The screenshots on top has been sent to me by a source. It proves that the RX1R is coming soon too. It will be announced along the RX100MKII on June 27! Stay tuned on SonyAlphaRumors.
UPDATE: Here you can find the full new RX1/RX1R manual: http://www.manualslib.com/manual/470170/Sony-Dsc-Rx1-Instruction-Operation-Manual.html?page=2
Guess what’s the difference between the two cameras 🙂
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oh Admin this is like never ending foreplay 😀 bit by bit rumours about RX1R 😀 😀
Looks like the full RX1R manual is available here?
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/470170/Sony-Dsc-Rx1-Instruction-Operation-Manual.html?page=2
Looks like old RX1 to me.
THANK YOU!!!!!
So far i can see, the manual does mention different specs.
Maybe the “R” in RX1R stands for Red – colored camera. 🙂
Does the R stand for retractable? Would it be a zoom lens to compete with the likes of the Leica Mini M? Sound interesting!
admin, are we having sr5 party today? come give us more~~~
If it’s the same manual and the part name just has a letter at the end, don’t expect much difference between the two cameras!
Sony’s product naming has in the past used letters at the end to represent different kits, colors etc. for the same body.
Maybe its a minor mechanical difference like they’ve taken out the AA filter? That’s quite fashionable at the moment. Maybe, at a push, it’s as big a difference as the sensor pixel count – perhaps they’ve popped the 36MP sensor in that Nikon uses? But, TBH, I would have expected a whole new number (RX2?) for a significant change like that.
One final speculation – Sony has used the letter R to refer to their Exmor R backside illuminated sensors…. Could it be anything to do with that?
Sony haven’t been that consistent with their naming: the NEX-5, NEX-5N and NEX-5R have all been the next generation of the camera instead of a simple revision
Difference between 5n and 5R however have been the phase detection pixels added to the sensor.
What changed in the nex5 from N to R. Do you think we will finally get phase detection?
+1 I agree, that makes the most sense, improve the autofocus.
Maybe if I keep refreshing this page June 27th would come.
Maybe the R means ‘reversed’ so we get a camera made for left handed people 😉
That would be L.
Admin. What does ” high resolution ” mean?
24mp,haha.
I don’t see nothing new, any difference or note about the “1R” in the manual?
R Stands for Resolution and they use the D800 Sensor?
Found this in the document that is linked to:
Camera [System] Image device: 35mm full size (35.8 mm × 23.9 mm), Exmor CMOS image sensor Total pixel number of camera: Approx. 24.7 Megapixels Effective pixel number of camera: Approx. 24.3 Megapixels Lens: Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 35mm single focus lens f = 35 mm, F2.0 While shooting movies (16:9): When [SteadyShot] is set to [Off]: 37 mm When [SteadyShot] is set to [On]: 44 mm While shooting movies (4:3): When [SteadyShot] is set to [Off]: 45 mm When [SteadyShot] is set to [On]: 48 mm Minimum focus When the macro switching ring is set to “0,3m- When the macro switching ring is set to “0,2m-0,35m”: 0.2 m (0.65 ft.) Minimum focus is the shortest *1 distance from the image sensor to the subject. *1 : “: 0.3 m (1 ft.) Maximum magnification: When the macro switching ring is set to “0,3m- When the macro switching ring is set to “0,2m-0,35m”: 0.26× Minimum f-stop: F22 Filter diameter: 49 mm SteadyShot: Electronic (only for movies) Exposure control: Automatic exposure, Aperture priority, Shutter priority, Manual exposure, Scene Selection (7 modes) White balance: Automatic, Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Incandescent, Fluorescent (Warm White/ Cool White/Day White/Daylight), Flash, Color temperature/Color filter, Custom Signal format: For 1080 50i: PAL color, CCIR standards HDTV 1080/50i, 1080/50p specification For 1080 60i: NTSC color, EIA standards HDTV 1080/60i, 1080/60p specification
Only thing that jumped out at me was that an AC adapter is bundled with the product now…
That is definitely a welcome addition. Well spotted.
it was there before. it’s adaptor not a battery charger
Ahh yeah. Shoot, I got all excited.
lowest ISO is 50 ! Fantastico!
The specifications section (starting p.69) doesn’t call out any differences in the models. Hummmmm…
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/470170/Sony-Dsc-Rx1-Instruction-Operation-Manual.html?page=69#manual
maybe they’re too lazy and just copy/paste the rest of rx1 spec
folks, all the rave here is about a removed AA fllter, believe me. Now, go and do things that are interesting. nice weekend
Same 24MP sensor, yet “high resolution”? That can only mean AA filter removed. Maybe they also use a phase-detection sensors like a99.
Nor any differences called out in the “parts of your camera” section, p.15:
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/470170/Sony-Dsc-Rx1-Instruction-Operation-Manual.html?page=15
And, you get the fun of matching numbers (in the pictures) with letters (in the descriptions. 1 = A, 2 = B, etc…
what if R stands only for different region? USA/Canada models have different AC adaptors according to manual
nope, previous manual has the same stuff in it regarding AC adaptors
What is different about the R? It has the same sensor as the D800 sensor instead of that of the D600!!!
Nikon D800/D600 that is…I know the sensors are made by Sony.
The “R” stands for rumor. This special edition comes with all the rumored features wanted by die-hard Sony enthusiasts. But as an R-model, the specs can’t be officially published, nor the camera released.
There is no rhyme or reason why they put a letter R. Why is the NEX-5N become a NEX-5R? Why does C3 become 3N? No reason, Sony does not have a clue on branding or marketing. This camera could be a revolutionary full frame pocket zoom 24-70mm and priced competitively, but Sony will find a way to mess up the whole thing.
They proclaimed the RX1 a grand success shortly after launch.
The manual claims “Steady Shot”. Can’t relate to R. ????
Steadyshot is a feature for video. The RX1 already has this.
The RX1 is a success.
Get your own name!
Thats vivek.
Huh?! That is my name.
-Ed
LOL!!!
AG, the innovation we need, to finally get a full frame 24-70mm pocket zoom, is big, big pockets. Technology is almost ready, and I heard that Sony’s textile division is working on it.
Minor stuff like no anti-aliasing filter or just a combo pack with OVF or EVF?
Don’t expect anything shocking from Sony yet.
SR(IMHO) The RX1R will not have an AA filter. Sony is borrowing a page from Nikon D800/D800E.
I think you meant D7100, cause D800E has AA filter canceller added(whatever its called, don’t remember), so thats another piece of glass, while D7100 has AA filter truly removed altogether.
Are you sure that the RX1R isnt just like the US version… PAL/NTSC as they do with a lot of products? add a letter or something to differentiate the location of where the camera was sold?
Are you sure that the RX1R isnt just like the US version… PAL/NTSC as they do with a lot of products? add a letter or something to differentiate the location of where the camera was sold?
This is insane! Andrea, if you know the difference, just tell us!
+1
I agree, if you know, tell us.
+1
The post about the new RX100 gives it away: “[The RX-100 MK II] will be announced on June 27 along the also brand new “High Resolution” RX1-R!!!”
And my guess is it is the same sensor as in the Nikon D800 (the RX1 has the same sensor as the D600).
Unless the manual is a fake, there’s no mention of higher resolution file formats.
Just went through the whole document via search and eyeballs. There isn’t any RX1R specific information anywhere. Hardware, settings and features are all the same as the RX1. If this is not a regional SKU, it’s gotta be a subtle change like the AA filter, that they don’t need to list out in the documentation (though IMO they should anyways).
Check my post above, seems to be very little differnece according to the manual (I didn’t read it carefully enough to find a difference)
The joint RX-1/RX1R manual has 24.3 megapixels listed in it.
I guess it will be a version of RX1 without OPTICAL AA filter, which replaced by DIGITAL AA filter technology from Olympus.
No, just look at the other post from today about the RX-100. There Admin says it the new RX-1R a high-res version of the RX-1.
“high resolution” might not mean higher megapix sensor
If they make the low pass filter digital, then turning it on/off for maximum sharpness or moire reduction makes absolutely sense. Since this isn’t possible according to the menu (see manula9; it doubt the AA filter will be digital. Maybe they removed it altogether.
Page 25:
wireless flash?
May be “R” stays for RangeFinder ?? Optical … hope.
Reloaded?
Rapide (Fast AF)?
Retro?
I’m really hoping that the R stands for rangefinder, but sadly all camera manufacturers seem to be content to leave the market to Leica. I won’t ever understand this..
No Viewfinder 🙁
Quote from the manual:
“The screen is manufactured using
extremely high-precision technology so
over 99.99% of the pixels are operational
for effective use.”
The LCD screen has 1228800 dots. This means you will have to accept up to 12 dead pixels. Very convenient for Sony, given the fact that this is a $3000 camera.
I wish that Sony takes approach similar to Fuji with this high end model and replace mode dial with the shutter speed dial
I hope it’s not just a version without AA filter. We need a tangible difference if it’s going to cost more. Improved AF and/or different focal length and viewfinder. Something tells me it’s going to be 24mp. That’s already “high resolution.”
This “something” is the RX1R user manual, which is already available.
I’m voting for red. If the manual is correct the specifications are the same. If they come out with PDAF there are going to be lots of used RX1s on the market all of a sudden.
Hey, I think this is new:
http://www.manualslib.com/manual/470170/Sony-Dsc-Rx1-Instruction-Operation-Manual.html?page=52#manual
You can use Auto ISO in Manual exposure mode. I can do that on my a99, but last I heard Sony hadn’t added that feature yet to its other cameras.
The RX1 can already use auto ISO in manual mode. Its the RX100 that cannot.
It looks like the difference is focal length; am I right? The rear specs show two variations for focal length when using image stabilization, listing variations for 35mm and for 45mm.
I take it that the new camera has a 45mm lens.
Its 35mm the 45mm is just the equivalent cropped focal length of the sensor when stabilization is on.
I don’t like it that when you buy a camera for over €2500 you have a model that will be outdated in less than a year. It’s realy amazing they keep improving it, but why not make a bigger update than just some small improvements. It is what makes leica a class on its own.
+1
Then never, never, ever buy a camera for over €2500. Never, never, ever.
If Sony released a film camera, it could stay the flagship model for quite a long time.
Evf please.
The current RX1 owners can now feel relieved their cameras are not outdated. The R is the same camera without the AA filter like the D800/E. It would be nice if Sony would give us a little firmware update to fix some of the minor quibbles.
Still no true PAL/NTSC video compatibility like on a pro WorldCam-spec camera (ie. “50i/60i Select” on menu instead of on-demand NTSC mode on a PAL model), also no 30p for NTSC models
Sony just doesn’t learn……