Good Morning and welcome to the new week 🙂
Guys, the tension is beginning to grow! According to top sources Sony is about to make a new product announcement within the coming weeks. I am pretty sure there will be a new NEX-C3 successor and I have been told that the NEX-C3 will get massive price drops this week (Check at [shopcountry 7207]). And than there is the new A37. I have no exact announcement date yet but I will know it soon 😉
I am still not 100% sure but there is a fair chance Sony will show “something Full Frame” too. My guess for now is that they will display a new FF SLT prototype like they did with the A77 months before the real announcement.
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Any news about NEX lenses?
NEX lenses? whats that?
I think Sony’s strategy is to have the same amount of bodies as lenses 😛
LOL
Any info on lenses released aside from the cameras?
Would be more than appreciated 🙂
You know you’re just setting yourself up for disappointment. 😛
Nah, I held my hope for last… 2 years? So I learnt how to live with disappointments. 😉 😛
+1
The NEX-C3 price drop (at least across Europe) is the big news.
Prices are better than the old low end Olympus m4/3rds cams!
ADMIN: Any information on what the NEXC-3 successor would have that the C3 does not?
I’m not seeing it. The C3 is still expensive in the US. What kind of price drops are we talking about?
~239 Euros for the C3 body + the usual 2 year EU warranty.
Wow, that is a very good price. I’m stunned Europe is getting the deals and the US isn’t.
You get refurbished EPL1 for $150 with questionable warranty. LOL.
“Wow, that is a very good price. I’m stunned Europe is getting the deals and the US isn’t.”
Haha, nice joke!
SLT-A77VK
Europe/Germany 1.399,00 €
(http://www.sony.de/product/dsi-body-and-1-lens/slt-a77vk)
USA
1399,99 $
(http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666375243)
So in Dollar the European Price would be 1822,57 $
(http://de.finance.yahoo.com/waehrungen/waehrungsrechner/#from=EUR;to=USD;amt=1399)
So USA always having the deals.
True, Dirk, but you forgot the VAT. US prices are without and European prices include VAT. Anyway, your conclusion remains true even after subtracting the VAT.
VAT is around 20%.
In the US they might not pay (or declare) local sales taxes, so they are a LOT cheaper there.
Come on, SonyA77, you’ve got to compare the US prices PLUS local VAT to the European prices that include VAT. Not therefore, but even after adding the US-VAT to the US prices they’re cheaper than in Europe.
But I do hope very much this € 999,– price here is only a mistake: http://www.redcoon.de/B324869-Sony-SEL50F18_Festbrennweite
Wouldn’t mind picking up a C3 again. Looking forward to the pice drop.
Sony has been launching NEXs and small SLTs all the time…
Really… What was the last big camera news?
It was the A77 and that was a big disapointment for most… Even NEX7 is better…
And the only thing that is missing to the A77 is the flip-up mirror to avoid quality loss on single shots! 🙁
I don’t understand why Nikon is already using the 36Mpx sensor, and sony haven’t even announced anything at all regarding the full-frame!
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Retard.
“It was the A77 and that was a big disapointment for most…”
Please could you substantiate that claim? Particular emphasis should be placed on the word “most” when you do so.
i wonder how did A77 got so many awards and camera of the year titles….
I spent hard-earned money on the A77 and I am not disappointed. I am thrilled with it. I sniped one off of Amazon in November when they couldn’t keep the A77 stocked. If so many people are disappointed with the A77, why can’t you find any used anywhere? Right now there is one used A77 on eBay for around retail price, being sold by someone who already has an A77. Everyone I know who has bought an A77, spent their own money on it, loves it. I was happy with the A77 at firmware 1.03, and 1.05 is remarkably better!
The only people disappointed by the A77 are people who don’t use it.
+1
It’s an awesome camera!
“The only people disappointed by the A77 are people who don’t use it.”
Correct!
“It was the A77 and that was a big disapointment for most”
What planet are you living on? The A77 got great reviews.
Yes it got great reviews…
But compare it with NEX7, even with the 16mpx Nikon D7000 and really check the results…
The translucent mirror is awsome for continuous shooting and for movie recording…
For single frame, and specially on low-light, the camera should flip-up the mirror for best image quality, to be equal to NEX7!
But that doesn’t happens! And the result is inferior…
Have you actually used this camera? Your generalizations are somewhat meaningless without proper context. I like the A77. A lot.
Yes, A77, several NEX cameras, several Nikons and several Canons…
I only talk when I have tested the equipments…
And I still own a A700… and several high level Sony and Minolta lenses!
I have the NEX-7 and A77. For sports photography (well kids sports, that is), I prefer the A77. I don’t pixel peep and I am more than happy with what I get with both cameras. It’s only a matter of time when Sony is all mirrorless though. With both A mount and E mount.
@falcon below
Every review of the a77 good or bad has had nothing but praise for the a77 IQ. Obviously your 5 minutes in the Sony Store wasn’t enough.
Christ-on-a-bike yet another person who wants to take ISO 6400 pictures of their cat in the dark.
What’s Christ doing on a bike ? Funny idiom. Sony77 is right about new SLT’s being non-news. A37, A57…Sony’s just moving around the deck chairs, that’s not progress. A better S/N ratio sensor- that’s progress. Adding another ‘Creative Filter’ and calling a camera model new is BS. Fixing an overheating chip by making a new model- that’s BS too, Sony should have fixed the A55 in the first place. Detroit does this as well, they just add a new paint color for the model year and call it an “All new model”.
The A77 was built-up with so much hype before it’s release, it was bound to not meet someones’ expectations. But, it was christened the best camera by many mainstream outlets. Let’s be honest, it’s not the jack-of-all-trades new A700 was that it was designed to replace. It’s a great camera, don’t get me wrong (love that resolution). It’s to Sony’s credit that they have updated the firmware to improve the A77 further. But if your doing available-light work for interiors, the A77 would not be a good choice.
Falcon I’m sorry but you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. The A77 has superior quality to my old Canon 40D, Nikon D70, and almost the same as my old 5dmkII and current A850. Can you differentiate the shots on my website and tell me what is shot by what? http://www.wix.com/fw08504/fkwstudio
STOP LOOKING AT YOUR STUPID TESTS AND TAKE PICTURES- only then will you realize that the translucent mirror has FUCK ALL effect on the quality of your images.
++++++++!!!!!!!!
your stupidity is boundless.
Hmmmmmm……
Could a NEXC3 plus Sigma 30mm F2.8 be the lowcost very portable but pretty-damn-good IQ camera I am looking for ?
Argh ! I am so torn over wether to go mirrorless, or go SLT-A37.
35mm 1.4 Zeiss SSM Weather Sealed….PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE oh and A99 prototype!
& a 50/1.2 ZA would be nice too…
Realistically, a 35 f/1.4 and 50 f/1.4 that is equivalent to the new 16-50mm would be great. Zeiss lenses are great too, but most of us can’t afford them.
The current 35 and 50 1.4s are not worse than the 16-50 aperture for aperture. If they’re going to go to the effort of replacing them, I’d hope they set their sights a little higher.
That would be something!
I hope that’s what we’ll see. Already got money waiting on my bank account for it 🙂 Or 50mm f/1.2 unless price will be astronomical (ie. notably greater than manual metal Planar 50mm f/1.4 which I can get on my alpha through adapter for roughly 600 pounds)
sony secret strategy let canon and nikon have all the customers, wait one year, and try to take back the customers.
Matgay secret strategy, shitpost, let everybody else make intelligent comments, wait one year, and tell everybody how you were right.
Its what I do.
You are absolutelly right!
I think Sony strategy is more focused now on small cameras ans SLT… Leaving the pro models to Nikon! 🙁
And what EXACTLY gives you that impression?
Come on, Matt.
Just count how many FF camera models Sony offers on the official site. You can’t be a serious pro market oriented with 0 (Zero) models offered.
Zero for now. Sony appear to be at the beginning of a new pro strategy, not the middle or end.
The A900 came out after the D700 and just before the 5D MkII. A couple of months is nothing in a 4 year product cycle. Yes they pulled the A900/850 fairly early, presumably because they weren’t selling many at all. Just how many completely NEW FF cameras have been launched since the A900? Even Canon rushed the MkIII to market and their 1DX is delayed. The industry as a whole is becoming more secretive about their future releases and are announcing models much closer to release. I think the whole ‘Sony has been so behind in FF while others have released countless FFs in that time is a little overdone’. Sony will have a very decent FF this year, about the same time frame as everyone else.
That’s the problem!!!
Zero full frame cameras at the moment… 1 high level APS-C
(and lots of small body cameras and NEXs)
And always lots of rumors of the “future”…
After the A700 we had lots of rumors until we had the A900/A850… Rumors said that those would be the best cameras around, but they weren’t… They were cheap and accessible… but far from the the best!
Then the A77 rumors… “it’s going to be huge… the best ever”…
And it wasn’t… Nikon D7000 and NEX7 are better in terms of image quality, and just wait until Nikon starts to use that 24Mpx APS-C sensor…
(and it could have been the best if they have used the mirror flip-up on it)
And now, again… new rumors about new full frame… for next year???
And until then? Should professionals close their business and wait in case they have a problem with their actual cameras?
ZERO full frame cameras available at the moment… THIS IS TERRIBLE!
But still we have “MORE PROMISES” that the next models will be HUGE, THE BEST… and if history repeats, they won’t be! 🙁
Thanks for your points, gentlemen.
But… a few objections still.
I would count beginning of pro strategy from A900 launch. This was a really strong move with competitive camera and good lens line.
Then was a kind of pause in new lens designing (How long time you haven’t seen new FF lenses?) and finally they’ve stopped selling A900. Without launch any replacement.
As far as I know pro market (not a pro, at least not in photography), it has very low tolerance for unpredictability. And they don’t like risks. Pro’s like to know that any time in a year, 3 or 5 years they’ll have 2-3 cameras to choose from (like those 2 brands you know). And it’s quite hard to build reputation here and quite easy to lose.
For me, it seems, Sony now in a kind of situation “No profit on pro market, what to do”? Personally I like Sony and hope they’ll continue on pro market. But pretty sure they must be more active here and should stop and avoid at all cost this “Zero offer” situations.
Rurik, you don’t appear to understand what “new pro strategy” means.
@Falcon75
Why do you think high ISO is the be-all and end-all of IQ? How many times do YOU shoot higher than ISO 1600? One out of a hundred shots maybe?
#SonyA77
That’s correct.
I don’t see any “pro strategy” at the moment. And therefore suspect “Is there any?”.
Rurik, you don’t see a strategy because you aren’t part of the process. Pretty obvious really.
@Falcon75
Do you know MFNR?
If you don’t, check this:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1037&thread=40356700&page=1
and this:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1037&message=40237835&changemode=1
Can Canikon do this? 😛
Sony Secret Strategy:
Global Sensor Production Takeover.
All your sensors are belong to us!
The Eind!
Keen to see where Sony go with the C3 update. I wonder if it will give a few clues for what the 5N and 7 updates might be like……
It should be, right!? But they also can’t make it more attractive than the NEX-7 because it’s only just now hitting the market. What I’d like to see is GPS but I’m sure that’s wishful thinking.
The FF models will be forthcoming, no doubt about that. But, Sony fails to realize that customer service is key to the pro market. Sure, rich amateurs will buy the FF SLT’s, but professionals need to interface with actual humans. All Sony has to do is rip a page from Nikon’s playbook, it’s not like it’s never been done before by a big Japanese company. Sony wants to sell the FF models the same way it sells the Playstations- with minimal customer support. Good luck with that strategy, Sony.
The C3 doesn’t offer manual control over aperture/shutter like the 5N does it?
Absolutely it does.
I’ve got a hunch Sony is going to announce a new 35mm OSS at the same time- anyone else feeling it?
Because this sites comments have become nothing more than a whinge-fest rather than speculation of upcoming products, I am going to briefly attempt to reign that in by saying my predictions for the NEX-F3.
1. Plastic (cheaper) body
2. Smallest NEX yet.
3. Compatible with external EVF (might be cheaper ‘low end’ EVF as well – similar to unit found in A57)
4. Updated sensor: either slightly updated 16MP or a new ~18MP
5. Faster AF (I think this will be a big ‘push’ by Sony in the coming 12 months)
6. Finally a ‘3’ series NEX will be Full HD (probably auto only and maybe limited to 17Mbps)
7. New scene/art modes, probably new portrait modes and tele modes used in A57
8. I think some sort of lens will be announced alongside it.
9. No touch screen
10. RGBW display? Maybe
11. TRINAV… Doubt it, but I think we’ll see some of the extra controls filter down into ‘5’ series, ‘3’ will stay relatively true to the original NEX design ideas.
Now everyone can get back to bitching about how crap Sony are 😛
I would add the electronic first curtain shutter to the list. 🙂
I’ll be very surprised if it doesn’t have the video capabilities of the 5N- that includes full manual control over aperture and shutter.
Considering it has been one of the main points of difference between the 3 and 5 series since the beginning I doubt that will change much. Though it may have manual control, I suspect it won’t, nor 50/60p and lower bitrates around 17Mbps – like the original 5.
Do they have any plans to make a pancake zoom like
Panasonic Lumix G X Vario PZ 14-42mm/F3.5-5.6?
That would be a killer thing!
I suspect something like that. In the released roadmap a few months ago there was a ‘standard zoom’ that was different from the High Quality Fast Standard Zoom. Guessing it is a collapsible, possibly without OSS? Or maybe just an update more capable of resolving the 24MP sensor. But looks like a new kit zoom is coming.
I would be much more interested in a couple of reasonably small primes, with reaonably good sharpness, and a reaonably low price.
Something like 35mm F1.8.
And a good 16mm or 20mm F2.0 rather than the crap 16mm F2.8.
They better show some full frame camera and detail on the specs. Otherwise the rest of the crowd will continue to move on to the D800 and 5DmkIII. Its the last chance for them, otherwise I highly doubt that people which buy a D800 now will buy a new camera from Sony in one year.
I suspect the A99 and other FF models will offer 4K video, 3.0 USB, more focus points and a lower price (at least for the A99). But, by the time the A99 is available to buy, Nikon and to a lesser extent, Canon will have cherry-picked the majority of FF customers.
And I hope those cherry picked customers will be happy with their faulty purchases. Maybe Canon will fix their light leaking bodies with a firmware update
I’m no Canikon fan-boy. Would I have the online name Zony, if I was?
But we need to put pressure on Sony to release these FF products sooner than later.
Do not understand how a structural problem with the Canon can be fixed with with firmware. Compared to the Canon, the Nikon 800 has a on-board flash, is cheaper, more megapixels and can be a low-light champ when the settings are changed to reflect lower MPx.
If Sony can get the A99 out the door for $1999., that’s a game-changer. Not having a pentamirror is a huge cost-saver that should be passed-on to the consumer. If Sony prices the A99 at 3K, it will be bought only by we who have a collection of A-mount glass and Sony will not gain any market penetration in the FF arena.
I was being sarcastic.
Sounds true, as I check the Sonystyle online store in China, nex-c3 is now labelled”Sold out” which means new type will be soon
still waiting for something really exciting being it A99 or A97
perhaps time for new nex-5 to support hotshoe flash
How about the large sensor compact that has been rumored a while ago? Is that still on the list?
Me too, where is it? I don’t find the NEX “compact” with a lens, a reasonably priced APS-C zoom compact would be very useful.
What about the G1X competitor with pancake fixed zoom lens? This is what I am waiting for.
Sadly I have sold my NEX-5N and gone back to my DSC-R1 for many many reasons but the lack of an equivalent lens was pretty much top of the list. Because of my very happy years with the R1 I would like to have another Sony but honestly the last thing we need is new bodies. If they announced a pancake zoom and a decent 16-80mm that would fix it for me but I am now thinking I have waited long enough, the Olympus OM-D M5 looks very interesting.
I’m in the same situation, still using R1 with no possible replacement.
Yes, new Oly seems interesting. But there is no lens like the R1 16-80 for m4/3. The Oly 12-60 is 4/3 only and the new 12-50 is not optically good enough.
The SEL18200 is remarkably good and the Ramron 18-200 isn’t bad either. They are fairly large but the NEX-7 tamed with one of them is a great vacation camera pacakge.
OMG… another “months” ?
Wow, again no ff announcement. Sony just can’t get it together in the ff market.
You are on a RUMOUR site. You expect Sony to announce something before they, erm, well, announce it?
SVOR, I’m with you. I’ve been waiting for a better zoom lens for NEX-7 while using my old and trusty Panny G1. The new Oly, with a good range of lenses, may get my money since I’m tired of waiting on Sony to produce one good zoom.
We wan lenses, not more bodies.
Whattabout expediating that NEX G zoom lens!
Puuuuurrrrrleeeeeassssseee!
(i dont know who to reply above, the bashing of Sony for the PRO)
Pro, not PRO, camera for noob, camera for PRO.
camera is only as good as you.
you suck, ur camera suck worst.
you good, your camera is better.
Sorry for bad english, but its simple enough to understand for non english speaker.
i use a A300, i shoot better then any PRO(self claimed) in my town with overprice camera and overpriced lens.
hmmmm…after reading at some of the comments here I got another explanation about why Sony wanted to put down this site… Rumours can make people feel either excited about upcoming “possible” announcements or angry because of the time that takes from the rumour announcement to the REAL thing announcement. I’m on the Excited people group =D
Not to mention people who don’t buy the current bodies out there because there’s a rumor about a new body. Like me 🙂
I’m sure that that is one of the reasons Sony must hate this rumor site.
Not only are rumors about new Sony camera bodies spread around the web from this site but the many recent posts complaining about the lack of lenses must hurt sales by those who use the web to research before buying.
I for one was just about to purchase the 70-400 G lens with the one-off grey finish till I learned that Sony was to soon replace it.
Now I’m just holding onto my cash to see what Sony is going to do.
I would see it from a different standpoint. Both Canon and Nikon have new products on the market. The D800 is an excelent performer and sells extremely well. Sony is in big risk of loosing a lot of its current customers to Nikon due to this and to Canon due to the 5DmkIII. Those who have so far not decided to jump ship are only kept away from jumping by these rumors. There is still a slim chance that Sony will WOW us with a camera which is beyond our expectations. I myself give Sony the last chance as I am on the edge and ready to jump to Canon.
A lot of people in this site will never be happy with Sony, no matter what they do. The NEX-7 and A77 are great cameras. So in the 5N. Yet people here always seem quick to take Sony to task. I am not a pro so perhaps my needs are different. But the Sony equipment I have is more than adequate for the photography that I do.
¡¡Please SONY READ THIS COMMENTS¡¡
Work hard in FF and good quality lens for Nex 7
Sony A99 will be the big sleeper for the Olympics. Keep in mind that 24mp at 16fps won’t be too shabby!
I’ll be damned if it comes this summer. Big applause for Sony to deliver FF dSLT, even if they decide to ship another FF OVF later on. Picture this 24MP, 24 fps dual bionz dSLT with 3s buffer (72 frame in RAW), clean ISO up to 6400.
I want a NEX VG30 that’s actually not a crippled piece of ****.
Sony’s own lens road map says 4 lens will be released this year. We are 1/3 through already, no even rumor vapor on anything… yet… more bodies….