Lately a couple of “anonymous” sources got the info that Sony will launch more A-mount cameras the second half of this year. Two of these sources said they will be called “A88” and “A99II“. One is a new low-end FF and one is a high-end FF.
I have yet not received any confirmation via trusted sources so don’t get too excited for now. One of the sources also said that unlike the A77II that have been announced now the new A88 and A99II are rumored to represent a major technological advancement. As usual I hope trusted sources will read this and hopefully confirm the rumors is correct! Would be an amazing news!
The current only Sony FF A-mount camera is the Sony A99 which will become exactly two years old at the Photokina in September. Right in time to get a successor don’t you think? Well, comment this post with your features wish list and I will do a poll out of it to see what SAR readers want from Sony!
And do not forget: RX100MIII will be announced this week on May 15. And I hope Sony will announce the final A7s pricing too! Stay tuned on SAR!
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This is interesting – I was told at The Photography Show (by a Sony rep) that there is no a99 replacement scheduled for this year – not on any road map he has seen. Everything here at the moment is just a rumor & I am not holding my breath. I am tempted to wait a bit longer though – I was going to buy an a99.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they had an announcement of “something” at Photokina though.
I’ve asked before, what can be removed from the A99 to make an A88? The A850 had a smaller viewfinder and less fps. I doubt this rumour, it is wishful thinking I reckon.
At a guess, either drop a 24mp drop sensor into the a77ii body or more likely port the a77ii’s af system and buffer to the a99 (minus af-d and possibly an sd card slot). Given that it’s mostly existing tech, the R&D costs should be significantly less than developing a lower spec ff from scratch.
Any hint as to what the major technilogical advnce is, stacked sensor???
Major technological advances…minor improvements, all hype…when has it ever been otherwise.
Probably same sensors as a7 series.
Double the amount of pixels as a7s, half the sensitivety. Make one camera completely focused on Photography, and the other towards Video + Photography.
+1 !!!
Still imaging should be considered as a priority area. One camera for photography and others for 4K, 8K etc.
Finally some real rumors at SAR! Well done, admin! Thanks for not waiting until you got confirmation from “trusted sources”.
A88 – Reworked A99 for Minimum Costs to compete with D610 & 6D but priced lower. Expect the same 24MP sensor with maybe the original A77 Autofocus system and low FPS Burst Rate.
A99II – The 36MP or the new 12MP Sensor with very high burst rate 12fps? Also a new AF Module maybe from the A77II or another one even more advanced and tweaked for FF sensor (Better coverage).
Yes. I don’t believe in miracles. But the above would be good enough updates to me… Just going by the model numbers, I don’t expect a generational leap foreword.
You’re going to p1ss a lot of A99 users off if you release a cheaper A88 with pretty much the same specs as their A99. 🙂 It would make you wonder why the A99 was so expensive if it could be the same price as the D610.
That is exactly what canon did to the 5D with the 6D…
The 5D has a better AF module than the 6D.
The 5D was pretty terrible AF-wise, so the 6D is worse?
I think you missed the point…oh well.
By the time the a88 is launched the a99ii will already be on the scene, so the a99i will be old hat anyway.
Because, time has passed.
After 18 months the A99 is still significantly more than the new D610.
Cause it’s still significantly better. I’ve used the D610, and the A99 is light years better.
You are missing the point. Re-read the context of the comments.
“You’re going to p1ss a lot of A99 users off if you release a cheaper A88…”
Yes, they probably will, but why should Sony care? Like with A850. They have not minded too much about present customers in the past, so why should they start? More important will be to have competitive products to competitive price that more people will buy instead of competitors offers.
It would be a bad business strategy to hold back new competitive products because of cencerns for existing customers.
I pray everyday for more AF points in the A99 mark 2 and a faster AF. I hate that on my A99…
And please Sony, keep GPS receiver inside 😉
But it has over a hundred AF points! 😉
This rumor has been written lots in the comments here lately that I have noticed catching up after my holiday. I think its wishful thinking.
Just need to get this in – for the naysayers. A-MOUNT is DEAD! or is it e-mount or fe-mount.
Cause they’re normally the jealous troll type who can’t afford one. I’m buying the A99II for sure.
I would be very interested – if this rumor turns out to be true.
Don’t do this to me Andrea – I’ve just pro-ordered the a77ii lol
I’ll buy it off you at a knock-down price!
Sony had the golden opportunity of sticking a FF sensor into the A77 and selling it for peanuts. Instead Nikon grabbed the headlines with the D600. Sony will never learn.
absolutely true…
“Sony had the golden opportunity of sticking a FF sensor into the A77”
It’s called the A99.
or is this just a complaint about pricing.
It’s a complaint about a lack of market research and understanding.
Best news of this year!
Great news. A99-II is coming for sure, that much you can get from the presentation of A77-II.
Hope they roll out some lenses as well, like the weather-sealed 24-70.
A-Mount is the future!
I agree 100% the 2470 is in need of an update, that should include weather sealing, nano coatings, a couple of FLD elements and the SSM II system.
Is it possible to lighten it using magnesium parts like this A77, A99 body?
I’d pay extra for internal zooming – no more zoom creep and internal zooms provide smoother zoom movement for AF. A little less distortion at 24-28mm would be nice too.
If there is a major technological advancement, then I very much doubt Sony will call it the A99II. Mark II suggests incremental improvement, not a whole new game changing advancement.
Barry is late today with claims of orgasmic sensors.
Multiple (stacked) orgasmic sensors, mind you.
Sensor on sensor action? That’s definitely nsfw
A-mount is dead!
Good, loads of excellent cheap glass for me then!
Cheap glass for me to take pictures of my cat.
You don’t want to be doing that in the dark though, you can’t take pictures of cats in the dark with Sony, you need a Nikon D40 like Ken Rockwell.
Ah but if I used a a7s? Pictures through the lens cap with high ISO!!
LOL… Or maybe those rebels he speaks of…
whish list:
– 4k video, or at least no line skipping FullHD video 100+ mbit/s
– touch screen
– widely spread AF points on the screen
– buffer for 40+ raw frames
Wishlist:
– 24-36 MP
– Very fast AF + AF limiter
– Broad AF Field
– better noise performance than before
– 4k record to SD cards
– Strong Video Codec (Prores, DnXHD)
– Flat Color Profiles
Broad AF field is key.
I’m actually quite happy with AF on my A65. What I don’t like about A99 is not AF speed/accuracy, but that all AF points are in the centre.
Unfortunately, this may be the case again, if they use A77-II’s AF on A99-II, instead of developing a dedicated FF AF module.
+1 !
– Very fast AF + AF limiter
– 5 Axes Stabilizer
– Codec XAVC (no S) 10bits – 4:2:2 (Internal 1080P Only) & 4K 4:2:0 – 8bits (internal)
– Less Moiré, Rolling Shutter
– 12MP Sensor (s version like A7s)
– S-Log
i would like a99 mirroles A-mount . . .
You already have it. Any E-mount with an adapter.
It’ be a slow as Sh!t
adapter still got mirror
LA-EA3.
Perhaps he meant to say “buy an A7″…
It’d be a huge waste of money, just buy a A88 and a 2470, 70200
Cause the A7 is a slow piece of junk, designed for people who don’t take pictures of moving subjects.
Indeed, we all know the A99 is a speed demon, with its peerless AF system and industry leading FPS.
The A99 is twice the camera (6fps vs 2.5), and the updated version may be faster. There is a good chance the A99II will be as fast as the A77II
Pluck a random specification out of thin-air and use it to calculate the value of the camera. Good work.
In that case, I guess the 36mp A7R must be 50% more camera than the A99.
Like your sarcasm. 🙂
It is not. And neither is the A99 better than the A7 nor the A7 better than the A99 in general. as usal it depends on the needs man has.
And I would like to know the percentage of A99 owners, who do often need more than its 6FPS.
I am owning my A99 since two years/15k releases. And I have had maybe 4 or 5 times where I desired more FPS. However I had much more cases where I’d have been happy to have more resolution.
So I guess we will likely have two fractions – the ones shouting for 12-15 FPS, and the ones (like I do) shouting for 36MP.
So what’s it gonna be?
🙂
That’s what Canon and Nikon guys say about Sony DSLRs.
Do You think it’s easy to put a sony 70-200 in a sony a7?
Yep – line up the dots, turn clockwise until it clicks.
clockwise–do you mount lenses with the camera and lens facing yourself?
I mount them with the sensor and mount facedown.
Imagine the mount as a clock face, then mounting could only ever be described as clockwise. I don’t look at the back of a clock and say the clock’s hands are moving anti-clockwise.
Yes, but I don’t look at a lens mount and call it a clock. I’d call the motion you describe anticlockwise myself, but we’re entitled to our own metaphorical languages.
“but we’re entitled to our own metaphorical languages.”
Yet you are the one that started it!
Yes why wouldn’t it be? If you want a mirrorless A-mount with crappy AF performance you can have it right NOW. It is very simple to do, mount your A-mount lens onto the A7 via the LA-EA3.
The rest of us A-mount users want fast AF and for that you need a mirror and DEDICATED PHASE DETECT MODULE, hence why the A99 and new A77II are SLT.
You guys make me laugh thinking that you can just remove the mirror and have A-mount lenses focusing as fast as E-mount lenses designed to do so on the A6000. If it was that easy, why haven’t Sony done it!?
Looks like Sony’s going to drive headlong into the 82% of the market that actually matters. If they play their card right they have a good chance of taking market share at the high end where the real money is.
Like always the A-Mount (Alpha Pro) remains the superior option for those who can afford one.
The e-trolls are looking dumber everyday. New full frames, being readied for launch just after the world’s most advanced APS-C cameras is launched. Sony offering Sony Pro for the A-Mount is multiple regions this year.
Maybe we should start a support group for them, “The Alpha World Support Group” cause “A-Mount Denial is simply pathetic”
What’s with all this conspicuous “for those who can afford one” guff?
Many who wanted an A99 claimed they were too expensive!
I think the term is…”delusional elitism”…
Definitely no way I can afford an a99. At a push, I’d stretch to about £1500 for an a88…
If you look around you will find the A99 for £1500 or less… Just sayin’
Seriously, if you can’t afford to buy the right tools for the job, then maybe it’s time for change in occupation.
Or time to take out a business line of credit, like the rest of us
The A99 is only $2149.99. If that’s expensive than you’re really in dire straits.
Yup, they’ll get 00001% of that 82% 😀
Even a .5% increase would be huge victory.
Wishlist:
Sony marketing department that isn’t clueless
Sony management that are photographers
Sony testers that are photographers not bloggers or videographers
Sony executives that don’t think they are a premium brand in the dSLR market
Sony Japan realising that NEX doesn’t sell as well in the rest of the World
Yeah I have to agree with points 1 and 3 for sure…It is hardly rocket science stuff.
How many AlphaGuys are there?
here one ^^
Lots over at Dyxum.com
2 people typing so far.
I guess most of the folks here are Alpha guys. 🙂
Yes! This is definitely a A-Mount only discussion.
Yes ! Yes! Yes!
Good rumor, if there’s truth to it, I’d personally be happy with incremental upgrades to A99, just like A77M2 I’ve pre-ordered. These cameras pack so much goodness I continue to be amazed about the constant complaints and negativity… Current A99 can use faster AF and larger AF area, wi-fi would be cool, and maybe native tethering, and further improved noise/high ISO management. Few other small niggles here and there like intervalometers, etc. and it’s more than a competent and a complete package even as is. I’d say Sony’s due to upgrade its batteries but as can be seen from A77M2 that’s not happening just yet. Either way, great cameras, bring it on and take my money.
Your right, I use a A77, A99 for all of my daily needs, and an updated A99 would definitely be spot on this year.
Plus Sony Pro is supposed to be launching this year in North America for the A-Mount too.
I am currently working with an A99 with most G and ZA lenses and for my needs I am more or less absolute fine with.
I would go for a successor if it would bring higher resolution and larger AF area.
WiFi would be nice to have. Other needs I have would be possible via FW.
And if I may dream – why not bringing an A99R (36MP) and an A99S (12MP high ISO).
There I would definetely go for both. 🙂
Great news in the A-Mount FF class.
But what about customer support and after sales service? The Steady-Shot of my A57 is broken (it behaves like the gain of movement is too high, which causes blurred pictures above 1/250) and I contacted Sony. They sent me a freeway post ticket to a support service called Herbert Geissler in Germany. Now I know that I only got a 1 year warranty, because the dealer wasn´t an official Sony dealer and I payed 164,22€ for NOTHING…. Why? After the 2. “repair” the problem is still there. But after contacting Sony again for some help and another repair service they said something like “It´s your problem without warranty”. I was really looking forward to spend about 6000€ for upgrading to Sony FF…..
Did anyone make the same experience with H. Geissler and Sony?
Sony Pro is launching in multiple regions this year, so you can receive the service you need. The fees are cheaper than Canon’s support program.
Will Sony Pro be launched in Europe? Maybe announced at Photokina?
It gotta be one of their top priorities. A99II, and Sony Pro are my top priorities this year.
Well I went into a large photography shop recently & one of the reps there is aware of SAR & believes that Sony actually feeds info to SAR.
So if you are listening Sony – we would like to see this rumor fulfilled, bring us new a-mount FF cameras please! This IS a top priority this year.
If Sony feeds information to SAR then where were the A77II rumours?
When the guy mentioned that Sony fed info to SAR – I immediately thought the same thing. I believe Sony might keep an eye on what is being said on SAR but that’s about it. I do hope they are because a lot of people are waiting for FF a-mount cameras. The only one we have is the a99 and I think it does need a bit of a refresh.
Geissler is near my home village.
I have had two cases to handle with them. Both oow cases, and both ok.
On my 2470ZA the AF button went loose. It took them 3wd for repair.
Second case was an older camocorder with tape drive, here the rewind function was defective. Took them 6wd for repair.
In both cases check-in and check-out was very good, and the repair quality was also very good. (defect solved, and no scratch or damage or anything.
The 2470ZA is my only lens without pro warranty. My special retailer offers an upgrade for about 7,5% of the purchase price. (accidential damage, water ingress, etc.)
I really hope for reasonably priced A88 with good AF. Would be a instant buy for me.
Define reasonably cost?
Under 1800 €
You can definitely afford a day one A99II
Hopefully more confirmed rumors before Photokina. New a99 would be good 😉
Please give me fully electronic shutter, alowing much faster flash sync and quieter shutter sound. Then this will be the perfect wedding camera!
Adolf 88?
Of course making these cameras mirrorless would be the most exciting.
Then give then AF performance equal to or better than the A6000.
High ISO performance equal to or better than the A7s
Here’s my “real wish” though: For the A88, give it all the still photo functionality of the higher model but remove all video capability and sell it for $1000 less than the A99ii! Any takers? 🙂
“Then give then AF performance equal to or better than the A6000.”
Easier said that done with A-mount lenses.
I’d rather have the AF performance, of the A77II, and the IQ performance of the D800’s 36mp sensor.
It would cost more to remove video. What do you think feeds the EVF and LCD?
Wish list (pretty much a combination of A77II, A7s and A6000 advancements):
– not so much more points than the A77II, but greater frame coverage (say, in the 60-80% range?), alongside updated AF-D coverage (90-95%)
– 4K internal recording, though I’m guessing it’ll still be external through HDMI
– As it’s their flagship, I expect A7s-like ISO and noise performance in the A99II. Else, hopeful thinking: pixelwise binning for multiple exposure noise reduction in RAW (not happening)
– Electronic second curtain shutter – as they have the technology already, they should use it
– Please keep the GPS from the current generation!
Ps. Anyone else a fan of the orange-on-black theme? I know it’s silly to nitpick about colours, but especially with the A77II, I feel like they’re drifting away to a more… black-on-black motif? *shrugs* ultimately, no big deal either way.
Orange feels a bit like a Sony Alpha signature.
Canon and Nikon lenses have a hint of red right ?
I think Canon is red and Nikon is.. gold? Or at least it’s trying to be, anyways. I just feel at home with the orange of Alpha, but from the pictures, they’ve removed every trace of it on the A77II, and it saddens me a bit. Just a bit, though, as a good quality camera is still a good quality camera regardless.
Ditto Keep the onboard GPS, the A99 is an excellent travel photog camera
I want a backup on the second memory card was not only in a99II but in the budget a88 too.
Wish list.
1. Sony goes to 3-4 year development cycle on upper end camera bodies.
2. Sony doesn’t rush any ANY product to market. Ever
3. Sony takes a hard look at the lens lineup, develops best in market kit lenses / standard zooms (again, with a longer body development cycle, R&D costs should be flat or down) and delivers on a real roadmap that will be exciting for photographers
4. Sony people stop killing the brand by demanding new bodies every 24 months (most of whom will not end up buying them)
5. Sony figures out their distributor and trade relationships in a hurry
LOL@4 so true! The amount of b1tching that goes on about a particular model from people that have never held one let alone used one!
I agree with this, good news is Sony has been doing this on there A9/A8/A7 range of camera’s for the last few releases but the latest round has been a little sooner than in the past.. I hope they don’t make this a habit and go back to the 3-4 year cycle and offer bigger ‘leaps’ on releases and offer better support/updates/firmware with these higher end camera’s…
a99 II is a day one purchase for me.
I wish for a D4S or D1X like A99II at current pricing of A99. That will be very cool:)
Major technological advancement is the same hype for every new siny camera and is rarely true.
A99II probably a99 with bionz x processor and possibly a new mirror.
I think they may bypass tge rumored 20% mirror in favor of the new center weighted mirror..otherwise same old mirror.
Sensor probably same 36mp sensor from a99r.
No what low end will be..mayby another 24mp sensor…would be nice if a7s sensor.
Yep, I got burned by the a77II hype on SAR. That didn’t exactly end well. ;^)
Any tech going into a 2014/2015 a88/a99 is on the table already. The only possible curve ball is internal 4k. We know Sony engineering tried to pull it off with the FEs and ran into heat issues. Can they dissipate it enough in a larger body or otherwise fix the problem in ILCA? 4k is a huge Sony priority and sooner or later they need deliver more content creation tools into consumer hands.
Great news! Looks like it is time for FF A-mount: A6000(E) – A7+A7R+A7S(E) – A77II(A) – A88/A99II (A)
Franco posted some interesting stacked sensor info and predicted a differrent development time than I have been talking about.
Interesting reading on yesterdays Hasselblad posting.
Barry, you have been so unmercifully trolled by sock puppets on SAR for so long why would you accept the bait?
His basement is a lonely place.
Franco posted some interesting stacked sensor info so at the very least he did hos homework. I actually wanted to hear what he was saying becausehe had good data.
As to his timetable info..I dont actually believe anyone can accurately say how long it will take to resolve problems that have not yet been resolved much less say it will take till 2018.
Most trolls post senseless insults with no real information or opinions. This discussion was at a much higher level than that.
If my other trolls posted this level of comment we would all be better off.
“Higher level” piss-taking is still piss-taking. In fact, it’s probably worse, because you took the bait hook, line and sinker and went with it for so long. Genuinely, it was sad to watch.
People have been asking for Admin to start posting low-level rumors so they can have fun shifting into wish list frenzy mode and he’s delivered. ;^)
An a88/a99II has been floating around the rumor mill for a long time. Since most of the Sony development efforts are being pumped into FEs, “major technological advancement” is likely referring to a port of the a7R’s outstanding sensor tech to an a99II. A ‘rim shot’ might be Sony being able to leverage the larger a-mount bodies to dissipate heat enough to launch an ILC with internal 4k.
Naturally, modern tech like Wi-Fi and NFC will be added. Hopefully, they won’t strip out GPS like they did with the a77II since it’s a cheap, compact, ubiquitous technology found in cellphones. Sony has been sweating AF/FPS lately so I’d expect real improvement here.
Depending how much price separation they want between and a88/a99II depends on how much they water down the a88 spec sheet. An 24MP sensor like the a7 is a given. I’d expect a smaller buffer, maybe a couple FPS shaved off. If they really want a budget entry-level FF, an a88 wouldn’t be weather sealed and would use more plastic in the body. You’d be looking at $1,600-$1,800 for an a88 and $2,600-$2,800 for an a99II.
An a99II with those specs will cause some sleepless nights with Canikon execs. ;^)
I sort of hope Sony doesn’t come out with an a99II with said specs. I’d be sorely tempted to buy one and I don’t need to be spending that kind of money on a hobby. ;^)
1) Way larger AF point coverage, with cross type sensors as far as possible from the center. If they use A77II AF sensor, it would be better by current A99, but still, too small for some use cases;
2) Less viewfinder blackout when shooting higher fps. Try to shoot fashion shows (or sports) for 5 hours straight, if you think this is a minor annoyance. A77II seems to be quite an improvement compared to original A77, hope this carries over to A99II too;
3) 24Mpix should be enough for most uses, and if speed (as i fps, viewfinder blackout, af) has to be sacrificed to increase resolution – stick with 24! There is A7r for high resolution landscapes and studio work. Or just make identical bodies with shared everything except different resolution sensors, like the A7 triplets.
I hope Sony doesn’t use an APS-C AF system in the II as they did in the 1st a99. The AF coverage area is woeful. They also cheaped out on the buffer size & speed.
If Sony wants to claim something is a flagship and charge for it then they should stop cutting corners. They can do that on the a88.
An a99s variant with internal 4k & better codec would be successful.
ehhhh
How about no A99s. If it’s the flagship model, 4k and a better codec should be included. The a88 should be limited to 1080p AVCHD.
The a99s variant would allow for full pixel readout (due to the 12mp sensor). This is not possible with a 24 or 36+ mp sensor. Separate cameras are needed for different specializations.
They should just make a new NEX-VG900 and no a99s.Why have an a99s? What difference, besides the mount, would it have from the a7s?
As I said in my original post – internal 4k recording.
A mount users now are happy till jaw dropped down LoL… good news comes!
Admin, do you know these are SLT or non-SLT..? TQ
You will not get rid of the mirror any time soon for A-mount lenses. Ain’t gonna happen if you want fast AF.
Why do you think the A77II is still SLT?
then i can guess if it SLT then with mirror lock up, else sony will be fail big time
The mirror can not be locked up with a lens attached. If 1/3 stop of light is THAT important then get a mirrorless and mount your lenses on it or get a CaNikon dSLR.
He’s obviously a very confused individual. Sony, just invested in a new dedicated AF system for a reason. That mirror gives the SLT the burst rate, and AF speed the mirror-less crowd will never get a chance to enjoy.
Please keep the GPS with future release camera’s and also consider an A77mII WITH GPS added as well if possible as I do like having both APSC + FF camera’s…
Pro level A mount, get rid of the mirror all together, I like the idea of using other lenses.
and full remote capability from tablet
Sure get rid of the mirror if you only need AF for taking pictures of statues!
Getting rid of the mirror wouldn’t help adapting other lenses. To do that you need shorter flange distance. That’s why they came up with e-mount.
Where is high-end APS-C camera?
Maybe A77II?
Well my A77 is my camera bag at the moment.
APS-C is dead
What do you expect a high-end APS-C ?
A77M2 is at the same class with 70D and D7100
battery life:
Nikon D7100 – 950
Canon 70D – 920
Sony A77ii – 480 🙂
480 shoots per battery -> this is high-end camera according to sony :)))
You are really grasping at straws if you think that the battery life is a measure of a high-end camera while ignoring all the positive features it brings.
Boo-hoo, you have to spent 30 seconds swapping a battery…well back in the day I had to change film after 24 shots, oh the horror, how did I cope??
Get a grip (pun intended).
30 seconds? Maybe if you stop for a nap… Camera off, battery out, new battery in. 15 seconds tops. My nex 3 on the other hand…
I have assumed it would take him 15 seconds to find the catch since he never has to change the battery on his D7100/70D.
Wow, that is very funny/pathetic
The rest of the world looks towards IQ, AF, and ISO performance, and your crying about carrying a couple of spare batteries
he really knows how to read a brochure..
hay mark,.. lets have sport photo session with utilizing af tracking of your d7100 and 70d. Although i dont have a77ii yet, but im sure i have to take 2 battery with me but full of usefull “in focus” picture, while you have to sit there trying to shoot more to drain your battery out.
happy hunting..
ive used 70d its great in video af, but not as great as slt
You will NEVER see a “higher end” APS-C camera over the A77II from Sony.
What is wrong with you?
Apparently another individual that was dropped on his head at birth.
Considering the A77II is hands down the best featured and highest quality APS-C camera ever made from by any brand, I cant imagine why you greedy d1ckheads are demanding more.
How about you take some photography lessons? The A77II has more than enough capability as to not limit virtually all photographers worldwide. If THAT camera dont work for you, take a look in the mirror, pal.
The A77II is a Professional APS-C camera system, anyone who would disagrees is an utter fool.
It certainly out classes anything people claimed was “professional” three of four years ago.
I’ve employed the A77 (original) in a professional setting (along side the A850, and A99) on multiple of occasions with the 24mm, 50mm Zeiss, 1650 SSM, and the 70200G2.
The 24mm is by far my favourite lens to use on this camera
The original is an exceptionally capable camera that I’ve come to depend on it, and I will most certainly but the new model when it arrives.
1) larger AF area, please please not spread around the center as A99
2) better lo-light focusing (A99 not a star in this department at all)
3) high ISO improvements (@ ISO 6400, I get like 1:1 ration between usable and not-so-usable shots, would be nice to feel completely safe at 6400)
Hmm ..
– 12 fps with focus tracking
that’s it
+1 on that. The effekt is very useful for others than macro photographers too.
repackaged A7 and A7r?
I need a A-mount but my trip is in September. So, stick to A7R and maybe, a FE24-70. So, if this is coming, I might get it during my birthday. 😛
Hey, thanks for telling us this, Justin. It’s so fascinating!! What else is happening in your life that we don’t care about?
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Good for you. Here’s a golf clap for you pitiful life.
I certainly hope this rumor is true… but considering how long the A77ii took, I’m not optimistic.
The big hope would be…. With the A7/7r being only 1 year old by the fall, with the A7s due for a summer release?…… The A99ii/A88 could be the premium fall/winter products for this year. None of the other “flagship” products will really be due for an upgrade.
A88 should be a slightly cheapened version of the current A99. Really, it should be a re-badged A99, and add in wifi and a few other 2014 upgrades.
A99ii — At a minimum, use the new A77 AF module, but prefer a new AF module specifically made for FF. Wifi, etc, without removing the GPS. Much bigger faster buffer. Dual processors so it can shoot 6 fps WITHOUT the slideshow effect. And mirror lockup mode for high ISO/low light.
I’m pretty much in totally agreement with you. I really can’t stand my a99s processing speed, and I seriously hope they work on the firmware and button responsiveness.
I hope they slap a massive processor upgrade. Sony’s current camera are pretty dates. Even $99.99 smart phones have far more processing power.
Sony’s current cameras are being praised for their processing speed. You are talking about the generation from 18 months ago like the A99 and A77.
Correct!!!
More speed please:)
Have you not been paying attention to recent cameras? The processors are more than capapble. They outdo even Canikon processors.
Not talked about yet – just a minor thing, but I want it:
The Focus Help Light that is missing at the A77II should not be missed by the A88/A99II
Since there is no pop up flash on the a99, they can not eliminate it. Although I’d take a pop-up flash for strobe triggering over the lamp assist if given the choice.
Too good to be true.
That’s funny. I remember people saying the Sony A100 was too good to be true. It would “never happen”. And the A700, and the A900, and the A77 and the A99, and the A7, and the RX1, and the RX10.
I guess these people were all right, too, huh? Too good to be true. LOL.
Recycled a7R for sure…but better equiped. Will we see a recycled A7S?
I think that depends on how well the a7S sells. Based upon how well the a7/a7R is selling Sony is safe with the marginal cost of transferring their tech to a slightly updated a99 body. The a7S is new ground for Sony. If it takes off they’d be smart to come out with a a99-2S to spread out the development costs for the new low rez sensor.
I want them NOT to remove the gps!
I would like to see a new DSLR from Sony. I guess for a lot of people it’s either mirrorless or DSLR. SLT is still not very well accepted. And I can see why.
– A new AF Module: Fastest in DSLR class, with better screen coverage – take A77, but more points around the rule of thirds crosspoints and just as good tracking ability. Must be better than 5d3, thus some double-cross points needed. Plus best lowlight AF in DSLR class.
– New Mirror with minimum light loss.
– Better EVF, still too much aliasing on A7 (even on “high quality” setting).
– ultimate dream-wish: included OVF and mirror-reflex to change between EVF and OVF
SLT is very well accepted by the people who actually use it. People moaning about it on forums aren’t representative of SLT users, they are just LOUD.
Precisely – even the reviewers are coming around. It has its moments but I wouldn’t go back to an apsc of again.
Who’s talkin’ APSC?
Agree. Reviewers are beyond the love/hate feelings that EVFs generated when the SLT was first introduced. Now the a77ii was just judged as a camera.
Of course it’s accepted by the users… that’s a pleonasm.
antidisestablishmentarianism
See I can use pointless words that make me sound an elitist tw@t too.
If it wasnt accepted by us, we’d move on to something else. Your foolish opinion that SLT isn’t up to the task is just that, YOUR opinion.
No need to get personal and aggressive. I’m just saying that SLT is not very well accepted by a lot of users. And that is a fact. Of course a lot of users enjoy it, and that’s absolutely great. I’m not saying it’s bad or anything, but I can see some disadvantages, too. Just stay open-minded, that’s all.
“I’m just saying that SLT is not very well accepted by a lot of users.”
It is a useless fact, it’s like a Canon user saying that Sony is not very well accepted by a lot of users. Pointless.
It is a “fact” based on YOUR biased attitude. However since the A55 was said by Sony to be a roaring success and the reason the A77 was released with an EVF and then the A99 and now the A77II, it suggests that within the Alpha community SLT has been very well accepted and you are wrong.
I PREFER SLT over flopping vibrating mirror.
I want the GPS back!!!! 😉
At the beginning of this year / end of last year we had rumors of new FF a-mount cameras (possibly 2). Then we had rumors of a new camera with a mount that can take both a / e lenses + it would also have 4K e.g. the “frankencamera” that a lot of people (including me did not like). Then there was going to be no new FF a-mount cameras e.g. the Sony rep at the Photography Show – no replacement for a99 scheduled this year. So I was building up to get the a99. Now this. The joy of rumors.
I do think they will have something for Photokina because Nikon & Canon will – it is the big photography show but will it be a-mount?
Of course.
The A99II isn’t considered a new camera, its a incremental upgrade. That’s the language their (Sony) using these days. So in Sony language the A99 isn’t being replaced, its being updated.
Thats the language Canon uses too. Its the language that the Sony community begged Sony to use for YEARS. Now they’re following suit with a camera naming system that makes SENSE and id1ots like you are still not happy.
Good grief.
I’m actually really happy Numpty. It means that instead years of waiting for product refreshes are over. The Mark System is clearly the better way.
Good, lets shake hands.
My guess is the Frankencamera was actually the a7s. The a7-cameras seem to have spun lots of false rumors about a-mount releases.
I wish for the a99 II to have 32 sensor. Spread out the AF points like the a77II. I will be happy… and buy.
I’m going to buy it regardless. The A850 I’m using as a back up is getting a little long in the tooth.
Unfortunately, your wish may come true in a twisted way. A99 II is likely to have EXACTLY the same AF module as A77-II, as was the case with the first generation; so, all AF points will still be in the middle.
A77-II’s AF is a little wider though.
Sony has invested an ENORMOUS amount of money in SLT technology. It will not go away anytime soon. I think it is safe to say that all future A-mount cameras will be SLT.
It’s not just Sony. Canon will soon be following suit with SLT technology, as they are investing a significant portion of EF-mount research and development money in SLT.
EVF and SLT are here to stay. Long term. If this bothers you, move away from Sony to Canon. Then in 5 years you can move away from Canon to someone else (if there is anyone else not using SLT).
+1
Technology marches on regardless of what we want. You either join the bandwagon or get left confused and dizzied in the dust. Sony “gets it” and will be the leader in digital imaging.
a88 is likely, while a99 II is less likely.
The current A99 is likely getting rebadged as a A88, it’s what they did four years ago when the A850 launched. They’re probably give it some minor updates (AF, CPU, Mirror) a new coat of paint, but nothing too spectacular.
However it’ll probably launch at $1799.99USD, which is pretty spectacular.
That’s not what happened to the A850.
Where are you getting pricing for a camera that was first rumored today?
Troll.
Probably is an educated guess genius (dummy)!!!
Is English or Idiot your first language?
Thanks.
Your most welcome 🙂
Probably is a guess genius!!!
Well A850 is not a rebadge. It’s essentially just came equipped with binned A900 parts. Because of this, the A850 is priced much lower. That’s exactly the point of A88.
The A850, (which I own) and A900 are essentially the same camera, the differences are minor; a single CPU, and 2% less coverage, and a 3fps burst rate vs 5fps.
They have diiferent guts too. I know for a fact. The shutter is different, and so are frame components. I own both too. And Ive repaired both.
Still not enough to justify the price gap between the two.
Well I don’t know what the heck you two are arguing about. Can you both nicely stop?
I bought the A850 for $1999.99 at the Sony Store in Toronto, when the A900 was $800.00 more.
You can install the firmware of the A900 in the A850 without any problem.
Somebody did it and (apparently) it works just great.
This is an URBAN LEGEND! They had their A850 serviced, and the Sony techs put a A900 main circuit board in the camera, and A900 firmware.
You CANNOT install A900 firmware on an A850.
Those differences sound significant particularly in the context of 6 years or so ago. Dual processor computers are significantly more expensive than single processor ones. Today an additional core would be used, which is cheaper than 2 processors as is the logic board, which only has to have a single socket.
Additionally, 3fps vs 5fps is a 66% improvement over the former. 5fps is serviceable for many uses, 3 is difficult for any live events.
I don’t recall ever having any problems during live events with the A850, which is why is remains close at hand. The A99 I currently use is an exceptional camera, but my A850 is still a joy to use.
I don’t doubt it. The a 99 is great, but it can feel a tad sluggish (beyond fps) compared to a mid to upper end OVF dslr.
Though if you are shooting a wedding, when you are anticipating the bride kissing the groom do you / would you reach for the 3 fps or 6 fps a99 to get the best shot?
on paper they do and I was worried about it but when I had the a850 it all worked out fine.
My guess is that the A99II will just be a 36mp version of the possible A88 for a couple hundred bucks more.
There really incremental A99 upgrades, and not new cameras.
A99-II will come 100%. Just look at the slides from A77-II presentation.
Sorry, please enlighten me by kindly showing the slides?
BTW I said ‘less likely’ because a 2-year cycle isn’t really logical (at least to me).
Not necessarily in 2014, but A99-II is coming…
http://ib2.keep4u.ru/b/2014/05/12/bb/bb241ad59659fb1ee8bf9ccb644f142e.png
Nice, do you have anything else!!
You can find full presentation on YouTube
looks like the NEW camera is A77II. what in the graph make you think A99II is coming?
There is nothing in that presetnation about the A99II, that is DEFINATELY the space for the A77II
Isn’t that the place holder for the A77 Mark II? If this would show the A99, there must be a A77 Mark II on this slide…
Umm sorry, how can you conclude that A99II is coming in 2014 with that slide? Or yet even the A99II itself?
I don’t know about 2014… but as for A99II itself, look how they positioned the cameras.
a100 -> a700 -> a900.
a55 -> a77 -> a99.
a58 -> a77II(NEW) -> what goes here?
They didn’t include A65 in the middle, because this line is discontinued.
So it’s entry crop -> advanced crop -> full frame.
Sony also had a lot of other cameras, like A580, A850 etc., but they’re not in the picture. Why? I think they chose to present their A-Mount history in this way, because A58 is now the entry-level, A77-II continues A77 line, and A99-II goes to the upper right and completes the picture
Quite obvious that camera is A77II, thanks anyway.
That’s the A77ii not the A99ii. In the slide it’s at the same level as the A77, the A58 is at the same level as the A55. There is no space for the A99ii in that presentation.
Hi, can help to post the slide, keen to get the A99II.
a99ii
DUAL Bionz X proccessor should really help deal with
4k internal, 10 bit, better codec, no heat issue, better noise analisys, better buffer handling, etc
I want the Barry sensor array implemented.
We dont care what you want. 🙂
You are not @animalsbybarry
You are a coward, who’s afraid to identify himself
These are cyberbullies..we call them trolls to be polite but thats not what they are.
They justify thier behavior by believing thier victims deserve it.
They further justify thier behavior if they can get other cyberbillies to join them.
I hate what they are with a passion and will never back down to thier kind.
I admire Admin but am dissapointed he does not takesome sort of stand against this.
I am also dissapointed more sar readers do not speak up against this.
Today they are comming for me and people are not speaking up.
Tomorrow they will come for you and there will be no one left to speak up.
Well Said Barry.
I look forward to the day you cannot or will not post here anymore.
Oh looky, looky we found another sock puppet who coincidently is agreeing with the first sock puppet! I can’t wait until summer break and you children are out of grade school so you have more time on mom’s iPad to post even more cleverness on SAR. ;^)
The only 4K cameras that can do that at 30K+ that require addons even to do internal. Don’t hold your breath.
GPS
Unlikely. I think they removed it on the A77II essentially because Sony thought that it’s not a worthy feature.
If they that think that they are wrong. I have many Canon and Nikon friends that are jealous of my a77 because of the GPS. I will not upgrade if it is removed.
Not IF, the GPS feature is gone from the a77-2. Perhaps there will be an app that utilizes the wifi to connect to a phone and grab GPS.
totally agree! I experimented a bit this weekend. I disabled the GPS of my a65 this weekend after installing one of the GPS apps on my cellphone. Took photos for 2 days and downloaded everything on my laptop for geotagging. Lots of work in comparison with a built in GPS in the camera. Plus, you always have that uncomfortable feeling that these 3rd party apps may destroy the quality of your pics. I’m not saying my pics are excellent. I’m just saying that I’m worrying about things that I never had to when GPS is built in the camera.
Yeah sometimes Sony wants to remove what their costumer likes… Sad but true.
More likely with the addition of WIFI and NFC, the battery drain keeping the GPS would have be too high. Also as China does not allow GPS devices, Sony have had to make 2 versions of the GPS fitted cameras. Removing this allows them to make a single global model.
I would like to see a higher capacity battery fitted to newer camera models (as long as it was backwardly compatible with the existing NP-FM500H battery), allowing to keep the GPS in the camera
Admin, will it be new E-mount FF in 2015? I mean a mature FF improve from current E-mount FF…
Before I repeated the false information I was told I was predicting 2014 to be no major sensor innovations until the stacked sensor in 2015……late 2015….
I was also predicting a year of introducing new camera forms and funtions to see what the marketplace wants.
I am returning to my original prediction tha are based on my own logical interpretation of what I see happening and not on repeating what I have been told.
These predictions have been and continue to be accurate.
2014 will see no more than 24mp C sensors and 36mp FF sensors.
That looks logical to me… I see no reason why should they improve the sensors, since they’re almost always the best in their own league nowadays. Stacked sensors seems promising, but I heavily doubt that it’s gonna be more than 50% (1/2 stop) improvement.
Stacked sensors will have significantly higher res and IQ and will replace bayer sensors.
I believe Some tiny Mobile camera chips sized 1/3.06″ and 1/2.33″ named ‘Exmor RS’ Sensors is there in some famous phones such as the S4, Z1, G2, etc. They are nothing but only ~30-40% improvement in the IQ area.
I wonder what you are doing holding your breath for the stacked sensor cameras? Why don’t you buy Sigma stuff and use them? 🙂
Life isn’t worth waiting for stuff that does not exist, especially when these are just one small part (tools) of the entire equation.
Sigma has niether a camera or a system to go with its sensor.
It is an early attempt at stacked sensor with major shortcomings.
Stacked sensors will exceed 2 stops of improvement, easily. See my lengthy discussion with Barry in this thread on stacked sensor technology. Cheers!
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/oh-gosh-hasselblad-in-trouble/#disqus_thread
This was very interesting information Franko! Thank you!
Hmm… Based on my Exmor RS knowledge I think 2-Stops is way too much. But I really like that claim to be in reality. We have to wait though!
Or is it my mistake on my knowledge of Exmor RS? Anyway, thanks for the useful information!
Thank you, Prophet Walter.
let’s hope it brings wifi remote control.
Sony A88 = Sony A7 in an A-mount body?
A7S in A-mount body would be great
Make the A 99 mk II as a FE type. Put the sensor forward so i can use the best lenses Canon has to offer. example 17 mm f.4 Tilt Shift, EF 24-70 2,8 mk II is
WTF would be the point. No one wants them. The e-mounts aren’t serious cameras. They’re advanced amateur cameras, too slow (AF, Burst rates), and their lens library is pathetic.
Maybe Sony should slap a A-Mount and dedicated AF system on the FE cameras, maybe then they’ll be something actually usable in a real world environment.
Oh that’s right Sony did, its called the A77II, and it outclasses anything the e-mount has to offer.
Oh look, a troll. Show me your flickr stream. Wanna see those serious pictures you took.
Is e-troll baby getting upset. Why would anyone show you anything other than a middle finger.
Ha Ha Ha
Really!!!
What you don’t have your own web server. That’s pretty pathetic, you must be another amateur turned know it all. Maybe you and BRAT can exchange Facebook profiles and sing kumbaya together around the campfire together.
Dude. E mount is not the enemy.
Us Sony guys need to stick together no matter what mount we shoot. We have enough CaNikon opposition.
It’s not the enemy but Sony is becoming one if they don’t focus on their professional line of SLT cameras. One full frame a mount is pathetic, insulting and franky sends a louder message than any e-mount camera to date. Even if the mount doesn’t last, it’s not being helped by Sony’s strategy in any way.
I agree 100%. It IS pathetic to have just one A-mount FF. But those are two different things. We cannot force Sony to change their mount plans, so fragmenting and infighting will not do anything beneficial. It will weaken the Sony community.
Yes. +1
Part of the problem is Sony deliberately designed the e-mount as a direct competitor to the a-mount and, other than size, has never really bothered to differentiate the lines. Sony marketing is mum offering any statement giving customers confidence Sony has a long-term commitment to a-mounts leaving a widespread belief they’re abandoning a-mounts. The perception of the a-mount’s demise is so widespread reviewers like CNET are bringing it up in their a77II preview (http://www.cnet.com/products/sony-alpha-a77-ii/ ) I mean how incompetent is Sony marketing really to let this belief fester? Unless, that line of thinking is true and Sony really wants folks to transition to e-mounts and is happy to undermine the system.
E mount cameras run circles around A mount in photovideo quality.
Circles- as in not going anywhere. Dear Sony, please recycle what you’ve already given me in a-mount but offer less options, worse AF, worse ergonomics and demand that I buy an adaptor to use my lenses. Oh wait, they already did that.
How can anyone respect an e-mount user
The e-mount is really a pathetic system designed for people who are willing to give up some of the most important features of an interchangeable lens camera, because they’re either too physical weak to operate a DSLR properly or just plain dumb.
They share the same sensor tech. Leave it to a juvenile e-mount fanboy troll to feel the need to trash the Sony brand in order to feel good about his particular Sony purchase. Sheesh! ;^)
I´m sure they do, but no slt in E mount means more Iq, just compare the iq of the a7/r vs a99 or a6000 vs a77 plus in video the E mount is clearly superior with much more options plus it doesn’t have the lame restrictions of the A mount such as cropped video due to stabilization even if disabled, no limit of 3.5 aperture to use af, no mushy video etc.
I like A mount cameras, but the E mount cameras have a edge in image quality and video, while A mount cameras have better tracking af and much more lenses variety.
I get the frustration with the endless stupidity the ‘kill the a-mount’ kiddie trolls have spewed on SAR but please no ‘fight fire with fire’ counter-trolling. Please, you’re above that.
So many said “A mount is dead!” so many time that I think these might be zombi cameras… LOL
If true, so much for the death of the A mount… LOL
Get this one, trolls….
The trolls won’t bite.
Its obvious the FE has been, and epic disaster. No one other than a couple of SAR trolls wants them, so Sony decided that its time to invest in the only mount that actually matters.
We should setup a support group for our e-trolls, cause 2014 is going to be a real rough ride for them.
That is just as much a troll statement as the E-trolls make.
It is crystal clear that Sony believes in both the E- and A- mounts and will continue to support both to cater to both camps. Reusing technology from E- to A- and A- to E- is fine by me!!! It spreads the development costs out and makes everyone a better product!!!
Maybe if we’re obnoxious rude its partly because of the poor treatment the a-mount users received from the mirror-less community.
Maybe if we’re obnoxious rude enough they (e-mount users in general) will find another forum.
Why would you want that? We’re not enemies by nature. We’re only enemies when idiots start stupid pointless chest-pounding A-ego or E-ego sh*t.
Here’s a complimentary mirror to help you troubleshoot.
Ok, I don’t normally respond to these types of emotional comments, but that last part made me LOL.
Well said Mr Kukla, well said…
you are the one trolling, I have a E mount sony camera, and I don´t diss A mount cameras.
The e-mount is dead, mirror-less is junk, used by junk photographers.
Ha Ha Ha. Its funny when the tables have turned. A-Mount users got hammered by the e-trolls for years.
Now that the A77II has been launched, and rumours of two new A-Mounts are surfacing you bet your a$$ the a-trolls will settle their scores.
So I hope you enjoy the a-troll bombardment for the next two years.
e-mount are light leaking junk
You are a childish fool. We’re all in this together as Sony users. There is no room for “A-mount is better than E-mount” bullshlt.
People, this kid is worth no one’s time. Dont respond.
There is no room for both mounts.
The e-mount is obviously a failed experiment.
Maybe Sony should release a compact A-Mount for those who are too weak to handle a real camera.
Maybe they can make a pink or blue version for you.
Here is my camera list:
A99 x 2 + VG
A77 + VG
A850 + VG
I do not use E-mount. I do not want E-mount. But E-mount has a purpose. And E-mount will coexist with A-mount for the foreseeable future. If YOU dont like that, you have two choices. Shut you mouth, or move to CaNikon. You are indeed a future-blind, shortsighted, belligerent A hole. I mean A-troll.
And you’re wrong. 🙂
You forgot belligerent, rude, heathen, SOB. That sums up a-trolls comments today. He’s an a-mount version of Dan.
+1
Seriously…what’s the point for these guys? BTW, I did have belligerent in my list. But I agree with your list too!
Admin should focus on deleting these comments and banning the posters. These people/posts are a disgrace towards humanity.
Wow I may be an a-troll but your obviously blinded by the e-mounts novelty factor.
They’re kind of like a Happy Meal toy, and once your done playing with, you realize how much they really suck, and toss it into the junk drawer.
I have squeakier toys that are more useful. I just dropped something more useful in the toilet.
You actually made me cry with your response. Sometimes the truth hurts 🙁
What is unique about the E-mount and now FE mount is that it translates between the stills and motion line of Sony Cameras. Sony has FF motion cameras in development that will use the A7s sensor so it makes complete sense that Sony are pushing out FE mount lenses…the FE mount line will continue to grow quickly as both sides of Sony’s camera business feeds into that lens system…. No Sony cinema camera uses A mount natively…oops
I’m calling BS. Gav is apparently full of troll crap
Do you also saw wood with a hammer too?
The A-Mount is designed to be a camera first. It does wild and crazy things like taking pictures. Its video is great, but its a secondary feature.
If you need a professional video camera buy something with the Z-Mount.
You always know when you touch a sore point when people resort to name calling etc etc….Was I incorrect?….Did you actually have a point to make? …Or just happy with a tantrum?…
oh dear….
I am not sure if A-mount is dead or not. I really hope not, but the release of just one (kinda) new A-mount camera isn’t a proof that everything is alright again.
The a88/99II rumors are just rumors. If this is true than I truely believe that A-mount isn’t dead. But ever since there have been many rumors about A900, A850, A88, A89, A95, A99 and so on.
Maybe Sony itself isn’t so sure where to navigate the A-mount boat.
Sony seems to want to push the 4K format for video. It would be surprising if its new full frame alpha offerings did not include 4K, and maybe in a way that does no require use of external recording components like the A7. I would welcome that, but also would like Sony to continue to include an integrated GPS function which is a small but very useful feature. It doesn’t contribute to IQ obviously but it sure makes my life easier to have location information automatically embeded in the metadata without having to gather it with an external device and go through a whole set of additional steps to incorporate it in the metadata.
Any news on those FE wa zoom and large aperture prime? Release date, size, price, quality…?
I do not see anything about it in your: “and do not forget”
No news too about this compact MF or the a9? Any wide angle adapter for the RX1?
Thx
Isn’t the FE a stillborn mount?
And?
Just buy their adapter, and use the A-Mount Zeiss lenses.
Looking for something more compact than an A7 + adapter + DSLR size lens…
And I am also looking for auto focus wide angle lenses…
I was not asking your advise on alternatives since I have already looked at the options out there. I was asking questions about the release of FE wa lenses, rx1 wa adapter or compact MF…
Thx
Then next time look for a FE post, because the majority of the A-Mount community do follow the e or fe mount, cause they’re uninteresting.
Next time don’t’ try using a language that you have problems with to post unhelpful comments…
Don’t feed the troll.
A few weeks ago it was the same crowd singing A Mount is dead.
Jack is a Jack A$$
Pawn that camera before its too late. Don’t waste good money on bad mounts (e-mounts are junk), or save a little space in your closet next to the mini-disc player.
Could you elaborate on why is the E mount a “bad” or “junk” mount?
Could give an alternative for a small size full frame digital camera that would shoot wa lenses (28mm and under) with auto focus?
Or you just wanted to sound smart with you almost funny comment?
WTF? a-troll must be an a-mount version of Dan. God help us all.
I’m pretty sure it IS Dan. The MO is the same.
He cant use his name now because he has egg on his face with all his debunked “A-mount is dead” crap.
A A99II would be a punch in my face… I just bought the A99 about three months ago…
Put a helmet on.
You probably got a sweet deal.
I guarantee the A99II is going to be 50% more than what you just paid. The A99 has been selling for $2149.99 on sale in most places in Canada. I’m thinking the A99II is sold for about $2999.99 or more.
Oh. So in other words Sony failed to match their product releases with your schedule.
Darn Sony. How dare they? Dont they know who YOU are?
LOL
If you then buy the A99II the A99 becomes your backup body..Good setup!
That can happen to anyone.
Though for most, this update will be right on time. ie, I don’t need a better body but I’ll likely cave and upgrade just because I’m a sucker for the latest and greatest. 😉
Only an SR3, but any guesses what the price might be considering the a77mii is £1000?
£1500?
Trying to decide whether to get an A7 + LA-EA4 or wait (for an alpha FF or the last rumoured E mount FF this year).
I have the a900 and think it’s just a fantastic camera. But, it’s not exactly a killer in the AF department- fast it is not. It also doesn’t exactly win points in low light. But, outside of extremes it can still hold it’s own in terms of IQ compared to newer offerings from any manufacturer. I’d like to move up, but the a99 doesn’t do it for me. So, like many others I wait. It’s always a waiting game with Sony. I’d like a real step up in DR, ISO and a lighter camera. If the E mount offerings weren’t so devoid of performance outside of IQ I’d be up for that- but they are too much of a step back IMO. An updated A99- come on sony, get on with it.
I agree with most of your post…just be careful what you wish for when it comes to weight. A hefty body is very useful with long lenses for more than one reason.
Damping shutter vibration, making it easier to hold steady and frame your subject, reducing camera shake allowing longer exposure times…stuff like that, right? 🙂 I agree.
Kinda important things for a photographer.
This could be fun. Expect Sony to consolidate existing technology: BionzX, the new FF sensors, new EVF, new AF module etc.
I’m already dreaming of a 12MP hi speed shooter for (indoor) sports events.
Also expect reusing the same body al’a A7.
More AEB options, 5-11 shots with 1ev spacing.
This rumor came just in time. I was thinking about a smaller full frame, a7 or a7s. But would love to see what the A99II will bring. Unfortunately, Andrea now has me hooked to keep monitoring this site daily for news of the 99II. Keep it coming.
Which A mount lens can keep up with the Zeiss FE 55/1.8?
Sigma 50mm 1.4 Art
i believe the a-mount 50mm 1.4 sony zeiss should come close as well
The 50mm f/1.4 Zeiss easily blows it out of the water, which is probably why DxO hasn’t tested it yet.
I find there is something very pleasing about the bokeh on the 50mm Zeiss. Maybe it’s just me, but I think the rendering is miles apart from other offerings of late. I’d like to see how the ART stacks up in this regard- not just sharpness. I’ve read from some preliminary reviews that the bokeh is rough at close distances and wide open- as in all the time. If that’s the case no thanks. I don’t see this as a Zeiss killer in any way- not yet anyhow.
Yeah, but the Sigma isn’t weather sealed so a single drop of water in the right place can destroy it.
LU CID, have you read this article? http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/12/assumptions-expectations-and-plastic-mounts
Ouch. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony’s marketing is leading us on.
I have a question. Can someone tell me….does a cameras EV directly relate to dynamic range? For instance, dxomark states the A99 has around 14EV- is this 14 stops of dynamic range? All the actual reviews I’ve read state it has the highest quality level at around 9.7 with it topping out at around 12-13. So what’s with the discrepency? Do manufacturers overstate DR or is EV something a bit different in how it measures DR.
IMHO the following would suffice as a great update for the A99:
– Bionz X processor
– A7’s sensor ( A99IIr with A7r’s )
– New AF sensor similar to A77II’s, adjusted for the FF size ( area covered by AF points )
– capability to lock up the SLT mirror, when the on-sensor pdaf/cdaf provide acceptable AF speed for the task.
– larger capacity buffer
– other extra features as the A77II ( WiFi, AFC, ..)
– keep AF assist lamp
– keep GPS
– US$2699.00 ( A99II )
why A7S sensor, I want a correct camera with good resolution for stills and that can make 12500 iso clean, here a 20 mpix camera would be perfect, or develop the 24 mpix chip for better performance. For stills the 12 mpix is useless, it starts noising and losing detail at 6500 iso like just any sensor. In video you do not see that, in stills where you keep looking on same spot, you see that quiet fast. And for pricing, ask lower prices, or do you really want to pay that much for all you buy. If you knew what such a camera costs at production you would bite yourself in the butt with your pricing idea. I bet all you want that all the freaks that think a 12 mpix A7S can do perfect clean shots at 105000 ISO will be very disappointed once they discover the truth. Video and stills are 2 very different things.
Can You give prooflink of noisy shots on a7r at > 6400 ISO or comparing shots of a7s with a7 or a7r???
Can You give prooflink of noisy shots on A7S (soorry!) at > 6400 ISO or comparing shots of a7s with a7 or a7r???
I sure hope so. Enough of this E-mount nonsense. Until Sony releases a big E-mount body with in-body IS and AF, it’s a total no-no.
is there going to be another FE release this year? hopefully something a little more mature and less rushed to the market?
e-mounts are a complete waste of time, and money. Junk cameras deserving a place the junk drawer at home next to the SACD.
on A88 please make it super light weight! HARD PLASTIC from inside and out! we need lightweight A-mount camera for run n gun video shooting.
If its SLT pls make it have more screen coverage like the A77II. If its mirrorless pls make it have the same feature of A6000.
Please make it the same VG as a99 where u can use 3 batteries instead of just 2.
Please make a super light weight plastic f2.8 wide lens for video. please don’t use metal casing and metal mount like the one in tokina wide zoom lens. Canon just announced a light weight wide lens for their video shooters so pls give us alpha users something better because I love sony AF and Steadyshot for video much better than the canon hard to use features!
I want my a88 to have clean ISO up to 6400 if that’s possible! seriously that the most important ISO range for indoor low light shooters! and ISO 6400 for video use will be so amazing for we can have wider DOF like f5.6 to 8 if we want to shoot manual.
I want my a88 to have the same 24mb of raw file or less! the less the better because we will be shooting gazillion of pictures for events and we don’t want to choke up lightroom while processing the files.
I want my a88 to have huge print on the neck strap that says “SONY ALPHA A88” in bright reflective orange! though I don’t use the neck strap I still want it for bragging rights! ( who uses neck strap right? LOL)
for a99II please add everything I love about my a99 except that annoying thumb stick button and small AF screen coverage. chop off the GPS feature pls make the battery life longer!
New battery technology pls! Im really doubting if sony employers, desighners, testers, developers ever use their camera for shooting events. seriously man..please improve the battery life already. If Sanyo eneloope can do it why cant Sony?
Sony has better camera technology than Canikon…its just people need to know about sony camera and its amazing features and no doubt these people will jump ship to sony right away without even hesitating. Or maybe people already know their dinosaur cameras are using old technology but afraid to leave their hard earned lenses behind? In order to solve that problem simple give everyone free adapters.
sony, i’m your biggest fan boy ever! please head my request TY!
im looking for a fast AF, fast burstrate and 4k video (+ high fps 1080p) in aps-c size, cmon. where is the aps-c 4k cam for under $2k
A99 Mark II sounds awesome..
A99S Mark II sounds super awesome!!!
its light year better than any of the e-junk being sold today.
admin, the a99II rumor/news generates way more comments and interests than other sony cameras. please keep it coming. i’m just one of many a77 owners waiting to upgrade to a FF a99 successor.
Its true, even the e-mount users read up on the FF Alphas. I bet they’ll be over 500 posts by tomorrow this time.
A99 could have been a success if it had been sold at today’s Sony prices, let’s say around 1850$ for the body. So, let’s wait for the successor and see at what price they will sell it this time.
The A99 was and still is a success. Which why we all want the revised/updated version.
I suppose you want a $500.00 A77II as well.
lets see what I want then from the A99s
24mp sensor that scores at least 3300 for low light in DXO
AF fast and accurate that rivals the best out there
10 fps up to 50 in RAW
battery life at least 1000 shots
other things not as important to me
mirrorless with the a7s sensor sounds nice. please, no avchd.
I’m pretty sure no one wants another slow low resolution camera. I’d be fine with a 12fps, capable FF camera with wifi, GPS, A77II AF system, and a matching 35mm f/1.4 Zeiss lens.
Ho Hum, more rumours, I’m still hanging in there with my old hardly ever used A900, why jump to an A99 gaining no more resolution, maybe a slightly cleaner file. I use a Hasselblad but find its size a problem with travel jobs etc and have held onto my A mount lenses hoping Sony would simply slap the 36mpxl sensor it sold to Nikon into its own camera and let me get on with it. Been looking at the A7r but thought I’d wait and see as ‘rumours’ had it there’s will be a new A mount early 2014 – not. Don’t know about others out there but when I hear A mount I think at least 36mpxl, if the A9911 is simply another 24mpxl with higher ISO or some other nerdy tweak, there will be a lot of very pissed off owners out there including me, and obviously that will be the final nail in the A mount coffin, these big lovely CZ / Sony lenses make no sense without a great camera to attach them to. I shoot mainly still subjects, long exposure low ISO for hi res output to large format print, simple stuff but it tests the core attributes of the camera and sensor – I’m after the best RAW file I can get with best resolution and dynamic range. If the A991 is simply a A99 upgrade then I’m better off buying an adaptor and getting the A7r as it will outperform a 24 mpxl A9911 in regard to what I want.
same here but if a99II is less than 36mp i’d jump ship and get a nikon 800e instead. that nikon 36mp sensor is 2 years old so hopefully sony will have a newer higher resolution sensor for a99II
I was thinking of swaping out my a900 sensor and throwing in the A7R sensor. I figure I’d rent it and just do the swap- who would notice? Twist a few wires here and there, some scotch tape….Wammo, instant A900II.
You could YouTube it, and even if it didn’t work half of viewers would try it anyways.
Well, out of stupid curiousity I looked online. I mean, those sensors are just connected to their own seperate logic board and connected via ribbon. But obviously software would be the biggest obstacle…yada yada. Some sick computer hack out their has to have thought of doing this. In then end you would just end up with the A900 shell and the complete A7R internals. But if it had the OVF it would be a sick brick of awesomeness.
Swapping out the sensor would be the easy part. Rewriting the firmware so it can correctly use the new sensor and work on the existing hardware would be the challenge. Probably not impossible, but certainly not a task I would want to take up.
Hell yeah! A900II–36+ mp, OVF, with a live view implementation and a tilt/pivot LCD.
Let’s say it’s 50+mp, I would buy it, assuming a good live view.
Salivating…
what I would like to see at Sony are pricey and affordable high speed lenses, in the 1.8 -1.2 range, not this eternal F4 expensive Zeiss stuff.
How about a whole line of nothing but Zeiss .95 lenses. Just imagine, 24mm .95, 50mm .95, 85mm .95 and 135mm .95. It would be magnanimus!
And you’d need a truck to haul them around. The 135mm would need a 200mm filter probably worth more than a kidney or two.
Well, if we’re talking a Ford Ranger than I’m ok with that. If we’re talking a dually F350 then I’ll pass. But .95 with a floating element design and maybe spherically grounded lenses like Leica’s in Zeiss format on my A900 would be hot sh@T!
135/0.95 would likely need a 150mm filter. They do allow such lenses to have vignetting.
good luck nailing a focus with a 135mm F0.95 :v
A rumor of a A99II just a few days after the official lunch of the A77II does not make too much sense to me. In some cases people considering buying the A77II will prefer to wait to see official A99II specs and price, even tough they are different target cameras. For new people in the photograph world or for those without many lenses of a particular brand, could get tempted by Sony’s competitors with new announcements in the mean time.
People that can afford the a99 won’t really think about getting an a77mk2 unless it’s for a specific purpose. But, if the a88 is a budget fullframe (with the a7s sensor I hope) for around $1600 then that might take away some thunder.
1600-1800 full frame IMO would be the best selling A-mount ever (for FF). It would kill expectations- I think there is a ton of demand for this.
It really needs a faster and bigger AF Coverage. And High ISO capability. Or any pro will still run to the 5dmk3 instead. Oh, forgot to mention better video capabilities…
Pros already use the A99, they have been using the A900 since release. The issue isn’t AF coverage which has always been historically poor on any brand, or video capabilities that stills pros couldn’t care less about.
The issue is pro level support and being confident that the system is going to be around. With CaNikon a pro is fully supported and knows that CaNikon aren’t going to leave you high and dry to concentrate their efforts on pocket cameras.
100% agreed.
Alpha Guy: Thumbs up from my side.
Not sure if anyone’s asked, but is 1 of the sources Barry?
I don’t expect anything new. I just want Sony to finally combine ALL its advanced technologies in a single device. Just take A99 body and throw out that rudimental SLT mirror! Make autofocus like in A6000. Improve battery capacity and maybe stabiliser. Sensor… I personally enough with 24 Mp, but again A6000 autofocus and A7s ultrahigh ISO technology are strongly required.
“Just take A99 body and throw out that rudimental SLT mirror! Make autofocus like in A6000.”
Yeah and the Moon is made of cheese.
I would love an a99 optimised for video with the same 12mp sensor as in the a7s and 4k . If they put in 5 axis stabilisation too I think that would be perfection.
A99II:
36mp sensor
4k Video
400000 iso
Af points that are more spread out
NFC, wifi, GPS, bluetooth
Built in vertical grip
A88:
24mp sensor
1080p video 120 fps
15fps burst
NFC, wifi, GPS, bluetooth
36MP and ISO400000 is impossible at this point of time if A7s is of any indication, heck not even D4S could pull such thing
Good point
So many people crying out for new FF a-mount camera. :-D. Need more info.
People always say they want more, they just don’t want to pay for it.
There are a few A99 users with valid upgrade wishes, just like I have wishes that the A77II happens to fix for me over my A77, but the majority here would never buy a full frame and are just fantasising about what Sony should do.
If the people here *really* wanted a great full frame dSLR then they would already have one from CaNikon, the number of people here actually intending to get a FF is tiny.
1) An exposure compensation button that’s re-mappable to flash compensation, as the front wheel can already be used for ambient compensation.
2) Minimum shutter speed for ISO-Auto setting.
PS: keep your effing WiFi and NFC where it’s been and leave the GPS alone…
All I’d want in an A99II is 3600 clean ISO- as in seriously clean, a bit higher DR (always welcome) faster buffer and increased contrast in the EVF such as the A77II. Other that than change nothing and lower the price a bit- I’m on board.
Good points. I would add
1. unresponsive joystick during shooting while swiching AF areas
2. AF points cramped in the center
I’m following SAR since 1year and a half. I was tired of all the Emount stuff as well as rumors about the A-mount no future. I own a A57 and just want a real upgrade alternative.
And well, here comes the A77 II… not so impressive. Now, these rumors about A-mount cameras. I don’t believe it for one second. Probably fake and trollers trying to entertain us ? The A77 II should be a killer camera, well… The new sensor, the new focus, the new nothing ! Still no A-mount lenses (oh yes, 70-400G2, hoohohoho, mery christmas !), and some Sigma’s announcements ! heyyy, please welcome 50m F1.4, 24-105 F2, 18-800 F1.8, preorder now ! available in the next 10 years !
Ahhhh come on… I don’t believe anything now. There will be an SR5 the day before photokina or so for a stupid Flash, a bag or something like that.
The a77II blows your a57 away you have no idea what you are talking about
Guys don’t be so rude. In no way i said the A77 II was not a good replacement for the A57. Yes i’m waiting for a better replacement, but i’m not interested in the A77. But the A77 II, from SAR, should be a killer cam, and the specs are good but that’s all. How many SAR readers where disapointed like me? As for all others news about A-Mount, we are still waiting no ?
You can tell i’m a perfect idiot, but tell me what is new in 2013 / 2014 about A-mount ? Lenses ? Some has been anounced, like the 18-35 i really would like to buy, but it’s still not available. COme one, there was a photo contest in France last year where you could win this lense. I’m just feeling pain for the winner who is still waiting the lense.
So, when I read 2 new cameras full of new features, i’m a bit sceptical. It reminds me the last 2 year with promises. At the end look what we got. Am i not right ?
It is obvious that the A77II is all about speed, faster processor and a faster AF module with more coverage. The initials reviews of the pre-release A77II are saying that the AF is very fast compared to the A77.
This is a mark 2 camera, not a new camera. If rumours have promised something more than this, then so what? Don’t listen to rumours, lesson learnt.
The A57 is a respectable camera, but until you use the A77 (and A99) you have no idea what you are missing. I think that if you got hold of the A77II your attitude would quickly change, if it didn’t then you clearly don’t need anything more than the A57 in the first place.
Hitch: i agree with ur frustration of waiting forever…
Lol.
You’re either a pure troll or an absolute, no-holds-barred bonafide idiot.
go take some god damned pictures.
How long has it been since Nikon had proprietary rights on the Sony 36mp sensor for it’s cameras? 3 years, 4? Sounds about the right time lag for that Sony-Nikon agreement to expire and for Sony to have rights to introduce their own line of 36mp ff cameras. Can’t wait!
I would make new a99 bigger, accomodating 2-3 batteries and inegrated grip.
2000 dollars price mark for A99 MkII and 1500 price mark for A88!!! 😀
Simple, cleaner ISO above 2000, all the way to 4000 or 5000 and a faster burst rate
OMG please let the A99 be targeted specifically for still photography and smaller–like the A7 series, but for A-mount! Without the video stuff, they could give us the ultimate street photography camera–speed, full frame, low noise . . . oh please, oh please, oh please!
I wonder if the A99ii will have a full sized Pro Body (integrated battery grip a la 1DX D4 etc) and the A88 smaller form with separate battery grip..
i hope in a larger size of AF zone, a cleaner high ISO and a faster EVF. May add the touchscreen and WiFi. For the rest it is perfect.
need 4k with 120fps and better ISO range rest is good 🙂