A source told me that the 16-35mm Zeiss and the 28-135mm powerzoom Sony will be the only two FE lenses (with exception of the Loxia) released officially. Sony will also show three FE lens specs on their updated FE lens roadmap but these lenses will not be shown for “real” at Photokina and final pricing and full detailed specs will be announced months after Photokina.
One more thing: One of the rumored lenses should be the new 85mm Zeiss FE (SR4).
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How many years do I need to wait for the 85mm… :’D… wish it would be 90mm f2 though :3
90mm F2 with macro up to at least 1:2 and I’m sold (and until then, I’ll keep looking around for the Zuiko 90mm F2 Macro).
Well, it has been less than a year. Fuji users waited two years+ for their 85mm equiv.
f4 , how boring.
*sigh* some people just don’t “get it”.
boring and outpriced
it must deliver – it doesnt need to entertain you.
we will see if its overpriced…
of course it have to entertain me in the way it may fill my needs in terms of wide angle. At f4 it simply doesn’t .
Just interested, what do you use your wide angles for and what makes f/2.8 so much more usable than f/4?
this one for example shot last week with an A7 and a FD 28mm f2.0 stopped at 2.8 to maintain some sharpness. http://hpics.li/3691812 .
F4 in those conditions is not an option. Also i do like a lot some nice dof associated with a wide angle composition.
Well astrophotography will be a fairly small proportion of people using this lens, even if it was f/2.8.
Nice shot BTW.
boring because you need that ultra shallow DOF on your wideangle landscape shots? 😀
Well, for astrophotography, it can be very nice to have a wide fast lens! It’s not always about having a shallow DOF, especially if you’re shooting something decently far using hyperfocal distance. Some people do want to get as much light in as possible for a certain amount of time.
Astrophotography is so niche that it’s probably not in Sony’s considerations at all. I would use a fast prime lens of any manufacturer and adapt it. Proabably one of the coming Zeiss Loxias if no adapter wanted.
Yeah, I’m using a Samyang 16 f/2. I like that lens a lot. I find that an other good use for a wide angle fast lens is that you can use it to shoot in low light handheld. Because of the wider angle, you can use lower shutter speeds than with a more standard lens without getting camera motion blur. But you’re right, I guess most people shoot in better conditions. And for a zoom… F/4 for compactness or f/2.8 makes a better rounded lens. 2.8 would still not be fast enough to shoot handheld in really low light anyway, so I wouldn’t even use it for a really low light handheld situation (unless I have an A7S!).
With today’s sensors, the difference between F4 and F2.8 is hardly that significant, compared to the weight and size savings – which is great for a landscape lens that one will lug around. I guess, we will soon see a faster wide and manual prime from Zeiss, which will be much better suited for astro.
Hep, I agree. It’s why for a zoom I’m pretty happy with constant f/4.
At f4 aperture max ,a wide angle become effectivly limited to landscapes which is unacceptable at that price tag .
Well the most common uses for a UWA will be landscape, architecture and maybe interiors. f/4 is adequate for most. I see a lot of people selling their Canon 16-35 f/2.8s for the new stabilised f/4 version.
But then you don’t need a full frame in the beginning, APS-C and 10-18mm would be much better then..
Not if you appreciate the long end of the 16-35mm too. Plus that lens is no good if you own one FF body.
Why wouldn’t one need a FF? I am buying it for the overall rendering.
Interesting… So 1 will definitely be the 85mm (guessing 1.8 as size is less of an issue), any clue on the other 2? A 100/2.8 macro would make sense (90mm would be too close to the 85mm and I can’t see an FE 50mm macro selling).
85mm Zeiss FE (SR4).
Yeaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
Let’s hope it ‘ll be fast enough
That thing must be über good and ultra expensive given the time they have been working on it.
F2 will be enough. I wouldn’t mind 2.8, if it is really smaller.
same with me, waiting more than 1 year for a standard 85 mm prime lense is ridiculous. 3 A 7 cameras but not a proper group of prime lenses, a 35 mm with 1.4 would be nice . Okay I have old vintage glas which helps with waiting. And I bought a A6000 together with the FE 55 mm 1.8 its quiet nice th get the same angle.
A7r with 55 1.8 in crop mode or A6000 gives you a 83mm F2.2 lens in terms of FOV and DOF.
An 85 F2 for the A7r would probably not be noticable different others than using 36MP instead of 15MP.
It would be equivalent to 83mm f/2.8-ish.
1.8 x 1.5 = 2.7
excuse my wrong math. I was surprised myself 😀
Okay, 85 F2 makes more sense then 😉
Hehe, I agree with your point though. The FE 55 makes a nice 85mm equivalent portrait lens on my NEX-6. 85 f/2.8 DOF equivalent is perfectly adequate in most circumstances.
Yeah but 36 MPs is exactly that what I need for my business and big enlargements not 15 MPs , this is why I bought the A7R, I have a MD 85 mm 2.0 quiet good lense from the vintage minoltage era but its MF. I really like the FE cameras but lenses road map are hopefully getting better in the next 6 months.
Less than one year, but anyway.
I have my Sony A7R since last October :-))
With our luck, they’ll announce a 85/2.8, 60mm macro and the same 70-200 in black.
Sounds about right… Never got how they can be bang on the money with bodies but so wide of the mark with lenses so often.
I sincerely hope the do a line of f/2.8 primes to complement the tiny 35/2.8. A great lens and a great way to compete with Micro Four Thirds.
Sounds good to me.
A lot of people are such cry baby’s over here. Boohoohoo there are not enough lenses boohoohoo and they are not fast enough. If you do not like the FE line buy somthing else. But you are not going to because everybody here nows the FE line is the best you can get at this moment. There is no competition if you want stunning output from a small, robust, ergonomic and cheap FF Mirrorless camera. Sony is really rocking at this moment.
Sony rocks for cameras no doubt , but they suck at lenses .I do use a FE system with fast lenses , but none of them are from sony or zeiss.
Good!! Then why the whines? :/
For example: The Sony implementation of TTL flash metering doesn’t work as good without native lenses.
I don’t think it’s a major issue…
maybe but the lack of a decent AF is one as well as the hasardous match of legacy lenses with a modern sensor .
Sony lenses policy is not good so far .They should be as reactive /creative with their lenses than their are with their cameras.
It might not be a major issue for YOU. But as hard as it sounds: Your needs are not everybody else’s needs.
I use Manual and TTL and the lack of TTL isn’t a major issue.
The lack of a true compatible remote wireless controller is a major issue (read : not excessively priced)
Yes. I know. I’m also having a hard time replacing my TTL PWs. (Hypersync!)
The thing is, I usually use Profotos as my main lights. But I really enjoy using a TTL Speedlight + Roundflash as a fill. So I can move around, and still nailing a decent exposure.
I find that TTL flash metering works perfectly on the A7 with HVL-F20M and legacy manual lenses. What issues are you seeing?
i m not whinig , but eventually complaining .See my response below for the reasons.
It’s the same thing;)
it s not whining is about camplainig for no reasons .I have some good ones.
Because the FE 35mm, 55mm and the 70-200mm G suck, right?
The 55mm is great, 70-200 reviews well. But the 35/2.8 is too slow for a lot of people (if it’s fast enough for you, congrats, but it’s a big compromise for anyone used to a 35/1.4). As for the 28-70 and 24-70…
Slow for some, maybe, but it definitely doesn’t “suck”.
+1
16-50 f/5.6-11 ZA
18-200 f/5.6-22 ZA
&
50 f/8 macro G ?
Haha… No.
Hopefully it’s going to be a 24-105mm f/4, a 28-85mm f/2.8 and a 35-70mm f/3.5-5.6.
We definitely need more standard zooms, because they are so exiting. I’d buy all six of them, so I can put them in my camera bag. We all know, a big bag full of lenses makes us look professional.
Bag full of heavy lenses definitely helps with harassed/faintly desperate look (otherwise you just look like a tourist). Oh and obviously they need to be mf cos pros don’t use af. Apparently…
Size does matter so you should consider nikon d4 and sigma 200-500 2.8 lol
on the other hand cheap sigma 18-50 f4 or tamron 17-50 f4 for aps-c will be interesting.
Why do people want zoom lenses on a compact system? Primes please!
Told you… Bigger is better and more professional.
Hopefully someone releases a battery grip for my RX1 soon. So I can look even more professional.
Now I need to go, and bang my head against the wall for a while…
I’m never sure what the purpose or effect of these ‘announcements’ is!
There are some specifications, no tests, no prices, no release date, no useful information really.
Would that have any bearing on whether someone would buy a particular camera?
It certainly wouldn’t for me and I think you’d be bonkers if that was the basis of any purchase!!
I find this information very useful. I’m about to pull the trigger on a CV 35/1.2 and a Mitakon 50/0.95. However, if an FE 35/1.4 and 50/1.2 are around the corner I might hold off those purchases.
I saw at leicarumors that a Distagon 35/1.4 ZM will be announced at photokina. This would be a perfect base for rehousing the next 35mm e-mount lens …
yes, thats exactly what the FE mount needs…a 3th 35mm lens 😀 😀
then we have 3 x 35mm, 2x 50/55mm and 2 zooms with a useable range from 35-55mm. Thats why they painted the 70-200 white, because it doesn’t fit to the lens lineup ….
Are you joking? You really think they would release yet more FE lenses at 35mm and 50mm? You also seem to have missed the general consensus that anything faster than f/1.8 is unlikely.
Seriously, totally pointless to wait if that’s what you are waiting on.
But that was the point of my comment, even with these announcements you don’t know if ‘they are around the corner’! It could be 12 months or more (worse if they’re Sigma lenses).
Furthermore, even if they did appear in less than that, what if they are dogs?
What if the bokeh is vile? What if the CA and vignetting is woeful?
To base buying decisions on such information is very odd indeed, in my humble opinion.
It helps keep people interested… For instance I wouldn’t go near it if there wasn’t at least 1 native tele-macro. Not that I see me buying a 1st generation a7.
At the moment there isn’t a native tele-macro. ‘Mr Sony’ himself could stand up and say they plan to release one, but there still wouldn’t be one. Nor are there any guarantees of anything announced ever coming to pass.
Yes, they often do, eventually. However such things can frequently bring torrents of criticism as they don’t live up to the very long-winded hype.
To repeat, I just don’t get it. So they announced something may happen sometime? Startling revelation! If I need something (is there any other reason to buy?) then I will weigh up what exists to buy and hand over my money. Anything else is very silly indeed.
Zeiss said they will announce other focal length for Loxia lenses mid-2015 on their Facebook. The only Loxia for 2014 are the 35 and 50.
Any idea what the fe refresh cycle is likely to be? I’d expect the a7ii to appear any time from mid 2015 onwards (ideally in time for my summer holiday), so this could dovetail nicely.
I’ll take this. It would be nice to know what’s around the corner.
Fingers crossed the 16-35mm is decent.
“Three more FE lenses to be announced” – excitement builds – “but not released or shown at Photokina” – anticlimax –
Two days ago, he claimed that they may announce these along with the QX1.
claim? this a rumors site!
A shame that preorder links can not be made out of thin air. 🙁
Haha!
The admin probably based that off the fake slide used in this rumor. I see the photokina press conference is on the 15th of September at 16:00.
According to the roadmap these 3 are the last for the year. Sony’s sticking to the roadmap which is good to see. I think the 3 will be a 85/1.8, 90/2.8, and 70-300 GII
Hope they release something for crop E otherwise it’s stupid behavior compared to other mirror less brands like fuji, samsung and olympus with panasonic
All FE lenses work for both crop and FF bodies. You are complaining that Sony has a plan that supports both, while the other player only cover the smaller formats?
True. The point is that Fuji has to release lenses like the 56/1.2, as it doesn’t have a full frame body where it will be able to release an 85/1.8.
The fact that Fuji release such lenses probably says quite a bit about whether or not it has plans for a FF system.
It’s already known that the Fuji lenses won’t cover FF, so it really says nothing about their FF plans.
You missed my point. The fact Fuji released a lens such as the 56/1.2 – a lens which acts the same as an 85/1.8 on FF – might suggest they are not interested in FF, at least not yet. How do you convince a Fuji owner to buy an 85/1.8 for a FF camera if they already have the option of a 56/1.2 on APS-C?
Fuji is a company that actually listens to it’s customers and often reacts quickly to their needs. When something can be better they change it if they can—meaning see all the firmware updates that have helped their products immensely.
As much as I am taken with the cameras Sony is coming out with they seem to pop them out and leave them be. Sony and Fuji are the companies that have really shined this year. We don’t know what Fuji will do in the future (yet) but I hope Sony takes a page from Fuji and continues to try and make their superb products even better
If Sony ever redesigned their menus (hire the ricoh people) they’d rule.
PS; Fuji APS-C is makes pretty awesome images, and you have fun making them too.
It does allow Sony to release faster apsc primes though, eg 24/1.8 and 35/1.8.
Oh my… I am waiting for these two for jumping to Sony…
Ok I understand that FF E lenses cover crop and will works fine on it, but there is to cons about it 1- lens size, for FF it’s always larger, 2 – price, compare E 50/1.8 OSS with FF 55/1.8 – price difference is 1:4 or even 1:5, and FF version lack OSS, E 35/1.8 OSS and FF 35/2.8, price difference is less but FF lens is darker and again lack of OSS.
So no doubt sony should support both corp and FF, yes they can support it with universal and cheap FF lenses without G or zeiss logos, that covers FF and Crop and combines relatively bright aperture and optical stabilization.
And yes Fuji does the right lens job, but I don’t like Fuji’s conversion of focal length to FF equivalent, with some lenses they try to mimic FF lenses, but with some doesn’t 18-55, 50-140…
Don’t think sony should play this game and continue to make normal lenses with lenght that used on FF from old times… 24-35-50-85-105-135… but not Fuji’s 23-27-35-56…
I just want to see a picture of the zeiss uwa please show us!!!
Been waiting soooo long.
ZM Distagon 35/1.4?
http://leicarumors.com/2014/09/04/a-new-zeiss-distagon-351-4-zm-lens-leica-m-mount-to-be-announced-for-photokina.aspx/#comments
It will be interesting to check this out while considering the Loxia 35/2 Biogon.
Oh man. If that was to be true…and it would be close to the C/Y version…that might just be the tipping point for me to drop the RX1 if that lens works well on the A7r
If they announce powerzooms, I’m going to have a rage-fit.
24-50 f/3.5-5.6 FE PZ OSS in pancake form. Yes please.
The 3 lenses are:
24mm f/1.8 FE Zeiss
85mm f/1.8 FE Zeiss
135mm f/2 FE Zeiss
Fact or guess?
dream
That’s a guess. All desirable lenses though. A 100mm macro wouldn’t go amiss either.
G branded macro lens is a fact. See yourself the official lens roadmap
I’m aware of that, but the anon guy seems to contradict that and is very specific about what lenses are coming.
Saying that, there are lots of fantasists around here, so there aren’t many people I believe.
The roadmap seems to indicate one Zeiss branded prime, one G branded macro lens and an unspecified lens (my guess neither Zeiss nor G, perhaps a slow tele zoom?).
tired of waiting for sony to get their shit together. sold my FE lenses and will use my a7r as a digital back for my canon lenses. maybe when they actually figure out how to service customers i’ll take another look. meanwhile i’ll be out taking pictures while the fanboys trash this post from their mommies basements.
That 16-35/f4 needs to be way better than the 24-70 for that amount of money. I still feel burned from that one, the 24-70 is totally mediocre.
Confused. If people are so keen on fats lenses and, hence, don’t care that much about weight and size, why don’t just use alpha lenses? Quite some excellent stuff right there. Lose autofocus and it gets even better.
I NEED dat 85mm 1.8!!
I NEED dat 85mm 1.2!!
Seems like Sony is just not producing lenses anymore – everything is Zeiss – overpriced –
I think this is a game plan – Sony must be making a good chunk of money from Zeiss – by the way some say that Sony owns Zeiss is that correct? Just like Panasonic made a kit lens and the rest of the lenses where highly costly Leica lenses – so nice to see 24mm F1.8 and a 85mm F1.8 – and again most all prime lenses – as A7/r/s just to small for fast zooms –
I have read many Zeiss lens reviews lately – and it is a mixed bag – for the cost of each lens one would expect more praise – I get a feeling that the Zeiss brand is hyped up a bit – I know that
lenses that Panasonic makes but are Leica branded are automatically judged as just Panasonic lenses and automatically gets so so reviews – Of course I know there are some very nice Zeiss lenses but that is not to say all are worth the high price tag on some.