You know it already…the compact camera market is dramatically shrinking and the present and future of photography is smartphones with high photo quality. That’s where Sony is investing their development sources. And the next “honami” phone is supposed to come soon featuring also a new JPEG engine that we may will see in future Alpha and NEX cameras too. According to a new source the new “Sony H2” phone “will use a 2/3″ sensor with xenon flash and Cyber-shot branding and manual controls like the RX100.”
P.S: Do not confuse the H2 phone with the H2 cybershot 🙂
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The H2 was the best of of the H series Cybershot range. Let’s see if this Honami does the H2 tag any justice. 😉
Just want to say, that the H2 is actually 2H, meaning Second Half of the year. Not its model number.
Any idea when it’s likely to be released? I’m not exactly expecting rx100 quality, but I wouldn’t mind having something compact with decent iq to replace my galaxy s2…
September-October-november
Unfortunately it’ll be tied to android…
that’s a good thing
+1!
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Definitely looking forward to this. I would pay for this (and not for the S4, 3 times more expensive than my HTC One S, which does the same things…)
It just makes sense for Sony to come up with such device, considering the dwindling compact camera market. Furthermore it would be a key quality differentiating factor in the upscale smartphone market, dominated by Apple and Samsung. Larger screens and faster processors are just not bringing anything new to last year’s models.
Sonys smartphones! Not within top 5 but rather “others”.
I heard they are maybe even top 3 or top 4 for android smartphone segment.
Apparently next high end galaxy will have optical zoom and next google nexus will be Nikon branded, so the race is heating up.
I beg Sony, the pixel should not excess 12MP pls, keep RAW mode or provide finest jpeg quality. Thousand thanks!!!
+1 for RAW.
Current rumors pointing towards 2.13 micron and 13MP.
41mp sensor doesn’t do any damage to the Nokia PureView. Megapixel number is nothing, you can downsample if you don’t like large picture.
Larger pixel has better signal to noise ratio, thus improving on High ISO noise. Noone says that there is a problem with Nokia. It just would be better with a larger pixel, but by gaining in High ISO noise the PureView would sacrifice in zoom, since it uses 4x digital zoom.
Better than what? Better than more pixels that together have the same size? No it hasn’t. It has been proven in many tests. More pixels is better.
It has been shown over and over again that different pixel size on same sensor size does not change the amount of noise in the full image when you compare cameras with same sensor technology.
Still this old myth about small pixels resulting in more noise is repeated over and over again by pixel peepers who zoom in to 1:1 pixel magnification on both images without realizing that this causes them to see different magnifications of the full images.
This is only correct if you assume that the light gathering area is still the same. In theory this is not necessarily the case, i.e. if you have microgaps, lower efficiency of smaller microlenses etc etc.
E.g. see Sony 24MP vs 16MP sensor – the overall image on the 16MP shows less noise.
Then again, if you compare e.g. a 16MP BSI sensor to a 12MP non-BSI sensor, it could be the other way around and you might gather more light with the 16MP sensor.
It’s not about more or less MP but about the sensor design and if and how much light you need to sacrifice to get a certain pixel count.
Strongly doubt the 2/3″ sensor spec, would need substantial amounts of glass, size and weight if offering more than a pinhole-spec’d lens. The Sony Cybershot DSC-828 (introduced in 2004, see http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf828/) gave an example for the dimensions a 2/3″ sensor implies. Ok, that’s a 7x zoom they won’t put in a phone, but you get the picture. It was for a reason manufacturers started employing ever smaller sensors after that era…
(Too bad, by the way, since cameras like the 828 or the Olympus C-8080Z, I owned one back then, were extremely well-built and capable cameras and I would very much like to see one of those again with current technology regarding sensor, AF and EVF. Or the Olympus C-70/7000Z, for that matter, which I actually still use, since there never again was a camera with a decent 5x zoom lens AND a viewfinder AND RAW output in such a small package…)
It will have a fixed lens zoom. Sure it’s possible.
It will have a fixed lens zoom. Sure it’s possible.
It will have a fixed lens zoom. Sure it’s possible.
It will have a fixed lens zoom. Sure it’s possible.
cool for sure but not likly for me less its water proof (i kill anything but rugged phones)
Current rumor points to it being water and dust resistance. not sure if it’s IP5/7 or IP5/8 though.
My iPhone contract is up, going to move to a Sony Xperia Z tomorrow.
have you looked at the new HTC One?
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I was debating between Xperia Z and HTC One. Grabbed HTC and couldn’t be happier.
Im good with the standard 35mm prime like on the iPhone, but I sure would have liked them to use the RX100 sensor. Still, a rumor of having manual controls is amazing. The Nokia 808 is just touchscreen. Having actual dials and scrolls is exactly what I want and more than I would have expected.
the best device ever will be a touchscreen phone with the RX100 camera (maybe with fixed lens)! The p&s camera is dead but the manufactures did not understand that is the perfect time to fill up the place with phones with performant cameras.
The best device is the device you have with you.
This thing is going to break after 2 years and 1 month, like my Experia. No thanks.
All cell phones break after 2 years.
They are desighned to be “upgraded with a new 2 year contract”.
A new sony patent calls fot a 35mm 4 element lens and s curved ff sensor. Perhaps this is the new cameraphone.