Sources from SAR and Digicaminfo got the same info about the upcoming release:
In very last moment it looks like Sony decided to drop the A38 and just release the A58! And this is what Sony will announce soon:
- SLT-A58 with a new 20MP sensor (actually it’s 20,xx and almost close to 21 Megapixels). Priced around 600-700 dollars/euro.
- NEX-3N, 16Megapixel sensor (same as F3) priced at 500-600 dollars/euro
- Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for 1600-1700 dollars/euro
- 18-55mm II for A mount at around 200-300 dollars/euro
- 70-400G F4.5-5.6 II 2400-2500 dollars/euro (to ship in April!)
And a smart SAR reader found the evidence for the new 70-400mm in the latest firmware: “Looks like SAL-70400G2 is ready for release, fw for a99 contains the lens correction profile for that lens. This profile is identical to the profile for the known SAL-70400G, so no changes in optical formula. LensID is 69, “old” one has LensID 53. No such lens profiles for rumored SAL-70200G2 or announced SAL-50F14Z yet.”
Stay tuned on SAR!
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Very exciting. With my warranty for A55 instead of repair they replace with current model. Is it wrong to hope something happens to A55 when this is released? Haha
Looking forward to more info and in particular the A78 which is looking more real every week.
Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 for 1600-1700 dollars/euro
70-400G F4.5-5.6 II 2400-2500 dollars/euro
Ouch. That hurts…
it comes in black with weather sealing.
Early it was mentioned, in white. Are you sure?
70-400mm f/4.5-5.6 OR f/4-5.6 as the current one?
Might be that they changed an optical formula to make it sharper wide open? Hence f/4.5 ?
That 70-400G is totally outpriced. Even Canon L glass is cheaper and that is optically stabilised. Unless that lens delivers a never seen IQ, its a no go for me.
Thanks for the information. A58! I wonder if Sony will announce it on February 20th…
So what is the point of getting a 70-400 II if it’s the same optics as the original but more expensive?
Making more money as any company should? hahaha
Water resistance? Better AF? There is more than just optical configuration to a lens that can be improved.
Especially when 70-400 was already quite amazing lens in terms of optical design.
It was already sharp at 400mm f5.6, I’d get the current version. Might be interesting to see what used prices end up like.
In did. If it makes current 70-400 go down in price I’d take it in a heartbeat.
Wanted to by the A57. I hope now that A58 gets releases soon!
When will it be released?
Soon! April it should be in Stock.
That is absolutely great news! Thanks for that!
Whats up with those ridiculous prices manufactures are asking these days for lensens $1600 for a 50mm and $2400 for a 70-400 replacement… Sorry but this is getting way out of proportions.
The 50 mm is a Zeiss, it’s the same difference between mass market car and a Rolls 🙂
Point is the amount of labor in both lenses is about the same to build one, not much difference in parts either. Bottom line is marketing hype. With the advent of photoshop and software to correct for distortion these hyper pricey lenses are a joke.
If after comparing Zeiss to random 3rd party lens it’s just a “marketing gimmick” for you, then we have nothing to discuss here.
Actually, there is a substantial difference between the Sony Zeiss lenses and their regular Sony counterparts, both in terms of materials, design and of course results. It’s like the other poster put it, it’s the difference between a Toyota Scion and a Lexus. Same manufacturer, they’ll both get good mileage, get you to the supermarket, but one does it in style and comfort, maybe with more safety and all the latest technology. It’s kind of like that.
Why do people use Toyota as a reference?
Lenses are not just about optics these days. They contain electronics such as auto focus motors and communicate with the camera body and flash. The new Sigmas have that “thingy” that you attach to lens to allow for firmware updates. Old film cameras and lenses still take great photographs, but photographers today want their cameras and lenses to do everything for them, so they are more complex which means more money. In the old film days, you never heard of lenses and cameras that were weather sealed. Now everyone wants equipment that they can use to take photographs in a tornado. Again, more money.
Andrea, do we know so far what are the improvements in A58?
Sensor mainly.
Andrea, do you have any informations about the EVF? Will it be like the A65 with 2,36 Mio Pixel?
No info yet.
18-55 II – PANCAKE?
I don’t know to be honest. But I’m quite sure it won’t be pancake.
What might be changed or improved in 18-55? It’s a kit lens, so I have bit of a trouble trying to figure out what they can improve without raising a price by a significant margin. New optical design might be required for high-resolution sensors, but other then that? No idea really. I’d love to see weather sealing or SAM II (like in 18-135 – silent), or best: both! 😉
I’d love for Sony to weather-seal their whole Alpha range, but I doubt that is going to happen.
SAM II is much more likely. The 18-55 is already pretty good optically.
And no FF for 2013? Just one SLT FF…fail Sony.
And double fail on 70-400 II price. That is insane.
y u no come out a88!!!
Agree on the 70400G2
Comparing that to Canon with last years renewal of the 2470L2, they started with store prices at 2299€ here in Germany. Now a few month later it is at 1899€.
Presumably the same will happen to the 70400G2. Paying 700-800€ (current retail price is 1699€) for a weather sealing is more than ridiculous.
I would rate it fair if the optical formula would be prepared for upcoming sensors.
….”And no FF for 2013? Just one SLT FF…fail Sony.”…
I don’t get it, why “fail”? Isn’t one FF body enough for you?
I’m very happy with the A99!
They should release one that competes with D600. I have an extremely hard time justifying the 6-700 extra between the D600 and the A99…
🙂
So, i’m really wondering about kit II, just because i saw at sonystore they put about half-a-year ago a badge “NEW” to the kit, and the only diference i saw – just a bit another plastic finish on it.
70-400 Same optical formula but only f4.5 not f4??
Admin make some Voting polls, ESP on that 70 400
Price for 50mm sounds legit tho alittle high.. maybe 1500 MAX i would say..
However price for new 70-400..thats very high. oh dear..
No FF this year. Then new SLT FF in 2014? Sounds OK to me..no need so many anyway..A99 is fine.
SAR have said that next years FF isn’t SLT, Sony are concentrating on a NEX FF.
And come to think of it.. If the 70-400 G II is going at this price.. i cant imagine how much the 70-200 G II would gonna cost..
hmm..
In Germany the delta between 200 and 400 was always 300 to 400 €. So you can imagine what the price for the 70200G2 will be – 2899 or 2999…
And if it is also with an unmodified optical formula, forget it..
20mp sensor is perfect with the advent of the Metabones’ SpeedBooster. Are they conspiring?
The 20mpx si for the A58, and metabones is for the Nex series, not the A series.
Let’s see if A58 will have an battery grip option…
Andrea, have you heard any other hot shoe flashes to be introduced other than F60M?
nope.
Damn, new MIS flashes are what I want to hear about more than anything else.
Flashes are the kind of thing that get released without much build-up hype, though, so maybe Sony will surprise us soon.
I hope so I really would like a nice flash for my nex-6. Sony should make a compact flash with quick shift bounce or whatever they call it. I really loved that feature with my 58am.
1700 euros for a 50mm? lol
Exactly, LOL. What does it do, you get 4 Sigmas 50 1.4 and they are not behind the Zeiss, no way the Zeiss can be so much better to justify such a ridiculous price.
If it was an 85 1.2 I would pay 1700 Euro. Yes. But this is just funny.
Canon EF 50/1.2 is $1,619.00 at B&H and it’s a less complicated lens albeit a half stop faster.
F/1.2 is an unique lens unavailable in other systems. Hence the uber-high prize. Zeiss is nothing alike!
No, it’s just different. Zeiss microcontrast etc. There’s nothing particularly special about f/1.2 after you’ve shot one a few times.
How about “Only modern 50 f/1.2 lens available” part?
Plenty of people still shooting lenses like converted 58/1.2 Rokkor. Consider also that something like a Zeiss 100/2 makro planar will have stronger subject separation/bokeh than 50/1.2.
Point still stands. Being an only modern 50 f/1.2 with AF on a market can justify high price. Being yet another 50 f/1.4 can’t justify 1500$ price tag. Even if it’s Zeiss with weather sealing and SSM.
1.2 is a number that appeals to people that like stats. Zeiss are a top-tier lens maker. Of course they can charge a price comprable with a Canon. It hasn’t been released, nor it’s performance known, and people are already complaining!
Again – this lens is 50 f/1.4. Not 35 f/1.4, nor 50 f/1.2.
Again – 50 f/1.4 are cheapest full frame lenses on a market.
So seeing 1500$ price tag on something like that surely makes people astonished. It’s like if you’d release 18-55 f/3.5-5.6 for 2000$ – even if it’d be Zeiss people would be astonished to see such a price tag on a lens like that.
Don’t bother with the price! Depending on the performance it may be a no brainer or overpriced.
Even if it’s razor-sharp wide open – I’m sure people will complain about the price.
Especially when Zeiss is about to release manual focus 50 f/1.4 with even greater diameter most likely providing even better image quality for lower price.
The Sigma Art 35mm f1.4 is listed at $1400 U.S. That’s a third party lens. People wanted fast high quality primes. They’re getting it. Not selling for what you think they should be? Well, the pros who need them will buy them. For the rest of us, the current Sony and Minolta lenses still work quite well.
Current Canon 50 f/1.4: 400$. Current Canon 35 f/1.4: 1200$.
You see – prices of 50s and 35s don’t have anything to deal with themselves.
actually the sigma 35 f1.4 is 900$ and not 1400. If u want to play that i can also say the zeiss is 2500$ when it’s not
You talk about release or market price? Cause we’re talking here about release prices.
i’m talking about release price
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/11/07/Sigma-35mm-f1-4-DG-HSM-899-dollars-street-price
Street price is even lower i think you can find it for 750- 800$ in US but i’m not sure.
You are right about the Sigma. My bad. On the other hand, the Sony is stall available (50mm f1.4) at a reasonable price. For some reason, those Zeiss lenses that people covet cost a lot of money (it’s been true for a while now).
The lens is selling for $900, but Sigma’s MSRP is $1400.
http://www.sigmaphoto.com/product/35mm-f14-dg-hsm-a
Look up leica prices. Zeiss lens run at less than half the price. Yet its not like people stopped buying leica when they started selling a 7000 dollar 50/2 lens. Looking from a standard performance basis i doubt its 6100 dollars sharper than the 50/2 zeiss
WHY???????
I need a low cost model !!!!!
Prices way too high for both of these lenses. 50mm should be max $1000 dollars.
Dropped the A38 or delayed it?
Is the 70-400mm freaking gold plated to justify the price tag???
Interesting.
The cameras sound nice.
The lenses sound nice.
The camera prices sound nice.
The lens prices sound insane.
+1
Andrea, how about OVF rumors? Any chance for A580 mark II?
I don’t know why people complain about the price of the zeiss. It’s half the price of the 55mm 1,4 Distagon version for Nikon and it has auto focus, SSM to be more specific! It’s a steal 😉
1600 $ for a 50 , crazy , I’ll just buy the sigma 35mm 1.4 and call it a day…
Sony’s pricing is going all crazy! At this rate, people will turn to Sigma. Sigma seem to have improved their optical and build quality in their recent lens and still managing to sell them at reasonable price. The Sigma 35mm f1.4 is well received.
The yens are coming down and I would think their selling price should also come down!
Cool rumors! I *suspect* the A58 is replacing both the A57 and A65 (as there’s no A66 rumors flying around). If so, the A58 will probably get the good EVF from the A65/A77 – I really can’t see Sony continuing to sell ‘old’ EVF tech in the mid-range cameras for another 18 months. And if if if so, it could be the reasonably-priced upgrade from my A700 I have been waiting for. Yey!
Get a used A77 instead.
Or do not upgrade A700. It’s still the best. For night photography SLTs are crappy like NEXes, they got hot and noisy very soon. I’ve even sold A580 as it wasn’t that good as A700 for longer exposures and got horrible blinks from city lights that A700 never does.
I have the A700 and A77 and don’t experience long exposure problems on either.
Don’t think a58 is a replacement of a65! There will be one a66 my guess. May be in 2014.
Well, wanted to buy the CZ 50mm 1.4 lens, but seems too pricy for me.
Well, bad luck for me!(:
Same here. 1000$ would be absolute maximum I can pay, but 1500? It’s like asking yourself to go bankrupt.
And then Sony will complain that the pro-gear doesn’t sell.
Idiots.
you’re just poor mate
if I’d be poor I wouldn’t look at the glass that’s 1000$ for my hobby 😉
Yeah, that’s about it!
It really gets annoying hearing people whine about no Zeiss weather-sealed AF 50mm f1.4 lenses… and then when they announce it all the cheap ba$tards go on and on about how ‘expensive it is’. This will be an absolute top-of-the-line lens and it will never be under a $1000!
it’s 50 f/1.4
Imagine someone releases 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 for a price of 300mm f/2.8. Cause that’s pretty much what’s happening here.
I just got my Sigma 50mm f/1.4 for ~$445 from B&H and it’s a very good piece of glass. Calculation is simple: Sigma 50mm + Sigma 35mm = 445+900=$1.335 which is still 200usd cheaper than Carl Zeiss 50mm f1.4. I’d buy 2 UV filters with this additional bucks 🙂
Andrea, any details about the new 18-55? better af ? build construction?
How can the 70-400 have the same optical formula as the old lens, when it has f4.5 instead of f4? … Seems strange to make the lens slower and charge that huge ammount… :S
Umm, the current 70-400G starts at f4.5.
No, it does not. 70-300G does.
You are right. I was reading the lens marking and didn’t see it clearly. Never answer questions when you’re still sleepy.
According to Sonys website http://www.sony.se/product/ddl-sony-g-lenses/sal-70400g it is 4.0, therefore it seems V.E.R.Y. odd to have 4.5 now… if it is the same optical formula.
Admin – is it really 4.5?
how about “if it’s different optical formula” ?
Just to remind you – admin NEVER told that it uses same optical formula as the old lens.
In the article above:
…This profile is identical to the profile for the known SAL-70400G, so no changes in optical formula. LensID is 69, “old” one has LensID 53…
No. It only means that it got the same or very similar vignetting and distortion pattern as the old lens.
But… let’s wait and see 🙂
Don’t Panic People, Next year Sony will release the
A55H0L3 – point and shoot!
I’ve been considering buying the 70-400II, but whoa that price. I think for most of us just buying the current model (or better yet a closeout special for the current model) and a rain jacket for it makes much more sense financially.
Well, this is a nice surprise!
I normally find out about Sonys new sensor technology from Nikons product announcements…
I was JUST about to go for the A57 as an upgrade to my A55…so I guess I will have to wait just a little longer….
…and then the A59 will be announced and you’ll wait for that. 😀
Don’t wait and grab an A57 quick. The prices are perfect at the moment and A57 is surely an upgrade over A55. I’ve replaced my A55 with an A57 last year.
Prices are perfect, but they will only go down from now on 🙂
Andrea release date for CZ 50mm?
so we gonna see this next gen 20mp sensor in a NEX this year:) maybe nex 7X? or even NEX 5X/6X.. cant wait for the DXO results of this sensor!
I’m very glad they are finally coming up with a new aps-c-censor, the performance has been stuck for too long. Even m4/3 has cought up. NEX-3N will be the third generation of cameras with the same sensor, except for the phase detection pixels. If they have improved the sensor nicely and use it for the new generations NEXes, I’ll probably have to upgrade. 20 megapixels sounds just right too!
Current 16mpx is a very good sensor. Even with progess in engineering sensor, i doubdt that adding 4mpx make the sensor really better.
m4/3 haven’t caught up. Olympus just inflate their ISO numbers. The omd-em5 sensor is a SONY sensor, same generation as the 16Mp APS-C.
DxOMark takes that into account and says the sensor performance of E-M5 in virtually identical to the sonys.
I don’t wan more pixels per se, but if they have kept the per-pixel performance the same (or even improved), I don’t mind gradually going up. Sony 24MPix sensor sacrificed some per-pixel performance for resolution, I’m hoping the new one is on par with the latest m4/3s and beats them by about a stop.
Great news! Really good to see Sony’s still investing in the a-mount. Price is on the steep end, but at the end of the day it’s a Zeiss…
Only it’s not fully metal, silvery-ring lens alike 35 f/1.4 Zeiss, which goes for the same price. So I hardly call it justified. Especially when 35 f/1.4 is impact resistant and got by far more complicated optical design.
which lens are you talking about???
Zeiss 35 f/1.4 ? Ever heard about it? lol… and you’re calling me poor?
You mean the Sony G 35/1.4, right? There is no A-mount Zeiss 35mm.
The Sony G 35mm isn’t very good either – nowhere near worth the price.
F or EOS mount Zeiss 35 f/1.4
That’s the lens that’s comparable in price with A-mount Zeiss 50 f/1.4
Fine, but the A-mount Zeiss 50 will have SSM AF, weather sealing and will be metal bodied too.
In any case, shouldn’t you be comparing it to the existing 50/1.4 ZE/ZF?
Which at the day of release run in germany for 600 Euro? Yea, sure, I can. This will only show how ridiculous Sony Zeiss price is. Nearly 3 times as high.
People complained that there are too many bodies in the SLT range. Sony may be simplifying a bit. And people still complain. Can we wait for the actual products and prices to come out and then complain?
It’s funny but there’s some truth to the perception of SONY users. There’s a reason people like Kai give us such a hard time.
People complain cause there’s no strategy in what Sony does. It more seems like a random moves in random directions then anything else.
Andrea
would the new A58 sensor be put into the next NEX 5 series?
Thanks
Yea, it will. Eventually.
…”would the new A58 sensor be put into the next NEX 5 series?”…
IMHO It would make more sense on a NEX 6!
Sheesh and I thought Nikon and Canon lenses were expensive. My sympathies to Sony shooters.
Zeiss has done its marketing well. I’ve used numerous Zeiss lenses (A mount 24-70, 135 + manual glass for Nikon) and I can honestly say you’re mostly paying for a name and a little blue “Zeiss” tag at the side.
Sony would do well to filter down the A77’s AF system into the A58, like Nikon did when they put the D7000’s AF system into the D5200.
€1600-1700?!?! At that price they’ll be able to count UK sales in single figures. It’s a 50mm FFS.
Ouch!!
“A38 dropped!!”
Looks like no Sony For Me.
A58 20mp and new hotshoe but for the projected 6-700$ range im not sure it will get the OLED EVF
no micro AF ajust and no af range limiter in body ?
more and more i think ill jsut get a A57
I said it up there ^^ Get a used A77.
not really ready for 24mp and the 57 bran new is now jsut under 500 bucks (hard to beat that for bang for the buck)
As if 24MPx would be a major difference. lol
from my A330 its a huge difference been shooting RAW+jepg for the last 2 years can i have the A77 do RAW+ jsut fine jepg so i have fast easy shots to post but am saving the raws for any tricky editing
If you don’t want 24mpix then reduce the size of them to 16mpix. There is very little difference between images from the A55 and images of the same size from the A77.
Having owned both… Sadly I have to agree…
Andrea – Any Info? on Processor Board or New PDAF more points
New BIONZ V2 processor board with
Better JPEG engine
and
Bigger on board Buffer
Pleazzzzzzzzzzze
working on it…no info yet.
I “was” looking forward to upgrading my 70-400, but it looks like it’ll cost me close to a grand after I sell my current one. I’m suspicious of the claim made here that the new lens will have the same optic profile, and that it will now be slower (that could have just been a typo).
The 70-400 has terrible bokeh and for that reason alone I would want to upgrade to an improved version. Weather sealing would also be hugely important in a lens primarily intended for outdoor wildlife or sports photography. I don’t care about the silver color, they can change it or keep it, doesn’t matter to me. Just fix my bokeh and seal the lens and I’ll be putting my current one on ebay and snatching up a new one.
Sony will need a 400mm prime to fix the bokeh. Long zooms always have terrible bokeh.
a 400mm F4.5 woudl be killer but do you even think for a sec that it woudl be less then 2k$
I don’t believe that an AF Zeiss 1.4 will cost $1000 more than the MF version for canon or nikon. This will def push people away from the sony alpha platform if zeiss lenses cost so much more.
Since I started visiting this page, only bad things I read … Andre, parsed many inflammatory articles, and that is bad for all …
Always provide the high prices ….
Hi, Andrea
Is the new A58 sensor same as the next NEX 5 series?
Thanks
Looks like Sony has fixed leaks if only thing souces can tell is how many megapixels A58 has 2 weeks before announcement.
Not sure how well it is going to sell at the listed price. The most expensive 50mm f/1.4 at B&H right now is the Zeiss Planar T* Manual focus for Canon and Nikon at $725. The new lens has auto focus, weather sealing, and I would expect be produced in smaller quantities, which increases the price a bit. But double the price does seem extreme. For more budget sensitive, the Sigma and Sony lenses are available for $450 and $423. Of course if the new lens can out resolve a 54 MP FF sensor, it could be worth every penny to those who may be shooting such cameras in a few years.
Which Nikon model will have the new 20 megapixel sensor before Sony releases it?
Let’s make a simple calculation now. Let’s assume that Zeiss 50mm f/1.4 is $1.599.
Sigma 50mm f/1.4 = $449
Sigma 35mm f/1.4 = $899
Total = $1.348
$1.599 – $1.348 = $251
Now you can go and get a couple of UV and polarizer filters too, for your new Sigma’s. Did you get my point?
Looked up a few price comparison. Zeiss lenses versus Sony Zeiss. All the Zeiss are manual focus and are the Nikon mount price. B&H list price, no discounts
24mm Sony Zeiss f/2 $1,400
25mm Zeiss f/2 $1,700
85mm Sony Zeiss f/1.4 $1,700
85mm Zeiss f/1.4 $1,283
135mm Sony Zeiss f/1.8 $1,800
135mm Zeiss f/2 $2,122
Sometimes the Sony is a little cheaper sometimes a little more. Biggest difference is the 85mm the Sony is $417 more or 32% more. If this held for the 50mm it would place the Sony at $990. The Sony135 f/1.4 is a nice lens but not weather sealed which might add a few hundred more. So $1,200 to $1,300 would be considered reasonable to me, and the price may drop to that level after it has been out a while.
Zeiss 50 f/1.4: 600 Euro
Sony Zeiss 50 f/1.4: 1600 Euro
You still think it sounds reasonable after comparing with other lenses?
Andreaa pls do you know something about the nex 7x when is it coming before sommer or after??
For the rumored price tags
SONY won’t see my bucks.
“NEX-3N, 16Megapixel sensor (same as F3) ”
Means, no PDAF? Yet shipped with the new 16-50/3.5-5.6 powerzoom? Strange.
What is the real story behind the A38?
Completely false rumor from the beginning (never existed) ? Or just postponed ?
PS: Do you really can believe that a company can drop a product at the last moment? (few weeks before announcement?).
Sony needs work on there G line.
WOW I can get a mint used 70-400G for $1350 now, what the hell is Sony thinking adding weather seal and keeping the same optical elements and sell the 70-400G II for 2500? is that extra $1150 really worth it????
The 50 1.4CZ is expensive as well, it’s in the same price of Canon 50 1.2L.
I understand that this is all just rumor till Sony makes official announcements. But the main thrust of this year according to Sony (or is it SonyAlphaRumors) is to update the product from the bottom up……
So, it is a little strange that Sony delays the bottom 3x series and updates only the 5x series.
Who knows, maybe Sony will announce a new 7x, 8x, or 9x body or even a 9xx 😉
More and more Sony bodies – does the NEX line have more bodies than lenses now? Not counting ‘adapted’ lenses of course.
Also the 70-400 price is highway robbery – no reason that lens should cost that much – it doesn’t even have IS built-in! Yes I realize Alpha bodies have a mediocre form of IS built in, but it’s far less effective than in-lens IS. I had a Sigma OS 70-200 that was far better disabling the in-body IS and using the lens IS. Just sayin’. Sony gets you coming and going.
photorumors.com lists the 70-400mm @ $2.200 which is more reasonable. Unfortunately, it also shows it as f4.5-5.6 🙁
If we would spend time outdoor and taking picture as much as we are here reading about rumors and whining all the time….we would have lots of nice pictures 😀 hahaha
There’s time for shooting, there’s time for reading. These two don’t interfere with each other.
I was just joking… :)but some ppl here spend their time just whining about this and that…
An “almost” 21mp sensor. And here I was hoping for a next generation 16mp. I hope it will not be another round of A65/A77 noisy mess. They can’t possibly make a camera that has worse ISO performance than a previous generation, can they?
Relax Stan, some people are happy actually taking pictures with their A65/A77’s and not just zooming into crops all day to compare pixels.
I’m not zooming into crops, if thats what you’re assuming… Lots of my pictures are taken in pretty dark areas, such as parties with insufficient lighting. My biggest problem with my A55 was the noise that it produced. Yes, it outclassed all point and shoots, cellphones and other cameras in a lower class, but if it had higher usable low noise ISO, like my brother’s Nikon D5100 @ ~1200, I’d be much happier. I would’ve bought a D5200, but i just don’t like their menu system. For some reason it seems weird to me. I’ve just recently sold my A55, while it still had value and i’m pretty much ready for a next gen camera. If sony dropped SLT and shoved PDAF on sensor into a new camera, it’d be a perfect camera for me. And please don’t mention NEX-5R. Last thing i need is adapters to use my lenses and a tiny camera body.
Sounds to me like you need to learn how to use LR.
That could be a possibility…
For now what I see in LR4 is that noise reduction applied to my brother’s pictures seems to mess up jpeg’s much less than NR applied to A55 pics. I had to use more color noise suppression on my A55, because it had distinctively more pronounced chroma noise.
According to three online review websites including DXOmark, Nikon’s D5200 sensor soundly beats all Sony cropped bodies in overall IQ. The same for D3200 D600 and especially D800. I care nothing for video and am all about image quality and currently Nikon is dominating in that regard. I prefer Sony’s body design especially with EVF and hope Sony will surpass Nikon with the next line of bodies and please no more SLT I understand the benefit but it along with AAfilter make fine details all smudgy like a point and shoot.
Drop SLT and there’s your extra low ISO performance that Nikon seems to have. Just compare A57 vs NEX-5N, or A77 vs NEX-7
Too bad Sony hasn’t introduced the flip-up SLT option yet. Would be nice to take advantage of an extra half-stop of high ISO performance.
no doubt about that 🙂
50/1.4 CZ = 899$/€
70-400 ssm2 = 1849$/€
70-200 ssm2 = 2199$/€
This is my guess for maximum !
What a boring announcement!! A list of mild upgrades and copies of what they already have. What about some products that would fill real gaps in the lineup?
(*) Wide-angle primes for E-mount/A-mount APS-C: why is there no 16 mm or 20 mm f/2 lens? Not a pancake, but a good performing lens. It should be easier to make and cheaper than full frame lenses at these focal lengths.
(*) 35 mm for A-mount fullframe: there is only one choice from Sony now which does not live up to its price.
fun fact about 35mm lens:
It’s a design from 1987.
Only thing that changed ever since was focusing motor and coatings.
$1600+ to get a 50 prime?!
Sony is crazy
If it insists pricing products like this, it will go bankrupt in 5 years I believe.
Then I wonder why Leica didn’t go bankrupt way earlier.
My 70-400 is sharp at 70/f4 and 400/f5.6. Looks like i’ll save by not having to shell out that ridiculous price. And 1600 for the 50mm? They can keep it.
Ill buy it. Your in now if ya need it you will buy it. But I bet its under 1500
Any takers.
I will look to see how well the new lenses image then I’ll make up my mind to buy or not.
As camera sensors get better and have greater MP’s quality optics become more important.
Hi Andrea, Do you have any infos about whether mirror flip up will come with the next gen SLT like A58?
Now 50mm for 2k… Now I am expecting the performance on the same caliber of Leica without the brand.
Zeiss Primes do tend to have equal performance to Leica but with AF
Wow then the 50mm is mine…
Soon = Feb, Mar, Apr??
can’t wait to get my new prime yaaay
50/1.4 priced like Canon’s 50/1.2-L … Hmm. This new ZA won’t go to 1.2, so it had better have something else to make it worth the premium price. And no, the blue “Zeiss” label will NOT, in itself, be worth it. I’d better be able to see superior IQ in pictures the lens takes; it needs to beat ALL the other 50/1.4’s out there… and probably, beat them by a substantive margin (I imagine that Sigma’s already planning to raise the price of their 50/1.4HSM… ) .
Of course, even if I *CAN* see the superior IQ, I probably *STILL* won’t buy the ZA50… 50mm isn’t a useful-enough focal length (for me, and my shooting), and f/1.4 doesn’t beat my other glass for low-light, so… this lens doesn’t look like it’s going to have NEARLY $1600 worth of appeal for me. Others MMobviouslyV.
However, that a58 rumor…
Any news about the sensor?
50mm f1.4 at that price simply won’t fly not with Canon’s 50mm f1.2 L lens at that price point.
Another kit lens? Well wow yawn..
Where is the 85mm f1.8, the 35mm f2 FF lens, the 28mm f2.8, the 24-something non CZ pricey zoom, the 70-210mm f4 new beercan. Nowhere to be seen and this is evidently a camera company?
As far as the 50 f1.4 goes I’ll stick with my Sony branded one (a.k.a. Minolta 50 f1.4 RS re-badged). I mean hey, I own some Zeiss glass; the 24-70 f2.8 SSM, 16-35 f2.8 SSM & the 16-80 f3.5-4.5. However, I bought them at reasonable prices before the Tsunami that hit Japan and screwed them up with their nuclear reactor and all that. Sine then, the prices have gone sky high on the “A” grade stuff. I know Nikon and Canon pulled the same thing, but still. A Canon mount Zeiss 50 f1.4 manual focus lens runs at $725 at B&H Photo Video. Okay, Sony’s has AF. So what? let’s more than double the price? C’mon! It’s a prime lens! Not much going into the optical design compared to the 24-70 f2.8 zoom. It shouldn’t cost more than $1100 max. I’d rather pay $500 for Sigma’s 50 f1.4 EX DG HSM lens.
Sony, you better start rethinking your price strategy and start pricing accordingly as well as have a bit more selection for the Alpha Mount. I’ve been shooting with Minolta and now Sony for many years. We need more variety in lenses at aggressive pricing. Also, dump the plastic mount crap! I know you want to save some manufacturing expense. But really? Plastic is not the solution. Plus, your cheap DT lenses need redesigning simply because they do look cheap.
Also, what about those lenses (and others) that “Simon T” wrote about just prior to me? Those are certainly lenses I’d like to see as non Zeiss options. Maybe “G” lens options, but they don’t have to be.
Chop-Chop Sony! Maybe I should work for you and get your DSLT/DSLR camera department in order!
Well, the 50mm 1.4 CZ for Nikon and Canon mount may be cheaper, but it is optically … ehm, not that good. The new 55mm f/1.4 CZ will cost almost 3000, so 1600 for the Sony one with AF is a fair compromise if it’s optically good enough.
A prime lens does NOT have to be a much simpler design than a zoom lens – not at f/1.4 and not if you want almost perfect optical performance.
How solid of a rumor is that 50’s release price?
I plannning to buy A57. can i wait for A58 how much time will get to come out for A58. ?