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(SR5) UPDATED: Two new fixed lens Sony cameras to be announced within the next 1-2 months.

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The indonesian agency Postel registered two yet unannounced new Sony digital still cameras. This means we can expect these two new cameras to be announced within the next 1-2 months already. That registration has to be done by Sony in advance before to sell Wifi capable devices to the public.

UDPATED: Those two new codes are for fixed lens cameras. But trusted sources confirmed “Big” stuff is coming soon. So far I can tell you that I got RX, QX and E-mount camera rumors only (no A-mount). More info on the new cameras hopefully coming soon on SAR 😉

P.S.: Postel info found by SAR and at the same time by Digicameinfo.

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  1. And why are you sure these are not some point and shoot cameras, they release dozens of them yearly?

        1. Yes I got some info. But let me doublecheck it before to post it. It’s too big to post it unconfirmed. SAR people would hate me if I am wrong on this 🙁

          1. this is a rumor site… no one will blame you for “wrong” rumor… so, please share!

          2. We hate you for all the spam, not for supposed to be true or false rumors, rumors are rumors.

      1. Well, I and I guess many others are interested in that solid info, instead of two vague “Digital Still Camera” registrations.

    1. UPDATED: Sources told me those two code is for fixed lens cameras (not for QX). But there are new interchangeable cameras coming too!

  2. Seems that one is QX, if there is any consistency within their model numbers. QX1 started with 24, all A7 cameras had 32 for first two digits. If this means anything at all.

  3. Maybe the A5, the A9, A7r2, A7s2, or maybe maybe the camera I’m really dreaming for: A5s without the viewfinder hump but with that glorious A7s sensor, plus 5-axis IBIS of course 😉

    1. hahahaha. I don’t think we could see any time soon an A5s. If there is an A5 it would be targeted to as an entry model and it would use the most common sensor, I guess.

      1. Sure, that would be the A5. But a compact A5s version would be glorious. They can charge whatever they want. All that lowlight performance power deserves to be more coat pocketable. I love my A7s, it is the best stills camera ever made, but that viewfinder hump is the bane of my existence. I can fit it in my coat pockets, even with rather large lenses, but that damn hump is ripping up the insides of my coat pockets, and making it difficult to fit in and out, let alone adding that extra unsightly bulk as I walk around. I love my camera so much, but every time I look at that hump I wish it were gone, and I imagine what could be.

        1. i was seriously thinking about using my saw machine on that ugly bump, but i could not find a video confirming it wont cut some vital circuitry, i can live without the shoe, but also its so close to the dial, so better wait for the a5

    2. I’m drooling. However, a compact A5s will remain a dream.

      But on the other hand, I never even remotely thought that Sony would have the balls to bring a camera like the A7s to the market. So we never know, everything is possible…

  4. Are there any reviews on KW1 camera? I want to see lab tests of the curved sensor. Initially it didn’t look good in the corners

  5. More and more sign that the A-mount is bleeding to death !!! to bad Sony, not everyone want Emount FF stuff.

    1. Yup. No A mount rumors again. Time for all those A mount hopefuls to invest in E mount and an adapter.

      1. if A-Mount is truly dead then why keep investing in a company that has left its users hung out to dry? If A-mount is really dead then Sony wont get anymore of my money. The only way i could contemplate moving to E mount is if they made an adapter that was A LOT better then the current LEA4

        1. With You for the first, not for the Adapter when it comes to honest behaviour.
          Sony can’t tell us they are working on A-mount which will arise to their pro line and then vomit a cheap adapter toy forcing you to enter the E-mount and admit they were right in their behavior /strategy . That would be too much. Better quit the relationship and move on.

    1. Nope. Interchangeable lens cameras usually get registered few days before or few days after the announcement.

      1. Well, I hope for once that the actual release date is very very short after announcement, people are already waiting a very long time for the A7000.

        1. There hasn’t been one single solid leak about an A7000. Why are people ‘already waiting a very long time’ for this non-existent camera?

          1. These people have waited for the NEX-7 successor since the day the NEX-7 was announced. That’s what gearheads do.

          2. Personally, I don’t understand why people think there needs to be another level between the a6000 and the FF models. The a6000 is a pretty stellar, advanced camera! Sure there are things that could be added, things that have come about since its release, but those are things that could simply be included in its successor, which is probably only a year away anyway.

          3. It seems to me that the #1 thing that people liked most about the NEX-7, and which is lacking in the A6000, are the Tri-Navi controls. They want a flagship APS-C model with those controls, but with all the technological advancements that have been made since the NEX-7 was released.

          4. That’s fair. And bring back the digital level! It frustrates me that I have that in the NEX6, but it went AWOL in the a6000. Minor complaint overall, but it’s a really useful feature – I used it on pretty much all my other Sony cameras.

          5. I totally agree. I expect an A6100 and that’s about it. I don’t understand why so many people fail to see Sony already released the NEX-7 successor… it’s called the A7. That’s how Sony see it.

    2. The registration is required for WiFi-capable devices, so cameras without WiFi may still be around the corner.

        1. You mean “bottom”…
          By the way, your logic doesn’t make much sense to me.
          Those cameras could be as well other compact cameras models.

    1. My RX100 was made in Japan… but I believe the later versions (II & III) were made in China. Possibly they could have move the RX1 production to China as well for the Mark II.

  6. “So far I can tell you that I got RX, QX and E-mount camera rumors only”.

    So post them please! You don’t need to triple check, double checking is fine. 😉

    If you’re seriously worried about upsetting people if the rumours are wrong, then post it at a lower SR rating. If anybody is upset by a low rated rumour that proves to be false, that’s their problem!

    1. He doesn’t really have rumours or contacts. He’s just a guy checking Japanese websites and guessing the rest. 😉

    1. Updated models with improved SLT mirror, 4K A-mount camera, z-shift camera, A/E-mount hybrid camera. They were all rumored to be released in “the year of the A-mount”, i.e. 2014.

      1. What I find amusing is the constant excuses for the lack of A-mount stuff… Sony pretending as if they are still developing A-mount, and expecting a few crumbs to keep A-mount users satisfied. Meanwhile, gradually A-mount loses customers as its users get tired of waiting around. If they released an A99ii at Photokina, as had been rumored, I would still be primarily using A-mount. But I, like many others, got tired of waiting.

  7. Just how stupid are Sony ?

    They have two very different camera systems, used for very different photography, yet they totally ignore one of them. Sony could be world leaders in both camps with just a little effort.

    1. It would be a waste of Sony’s limited resources to focus on two different, mutually exclusive systems. Better for them as a company to focus on the more promising technology that will pay dividends in the future. It looks like they are putting their eggs in the E mount basket and letting A mount die it’s slow death.

      1. They don’t really need to develop the A mount…just market them for what they are….great DSLR cameras!!!! Such a shame they are too blinkered with E mount to appreciate what they’ve got.

        1. They do market the A-mount. In my local store the boxes with A99 and A77M2 cameras are clearly visible behind the other boxes that they have piled in front of them, at least if you stand on your toes.

    2. They only have one system. I use A and E mount lenses with no issues and have A and E mount bodies too…….Nikon and Canon guys buy E mount so Sony focus more R&D there. That is normal given the sales figures. A99 is not all that bad and price is ok lately. A77M2 is not bad either.

      What else should be build for A mount?

      ..or I guess you live to be unhappy…..If you want a new camera get A6000 – it is fun to use produces superb images, is very light, focuses fast….You can keep an A99 or A77M2 next to it…

      1. If Sony were to build a DSLR sized E-Mount and a proper LA-EA adapter, i’d have no trouble switching mounts, but right now, A6000 feels like a cheap toy and would be horrible with my F2.8 zoom SAL1650, and a Tamron 70-300 USD.
        Native lenses have atrocious drive-by-wire AF.

        Heck, i’d probably even buy A5100 in addition to a DSLR sized E-Mount camera. After all, having something more compact that also uses the same mount would be great, but that’s just a bonus. I bet the A6000 body would flex badly, if I mounted LA-EA4 and a Tamron 70-300 USD on it and tried to hold it with one hand by the camera grip, when carrying it around, like I do on my A65.

        1. Exactly right Stan, couldn’t agree more. Sony are making high priced cameras for the mass market who mostly (not all of course) just want something they can show off when taking snapshots of their food, family, street and surroundings..and don’t care how much it costs them.
          BTW, I carry my cam just like you do but with the weighty 70-300G lens on it. Pretty sure these lightweight cams with their adapters would fall apart if that was tried.

    3. “…with just a little effort”

      You obviously have no clue how expensive and how risky it is to bring a new camera to the market. Especially if that market is shrinking rapidly! So please educate yourself a little before calling them stupid.

      1. They should put their loyal fans first, not be greedy and prioritize profit, revenue, market share and other purely commercial concerns. It’s not about making money, it’s about supporting the photography world.

        1. I wish the world would be better than she is. But I never heard of a company who had the goal to support the photography world. Profit is the absolute priority in any big company. That’s called capitalism.

          Or maybe I missed the sarcasm. LOL

      2. Try educating yourself to read before making statements. I have said that Sony DON’T need to bring new A mounts…Just market the great ones they already have ……. Properly!

        1. What constitutes ‘properly’? Full page ads in the press? Superbowl commercials? Encouraging people to buy into a system that they seem to be phasing out?

          1. Exactly…SEEM to be phasing out!!…Who knows. Sony could well have a brand new A99ii up their sleeve then when no one wants to know because of Sony’s crass marketing of their A mount line up, Sony will say no one wants their cams. It’s self destruction at it’s worst…and Sony just don’t seem to see it. Sony have a really good A mount range, especially the A77ii, which are a different breed to the E mount, but Sony has those E mount blinkers on and refuses to see that there are different types of photography than what the E mount is capable of.

      3. well they churned out mostly needless nex cameras, the qx thing, seriously how well does that sell? or the rx1.
        if you look at sensors, then a99s 12mp with updated focus system, boom great sports camera.
        a99r 36mp, boom d800 competitor
        give both 5 axis ibis.
        oh geeze i just raided the parts bin and made 2 *killer* dslrs
        so yeah e mount qx blinkers

        1. ahmmm….
          The “needless” NEX cameras were sold like hotcakes.
          As far as I know, the RX1 had much higher sales than Sony expected.
          The QX was/is exploring a new market.
          Investing in new markets is risky and may be fail at the end, but it is defintively not stupid in my book.
          The A99 already failed as a CaNikon competitior.
          Investing in a shrinking market that is already dominated by two very capable brands is not very smart.

          1. we have had more refreshes of nex style cameras and their slightly different models than needed.
            the a99 is ok, and really think how well the a7r, d800 series has sold, and think the 1dx and d4s. sony has never even tried to compete against those, while sat on the table is the parts to make better cameras, and they could go to zeiss and get the otus’es in a mount.
            they would then have the best dslr cameras and a couple of lens updates and they could have a super compelling system for pro’s and advanced amatures.
            so really the investment needed todo that is minimal, and that high end dslr market probably buys more lenses than low to mid end nex user.

          2. OK, I’ll tell you what I think (Even if I get bashed by half of the SAR readers): The reason is not, that Sony wasn’t/isn’t trying hard enough to compete with DSLRs. They put much effort in to the A99. The reason is that the whole SLT concept failed on the market. A few liked it, but the big majority prefers real DSLR (with an OVF) in a camera body that has the size of a DSLR.

            In other words the switch from DSLR (a900) to SLT (A99) did not work.

            When it comes to lenses, I totally agree that Sony did not enough to compete with CaNikon.

            Now, as the DSLR market is shrinking rapidly, it is too late.

  8. I hope for perfume bottle with interchangeable e mount for selfies with new fe35! I always wanted mc sonnar 180 f2.8 on my perfume bottle via pentacon six- e mount adapter for bokeh selfishes.

  9. just dreaming here
    i hope the RX its the rx100w im still waiting since the first version for a waterproof one, but it will be a rx10II most likely or the rx1 with curved sensor, or any other prototype but the rx100w 🙁
    also about that next QX, since sony its killing or at least reducing A bodies, could they make a QX with A mount, 1″ sensor and a built in speed booster between them, so we can use all A legacy glass hapily after
    and for E, just release the a5 line and the better than everythingelse a9 with 5 axis IS, 54mp, a6000 AF or better, bigger memory buffer, built int ratio wireless flash control and make coffee and pancakes 😉
    thats all genius lamp, my 3 wishes, or shall i use one wish to wish more wishes…….

      1. Yhats why your first wish is foe thw ability to time travel at will. Go back for more wishes whenever you want; )

    1. My guess: There will be no RX100″W”. Maybe some partially weather sealing, but the retractable lens would be very hard to seal.

      1. Oh boy. You must have missed the news about Sony’s curved sensors (and the patent for the lens for it) from last year.

        1. 7/7/2014 “Soon to be announced curved sensor RX1s has similar A7s noise performance”

          This says it all…

          1. I was referring to Sony’s announcement they were developing curved sensors, and the patent Sony filed for a 35mm lens that uses a full frame curved sensor. I don’t pay much heed to the posts that look like obvious guesses.

  10. A-mount..
    2+ years since the A58. Approaching 1 year since the A77ii.
    If we are going to at least see A-mount kept on life support with a new release every 12-15 months, then I would at least hope to at least see an A58ii or A99ii in the next 3 months. The A58 particularly — as it was a stripped down camera even upon release — has really outlived it’s usefulness.

    1. ..?

      as far as I recall, both nikon and canon are even slower in their hardware update cycles (although the latter is noticeably more so than the former..).

      I think people are losing perspective here: just because the a7 was updated within a year doesn’t mean this is in any way normal..indeed, most considered it anomalous as far as hardware updates are concerned.

      at the Sony store I frequent where I live, most of the display space is devoted to the A mount stuff, with like one display case for A7 series. Granted, this is because all the FE stuff FITS in one case, but I think you get me..

      1. Sony A58 — Feb 2013 announced. 25 months, no replacement in sight.
        Sony A65 — August 2011. 3 1/2 years ago, discontinued with no replacement.
        Sony A77 — August 2011, replacement announced May 2014 — 2.5 years
        Sony A99 — September 2012 — 2.5 years old, no sign of an update.

        Canon is pretty slow, but is constantly releasing new and more products. They don’t go 12-18 months without a single new camera body.

        Nikon is much faster than Sony:
        Nikon D3200 — April 2012 — D3300 — January 2014. About 20 months
        D5100 April 2011 — D5200 – January 2012 – D5300 – Oct 2013, D5500 — Jan 2015. So for mid level, Sony’s last camera was 3.5 years ago, and discontinued. Nikon has released 4 mid-levels in that time frame.
        D7100 — Feb 2013. D7200 — March 2015. Just barely over 2 years.
        D800 – Feb 2012. D810, June 2014. Under 2.5 years for their A99 equivalent.
        D600 – Sept 2012 – Replaced by D610 (mostly due to oil issue) on October 2013 – then the D750 (which many see as a D610 upgrade) on September 2014.

        If you used the Nikon timetable…. then the A58 is already nearly a year overdue for an upgrade. The A65 should have seen 2 new successors by now. The A77ii was just a few months late. A companion to the A99 (A88?) is long overdue, and the A99 itself is a few months overdue.

        1. A-mount is dead. I suspect we might see an A99 successor, but then that’s likely it. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t even see that, but rather a new, totally reworked LA-EA4 successor combined with a top notch e-mount body (A9) so they can offer A-mount performance to the A-mount crowd, but with finally just ceasing A-mount production. That’s all just speculation, of course, but I think it’s clear that the writing is on the wall for A-mount; it’s just a matter of when – now, or two years from now?

          1. I agree, but I hope I’m wrong. They will keep selling the A77ii for a couple more years. During that time, they can’t admit the A-mount is dead. They *might* piece together an A99ii, but that is starting to look less likely.
            I do suspect we will see an A9 paired with a new adapter that makes the most out of A-mount “pro glass” — All those newer SSM2 lenses. Pure speculation, but the A9 + adapter will be optimized for these SSM2 — perhaps an adapter that can accomplish fast AF without the need for SLT. That would be a way to instantly add premium glass to the FE lineup, if the lenses carried FULL performance without SLT light loss, Sony could more easily market the lenses as being “FE compatible — footnote — LA-EAx spacing adapter required.”

          2. Agreed, they can’t actually *say* it’s dead, as they still have stock they have to move. I’d actually like to get my hands on the A77II, as I hear it’s quite the improvement over the first version.

            If they could build an adapter as you describe, that’d be friggin’ awesome. No SLT and fast AF? Yes, please! I’m not sure if that’s possible or not, but it’d be nice.

          3. I don’t think it is possible with ALL A-mount lenses. But it might be possible with the SSM2 lenses — it could be the real reason for the recent SSM2 upgrades. Seems rather odd to not add any NEW A-mount lenses… not upgrade older lenses to SSM.. but to take the time to take already-modern SSM lenses and give them SSM2 refresh. Unless this SSM2 refresh is ultimately a way to make them more FE-compatible?
            I know I’m out on a limb.. it’s speculation. But it just makes sense when looking at the big picture.

          4. If SSM2 would indeed be 100% functional on E-Mount without SLT, then there is no reason for Sony to keep those lenses in A-Mount. They can quickly make every SSM2 lens an E-Mount lens, by extending the rear of the lens to account for the shorter register distance. The fact that they have not yet done so, tells us that SSM2 is still not 100% compatible with E-Mount without a dedicated AF adapter.

            Having said all that, i’d welcome a DSLR sized A7000 and a DSLR sized A9, on which A-Mount lenses would have full capability through LA-EA3 or LA-EA5(tbd). I can’t stand the focus-by-wire that E-Mount has today. I’ve tried it and not impressed. The “MF speed with precision” is not there anymore. You lose either one or the other.

  11. The VG900 is under a HUGE $1000 price reduction. Is Sony clearing it out of its stock to make room dor its sucessor?

    Im sure Sony would love another FF Handycam to help out with selling more of those new FF E mount lenses they just made.

    1. Source? I think this graph was previously debunked as fake. Though I totally believe there is a massive decline to A-mount users, I still think this evidence is fraudulent.

    2. It says the active users and the unit of measure is in the millions- FALSE. Those are single digit users on the left side of the graph.

  12. I am very disappointed with the quality of the writing in the comments on this site. I think every comment should be approved by a committee of experts before they are allowed to be posted.

  13. Hoping it’s a successor to the already excellent RX10. RX20 with APS-C sensor perhaps? I’m excited.

    1. No APS-C sensor in RX20. The name implies that it’s a successor to the RX10, which has a 1″ sensor. If the camera has an APS-C sensor, it will have a different name.

  14. Please please please let it be a RX1 successor. Want want want. RX1 with fast AF and viewfinder. Droooooool! (But made in China? That is probably going to be a small sensor cam, so I try not to get my hopes up.)

  15. “fixed lens cameras” -> most likely another one of those small-sensor-with-ridiculous-zoom cameras…

    I would love to see an improved (better ergonomics, 4x zoom?) RX100, but the current revision is only 10 months old so that is not likely.

    If they could make the RX10 smaller and lighter (using a f/4 lens) and giving it a proper mechanical zoom instead of the fly-by-wire one) I would be very interested!

    RX1 successor would be interesting also, but not within my budget 😉

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