A couple of years ago this would have been impossible: Canon using Sony sensors 🙂
Well the new Canon G7x “unofficially” uses the same 20 MP sensor from the RX100. And the guys from TheCameraStoreTV compared it against the new Sony RX100M3. Wanna know if Canon managed to beat the cam? Watch the video 🙂
RX100M3 store links:
RX100M3 in USA at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, Sony USA and FocusCamera.
RX100M3 Eu at Sony DE, UK, ES, FR, IT, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, NO, FI, PT. And Wex UK,
RX100M3 in Asia at Amazon Japan and Sony Australia.
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Although I’m happy with my RX100III, there are many things that should be improved:
+ The metal chassis is prone to scratching, the paint coat is not protective enough. I wish it were plastic (to save more weight).
+ Touch screen. I want touch screen to be standard on all Sony cams. It’s annoying to move the focus point by the wheel
+ Bigger EVF
+ 24-70 should be fine, but 100 is even better. But don’t make a compromised len like the G7X
Welcome to planet Sony. Fancy shiny cameras that scratch the next day after your purchase. It’s all about the looks- taking pictures is a secondary feature.
Welcome to Sony, everything is amazing and nobody is happy *sigh*
haha
Nonsense, Nonthinking. I’ve owned and heavily used my A700 for nearly seven years now, with nary a scratch and many a great image. And Sony cameras have gotten better and better, including their build and their IQ. By the way, check out the ratings for repair frequency in Consumer Reports.
Let me fix that statement. I was refering to to Sony’s mirror less options.
And if it were plastic you would complain that it’s not steel, and it has a viewfinder so a touch screen is unnecessary. Either way you would be complaining, it’s what you do Kangoo Fool.
It’s not steel right now as it is. Steel is crazy.
I’m against plastic too, but the insult is completely unnecessary.
Touch To Focus is useful regardless of an eye level viewfinder. You better should not calling others a fool by posting foolish statements. 😉
How do you know the G7X lens is compromised? These two clowns? Hah.
I have been watching the Canon G7X since its introduction. Many reviews (DPReview, CameraLabs, ImagingResource) have pointed out weakness in G7X wide-end, which was the sole reason I bought the RX100III.
So you bought something vs something else without even trying it? And you based your choice on corner sharpness or other nonsense, instead of important stuff like usability? I am too nice to tell you what you are.
How do you know it is nonsense or not? In my country the Canon G7X is not available yet and it costs quite a lot for most people, so I must check carefully before I decide to replace it.
I bought the RX100III to shoot landscape because I cannot wait the FE 16-35, so corner sharpness and wide open performance are the most important to me.
What’s wrong with usability anyway? I use it normally without any trouble. I am too nice to reply to such people like you.
I’m flabbergasted at the G7X manual focusing speed, what were they thinking. Also both the aperture ring and focusing ring make such LOUD clicks, what’s up with that.
The G7X auto focusing system is a generation or two behind the Sony, overall it’s a bit disappointing. Was expecting a much closer performance comparison, Canon better work out these issues before releasing a “large” sensor mirror-less camera. And I wish they would be more forthcoming about what exactly a “large” sensor means.
The new Canon Groete Zoom will use the 1″ Sony sensor.
It’s odd, the cameralabs review claims the G7X AF is faster than the RX100.
The demonstration shown in the video clearly shows the RX100M3 to be significantly faster, not even close.
I’m wondering if they forgot to turn face detection off on the Canon.
You could post that question on the Youtube video link, they will likely reply and set the record strait if that were the case.
Im pretty much sure that the dpreview will LOVE IT!! 😀 They will praise the handling of the cam over the sony…just alone this ridiculously loud clicking will be the reason for a dpreview gold award 😀
I’m more impressed with this video given it was shot on the A7S than the review. It looked superb- this guy is impressed over here.
Indeed, the most fascinating thing about this video for me too was that it was shot with an A7s!
The Canon site headlines all say Sony beat the Canon.
Canon has their work cut out for them if they are serious about challenging Sony’s A7 cameras. The A7 & A7r will likely be updated first quarter of 2015, and the Canon large sensor mirror-less will be competed with these updated models.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ competing ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
correction.
Considering how well Sony A7 sells, Sony will likely drag the update as long as they can to see what their competitors comes up with.
Sony tends to update their best sellers faster, so the opposite could be true. Which doesn’t rule out the option of keeping the A7 in the lineup at a cheaper price, similar to the RX100 series.
This definitely looks like a battle of the 1 inchers, judging by the video frame 😛
Something you could relate to on a personal level.
“A couple of years ago this would have been impossible: Canon using Sony sensors”
That’s nonsense. Canon has always used Sony (and other) sensors in p&s cameras.
Canon only makes APSC and larger sensor themselves. Canon buys rest of the smaller sensor from others. Even Canon S90, 5 years ago, was Sony CCD sensor.
True. The very first Canon enthusiast compact (G1) already had a Sony sensor.
In other news: Konica Minolta patents a medium format lens: http://egami.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2014-09-09
the KM lens is for a mirrorless camera!
the Sony lens is clearly sharper and has much less CA. That’s about the main difference for me regarding image quality.
Without an EVF theCanon F7x maybe competes with the first generation RX100 but not the mark3
We all know that you wouldn’t post any review that wasn’t favourable for Sony… there are plenty reviews out there which criticise some Sony products…but they never seem to make it to this website!! I wonder why? Blatant propaganda!
That is not true at all. Admin posts countless reviews beeing negative or positive. Maybe the problem for you is that Sony gets more positive reviews lately because they make great cameras? Well, I guess you should blame Sony for that, but not the admin.
Oh and just in case you don’t like positive Sony reviews at all, you don’t have to read this site then and move ahead to your preferred brand.
you like negative review about Sony’s camera? well it’s time to read Ren Kockwell then….
haha, good point.
Blatant propaganda …. (Facepalm)
Haters gonna hate. As always.
The biggest trolls and detractors of Sony Products seem to be Sony users.
You want to get on SAR more often!
Just mention the word ‘firmware’ or ‘lenses’ on any SAR comments board and stand back 😀
The upside of this of course being that the comments section from SonyAlphaRumors is always entertaining, whereas CanonRumors is one big sleepfest.
I really Hope RX100M3….M4 can wirelessly remote TTL control external flash although it may not have hotshoe/MI.
What I really don’t get: Why does Sony not incorporate touch screen on EVF models. With Panasonic cameras you can use the blacked out touch screen to set the AF point while looking through the VF. Much easier and quicker than buttons and wheels.
The RX100M3s UI is already compromized due to its size. It’s beyond me why they wouldn’t assign any meaningful function to the screen while in EVF mode.
Too bad Panasonic LX100 didn’t have touch screen, would be super useful then.
From the inside, the RX100III is far better than the G7X, but from the outside the opposite is the case. Except the lack of a viewfinder, the G7X has better ergonomics (touch to focus, exposure compensation dail, clicking control dial), at least in my book. I love Sony for their innovation in camera technology, but they are still inferior in terms of ergonomics.
No, don’t wanna know, yo.
The Canon has superior usability, as usual. It also has a more useful zoom range. The Sony has a viewfinder, probably not a very good one. The jpg settings differ between these two cams.
Nothing else can be said, except that these guys should get a real job.
+1
It’s a source of constant fascination that so many people use product forum sites, not as a source of information or informed debate, but as en expression of their own tribalistic nature. This identification with brands is surely just another manifestation of group identity. Like nationalism, or devotion to a sports team.
I suspect it tells us quite a bit about human nature. Of course, what it tells us absolutely nothing about is photography…
True. And videos like this are so useless (unless it was paid publicity, which it probably is).
Oh the irony of that reply…
Yes, no one should ever produce anything that isn’t of use to me and doesn’t confirm my opinion or prejudice, other people might develop different tastes and ideas from mine and worse, I might learn something and, God forbid, alter my opinion.
Yes. But I enjoy watching Chris’ useless videos a lot. Wait, this makes them not useless, right?
Totally true. The last sentence is pretty obvious though, because you said “product forum sites” earlier, which of course are not photography forum sites. So, it is about the gear and not photography. 😉
But you might hope it would tell you something about photographic equipment. As it is, they often seem more like football fan sites.
What’s the point of having the wider range if it is so poor – soft!
Canon chose to put a poor soft lens with wider range purely for marketting purposes. This way they can market this ‘advantage’ while the poor quality is not imediately visible until you buy one of these. Unfortunatley for them the G7X will get a poor name as fast as their EOS-M camera.
Just like the G1X II as well.
So you two geniuses tested G7X and G1X2 and concluded they have “poor soft lenses”? LOL I happen to have a G1X and it’s great.
You must’ve very low expectations then.
I hope you are right. Then I can get a G7X very cheap next year. 😉
Canonitis: Noun/Latin origin – To never go the full step you really need to innovate and take over the market.
Canon already dominates the market, and is one of two camera makers to be profitable. I guess every other camera manufacturer would give everything they had for a little canonitis.
yeah well McDonalds makes billions of dollars on it’s “lowest-common-demoninator” burgers that doesn’t mean its better than the restaurants that are trying to provide something better. Profit does not always equate to quality, often quite the opposite.
“To never go the full step – you really need to innovate and take over the market.”
My understanding of this is that an innovation that takes over the market is NOT a full step.
Canon has used Sony sensors for years in their compact cameras and thats a fact. So it’s not some fantastic news that they use a Sony sensor.
7m:12s “Oh Jordan, that’s so nyeece!”
LOL!