According to two new sources Sony has scheduled an announcement in three weeks. The NEX-7 successor will be announced for sure and likely be named A7000. And also the new A79 could be announced on the same day.
I also know a Full Frame A-mount camera will come for sure but I don’t know if it’s in February already or in March.
I am also working on rumors about two camera surprises. Sorry if I don’t share them now but I am using what I know to double check the info. But I cannot hide my excitement, Sony will deliver quite some surprises if what I got turns out to be true!
That said the new name strategy for Sony seems to be:
Axxx (like A5000, A3000 or A7000) for the APS-C E-mount series
Axx (like A79 or A99) for APS-C or FF A-mount cameras
Ax (like the A7-A7r) for the FF E-mount series.
Pretty confusing 🙂
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So look like AX mirrorless FF cameras are the new flagship from the naming scheme,
but the most advanced and more expensive is an Axx, the A99 😉
Ax was the only choice left
Andrea, this is rumored for weeks. Any details on the specs for those cameras? Will the A79 be offered with R option?
I haven’t heard about an R option.
What about the A7000r? Any other interesting characteristics on the a7000?
So if NEX 3 becomes 5000, and NEX 7 becomes 7000, does this imply either NEX 5 or 6 will become 6000 and the other will be dropped?
I think I finally see what the naming strategy is for sony. It would seem the nex cameras are thousand/4 digit models the SLT models are double/or can also be hundred models such as A900 and the e-mount full frame are single digit models. It kinda makes sense if everything will eventually go mirrorless and if every sony is a Alpha.
Anything about the supposed other… Mirrorless APS-C announcement? I’d be happy to replace my NEX 3 at this point, and while the latest and greatest would be nice, I’d love something smaller than a NEX 7 (a7000?) or whatever.
Yep. Some specs would be really cool!
Its a genuine mystery.
Its between 24 and 36 mp. It is either SLT or mirror-less. Multiple sources suggest the SLT version was cancelled in Sep or Oct to make-way for a mirror-less version.
The patent for the mirror-less version was filed May 13.
Are you predicting the first mirror less a-mount will be the a77 replacement?
Sony did cancel multiple SLT SKUs in the fall. So, its possible, and it would sell exceptionally well with current alpha users. It would make the most sense for the A77 replacement to be the first mirror-less.
I know their end-state is to have the entire alpha product line mirror-less.
@BRWAT
No it wouldn’t. A-mount users wanting mirrorless (no idea why though) already have it. It’s a NEX with A-mount adapter.
Mirrorless A-mount giving crappy AF would be stupid, leave that to E-mount users who don’t need the AF performance of a dSLR.
Kinda think if it’s 3 weeks away we’d have heard more about the specs by now, for something as exciting as Nex/Alpha 7 series updates…
Also, what’s happening in 3 weeks that means Sony will announce these? 3 weeks *after* CES seems odd. Photokina is a long way away…
Yeah, SR3 seems about right for this one.
CP+
+1
What a mass on name strategy.
what a mess of spelling 🙂
Yes, the different NEX N/R/T/F whatever was so much clearer, and always a suffix to the number.
I honestly wonder how peoples minds work if you this this naming scheme is more confusing compared than the older one.
Maybe the firmware team created the naming scheme.
Confusing naming policy indeed. How does the (SLR-shaped, but E-mount) A3000 fit together with the tiny NEX-3 successor A5000? And will there be high-end, SLR-shaped, E-mount cameras, and how will *they* be named? What about the rumored sensor-shift-AF body, is something like that still to be expected?
Wild guess:
A1000 – A4000: DSLR shaped APS-C E-mounts
A5000 – A9000: NEX shaped APS-C E-mounts
The only way I could make sense of it anyway.
No more entry A mount camera??
I don’t think so, Sony are pushing people to E-mount and I reckon the A79 will be the last A-mount APS-C we will get. After that it will be E-mount and adapters or hybrid mount which is the same thing anyway.
Absolutely wrong!!!
Where do people come up with this S#!t.
The E-Mount is targeted for an entirely different demographic than the A-Mount. Its a consumer/enthusiast camera, and ill suited for larger professional lenses due to its size.
The A-Mount is target for people who use professional lenses like the SAL70200G ,SAL500F40G, 135mm SFT, SAL70400G
The A-Mount mirror-less cameras will likely outsell the NEX-7000, and A7r series, because they have the larger installed user base.
Sony will not alienate its A-Mount user base under any circumstances, because its an installed base with MILLIONS of customers that buy thousands of dollars worth of lenses instead of hundreds.
Sony earns BILLIONS of dollars from the A-Mount, lenses sales, and its accessories.
How did you arrive at those numbers? Considering sony lost money in 2012 and i havent seen numbers for 2013. But given canon says dslr sales are down for them in 2013, seems unlikely sony be making billions off dslrs in 2013 either.
Sony ILC division posted a profit, and is growing. The point and shoot division essentially evaporated. The rapid decline of point and shoot cameras led to the loss your talking about.
A-Mount users spend thousands of dollars on their systems generating Billions in revenue for Sony. Obviously not on a quarterly basis.
@BRWAT
OK, you are getting delusional now. Take you fan-boy hat off and calm down.
Go away AlphaGirl!!!
Go back to CaNikon land where you belong.
“The E-Mount is targeted for an entirely different demographic than the A-Mount. Its a consumer/enthusiast camera, and ill suited for larger professional lenses due to its size.”
There is nothing that says Sony has make small e-mount cameras. The A3000, for example. A-mount is also targeted at consumers and enthusiasts. I’ve yet to see Sony target the professional market with any real gusto.
Please could you provide some figures to back up your claims of A-mount outselling e-mount and Sony’s earnings of billions?
Read it over again. There is nothing inferring the A-Mount earning more or less than the E-Mount.
Read Sony’s quarterly or annual share holders report its available online, and do the math yourself.
Enjoy you read.
Enjoy your read
curious about how getting rid of the mirror will be such a big deal. do you think average Joe care that much about the slt light loss? I don’t think so, and the camera probably will behave just like an slt apart from that.
Except for having poorer AF performance. 🙂
Did you test one already or are you making a grand assumption?
I just wonder what you assume those new cameras can do that can’t be done with current models
An amusing choice if silly naming speculation is true and A mounts are Axx. No where to increment the A99 unless they pull an A99R on us. 🙂
BRAT, A-mount is dead, dead, dead.
Definition of idiot. See above post.
Now go away and paint your apple a colour that doesn’t suck.
@BRWAT
If you stop frothing at the mouth for a moment and re-read my comment you will see that I was referring to APS-C not Full Frame pro users.
All the evidence suggests that Sony have shifted strategy in 2013 and are moving away from A-mount APS-C and concentrating on A-mount Full Frame.
It is highly likely that we will stop seeing APS-C A-mount bodies from Sony after this year, the A79 will be the last.
Doubtful. I know it’d be a great idea but, the APS-C gives those who use them increased focal length especially handy with the lenses like the SAL70400G. The sensors are also much cheaper keeping the cost of the camera lower.
Of course there will be. They’ll launch after the Pro, and Semi-Pro models like normal.
Good that there’s still room for the a6/a8…
And A3/A5! I reckon there’s a market for an NEX-5 style FF camera without EVF. In fact, I think one was rumoured.
I don’t think they’d position anything FF below the number 6 though, the 5 and the 6 are essentially the same design and I think they are going to call the FF version a6.
Can’t imagine the specs of an a3…
Hi Andrea – are there any details on the a79 specs? Specifically I’m interested in things like the res, evf and whether they’re keeping af micro-adjustment… Cheers!
Will there be a new Ax camera soon? I know that the A7/R was released only 2 months ago, but still.. 🙂
They took the RX100 and did fun stuff with it. What about a FDR AA7 handycam with FF sensor? They’d want to put 4K on it so that might be the price too.
I’m sure they are busy working on the user flagship – A1R or A9R. Somehow, 7 doesn’t scream user to me. Probably in 2 years. In the mean time, there’s always room for an A5.
what do you mean with “user”?
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GetRidOfTheMoney(true);
HopeHaveFun(true)
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missing semicolon 😉
the last statement in the block can work without semi colon
if (newCamera.haveNonBayerSensor.toString().length() == 4)
{
GetRidOfTheMoney(true);
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I think it will be a square-format Sensor :).
Or a + shaped one!
Heart shaped one just in time for Valentines Day!
I must have missed the A78 release :). A3000 is the odd one out so far – form factor/name wise.
It could have been a 1 off I suppose – an experiment to see whether there’s any demand for an e-mount in a dslr sized body (albeit a pretty half arsed one, given the spec)….
I would really like some specs
Will this a79 be just another 24mp exmor sensor or will there be something new about it.
So far the only improvements we have heard about are 10% more light due to miror/phase detect improvements and a new jpg engine.
Dun expect too much, most probably the improvement from A77 to A79 is just a NFC function. Sony is capable of doing that. : )
Don’t expect anything revolutionary.
– Wifi/nfc.
– larger buffer.
– better slt mirror.
– slightly updated EVF.
– bionz X.
-On sensor PDAF.
AF-D from a99.
improved jpeg engine. ( not enough to make whiners shut up, but what does that take? )
Maybe also:
Video without line skipping.
Lower lag evf mode.
Maybe the lcd hinge remains.
Tether support.
The VG is compatible.
Also expect:
Still crop in video.
About the same shooting speed.
To be honest I could probably live with that. Improved evf, better iso 800+ performance (or the same performance if they go for a 36mp design) and improved af tick pretty much all the boxes for me, providing they keep the screen hinge and afma. Ideally improved flash and buffer, but I’d imagine I’m straying into fantasy territory there.
36mp C and a good price would be a dealmaker for me too.
Otherwise I will probably wait for the new tech sensor
If high ISO performance and speed are priorities, I doubt Sony would go as high as 36mp for an aps-c.
Hogjer resolution almost never results in lower iso when we are talking about a more advanced sensor.
This sensor is most likely going to be an iterative / evolutionary one. If the processor is bumped to 36mp and the files show the same noise levels/ISO performance as the 24mp a77 than the noise performance was improved but it ends up being seemingly a wash due to the higher density.
Plus there is still the speed issue. The 36mp a7R with Sony’s fancy new processor is only 4fps. The a77 was positioned as the camera for speed & action complementing the slower a99.
The a77 makes more sense to me as the poor man’s 1d-x (which is only 19mp): fast, aps-c, decent build and solid high iso performance for shooters using high shutter speed for action.
I prefer the 36 mp c with similar performance to the old a77.
4 fps is plenty for me.
The lenses I have would make great use of the higher mp c
Namely the Tamron 60mm f2 macro..and the new sigma 150-600 which I would primarily use at 600mm where the center sharpness is excellent butthe outer edges not as good…making thids lens excellent for c size use.
For the 90 and 180 macros I like to use I will wait for the new tech 56 mp ff.
In any event I am sure this next new camera is already desighned and our opinions will certainly not effect it.
Barry, our vocal opinions never affect sony’s camera designs only the collective buying decisions do.
Waiting XAVC-S video recording format with 10bit appear in E and A mount and the best add at least 120fps in 1080p. The new just announce sony action camera and handycam with this code may make my hope come true soon.Maybe it will happen on the 4k sony camera shown last time 1st. Don’t want 8bit anymore, headache in grading.
XAVC-S is 8 bit 4:2:0, it is basically AVCHD for 4k, the only thing good about it is the 50 Mbps HD recording option, only XAVC used on the Z100 and the F5/55 are 10 bit 4:2:2
Not sure another proprietary long GOP consumer grade codec is worth the wait, as it will only be a specs marketing game.
I’d much rather see a good untouched HDMI out as standard so anyone wishing to up their game can do so, and a decent pixel binning matrix for 1080.
Isn’t this a rumor site. Why bother double checking what you heard and start sharing with us. It means a lot to people who are planning to buy camera with limited resources.
If you wait, a better camera will be along. At least, that’s the rumor I heard.
You want to base your purchase on a SR1 rumor?
I don’t think Jason is aware of the SR1-5 scale and why Andrea has it.
Or the whinging that inevitably follows when sr2 rumours aren’t accurate…
“I am also working on rumors about two camera surprises” – if only E-Mount that mean the end of A-mount. See for naming AXYZZ, and count the cameras and lenses release.
A5000 = NEX-3 successor!
A7000 = NEX-7 successor?
How do they wanna call NEX-5 sucessor? A-6000? But what about NEX-6 sucessor? 😀
It would be much better to call them:
A3000 = NEX-3 successor
A5000 = NEX-5 successor
A6000 = NEX-6 successor
A7000 = NEX-7 successor
Maybe no more Nex-5 or Nex-6 successor? Either one will be cut?
My guess is that the A6000 will be a mix of the NEX5r and NEX6.
A5000 appears to be a ‘merge’ of the NEX-3 and NEX-5 series in the same way that A58 was a ‘merge’ of SLT 3 and 5 series
ie. build quality of 3 series (or worse) with a couple of features from the 5 series and a 20MP sensor dressed up as a ‘5’ series for a price in between the two
or in other words a finger-salute at Sony’s customers….
I don’t really have a problem with the differentiation – there was a fair gap between the 3 and 5, but the 5, 6 and 7 were stepping on each other’s toes… It wa same with the a58, a65 and a77.
It seems to me that the A5000 replaces the NEX 3 but has the price of the NEX 6. I can’t think of a feature that distinguished the NEX 5 from the NEX 3 that the A5000 has.
For what the hell Sonny-water-head does this?
-multiple new markets+idiots?
-just run out all interested people to go to… ( bmc c, pana,…cinecam;..bolly..?)
nothing under the Fs 700 ( ore next Fs 800)( 5900,-usd$) will ever be
usefull, works with strong codec, has no problems, no moire, ore some other
lack of failor..
because this is an giant big one…SONY.
for all others a price dumped A 57 ( last will be 349,90,-) is it…
the cows will bring milk, till dead…mouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
> For what the hell Sonny-water-head does this?
Looks like the NEX team members are ronin in the Sony clan. The model numbers show their place in the lineup. They are disgraced but left alive.
Hm, a bunch of new cameras. But where are the Sony FF E-mount lenses? Only two lenses??! In the FF range Sony competes with Nikon and Canon. Sony needs to quickly bring more lenses on the market. I ‘m currently not sure if I invest in a Sony FF system. Their strategy is confusing.
Rod
The lens situation is the deal breaker for me – I’d be all over it if the primes had OSS. I’m not willing to use an adapter (can’t see the point in buying a compact body and turning it into something bulky and unergonomic).
I can see the point of buying a camera that can use almost any lens with adapters. The size is not so important.
24-70 and 70-200 are releasing in a month or two.
I consider it a camera system. I need 14mm, 2.8; 24mm, 1.4; 14 – 70mm, 2.8; 85mm, 1.4; 70 -200mm 2.8; Macro 100 – 150mm, 2.8. I often rent a Canon 5DIII or a Nikon D800 with these lenses. Not all at once. I consider these 5 to 6 lenses as a absolut basic set. And, I’m not shure, if Sony will deliver.
Not going to happen since one of the main considerations is size/weight. Sure, there may eventually be faster glass, but I doubt they will ever offer all the fast glass mentioned, simply because they would all compromise that important design goal.
I have to agree with Zohee. Look at the lens roadmap and what Sony themselves are saying. What you are asking is not going to happen in the est couple of years. But then you can simply mount any lens you want on it.
You can have all of those today. Pick up the LAEA-4 and buy all those excellent A-mount lenses to your heart’s content. If and when a smaller FE version comes out, sell your A-mount lens and buy the FE.
Why is this difficult? Sony has created the most flexible and rich system on the market – FE lenses, A-mount lenses, legacy glass – all on one incredibly capable platform.
It’s clear, Sony need FF-lenses for FF-cameras. But, you can develop smaller FF lenses. Remember the great AND small OM-Lenses, ore many Nikon AI lenses, Leica M-Lenses (No, I don’t expect the Leica quality from Sony). It is possible to develop such small prime lenses. Ok, today, perhaps a little bit bigger, because the integration of all the electronics. Please get me right: I’m not asking for exact 14mm, 1,4 etc.
I’m looking for an answer to the question: Is Sony really willing to developed a complete FF E-Mount SYSTEM? With all the advantages of the system: Small, light, precise, etc.?
If I have to use the LA-adapter without knowing, that Sony develop a basic set of professionel lenses, then I can stay with the usual suspects. And without an adapter, who is always tricky, bulky, tolerances with 37 MP.
Rod
Dude, have you tried the A7 with the LAE-4 & the SAL70200G lens? Or even with the 2470Z? It’s not possible to hold the camera at all. 1.5 fps makes the A7R totally unusable for sports and action, and no IBIS makes the non-stabilized telephoto lenses even less attractive on the A7x bodies. The adapter itself make the whole system look clunky. The e-mount lenses are slower than their a-mount counterparts, because Sony is trading off performance to the size, so it’s even wrong to compare the mounts, like apples to oranges 🙂
I don’t understand why the e-mount fans so aggressively predict death of the a-mount, it’s like Toyota fans predict death of the Lexus brand. Both mounts can co-exist, right now Sony is just pushing the e-mounts since they are more attractive for the regular people thus bringing Sony more revenue.
I have about $12k in the A-mount glass and the only case I’m going to sell it if I decide to switch to Canon or Nikon that have similar or better quality lenses (and good selection), E-mount is just not an option.
I tried those combinations, not significantly different from my a850.
You arguments about a7/r being slow for sports are valid, but the reason you bring those arguments up remains unknown. The guy said that it’s the most flexible system. It let’s me use my A mount with phase detection and gradually shift to e mount with time. You are welcome to keep your a mount, just stop whining.
Any system can be flexible if different adapters exist for it. Please stop whining and go shoot yourself.
I’m calling BS. – You must me suffering from small lens syndrome.
I’ve tried it and it was unstable, performed poorly, and I nearly broke the lens mount and it’s garbage adapter. Sony’s A900/A99 or they’re mirror-less replacements (being released soon) are designed for that kind of work. If you want to use big lenses you’ll have to buy a “big boys”camera.
The A7 is a small camera, and the FE mount is designed to be used with small lenses.
I think Sony have been pretty clear on a fist roadmap of FE lenses.
It is a matter of reading it and say if this is for you or not.
I don’t find it that confusing.
Clear? Clear as mud maybe!
The only thing on there that is definitive is the 24-70 f/4 and the 70-200 f/4 – everything else on that roadmap is vague and unspecified. It is far from a clear roadmap.
The A7 and A7r are not DSLRs, and they do not compete with Canon or Nikon, because Canon and Nikon have no intention of launching a Full Frame mirror-less camera any time soon.
The A7 or A7r are for an entirely new/different demographic/Target Audience that is only just emerging.
The A99 is Sony’s only professional camera. Its replacement is the only true competitor for Canon or Nikon pro cameras. Sony already has a solid professional G-Series and Zeiss lens line up for those cameras.
Why would Sony reinvent the wheel? They already have a mirror-less A-Mounts ready to launch that are more than up to the task.
I don’t see the a7 or a7r as any less of a pro camera. The system is obviously not fleshed out yet, but they have alot of features that Ive been waiting years for and have the potential for alot more.
a7(r) make great video cams, Sonys e-mount has been that way for awhile anyways. But being able to have a stills camera that uses the same mount as my video camera that is light and easy to use is an awesome thing.
They also make pretty awesome B/C cams, especially with the wifi features. And are much easier the hand hold and use vs the FS700 or similar.
Im a fan, I wouldn’t say it would be most dedicated photographers first choice. But it suits what I would need it for.
Road photos, concert, some studio work, and personal.
I like it A7, and A7r as well. I’m definitely a future customer. Sony will flesh this camera out next version will likely match or exceed the performance of any DSLR on the market.
sorry to be a pita, but I’m really curious – exactly what makes the mirrorless a-mount such a killer camera?
It gives you poorer AF performance than a dSLR and the ISO performance of a dSLR, so I don’t get the obsession some here have with it.
If you REALLY need that third-half stop for high ISO on A-mount then get the A900 or for APS-C the A580 which can be had for peanuts on eBay.
What is confusing? Sony released an FE lens roadmap last year. Google is your friend.
Ten lenses by the end of 2014, Fifteen by the end of 2015.
Pretty sure Fuji didn’t have ten lenses 14 months after the release of the X-Pro. Not saying that Sony is going to make their goal but they have put the roadmap out there for all to see.
Uli, three FE lenses are already here, and seven more will be here by the end of this year, including at least three more Sony Zeiss, and two more Sony G lenses. Two of the lenses already here are Sony Zeiss lenses. Then five more in 2015.
What about an FF with the sensor-shift AF, therefore able to take lenses from any brand?
Concerning names…
I wonder what Sony will call A-mount cameras next year. They are up to a58 and a99 now and soon it seems that a79 is coming. They really seem keen on painting themselves into a corner.
Why did they skip a50, a51, a52… and a70, a71, a72… and a90, a91, a92… ?
It really makes no sense to me.
Maybe Sony don’t need all those spare numbers… 😉
Hi Igor,
please see my response above about the SYSTEM-qustion and the adapter solution (I copied it here):
It’s clear, Sony need FF-lenses for FF-cameras. But, you can develop smaller FF lenses. Remember the great AND small OM-Lenses, ore many Nikon AI lenses, Leica M-Lenses (No, I don’t expect the Leica quality from Sony). It is possible to develop such small prime lenses. Ok, today, perhaps a little bit bigger, because the integration of all the electronics. Please get me right: I’m not asking for exact 14mm, 1,4 etc.
I’m looking for an answer to the question: Is Sony really willing to developed a complete FF E-Mount SYSTEM? With all the advantages of the system: Small, light, precise, etc.?
If I have to use the LA-adapter without knowing, that Sony develop a basic set of professionel lenses, then I can stay with the usual suspects. And without an adapter, who is always tricky, bulky, critical tolerances with 37 MP.
Rod
Admin
With anouncent only a few weeks away you must have some info by now
Will the a79 be 24mp c size or something more?
TWICE in one thread.
Lotus
Your either part of the problem or part of the solution..
Since you percieve the problem to be unnecessary or redundant posts heres how you can be part of the solution.
Dont even bother to answer my posts..
Better yet dont even read my posts.
That might even give you more time to come up with comments of your own.
That way you would be a more productive fan rather than following me around like a parasite..never missing a chance to take a bite..
And yes I have made that comment to you befor..in fsct I have made similar comments to you many many times before.
I have already made various comments in this thread. I am not simply following you around – you’re really not as important as you think you are.
One simple question, why do you feel the need to post the same questions multiple times in the same thread?
Your obsessed..you cant resist following my every comment and making negative rsponses.
I do not answer to you. I have read your advice and choose not to follow it and I am done explaining my responses to you. So please continue to make your own comments..I approve of that..but try to forget I exist and stop subjecting other sar readers to this redundant argument
A man with OCD just called me obsessed. Go see a doctor, Barry.
Lotus Eater loves Barry! K.i.s.s.i.n.g in a tree.
I kind of do love Barry – his dedication to hammering home an idea or opinion is second to none. He’s the forum equivalent of a car crash – very, very difficult to ignore.
Yes the doctor is a good idea…one that is good at getting rid of parasites!
I cant seem to get rid of him
Mayby if I change my avatar he wont find me.
Yes, changing your avatar will definitely work. Your name and repetitive posts don’t stick out like a sore infected thumb AT ALL.
Lotus
I understand you have a crush on me.
I do not share yor feelings so it would be best if we went our seperate ways.
It woul be too difficult for us to remain friends because…..I DONT LIKE YOU!
Im sure ther must be many other sar readers that would be honored to have you stalk the, insult them and tell them to shut up every day but I am not one of them.
PLEASE GO AWAY!
You don’t like someone you have never met? Wow. I’m hurt.
You appear, however, to be confused as to the difference between stalking or having a crush and simply having the desire to tell someone they’re ruining a forum with their insistence on spamming it with the same stuff everyday.
Serious question, do you have OCD?
You want to defend this site from repetitive comments by repeating your same comments and insults over and over and over again.
The qualities you hate are the ones in yourself.
You lash out at others like yourself because you hate yourself.
Look at your own comments..you do all the same things you critisize others for and thats what draws you to them.
You constantly wine and complain so you seek out others who wine and complain and tell them to stop.
You think I repeat myself and tell me so over and over and over again.
I do not believe I have OCD but obviously you fear that you yourself do which is why you are so obsessed with me.
You have been stalking me for a very long time now and posting insults after many of my comments.
I WOULD LIKE THIS BEHAVIOR TO STOP. I AM COMPLETELY SERIOUS IN THIS REQUEST. PLEASE STOP HARRASSING ME!!!!!!
Nice attempt at a full psychiatric evaluation over the internet – thanks for that. Your post did kind of help answer my question, though.
OK Barry, you clearly have issues, as demonstrated in that last post. I will refrain from replying to any more of your posts.
For the APS-C E-mount series, don’t you mean AXXXX, as in A5000?
If you have information and you’re excited about it, then just post it and mark it as sr1 or sr2 or something.
No news of lenses to be announced with this? Fuji and the MFT guys are releasing really, really nice lenses so Sony should keep in mind that they have to stay competitive…
They should of never dropped the NEX brand for E Mount Cameras
C’mon weather-sealed RX2 with a 50mm lens and EVF.
+1
The surprise cameras, that someone from Sony spoke about? I’d like to see those. A camera with wings, which follows you around and is stabilized, would really impress me.
…or can be activated as a drone.
Homing pigeon!
RC drones are availabe thag fly with 4 blades on 4 arms and are specifically made to carry a camera.
If that is what you want it is not too expensive .
Let’s get serious. The a77 successor will have the new hotshoe and lower build quality than the existing model. The MSRP will be less then the a77’s was at launch. Still, get the current one while you can for at least $500 less than you’ll pay for this most uninspiring product.
A lot of assumptions there, based on what information?
Fantasy pure fantasy.
no, the A77 secessor will have:
Same body (great built quality and WS)
better AF
Dual AF
Better buffer (36 raws in 12fps burst)
12fps with AF tracking
Dual Bionz X
improved translucid mirror (less visible light reflected to the AF sensor)
better EVF and bigger eyecup
double SD card slot
new hot-shoe
better battery life
i can also use my imagination!
Admin, are these surprises you are talking about surprises in the sense that it’s new tech/functionality or is it the long-awaited introduction of features that Sony users have actually been asking for a long time?
It’s Sony. New tech.
I’m fine though with only changes on a99 being 40mp and no aa filter. Then the name is easy: a99r.
No dual AF in that case, since the sensor will be gapeless.
Very curious about this forthcoming α7000, if this will be the successor of the NEX-5/6/7 series that I would buy, nevertheless I’m more hoping for this α5 here: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-super-compact-e-mount-full-frame-camera-patent
Sony, PLEASE, go back to the simple and easy to remember and understand NEX line. Drop that Axxxx/ILCE crap!
If ain’t broken, don’t fix it!
I know they won’t do that. Just needed to get it off my chest 🙂
NEX was a consumer name all the way. Pretty lame one too if you ask me.
Clearly Sony wants the line to be taken more seriously and thus has moved to a more conventional naming scheme. It is no different than the ones Minolta, Canon and Nikon have used for decades.
On its own “Alpha” is a stronger word with more general recognition and better connotations. NEX is a made up word that means nothing. If you asked a stranger what each word meant, I think you would see where I am going here.
I think the naming change portents good things to come and a more serious commitment to the line.
@Chad – I understand what you say and do not disagree with you. However, Sony pretty much messed up.
Like I said on a previous post, at first we thought that the name Axxxx would be for SLR-like Nexes cameras. Now Sony releases an A5000 which is, in fact, a successor of the Nex 3 line. Not even Nex 5!
How is Sony going to deal with both E-mount cameras (rangerfinder and traditional SLR style)? Or perhaps they have given up already on the idea of releasing any more SLR-shaped cameras with E-mount?
Also, usually companies use 4 digit numbers for their lower end models (Nikon 3xxx and 5xxx series, Canon 1000D, for example). Is Sony going to release an NEX 7 successor and call it A7000? That sounds pretty lame for me as well.
You are right that Alpha is a much stronger brand than Nex. But between a Nex3 and an, hypotethical, A9000 (or, worse yet ILCE-9000), the first one sounds MUCH better and “more serious”.
In the end Sony created a solution for a problem that didn’t EXACTLY exist.
Andreas is clearly dosifying the info he has and playing with the the tempo to make sure we keep clicking and returning to this site… I appreciate all the effort put into this place, but it has become utterly boring. Time for some rumours, C´mon man, spice it uppp!!!
???? So you know the camera was named A7000? It’s the first time I write this. If it’s an info you don’t care about please be at least so kind to not write stupid things to discredit me. Thanks!
Discredit? Oh my, someone´s overreacting a little…Chill man. Peace!! (At least I didn´t get personal…).
Yeah, I probably need some rest today 😉
What? No! You are admin. Admins don’t rest! 🙂
Sounds like it is time for you to move on.
OH MAN!!! I just bought a NEX-7…guess I should have waited a couple of months.
The replacement will cost much more than current discounted NEX-7 prices.
You have 30 days to return it.
A79 better have 4K viewfinder, nightvision and brew espresso.
And a bottle cap opener
Finally, a good recommendation for that crappy old A-mount. Just take off the lens, insert bottle and wedge against metal mount ring and pry-off. Any spillage onto the floor will be prevented by dripping into the mount hole, preventing any need for cleanup of time, wood, or carpets. Now that’s ingenuity if I ever heard of it, what do you think?
Dan
p.s. Oh, and if that doesn’t get the fanboys going, what did I say this time last year- oh right, A-mount is dead, dead, dead. (and they still haven’t released an A-mount camera)
p.s.s. I wish that Sony would get this latest release out soon, with the Sigma 18-35 on Aps-c and the new sensor tech, things will be changing for me I’m sure.
Dan were you born an idiot or did you take lessons?
Wow it worked! I was worried that someone other than the BRAT would reply first. Now I don’t feel left out. Now I can have a stalker too, just like Barry’s forum love Lotus Eater. That’s super cool and to answer the question, does it really matter?
Dan
a D3300 competitor maybe?
Hmm, in that case I hope the NEX-7 successor is called A7000r (full magnesium and 30mp), and the NEX-6 successor will be A7000 (polycarbonate and 20mp), then we will at least have some A7 analogy. I really do not hope that the NEX-5 line is going to be stopped. I want a super compact magnesium alloy camera as a supplement digital back to the A7, than rather scrap the NEX-6 successor.
+1. Love my NEX 7 and with a few tweaks and all the new bells and whistles I will be a day 1 buyer. Also love my NEX 6 and I pray they keep two rangefinder style bodies in the lineup… I actually prefer the NEX 6 ergonomically, so I would love that to be the basis for both cameras (tri navi was a bit of a mess).
Please allow for stop down shooting mode so we can shoot live depth of field and accommodate for focus shift.
Please fix the flash, create a system and contract with someone to provide 3rd party support. Something. Anything.
Think outside the box. I own the A100, A700, A850, 2 Nex5, Nex 7 and the A7r. Still, I was sickened at the A99. I don’t think the A99 signaled a commitment to A mount. I had gone as far as I could with the A850 I shoot political campaigns and street and the A850’s sluggish autofocus missed more shots than it got. low light performance was below par. Still use it for portraits. My copy of the 70-300 G is unsurpassable by Canon L glass.
I bought two Canon full frame bodies and L series lenses. $10K, but I get the shot now. Once you get that shot at 16k ISO and it is as good as Sony 1600, you get spoiled.
I don’t think Sony has shown what business they are in. without taking a lot of time, there is nothing to support “billions of dollars in A mount sales”
I have been confused as to why Sony keeps making glass for a largely consumer line of camera.
Sony needs to just get some third party to make there lenses. That is always the major complaint besides there flash that apparently harnesses the power of the sun since it always overheats. I like sony cameras better than all other brands I have tried but what the hell.
we replace and we replace and we hope and we buy
we replace and we replace and we hope and we buywe replace and we replace and we hope and we buy….we hope….we look….we pray…we replace..
funny
www 3.0 teethbrusher gos to web ( so in 0.002sec i know your 3d digital
mouth-and have a way to geht in…your mastercard/something else)
digital-ashole-rings
cameras that make a picture of you when…
ces 2014 a view to stonage
Drugs are bad, mmkay?
SAR is a Hockeygame with a big fight! Almost MMA!
What’s so arousing about A-mount and E-mount?
It’s absolutely entertaining.
If it’s a mirrorless A77 replacement they’ll have a sale to me. If it’s not, I’ll just wait. Not looking for an incremental upgrade at this point.
I agree with Tom. If the A79 doesn’t brew esspresso, the alpha line is dead.
If that happened, I’d be out. Back to Canon. Canon makes a mean macchiato… especially in the corners, where it really counts.
Andrea – if Sony finds a way to improve the low light performance by 2 stops… I might be tempted to make a move. I doubt this is on the radar, as it’s not as sexy as other marketing clams. Right?
I guess the most confusing part is how the a3000 is a chunky DSLR shaped camera whereas the a5000 has a NEX form factor. They could have made some distinction there.
the new a79 might get the 5 axis stabilization like the olympus omd 1
During the last year I decided to commit to m43 system and buy the higher end lenses for my EM5 and I bought the EM1. I really like the AF speed, 5 axis IBIS and the touch screen on these cameras combined with the EVF. I recently shot an orchestra concert and during the dress rehearsal I took individual pictures of the musicians by walking down the rows while they played. Using the LCD and setting the AF by touch make it so easy and fast. I kept thinking to myself why didn’t Sony put touch screens on the Nex 6 or now on the a7 or a7r. Now I want touch screen on my future camera purchases. I see it as a professional feature. I see myself as a future a7 or a7r owner next year when the lens line up fills in and I can choose a few FE lenses. I am satisfied with my A mount setup for now and very happy with the IQ of the a99 and CZ glass in the studio and outdoor portraits. Sony continues to miss the mark for me to make an immediate purchase with AF speed and sync speed in the a7 and a7r. I think Sony is too interested in holding back features in new models so they can sell you the next year’s model. When is some of the Olympus tech going to show up in Sony cameras? I do not like their business model and the poor level of support for existing customers.
Yes, touch screen is such a blessing for focussing. I use it for manual focus only, but for AF should be even more effective. Choose the Nex 5R over the 6 for that reason. Not sure yet should jump on the a7 or wait for an FF with touch screen. At least Sony is the only FF camera maker wit a tiltable screen. It really gives more freedom to move the camera around for the best angle of view (vs EFV).
Nothing to see here, folks.
FF!
Flippable SLT!
Tilt/pivot screen!
Robust flash!
10-year support!
IBIS!
MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sony needs to be on PAR or surpass the Nikon D4 and DF’s Low light performance. They also need to surpass Canon 1DX’s FPS speed. Bump the Buffer size, make it a Hybrid viewfinder, Hybrid Mount, both available in DSLR body and NEX body, 36 or 40 megapixel and 4x the battery life of the A99. Now you got a winner.
And this camera will cost you only 20.000 $. A bargain!
If you would consider buying a Sony mid-range A77 or its successor… how long would you wait?? I
Hey guys, not sure if this is the best/most appropriate place to ask this, but I’ve had my eye on the A99 as of late (not too fond of the Canon and Nikon full-frame offerings). Was wondering, do you guys think this is a bad time to purchase one as a replacement model is on the horizon? Would love to know your thoughts 🙂
I have the same issue with looking at a A77…. really hard to tell what might happen unless we know the details for sure.. Price vs offering
If you don’t have any investment in A-mount (or very little) don’t start investing in any Sony gear. Get a CaNikon full frame.
I’d be an excellent idea if you can get the body, grip, and HVL-F60M flash for under 3K.
Always depends doesn’t it? There’s always something better just over the horizon. 8^)
If the rumors can be trusted (stifle any laughter) we will know sometime in February more information on new bodies (maybe not plural) Sony plans to offer in an a-mount. An a77 replacement is pretty sure but obviously it’s APS-C. It’s unclear if a FF will be announced then (somehow I doubt it). Speculation wrapped inside a SAR3-level rumor says, if not, maybe March. More maybe, maybe, maybe.
How much do you really want it now? Buy and don’t look back if you really want it. Shots missed today with it are shots missed today. Can’t shoot a body on a drawing board in Japan.
You missed the Christmas super-duper Sony bundle sale (A99 + grip + buggy flash). I’m sure that if they announce a replacement there’ll be another fire sale. The fact Sony dropped the discounts on it but is keeping it on the APS-C line-up makes me wonder if Sony is not quite ready to clear the warehouses of the (rumored) out of manufacture a99. A hint at a bit more delay for its replacement?
The other consideration is if you believe all the end of the a-mount SLT rumors, mirrorless full speed ahead (apparently now not true of the a77 replacement). You’re taking a chance, if Sony goes mirrorless on the a99 replacement, Sony gets the AF right and blesses it with IBIS. The a7/a7R indicate they have a way’s to go yet.
Me? I’m waiting but my a65 has a lot of life left in it and, in the end, may be all I end up with depending on what’s shaking with Sony in 2014. So far, I’m encouraged but not wholly impressed by the a7R.
What about a NEX-6 successor? possibly called a6000. I’m waiting on that.
Would a79 be having wifi and touch screen as in cannon 70D