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It’s only a matter of time until the first NEX-FF photocamera will be announced. I should receive more bits about the exact announcement period soon. In the meantime I have been told by a trusted source that along the first NEX-FF camera you will see the announcement of two new Zeiss FulL Frame and E-mount lenses. One will be a zoom and the other one a prime lens. And important…everything will be expensive 🙁
The NEX-FF definitely has on sensor PDAF. I am now working to get full reliable specs but the chance is high we are talking about a very compact camera with 30+ Megapixel sensor. Stay tuned on SAR! More coming soon!
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Specs of the Zeiss lenses are unknown but Zeiss has a great history of FF lenses made for the “Full Frame” ZM analog camera:
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[shoplink 9804 ebay]Biogon T* 2,8/21 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9804 ebay]C Biogon T* 4,5/21 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
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[shoplink 9808 ebay]C Biogon T* 2,8/35 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9809 ebay]C Sonnar T* 1,5/50 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9809 ebay]Planar T* 2/50 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
[shoplink 9810 ebay]Sonnar T* 2/85 ZM (Click here to see price on eBay)[/shoplink].
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My bet is it will have a 32 megapixel sensor so in crop mode it’s still 24 megapixels. I wonder if the prime is the FF version of the E mount 24mm that was included in its patent.
The area of a sensor is proportional to the square of the crop factor. So a FF sensor would need to be 36MP for it to 16MP in crop mode or 54MP to be 24 in crop mode.
To be a little more precise 56mp would crop down to 24mpf8 in aps c.
Depth of field and sensor size (or more precisely magnification ratio ) are always a trade off.
I currently use the a77. I have no desire to take a step backwards in resolution just to step up to full frame. Therefore 54 or 56mp is really the minimum that would not actually be a DECREASE in resolution.
While I prefer an increase in resolution I most definitely do not want a decrese.
IBIS is another issue.
I fully expect this camera will not have IBIS. The Alpha Fox system will resemble the slr shape which I am hoping will include enough room for the new 5 axis IBIS. With a full range of adapters this could be a universal camera.
Sony talks about starting out with an entry level fox (which is a great idea). I would also like to see a fox with sonys best new sensor. People with good lens collections want to use them not replace them until they need new lenses.
90% or more of lenses people currently own do not have oss.
Without IBIS sony automatically excludes 99% of its potential customers.
you’re reasoning only holds if you only do macrophotography.
nobody else cares about pixel density. for all practical matters, 32mp is “higher resolution” than 24mp.
The determining factor is magnification ratio/f#
Evrything else sort of cancels out.
If you frame the same subject on a larger sensor at yhe same f# thr dof would be less.
54mp is the break even point where you dont have to give up something to get something else.
I want to take a step forward WITHOUT having to take half a step backwards to get there.
36Mpx?
Sorry… Error in previous post.
OK with Dave Lively
Yes, 36 MP. CF^2 * 16 = 2.25 * 16 = 36
I would expect a sensor very similar to the one in the Nikon D800E, but with PDAF.
If the resolution doesn’t at least equal that of the D800, it will be hard to sell the camera at a premium price.
I think you got your basic arithmetics wrong.
It would have to be 48 Mpixels to give you 24 Mpixels in crop. APS-C area is *half* the size of FF area
56mp
There’s no need for that much, noise could also be too high. You should try an A99 and actually feel the power of an FF. I’d rather be on the “safe” side within 36-40 MP.
Nonsense!”!!!
Why on earth would noise be higher the pixel density (resolution the pixel level) is identical.
Furthermore since this will be the next generation of sensor ISO will be at least one or two stops higher. Noise will be LOWER resolution and image quality will be improved.
I don’t know why people need to run around hollering about the sky falling every time someone tslks about a better camera.
There’s no need for that much, noise could also be too high. You should try an A99 and actually feel the power of an FF. I’d rather be on the “safe” side within 36-40 MP.
36mm/24mm is 1.5
1.5×1.5 is 2.25
2.25 x 24mp is 54mp
54mp would crop to 24mpthe in aps c.
My statement of 56 was incorrect it is actually 54mp.
Sorry.
Even if you use the rounded cropfactor of 1.5, there is no way you can end up with a factor 2 difference in MP or half the size for APS-C. Using a rounded cropfactor of 1.5, it would account for 54 MP on a FF camera. Using the exact cropfactor that Sony uses, you’re actually looking at 56 MP.
I think we need to invest more in math lessons in school.
Very expensive? R.I.P. Nex-FF. Sorry
RX1 is very expensive and is Alive and Well
Just because you and I cannot afford a camera, doesn’t mean nobody can.
The world is full of rich people. If it wasn’t, Leica would not be building a new factory.
Only NEX is not Leica. Just to remind you: Hasselblad Lunar.
now you’re just trolling, LOL.
Im also thinking Lunar price for this thing… And, you will have 2 lenses to choose from at launch!
Very expensive can be just numbers.
If it delivers better than a Leica M and if it can take Leica M lenses…it can cost £3000 GBP and it will still sell well.
R.I.P??? camera hasn’t even been released yet. I guess a 50 mm and a 24-70. People will pay and Sony will get a jump on the other companies wanting to get into this market. All the naysayers said the same thing about the rx1 when it was announced. Not now.
I would thought that 35mm, 38mm or 40mm is more likely than 50mm. It is much more universal and in this camera you can crop in post. RX1 which is FF went with 35mm for this very reason.
let’s hope its a fast zoom
FulL Frame and E-mount lenses
That is good to hear that they stayed with E-mount.
Meaning full compatibility with actual Nex lenses (crop if needed)
I was afraid that Sony introduces a new Mount, Or a new Flange distance variation for its FF Nex.
And the moset important:
Is there an IBIS somewhere 🙂 ?
maybe 🙂
Please, On that…
Do not post until you are 99.99% Sure 🙂
Otherwise… And if the rumor got wrong…
There will be a Tsunami here in the forum 🙂
I am pretty confident. Obvioulsy a rumor can be wrong soemtimes. But le’ts say the chance I am wrong here is very low…
Seems like my dreams come true soon!
OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!
Hurray, +1000mp and any other good comments you can think of for IBIS.
Now if they add high resolution and an affordable price CAMERA HEAVEN.
What?! IBIS?? If so, then Sony is creating a no-compromize camera here, especially if they get the AF right and make it dust protected as the NEX-7 successor is rumored to be. Keep it within A99 price, and it WILL sell big.
I’m a strong believer in NEX-FF but this is turning out like the ultimate camera. and that’s not good news. something will have to go. and if it’s price, then we might be looking at a $4000+ camera here, considering the specs (new sensor pdaf, ibis, high res, small body, full frame…)
I was hoping something could be left aside — ibis perhaps, because it’s a nice feature but not ground-breakingly essential — but apparently not even that.
…well if it has a good FF sensor, IBIS, decent video features, weather sealing, and e-mount in a housing around the size of the Nex-7 how could it possibly be less than $2800? If they add fancy video tech, on sensor phase detection, a global shutter, and a FF sensor with the pixel density of the Nex7 sensor (which managed to cramp 240×240 pixels in every square mm) it will undoubtedly cost substantially more. I am happy to pay more and be done with it.
IBIS…..In body image stabilizaton…works on lenses lacking OSS… optical stabilization system.
Note OSS is usually two axis.. Sony might use 5axis IBIS developed by olympus which eould actually be better.
M43rumors broke this as a FT5(=SR5) rumor weeks ago
But as per Sony’s previous statement, IBIS is not possible because of the form factor of the NEX. The rumoured FF NEX is only slightly bigger than the NEX-7.
Wait a sec! Andrea, are you saying that this FF NEX may REALLY have and IN-BODY Image Stabilization??????? If that’s so, OMG! It’d be the camera of my dreams!
(even if I have to sell a kidney to be able to buy it! 😀 )
+1
If it provides IBIS, BIS and excellent IQ in a sleek minimalistic and modern NEX package, I have $4k right here waiting for you Sony!
I know that it’s physically impossible that a FF Nex with IBIS would be as small as the current Nex cameras. But even if they get a cm bigger, doesn’t matter to me. Specially after I’ve seen the BIG brick that the Fuji X-Pro1 is.
As long is it maintains the rangerfinder form-factor, it’s fine by me. It is simply more discreet and less intimidating to people.
+1
if really the full frame nex having IBIS, my higher chance will be buying this full frame nex. I can straight use my full frame a-mount lenses with stabilisation without any problem. Higher price of nex full frame not a problem anymore, better than need buy stabilisation lens with extra cost every each lens. Now, im looking forward to see other spec
It can easily integrate into our FF A-mount system, just buy the body and a compact zoom and the rest of the primes can just use our FF A-mount lenses via an adaptor (from Sony).
Any chance the new NEX-7 may get the IBIS too?
I have no real info but the recent rumor suggested an indreas in size and weight that matches the dimensions i would expect IBIS to have.
Totally guessing though.
With Sony’s new relationship with Olympus – perhaps they should adopt Olympus’ very good IBIS system for this full frame camera – which won’t be directly competing with m4/3 systems.
If it is the 24mm then that means we can expect an rx2 with 50 mm lens to be released in the not too distant future.
I also got rumors about the new RX. But if they are correct it’s not a 50mm lens.
Please don’t tell me it will be an 85mm. I can take 24mm, but anything longer than 50 (ok maybe 55mm or 45mm) will be way too niche, I believe.
It may be a zoom.
Also…
I never believed in IBIS in actaul Nex.
As the strategy from Sony (All Lenses mainly have OSS) suggest no future for IBIS in Nex body.
But with the rumor of Pana GX7 with IBIS
I still have some hope (even if minimal) for Nex with IBIS.
That really makes the system more attractive!!!
Especially when I think that Nex is not the ideal for >300mm lenses (FF)
… Legacy lenses with stabilisation… more compact and less complicate lens design…
Hope… hope.. hope..
I like what I am hearing. Pricey? Of course. A cheap FF NEX would only mean Sony is starting to go for simpler build quality and cheaper thechnology. Expensive FF NEX means top notch materials and spear head technology. I just regained a little bit of confidence in Sony now.
Good point.
But the weakest point of all the current NEXes is the software. However well constructed the camera is, if they don’t sort out the menu system it will still be sub-professional.
Tethering, ability to use remote control with HDR etc, HDR (JPG)+single (RAW), etc etc.
Get a professional photographer onto the software team.
Nothing stops this camera to get a user interface similar to A99, RX1, RX100. These 3 cameras are so different but use very similar user interface.
+1
how does Sony expect someone to press the button for the duration of bracketing without introduce shake??
Sony needs to upgrade the software.
we need photo of new camera real photo
yes. Working on it. Don’t worry 🙂
It seems like SONY is impotent to develop its own high quality primes. All new primes come from Zeiss. I hate ZA price tag. That is why I’m not going to get FF in the near future, not from SONY for sure.
High quality lenses can never be cheap. Some of the glass used costs more than gold, and quality control is expensive.
Sigma may be able to make top quality lenses at a slightly lower price than Zeiss and Leitz.
No matter how many lenses are available people will complain.
Thats because everyone needs different lenses and if your lens is not available there are not enough lenses.
If this new nex does indeed have IBIS sony should and probably will produce a full line of compatable adapters.
You can now use any lens by any manufacturer.
Problem solved.
I do not believe SONY will ever make adapters for Canikon mounts. Metabones maybe will. E-mount has better outlook is this regard then a-mount. There are only old not so cheap legacy FF lenses and very expensive ZA a G lenses. Cheap plastic FF like 85/2.8 does not impress me at all. Third party lenses do not work with OSPDAF. If SONY does not bring cheap FF in a year I will look elsewhere.
I really hope those excellent ZM lenses will continue to work well with camera. If the sensor is back-illuminated then the chances are very good.
I think the prime e-mount lens will be a modified RX1 f/2 35mm prime and the zoom. The 24mm makes sense though based on the patent.
I agree Freddo, about the expensive meaning quality, and I’m happy about that. I don’t want to see a stripped down full frame from Sony personally, although I know the demand is there with the Canon 6d etc..
I wonder how big theses lenses are going to be and if the Full Frame Nex camera will be sized larger? otherwise when you put the camera down it will always be on the lens and look awkward etc..
I also was hoping the new full frame RX would have a longer 50mm lens. Perhaps Sony will go with a zoom instead. The zoom makes much more sense because it’s probably the same as the new E-Mount Zeiss zoom??
Later
Jay
The size of a lens of given focal length (say 50mm) depends on the maximum aperture (diameter of elements), the image quality (number of elements), the focus range, and whether it has extras such as autofocus or stabilisation.
You can make a good small 50mm FF lens if you keep the max aperture to f/3.5 or maybe f/2.8.
though that makes it _almost_ useless, since 50/2.8 FF is equivalent to 35/2 APS-C, which would mean that you paid a lot of money for FF for something that can be easily obtained with APS-C.
(_almost_ useless because with FF you could still choose to buy large bright lenses unavailable to APS-C)
Why should it be useless? You should get better image quality, both resolution and gradation, on the FF sensor, whatever the max aperture of the lens in use.
What you lose in a small lens is the shallow depth of field effect that is currently popular. So if you want that effect you put your f/1.4 lens on the camera – while if you want to put the camera in your (large) pocket you put the f/2.8 lens on.
I see your point, but I think it’s minor, even because 50/2.8 or 35/2 is also the same in terms of quantity of light in the sensor. same light = same information = same potential iq. I do agree however that the usual FF sensor produces better images given the larger pixels.
So yeah, the 50/2.8 FF could look marginally better than the 35/2 APS-c. For me (subjectively) the additional price wouldn’t be worth the additional quality.
I would not buy FF if the only options were slow-ish lenses. Of course with legacy/vintage lenses this problem is quickly solved (I myself cant wait to use a 57/1.2 on ff)
My imput is to go with 54 mp exactly matching the density of the current aps c no no half step backward to take a step forward.
New generation of sensor will actually improve performance across the board.
No need to keep the aperture to 2.8 or 3.5. If you look at the old Nikon 50mm f/2 lenses, the front element was really small and recessed far back in the lens body.
I am pretty sure sigma will make some very good lenses for much cheaper than the zeiss
hooray!!!
The bad news might be that the zoom for the FF is the only new zoom for E-Mount.
Not a probem. Use your amount with an adapter.
That makes sense for FF, but to use LA-EA2 on APS-C NEX is cumbersome and bulky, I would never use it, and I’m not alone.
Not true, there should be G zoom for APS-C. That FF zoom will come separately and will be expensive. While G zoom is targeted at APS-C NEX cameras.
I hope so too. Let‘s see what the other SR4/5 rumors are about.
The NEX-7 successor will be announced together with a high grade zoom in August. So no, APS-C HQ zooms are stille rumored to be on the agenda. Just wait and see.
No 50mm on RX2. Hmm 24??? Little Landscape high performer???
is the Zeiss 50/2.8 FF then?
If this nex does have IBIS it can be sol anywhere as an impulse item.
All a store needs to sell is the camera and a few adapters.
Unlimited market potential for a universal camera.
If only Sony could make adapters with fast AF (fast AF and not slooooow AF, like most adapters eg EF to NEX – very slow AF) – then basically it would be the start of the end of Canikon. However, I’m sure no one will make fast AF adapters – basically we are left for MF. And that will not change market much, not many people are using MF. I’m talking here of millions of Canikon users who would have potentially switched to Sony if AF adapters had acceptable fast AF – but it won’t happen and they will stay with Canikon. That’s how it will be.
Agreed they need to make good fast adapters.
I believe that even if sony doesnt make them someone will.
It will be very surprising if Sony themselves make any adapters except for A mount.
But there are plenty of eager manufacturers who do, and somebody will make ones with electronic control.
In the world where are live there are precious few people who have $4k must have gadget impulses.
Thats why sony is also making an entry level fox.
Wasn’t the new nex going to be with dslr sized body?
Thats the alpha fox
A different camera also supposed to be on the way.
Ahh! Your right..mixed them upp…..
whats the point doing primes 35-50mmish with anything slower than f1.4, seriously?
35mm f2 is usually considerably lighter and smaller than 35mm f1.4. that’s why I got mine. and it’s cheaper to. 50mm slower than 1.4 are usually macro or budget alternative.
What about the form factor? Like the nex-7? I really hope so! DSLR style doesn’t make any sense – we want to get rid of the bulk… My back will be pleased!
admin, what do you think an adapter for legacy 35mm lenses – let’s say form metabones or novoflex – will look like? smaller? my guess is smaller than with aps-c nex (cos those lenses are built for 35mm i.e. FF).
Forget adapting legacy 35mm glass! If the flange distance is as short as the NEX APS-C cameras is, I’m excited about a company like Metabones developing a focal reducer so that I could adapt a medium format lens like the 80mm f/2.0 Zeiss for the Contax 645 AF system. Its “look” is basically the holy grail of portrait photography. And currently the only way to get its “look” is to shoot a Contax 645 AF body and scan your film, or attach a Phase One digital back to the camera (for about $20,000-$30,000).
A FF NEX means Speedboosters for Medium Format lenses are something that may be in my future, and that’s the most exciting thing to me!
A focal reducer for medium format lenses isn’t going to happen. Not only would there be much mess demand, but the focal reducer from FF to APSC relies on the the mount itself covering FF. The reducer for a medium format lens wouldn’t likely even fit in a E-mount adapter.
Sounds quite good. Think I’m gonna continue using APS NEX for some years and get one of those compact FFs when they are both cheaper and more mature.
Full frame is 36 x 24mm = 864 sq mm. Sony APSC is 23.5 x 15.6mm = 367 sq mm. So APSC is 42% of the area of full frame. So 36MP FF crops to 15mp. Given the difficulty for lenses to ‘please’ the 24mp Nex7 sensor it would seem that the optimal MP for APSC with current technology is 16MP as this gives sufficient resolution for most people without sacrificing the light gathering advantages of larger pixels, and this in turn suggests 36mp is currently optimal for full frame (again, given current technology).
After all, I haven’t read any complaints about the resolution of the RX1 and that is ‘only’ 24MP which equates to about 10MP on ASPC.
If you haven’t read any complaints about the current low res cameras and the need for higher resolution you have not been reading my posts.
That’s an understatement!
What I posted was that I haven’t read any complaints about the resolution of the RX1 – I’m sure there are some people who would like more resolution; there always are. I wonder if Cartier Bresson would have been one of them…..
Unless it offers something very new (like complete modularity) I’d be surprised to see it priced higher than $2800, their asking price their two other full frame options (a99 without discounts and rx1).
It’s also surprising to see full frame only nex lenses, unless they can somehow be made to be cross compatible with alpha mount.
A great gadjet to go with this would be a remote (corded usb) electronic viewfinder.
A small device that would flip down / clip onto glasses.
If it has bluetooth/wi-fi capability, it could be used like a go pro camera – controlled via smartphone with live view feed.
Sony will sell more lenses if they leave out IBIS, as there will be a reason to go for one of their OSS products. If the new FF e-mount bodies have IBIS, then clearly Sony’s new FF e-mount lenses will not have OSS. I don’t know then what draw Sony branded lenses will have–Sony does want to sell lenses!
Totally dissagre.
This is a universal cammera that anyone can use including the 90% that will never switch to sony lenses.
If they have the camera they may try a sony lens for it.
These new customers will far exceed the ones who would be forced to buy a lens they already have.
NEX FF. The least profitable Sony move ever. Betamax, you have been pwned.
Well, they’re not discontinuing the aps-c nex line, they are listening to their rx1 customers who wish it was interchangeable. If it doesn’t do well, they will simply continue to make aps-c nex bodies.
If it does not do well, they will lose TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS (more if they persist for more than one generation) on R&D and tooling first, and only then, if they survive this foolishness, they will continue do some sensible stuff. They have 3 not-competitive lens systems already, and they are creating the fourth, with even bigger lens-body imbalance than the current NEX system (which is ridiculously imbalanced already with anything but 16-50)? Why – they could simply create a Metabones-style focal reducer for A-mount lenses on APS-C E-mount bodies (with full electronic support) and be done with it, reducing their systems to sensible two – cheap and compact E-lenses and expensive FF A-mount lenses which could be used on E-mount cameras in two ways – with crop factor at native apertures, or without crop factor at 1 stop faster(compensating for smaller sensor), for those few who don’t care about lens size.
Weren’t you claiming doom and gloom for the NEX 7 when it was first released? Even the handling was so bad, it would be dead in the water.
I bet Sony listens to you! 😀
It’s a big company, they can afford to take the risk. Any loss would be relatively small. Plus you are assuming that all the r&d would be wasted, which is unlikely. The engineering and developments will be recycled in other products.
At the least, the full frame e-mount lenses can be used with the full frame e-mount video cameras. I’d like to think the engineers devised a way to use the full frame e lenses on alpha bodies.
betamax eventually DID become industry standard for broadcast (as betacam ) which is a huge professional market. I believe Sony got their money back, even though average Joe didn’t use it at home.
Tssk tssk. Betacam just taught you a history lesson.
I had great hope for the Nex line, and bought a 5n, some lenses etc, partially due to my rather big investment in Minolta/Sony glass.
However, for video, which is more interesting too me, Sony is really short-changing the nex base. Audio support is bad, no clean hdmi, very low bitrate video etc.
In response to this, I bought a GH3 for “slow mo”(“only” 60p though), wide angle shots (bought a olympus 9-18) and it has clean hdmi+good bitrates out of the box (no 4:2:2 yet though). Audio support is much better (though now xlr attachment, it allows for audio monitoring/levels, agc disable etc)
It’s too bad Sony decided to protect their high end video division so hard – but waiting 2 years was quite enough, and the hacking community did not come through for us either. (even after many donations)
The GH3 is only 3 times more expensive….Did you really hope Sony will pack the punch of 1500$ camera into 500$ camera…Why did not you compare to low grade Panasonic that lacks 60p and lacks full control over video on top of what Sony have cut….NEX-6 and 7 solve some of your complaints for not much more cache. Higher end video focused products do provide clean HDMI and they do not cost much more than GH3.
What is the point of the troll post than? You liked GH3 better this is fine. You could have got some of the VG series NEX cameras geared towards video. Including the VG-900 which is full frame.
Not talking about the 5n specifically, but they are not showing any interest since then. By the way, I paid 1049 on Amazon for my GH3.
It is not a troll-post, I am frustrated after 2 years of Sony not doing anything – and have in the past defended Sony products.
The cheapest camera Sony has that would be a match is the FS100, and it still has horribly bad internal codecs. (good with an external recorder though). It is FAR more expensive than my GH3. I also would like something with a better form factor for multi-use. While video is important to me, so is taking pictures. For video, I have invested in a rig that my camera mounts to.
It’s a wake-up call to Sony – not that I think it helps – they aren’t even noticing how popular the mk3 and gh2/gh3 is for video apparently.
+1
Sony is very late for the video ! (NEX & Alpha)
Bitrate, codec … it is time for a change!
Once nex cameras all have the multiport hotshoe than there will be a lot more video accessory options including the XLR adaptor (XLR-K1M).
Thanks. That is true.
I will still hold on to my minolta glass for a while. If nothing else it can be adapted to work well for video on m43 cameras, and if I am lucky maybe we get a speedbooster at some point.
Of course, if Sony turns around and start caring about people with smaller budgets than $5000+ for cameras, I’d consider getting onboard again.
(And sorry for those who bring up VG cams, no, NONE of the VG series cameras count as series quality products. Look at the reviews, they fare horribly)
Realize Sony may expect to sell some its coming FF e-mount lenses to customers who will use them on current NEX bodies along with coming FF NEX bodies (or those who think they might at some point get a FF NEX body — just like many A mount customers who only have a cropped body go for FF lenses to have such flexibility). So there still may be an allure to OSS.
Admin, any info about the size of this new FF NEX? To me the smaller the better: I don’t like DSLR shape/size cameras.
Only makes sense to make the next RX with a zoom lenses since it’s a cybershot.
I can’t tell you how many times I hand my camera to people to take a picture of my family (and me) and they ask “how do I zoom?”.
I just thought of an idea as I typed. I should pick a spot first for them to stand in before I hand them the camera.
Hi Admin, would like to know the size of the NEX FF, as all of the current NEX bodies are pretty compact and easy to carry. Would really hope for a compact NEX-7 sized FF, maybe a bit bigger for even better ergonomics. Please let us know soon!
I’m lost. The word is that NEX is prosumer or advanced amateur whilst A-mount is professional. But if that’s Sony’s strategy… This FF-NEX seems professional, what keeps it from being redundant to the FF mirrorless A-mount?
E mount with IBIS is universal. Usable by the 90+% of users that have other lenses ans will never buy a mount.
aps c nex is consumer. ff nex is filthy rich.
I understand the NEX lenses would be expensive, but I still don’t see a reason that the camera needs to cost more than the RX1, which includes a Zeiss prime. They should release two cameras, a 24mp and a 36mp. One for enthusiasts and one for pros. Both should work well with rangefinder glass.
Admin
do you think the first A ff release of ’14 will have higher specs, features than the second one and higher than than the full frame nex.?
I don’t know it yet. There is also a chance both FF models will be announced at the same time!
Andrea, do you think the full frame sensor will be the same across the full frame line (as the current one is shared between a99 & rx1)?
no.
Andrea, please post more details on the Project Alpha Fox ( e-mount DSLR) … a design idea (photo/rendering)would be great! Thanks!
working on it.