It’s really lens rumor time at Photokina! Samyang will launch a new 50mm f/1.2 VDSLR (Cine) lens on August 26. And as usual with their Cine lenses we expect to get both A and E-mount versions of it. There is no info about the price yet but current VDSLR lenses are very cheap and of extreme good optical quality. A full list of these A and E mount Cine lenses can be seen at BHphoto (Click here).
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Awesome lens, way to go Samyang.
Looks interesting, i cant wait to see what it is like
Do their e-mount versions simply have a built-in adapter /spacer to compensate for the flange distance difference?
Well at least someone supports the a-mount even Sony doesn’t much any more.
They probably had a bunch of a-mounts sitting in a dusty box and figured “eh, why not lets clear these out before we can’t sell them anymore”.
Judging by Sony’s inaction on the a99II and the general fed-uppedness with SAR a-mount owners, Samyang better move fast. The rush for the door is about to begin.
Can I use this as a still lens? Any restrictions if use as a still lens?
no. you can’t.
Yah, not suitable, thanks.
i takes you 5 minutes to google what a ‘cine’ lens is. instead you listen to this idiot – your fault…
No problem with manual focusing, but I’ll rather wait for the still version with proper click stop, I’m a photographer. Yes, I’ve already google, thanks anyway.
Also I don’t feel comfortable with the external metal gear focusing and aperture control.
You have to learn to work outside of your comfort zone.
The comment was a feeble attempt at humor by nwimu, but as usual he just sounds like an idiot.
of course you can use these type of lenses for still images. for some people full manual controls might be a restriction. you also have to get used to a smooth ‘de-clicked’ aperture ring.
Don’t have to necessarily use the lens in full manual, I’ve found setting the camera to aperture priority letting the camera select the shutter speed and selecting desired aperture on the lens works well for most situations.
If past is prologue, Samyang will likely release two versions. The Cine version and the still camera version, differences being the de-clicked aperture ring with gear teeth for the cine lens and normal detented aperture ring for the still version.
Same lens in A and E means it is going to be unnecessary big in E.
At least Samyang is doing something right.
A very small compromise that will save you a lot of money.
Well now that E has FF and APS-C cameras, I don’t think you will be seeing very many more APS-C only lenses, especially not from 3rd party manufacturers.
Certainly not premium lenses…
The natural optical design of a 50mm lens is sufficient to clear the mirror box of a 35mm DSLR. It would naturally be longer on a mirrorless camera to deal with the shorter registration distance. To make use distance, some form of telephoto style design would be required, making the whole thing more complex and expensive. Also, if you are a third=party lens manufacturer you might wish to standardise the optical design and not produce a special for a subset of the market.
Also, there is another advantage. The light rays will arrive at a narrower range of angle which, especially on FF, is a desirable thing. That’s especially so with such a fast lens with a large diameter aperture.
If it’s a cine lens then it’s a T1.2 one 🙂
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I prefer f2 or f1.8 but compact.
There’re a f/1.8 and f/1.4 lenses by Sony already. It’s the f/1.2 that makes it interesting.
This is the only 50mm f1.2 lens for A-mount. I used to own a M42 Tomioka Yashinon 55mm f1.2 but sold it due to the IQ, the next option is to convert the Contax zeiss 100 Jahre 55mm f1.2 to A-mount, but not feasible due to the price of the lens.
I see Canon SSC 55 mm f/1.2’s and Rokkor 58 mm f/1.2’s on sale for A-Mount on local forums
Due to the flange focal distance these lenses won’t focus to infinity on A-mount.
These lenses will not achieve infinity focus on A-mount.
I have a Rokkor MC 58/1.4, that achieves infinity focus on A mount.
Converting one is not hard, but those small screws do break easily.
Guys who converted those to A-Mount claim eveything works.
Seems to be conflicting information. Does this mean there will only be a cine lens, or will there also be a standard photo version as well?
Thanks!
Its pretty much all the same just slighty different build. The optics are pretty much the same.
There are already faster manual 50’s for the E-mount…
The Samyang will likely have a significant cost advantage.
Will there be multiple lenses in the announcement? Because it says “Your dream lensES ARE coming”
Why not make a unique lens? There are plenty of 50mm 1.2’s out there already. 24mm f1.2 would be great
You know, I shot a canon 6D today. Not bad at all. Very light and extremely quite- more than acceptable and quite a bargain. I’m convinced that if you want a solid DSLR expereince you’re not shooting sony. I also don’t think Sony is putting much effort into capturing the semi-pro or pro level markets for DSLR’s. Sure, the canon and nikon’s might be behind in some areas- but they make solid DSLR products that are pretty damn refined. I mean, that shutter was just as quite as my sony A77 and far more refined than the A900. Come on Sony, give us a cheaper sub 2k DSLR. Fancy EVF’s and tilt screens aren’t enticing enough- in fact, it’s not even necessary.
I agree most of what you write! I love my 5DMk3 but still Sony A7r for short lenses is even better. Have you tried it seriously?
I’m just saying, here I’m fighting to just have a decent full frame DSLR. I was using the A900 and I found the 6D to blow it away. It’s quite, cheap and light as heck. I’m sort of tired of playing around with sony- although I love the lenses. If they don’t drop the price on the A99 I’m now ready to leave. Zeiss has the lenses I want in canon mount and I’ll just have to suck it up. All this waiting and I could have had what I want in Canon a few years ago. I have not tried the A7R…I want to but my local camera shop doesn’t have it. I just feel like if I’m going to use DSLR lenses than I want a DSLR. This month will decide my fate- but Sony is looking like more of a distant option for me- which sucks. I’ve been using them for over a decade.
I tried the A7R, im not to impressed. Im trying the A7S next week when my retailer will get it again. Im too stocked about the low light. However, the ergonomics overall are quite crappy compared to dslr cameras. For me, thats the biggest downer on sonys a7-series – ergonomics.
Yep…for like M43 I don’t care. For my full frame stuff- I’ll take the chunky grip and DSLR layout any day. It’s just the way it is, although I applaud Sony for trying. Plus, I know if I go A7R I’ll sell my lenses. It doesn’t make sense to take my lenses I’ve paid thousands for and gimp them out with an adaptor.
Just my 5 cents – I’d wait for the announcement of the A99-II. Maybe up to New Year. If we jump ship, and they finally release the A99-II, and it’s amazing, it’d suck a big one.
That’s what I’m afraid of. 27 more days until Photokina. Can’t come soon enough.
Canon has been making dslr cameras for a lot longer than Sony, but Sony is improving quickly. As for EVF, these are the future and Sony moved in this direction first. No doubt that within 10 years, the majority of SLR-style cameras will have WYSIWYG electronic viewfinders. Using a camera with an OVF will be akin to using a film camera now.
Sony has made it clear that this is their present and future. If you are holding out hope for a new alpha camera with an OVF, you will be waiting indefinitely.
No, I’m completely fine with the EVF. I could care less either way. I like the tilt screens on the Sony’s as well. My problem is pricing and we should have a few FF options in alpha mount. The response speed of the dials on the A99 are slow, the AF points are all clustered, the whole mirror thing (which again, not a big deal). But, for every step forward I feel like Sony takes a step back. They force you to adopt tech they don’t fully flesh out. After that, they take forever to get more products out. Just my opinion.
I mostly agree. My problem isn’t the camera body pricing ( unlike the lens pricing) it is what Sony gave consumers at the price point for the 1st gen SLT cameras – particularly the a99. Sony cheaped out on the AF module ( most egregiously), the buffer/cache and the processor despite the premium price of the body. Based on the pricing of the a77-2 versus the original and the improvements brought to it (although the lack of xavc codec is glaring) I hope that Sony has learned from the past. I won’t mind paying nearly 3k for the a99 successor so long as they use a full frame AF module, significantly improve processing/buffer, and internal 10-bit 4k.
There should be a second full frame option. The a7 tiers is ideal – same body and manufacturing to reduce costs with different sensor options. I think it would be wise for the a-mount line to have two body builds – one aps-c and one full frame and simply do different sensors/internals.
It may be that the original
A99 will sell alongside the a99-2 for a while at half the price and then get replaced by an a88 down the road specc’ed in between the a99 and the sequel.
Yeah, I hear what you’re saying. Most of my friends shoot Canon, and the cameras are refined and responsive, the lens selection is excellent, the image quality is great, and the support is superb. What they lack are the modern conveniences — the things that Sony brings to the table that will be standard in 5-10 years. But that’s the difference between a camera manufacturer and an electronics manufacturer: Sony brings disruptive technology to the table, but doesn’t have the attention span to support it. And when they decide to do something different, everyone is left wondering if Sony will ever get back to supporting the system they’ve bought into. Sony is used to cranking out next year’s gadget without a thought to creating a system and supporting legacy devices. It’s foreign to them. And while they ARE making some effort, it just never seems enough when compared to Canikon.
Canon, on the other hand, is so strongly rooted in supporting their systems and legacy that they don’t want to risk being too disruptive. And when they do attempt something new, they do it in a really half-assed way (*cough* EOS-M *cough*) and in so doing ensure its failure. They don’t innovate, they iterate. And that is excellent for stability, but bad for keeping up with technology.
This is why I miss Minolta. Of all the manufacturers, I think they were the ones who best walked the line between disruptive tech and system creation. They weren’t perfect by any means — professional support was as non-existent as Sony’s — but they understood the value of incorporating new tech while still creating a solid system of lenses and accessories.
I think the only reason I can afford to keep shooting Sony/Minolta is the fact that I don’t make my living from it. If I did, I’d have to think about switching. And if I’m not the only one thinking that way, then it’s no wonder Sony isn’t taking the pro market by storm.
This – “What they lack are the modern conveniences”. I’ve pretty much sold all my Sony and switched to Nikon. But I still have the A77 for one purpose. Macros. Focus tweaking IS that modern convenience for me. Everything else I can live without and trade for a more solid system.