change at 1/200mm and camera will push iso more hight…
same fast focus and coverage area like a6000
wifi, nfc and pc remote like a6000 + gps :p
a big buffer for can support at least 3sec in rafal
11fps or more
sync x : 1/250 or more
shutter speed : 1/8000 or more
camera who work nice with trigger and flash and develop your one trigger !!!!!!
When the summer intern shows up at Sony corporate to finish the a79 project you have a decent chance to get some of that. 😉
The SLT vs. mirrorless is still up in the air. Early rumors made mirrorless look a slam-dunk but more recently it appears Sony is sticking with SLT. I suspect one reason (other than Sony’s continuing saga of a-mount mismanagement and neglect) is Sony engineers are struggling to make it work (or near-bankrupt Sony doesn’t want to put the money into the change).
I’d like to see mirrorless if for no other reason to take away one of the e-mounters talking points to bash a-mounts with. 😉
I’m all about IQ so I want more useable resolution/detail, sharpness, and superior high-ISO. Unfortunately, the a6000 doesn’t look like Sony has raised the high-ISO bar by much.
I’m hoping for a decent and affordable a-mount FF but Sony’s direction in a-mounts for 2014 isn’t rumored to be affordable, just the opposite. The a7R gave me hopes of the possibility of an a-mount FF with the potential for outstanding IQ. Add in the a-mount advantage of IBIS and AF (whether SLT or transferring the a6000’s tech to a new mirrorless a-mount). It could be quite a package if priced right.
As a practical matter, I expect the much ballyhooed high ISO advantages of mirrorless over SLT to be mostly boast. There’s so much risk of Sony doing mirrorless badly and hosing up a-mount bodies. What we don’t need is another albeit slightly bigger butt-ugly uninspired rectangle with poor ergonomics like the NEX/axxx. I also don’t want them to hose up the AF though the a6000 looks encouraging Sony has figured it out for mirrorless.
It doesn’t hurt to ask here. I get the impression Sony’s ever-incompetent marketing department doesn’t do proper market research but they do informal research like reading a fan blog such as SAR. I suspect a lot of the rumors fed to SAR directly or indirectly (e.g., some of the undependable Japanese camera nerd fan rags) is Sony corporate feeding trial balloons to gauge fan reaction.
P.S. to Admin. Another request to replace your crappy captcha plug-in. 50% fail rate today including one case where the crappy plug-in didn’t even give me letters to enter. I’m pretty sure it failed at least once when I entered the letters correctly. On my PC obviously I can simply remember to copy the text before submitting (which I typically do) but on my smartphone this is awkward.
Oh man, this camera looks so promising and I just can’t wait to have it. Anyway, considering that the MAJOR new revolutionary feature is the superfast AF one could have wished for a more careful and deepgoing review of just this feature. The samples with the second skater show that the AF is more on the background. User error I hope.
Not mentioned much is video. Looking at other reviews, it has clean HDMI out and less moire and aliasing than previous Sony cameras. Will be interesting to see if it is doing proper pixel binning (rather than current a-mount style line skipping) for the video reduction.
I really wonder what it does on Zeiss Biogon lenses. It was nex7’s epic fail…
Haha it’s an epic fail that a lens designed for another camera system and film is the NEX7’s problem? I have the 25 zm and used it on the nex7. The color shift was fairly consistent (unlike on the a7r) so it was easy to correct. Even leica’s sensor requires in camera color correction. Lets just chalk this up as the biogon design is for a different era.
Biogon = symmetric design. What you want is a Distagon = retrofocus design. W.Rokkor 17/4 works great on my A7.
All digital sensors will be impacted by light hitting them at oblique angles.
Some lenses do work better than others, as well. The M-Rokkor 28/2.8 shows some magenta corners but retains good detail and under normal shooting corrections, the images are perfectly usable without correction.
how is the buffer of this camera? where they shooting jpeg? it looked very good to me in the vídeo!
I really like their reviews. Practical and unbiased.
The encouraging thing is Sony has figured out AF so we’ll see improvements across product lines moving forward.
Otherwise, the a6000 looks like what I expected it to be. Nice but not a really compelling upgrade. What I find discouraging is it doesn’t seem like Sony has reached a high ISO point where that excites me. I’d hoped the a79 might make some strides there but now my expectations are lowered.
Well, Sony has answered Fuji’s challenge in AF so they remain in the game.
Here is a little write up from their website about the video…check it out…sums it up by saying”
“If you’re looking for a compact camera with professional image quality, crazy fast AF, and a clever control system, check out the A6000. It’s the most bang for the buck in mirrorless cameras right now!”
http://www.thecamerastore.com/blog/sony-a6000-hands-on-field-test-.aspx
Cant wait to see the comparison with the 7. If this is a Nex6 replacement cant wait for the Nex7 replacement… 36mpxl? Hell, what do i know. Hoping they will keep the tri-navi. Call me old school but im satisfied already with the handling/rangefinder design of the nex6 & 7 than the A7(r). So im staying with the NEX/AK’s. 🙂
Looks really “special.”
That’s great and the A6000 really looked promising but where is the lens roadmap? Moreover, without a A7000 you get improvements but end up giving up high-end stuff, it really feels like Sony is missing the point.
This camera seems to hit most of the key features, you are lacking three dials versus two, and a mic input and headphone out compared to the NEX 7 or A77 so in that sense not a king of the hill APS-C camera, but you do get the much improved AF, clean HDMI out and can get pretty good mic inputs if you are willing to pay the bucks, plus tethering. This looks to be a very good choice for the new Dad crowd. The complaint most mirrorless get is slow focus and noise. It likes some noise improvement over the NEX 7, and of course much better focus, perhaps as good as the A77, maybe better, will need low light test to really know. Plus the price is very good for what you are getting. The RX10 has a lot of draw for the same shooter but the price just takes it off to many peoples lists. This is not a camera for me or my wife, I already have a better camera and it is too big for the wife but I can see lots of buyers.
I do think it’s a great camera and I really liked the new AF and even more the AF-C, it seems to work just great in video – finally, because those focus hunting is simply anusable.
But those very things you listed are the things that are missing and it was supposed to be a camera with exactly that, that’s what a high-end camera is. It has better controls and more feats, but Sony just want us to buy their FF, even if we don’t want it or need it. You won’t have more controls, no mic input, no headphone jack UNLESS you buy FF and pay premium for it. Heck the latest lens for APS-C are basically Zeiss and they are all expensive, this is a big “eff you” from Sony to any user that wants a high-end camera and good lenses but can’t pay premium for every lens or can’t afford or don’t even need FF.
What kind of treatment is that towards users? That’s just awful care by Sony, no lens roadmap either, letting consumers in the dark for more than 2 years now. There is no way to take Sony serious because this is just history repeating itself, most A-mount users already gave up because Sony simply gave up on them. Now Sony’s focus is E-mount FF, who knows what’s next.
It’s indeed a great camera, but cameras alone don’t make a system.
I love the review from these guys, but this one was a bit short, and their AF test is practically useless. Basically, in the first AF test (at 1.45) DoF is so deep, that everything’s in focus. It boggles the mind how they can call this an AF test. The trees in the background are just as much in focus as the subjects he photographed.
I love the review from these guys, but this one was a bit short, and their AF test is practically useless. Basically, in the first AF test (at 1.50) DoF is so deep, that everything’s in focus. It boggles the mind how they can call this an AF test. The trees in the background along with more distant sucjects are just as much in focus as the subjects he photographed. What’s next? Testing autofocus at F/11 and hyperfocal distance?
Looks like I may not be getting the fuji x-t1 anymore. I will still test it to make sure but in a few months I can probably get this camera for 500.00 plus the 24mm 1.8 can be gotten on ebay for 600.00 with some luck. He said it has better high iso than the nex-6 so that is more than good enough for me. I never go over 6400 and shoot raw so looks like this will be my A7 back up.
For the money, if this camera performs as advertised, it should become the best selling E mount camera yet. Nothing is perfect, but this looks good.
the camera looks promising. sony and fuji now show fast auto focus and tracking are doable in mirrorless. the kit lens is too weak to match the body.
http://www.thecamerastore.com/blog/sony-a6000-hands-on-field-test-.aspx
It seems that X-T1 is better for continuous AF!
Really useless review.
I think he got the camera, tried it for few minutes and posted this non sense inf.
Non of what he mentioned we don’t know.
What about the ISO increments, is the A6000 the same as the rest of the NEX cameras or now you can go by 1/3. What about the custom keys. How does this C button work? How is the JPEG processing? How is the focus in low light? Is it hunting like the NEX-7? Did you try it with other slow focusing lenses like the SEL35F18 and the SEL50F18 that most of us have.
He is talking about the camera specification that we all know.