The CNET guys unveiled on a Youtube video that they don’t believe the rumor I posted about the “Bodyless” Lens-camera is correct. You may tell them that the first two “lens-cameras” will be unveiled within the next 3-4 weeks. So there is not a lot you have to wait to see them for real. As I told you before there will be two lenses with integrated sensors and Wifi and NFC connection. You can remotely control the lens via smartphone. The two cameras:
1) One is the already mentioned “Lens-camera” with RX100MII sensor and Zeiss lens.
2) The second model will feature a 10xzoom lens with 1/2,3 inch 18 megapixel CMOS sensor.
Now, I am curious to hear from you guys:
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Note: There will be a couple of Sony announcements the next 5-6 weeks. Stay tuned on SAR. It will be a very exciting time 😉
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52 Responses
Maybe is a way to gain more viewership… and attention to the cnet site.
Do you know if these cameras will be able to capture in .ARW format?
I think it will be unveiled at IFA2014.
It’s one of the most biggest show
and sony plans to have a press conference on September 4th
Its very hard to run a rumor website, everytime you have to proof yourself… Good Job … Keep Going….
thanks 🙂
It’s inevitable that people would blame the rumor-spreader instead of the rumor-initiator so therefore admin has to take the brunt of it..
But that’s why the sources should be more brave sending rumors to admin.
looks interesting, i would keep an eye on it and maybe buy it depending on its performance
I’m more curious than interested.
If IQ will be good enough and price won’t be too expensive (being a brand new “toy” without alternatives) I might consider to buy it.
We don’t know anything yet, so for the poll results I don’t know yet.
i would love an ultra wide version as a pocket landscape camera! but yes, if perf is good and price is right i’d get one too. but since its so new and also carl zeiss i sort of doubt it’d be cheap
Will there be a real Bionz chip developed by Sony’s camera team (not just a name like mobile BE/X-reality which has nothing to do with the ones used in Bravias)? Sony’s jpeg engine is not good, but still better than what Sony mobile engineers can offer.
Please post a rumor about the nex7 coming next week so that I can say youre wrong and you end up being right and so were all happy.
Sweet… 😉
“One is the already mentioned “Lens-camera” with RX100MII sensor and Zeiss lens.”
If it is both RX100M2 sensor AND zoom lens, even 4x, then maybe.
The main issue for me is how well integrated it will be to the smartphone OS. While I’m pretty sure that Android will be well treated by this device, I am worried that iDevices will only be able to access the camera from a Sony app. This is obviously a limitation of iOS, so real fault to Sony here, but what they could do is release an API so that other apps could still access the camera.
So for me it’s simple: if the quality is like the RX100m2, and the integration is acceptable, I can’t see myself not buying this. (Carrying that FF-NEX around all the time might be a bit extreme, so I need my backup.)
The goPro app works pretty well.
other apps can access the play memories mobile app as a camera alternative in android, the small lag wasn’t that good in the app though, i hope they’ve fixed it.
maybe they’ll even use play memories mobile app with this lens-camera, i hope not though, that app was lacking in many features
Admin the first time you published the news, you named the page /sr3-honami-smartphone-uses-a-magnetic-mount-for-nex-lenses-and-a-curious-lens/
“Nex lenses”
But now I’m not interested 🙁
and then he updated it later
nex lens in the future maybe…. but would be quite bulky to release compared to a 1 inch sensor and rx100 lens
They could build and sell it,but that’s the most stupid thing a photographer could buy.are you gonna hold and operate the lens with your left hand and do the same with the other?have you ever tryed to do that with a gopro?it works just if you have to check if the gopro is properly tilted on your helmet so you dont get a footage of the sky while you’re skiing.but for taking pics and videos is useless.
did you even bother to read the article before posting? or did you just see the title and think “this is stupid, im gonna make a post to discount it immediately while i know absolutely nothing about it”
it may be attached to the phone through a magnetic mount, so therefore you can hold the phone and lens as 1 unit.
what’s the point of bringing a huge lens like this?
Size wise it’s even thicker than RX100..
That’s because you’re looking at concept art using the RX1(!) lens/sensor module.
The point is to separate higher-grade compact camera capability from smart phones. Rather than someone having to pick their phone to get the camera they want, and compromising lens quality due to the size of the phone, they can have a much better camera they can use with pretty much any phone. They can pick the phone based on the phone’s capabilities, and ignore the built-in camera, and they can switch or upgrade phones without losing the camera functionality they bought from Sony.
It is a niche market, certainly, but I don’t think it’s any smaller a niche market than the Honami phone… probably a bit larger, in fact.
its more like they’re creating the market, i think it’ll probably outsell the honami
(though maybe not at launch), the fact that honami is a new phone, not everyone needs/wants to buy a new phone. the prospective of a camera attachment to their phone i would think would have a bigger market. but thats just me
I’m worried about lag-time in using the phone as a wireless viewfinder – if there’s a delay in even seeing the image when you pan around, you’ll miss shots. Then it might be slow to transfer the files to the camera, especially if it supports RAW.
For me, a small flat camera that also has nfc or wifi could replace this, working with my phone when I need it to, but also having built-in full controls without the lag involved in streaming the viewfinder image wirelessly to another device.
Also: What about power? The main reason a lot of people use their phone camera instead of a separate P&S camera is because the don’t want to have to keep the batteries charged on another device, or transfer pictures off the card of another device. If this has built-in battery and built-in memory, then it’s as high-maintanance as any stand-alone camera.
The battery life will probably be terrible.
Actually, it might end up being very good.
Lens-camera is a camera but control by smartphone.
All picture was store in Lens-camera (maybe it has internal memory or micro-sd card).
If you need a picture, communicate the Lens-camera for transfer file to phone.
For display , smartphone has resolution 1920*1080 it mean bandwidth only 2MB per second. NFC 424 kbit/s has problem but Wi-fi no.
Unless they keep the price low, I don see any reason getting this instead of a RX100mk2…
I won’t be surprised if Sony does release a wireless lens-camera unit for the rumored Honami. The company’s already doing it with the WiFi enabled RX100 II, NEX-6, NEX-5R and your favorite iOS/Android device.
Devil will be in the details.
If it works well, I am so there. Lots of relatives who shoot all photos with cell phones because they know how to e-mail, send to Facebook, etc. I’m getting ones for them.
If it works poorly — some kind of proprietary Sony photo app or something, I’ll wait for v2.0 (if one comes out).
If it shoots raw, I’m sold.
This concept could actually be useful for underwater photography (30m diving kind, not pool snapshots) – enclosures for lens-units could be made very compact, since they do not have any controls, with a common controller unit providing storage, manual controls and strobe control.
I think the design is awkward. This attracts the others attention rather than hide yourself from the sight. Usually most of the people won’t pay attention of other using mobile phones to take picture. And it seems less offensive of using a pocket size DC. However, the combination of a big screen with a “big” lens just can’t take my eyes away. Technically creative but not a good design at all.
Just as other people said, NFC won’t nail it. So it’ll probably be WiFi. With WiFi’s range you’d be able to hold the lens in one hand and your smartphone in the other, judging by the lens size of an RX100, your hand should be able to entirely conceal it, while your phone doesn’t even have to be pointing in the same direction. This combination would draw minimal attention, even less if it uses an electronic shutter, or better, a leaf shutter.
You might be right but Wi-Fi remote is not quick enough to respond. I have tried PlayMemories Apps to remote and it is laggy.
Just the thing to make wobbly video, no good way to stabilize such a object. But then looking at Utube wobbly video is the preferred kind these days, you see it even in pro video now.
Too bad this is not marketed for video, yeah?
With still photography it will just be the king of motion blur. At least less likely to make you sick looking at the results. These days many folks will put up photos that are so much motion blur you can’t even tell what the subject is, and they think that’s just fine. Especially if trying to sell something on ebay.
Sony does not know how to or want to make a still photography only camera, it will be video too.
This is one dumb idea. I’d rather get an RX100 and wifi my images to my phone. Sony is throwing dung at the wall and waiting to see what sticks.
There seems to be plenty of interest so get out of line already.
No you don’t. Wi-fi is overkill for sending images across 1 inch distance. It will kill your battery.
Exactly, I would rather get a slimmer and cheaper RX100 than carrying an awkward lens
Given the same image quality, between carrying a smartphone and a camera, and carrying a smartphone and a very compact lens-camera, I would choose the obvious. Why carry two computers when you can carry just one.
Yes, I would choose the obvious too.
Because carrying two good computers is more intelligent than carrying a single rubbish one.
Party pooper
So many people whining about a rumored product that could finally be the first really good quality smartphone camera and an all new concept.
As a pro sports and wedding shooter this does open a whole lot of new perspectives mount a few lenses and manage them remotely from a laptop or use time lapse/interval trigger. I could keep my a99’s for the big part of the job but provide some different angle. This could be really interesting
I don’t think you got the idea…
I think he did
The idea is to abandon being a photographer. First remote control cameras you control from somewhere, then you don’t even remote control them, they make all the decisions. Just think how much time and money a wedding photographer could save, while still charging the same. I think he’s got the idea.
You are not supposed to think…